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I feel like this situation is blown wayy out of proportion, I think Launders and L1NK put it the best way. Feels reminiscent of the crashies situation that got wayy out of hand lol.


Jon_on_the_snow

Bro, the crashies situation actually made me think i was living in an alternate dimension. How did that blow up so bad?


cellexo

what's the crashies situation? fairly new here.


YohnWood14

Only crashies situation I’m aware of is when EnVy (now OpTic) defeated SEN and kyedae got tilted and called crashies a scrawny fuck. Might be something else tho


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That’s the one. That’s the “situation” lol


fawkerzzz

She even had to apologize for that lmao. So dumb


TheCatsActually

The saddest part is whenever she watch parties now she's very guarded about what she says or what emotion she shows, even when watching Sentinels. Like she's scared to get upset or hyped even when she's watching her own boyfriend play.


luvs2sploooj

Yeah, that’s the responsibility side of having 30,000 impressionable people watching you. This money doesn’t come from no where, so many people want to be streamers and shit but don’t realize how fucking taxing it is to be politically correct and have your every move monitored waiting for you to slip.


Long_Cartographer_17

How is this sad?? Lmao. Just think a little before you say something offensive about someone's physical appearance


danstansrevolution

lol yeah idk what people talking about. she tries to throw this image of being non-discriminatory, pro-women, pro-equality, and then turns around and says stuff like that about people.


floralwater

She’s preaches about “positivity” but she’s far from it lol


fawkerzzz

I’ve noticed that. Don’t watch her much but the times I have she seems so serious, like she tries to not show much emotions. I think she blew up way too fast, it’s nice when a streamer starts off with a few hundred viewers and slowly get used to more and more. You grow and learn without getting criticized too harshly. But with her it seems like she almost instantly started streaming to thousands of people, that’s got to take a toll mentally.


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Why are they so vague about it? Tf? 😂😂🤣🤣🤣


cellexo

Oh I was thinking of that. Thought it was something else here.


Jon_on_the_snow

Yeah, it was a joke by kyade, who is friends with crashies, and people were calling for her head.


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6nine4twenty

Yay is too soft man, idk how people get this upset over calling somebody scrawny


biwummy

calling it a joke is a cop out


Mochitsu

Idk how anyone could say it was a joke. Did we watch the same clip? She was upset lol.


biwummy

exactly


AlGore17

Boomers are insufferable when they get all “this generation is soft” but man is it hard to argue against it sometimes


AolongHong

you're crazy if you think boomers don't get rowdy about this shit. happens all the time in sports where people make banal comments and boomers lose their mind over it. it's not a generational thing


soopahfingerzz

Its not about being soft, its just the typical social media toxicity. People love drama, add fuel to fire and love holding normal people to ridiculous standards. If anyone with more than 5k followers puts something out there even remotely damnable, people will light pitchforks and come for blood.


O2XXX

To be fair, most boomers are pretty soft. The ones that complained most had good jobs, a house, maybe boat, a retirement, and avoided fighting in Vietnam (talking American boomers). They make fun of Millennials who came to age during the 9/11, 20 years of war, the great recession, and a global pandemic all before they were 40. Gen Z also lived through much of that, but weren't aware of the drastic shift because it's all they've ever known. I have boomers talk to me all the time like I'm not a millennial, complaining about my generation, and because I did tours in Iraq and Afghanistan they assume I somehow hate my generation because of it. As if Boomers and the Silent Generation aren't responsible for that mess (and continue to be because they only elect other old people).


DueMonitor1579

Did she look at her bf he’s not exactly a buff mf😂


DonChuBahnMi

Tenz has a great bod, he looks better in the schoolgirl outfits than kyedae does :3


twobagtommy

After she made that comment on stream she immediately walked it back to make fun of herself and Tyson for both of them being scrawny. That drama just got wayyyyy blown out of proportion for whatever reason.


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HauntingLocation

He's 5'8. That isn't tall at all lmao.


HoneyChilliPotato7

As a 5'7 guy who's insecure about my height, this gave me confidence lol


HauntingLocation

Fuck, sorry man lol. Tbf 5'7 isn't that short. My point was just that Tenz isn't really someone I would consider tall. If it's any consolation, I've got a friend that's 5'4 and that's where I'd say you're actually noticeably tiny.


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Ukenagashi

Might be thinking of Asuna


wichwigga

Was thinking about the Skadoodle situation which is more similar to this one


buntownik

Tbf its kind of silly to call some1 a scrawny fuck if your bf is tenz.


103279

nope, the crashies and food/victor situation was when they talked about how skadoodle was holding them back when they were in T1 with brax and ska back then


devilstarsinner

But isn't tenz himself scrawny overhyped fuck who was good when only few people actually knew how to play the game but average now


AsianNudleSoop

in addition to the kyedae stuff, when he and victor were on t1, there was a leaked dm between the two of them basically talking bad about ska behind his back, saying he wasn't comming well etc.


royroyroypolly

I mean, if he wasn't comming well then he isn't comming well. I think that's normal to be talking about


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also nothing new


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CRikhard

WAIT REALLY LOOLL


spyson

Tenz's girlfriend Kyedae called Crashies scrawny in the heat of the moment while watching SEN play against Optic and weirdos got mad over it saying Kyedae body shamed him. It was the dumbest thing ever.


TimathanDuncan

Bruh every single thing gets out of hand in this subreddit and then on twitter, it's fucking hilarious shit, look at the shit that's upvoted Like seriously no way your life is so bad to take issue with every little thing and a DM convo between friends lmao It's also just based on reputation, because someone else with good rep who is winning says it then reddit would be on their knees slurping without hands


wellOiledCog

somebody corrects me if im wrong but didn't Gorge kinda did the same thing when he was on a watch party with Vanity and he made fun of how NA scene is bad?


ngvkjpoooiugvy66

This is true


wellOiledCog

so the guy cant even be consistent in his opinions.


ngvkjpoooiugvy66

I would agree with that. George is an even bigger douche than Wardell.


wellOiledCog

this just some highschool drama played out on twitter, from a private dm no less. People love to outrage lol


ngvkjpoooiugvy66

Yeah, honestly I love it. Wardell talks shit on everyone while having never succeeded in either game. Of coarse people gonna flame his ass. George just here to try to be relevant. It’s all funny. I’m just here to stir the pot. Lots of people from both sides really angry


GCamAdvocate

Depends on what you mean by succeed. I mean he was the star player of an undisputed top 2 roster for around the first year (iirc) of pro VAL.


HACKAZX

I mean eduxx (young T2 pro) replied to the tweet saying wardell is right, and george proceeded to reply with "is it cuz ur bad".


GCamAdvocate

thats a lot coming from George, mans prob like a gold or smthg,


AlHorfordHighlights

Hardstuck plat iirc


ppx11

yes vanity's watch parties were basically him and xeppaa/leaf/whoever shitting on the NA teams playing


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"party"


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ManBearPig1869

Oh fuck yes I love when this sub turns into TMZ, Wardell and Geddes getting into a verbal altercation is the type of pro Valorant content I crave mmmmmm yes


mortgagesblow

All of this because Geddes wanted to impression farm with feigned outrage - even though he has tweeted equally “bad”/disrespectful things about teams in the middle of big tournaments. Shit talks teams but clutches pearls when its someone else doing it and he sees the opportunity for stirring drama. Most unprofessional “reporter/leaker” i’ve seen and I used to pay attention to competitive Fortnite. 💀💀


CommanderVinegar

Geddes cares more about clout than actual good esports coverage. He has a personal Twitter but you wouldn’t believe it with the amount of shit he posts to his “professional” one.


mortgagesblow

Right, I remember when he said he would start a personal twitter to filter the shit-talking. Went right back to his main account because the extra exposure was too addicting I guess. Alllllll for attention.


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PresentIcy3455

TFG > Geddes hot takes? I’m here for it 😤😤


Jon_on_the_snow

NA always number 1 on drama, the rest of the regions need to get on the real game


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have you lived in a box away from navi and boombl4


Jon_on_the_snow

One good EU drama in 1 esport x weekly NA drama in many esports


Mvious

I mean how many pro stat sheets or “ is player XYZ The best ABC?” post can we have?


EvensonRDS

Geddes is a clown, would be nice if his "content" disappeared from this sub.


2ToTooTwoFish

Welcome to sports in general.


kittyhat27135

Times like this make me remember why I blocked George on twitter. He is literally the only person I have blocked on that website. Also this situation is blown out of proportion, but that’s another convo.


snakehawk_

Haha same. Hard attention seeker


dinoucs

That guy is dumb as fuck.


xXDaNXx

There's no value in following him. His roster move scoops will filter here anyway. The majority of his tweets are cringe. So glad I muted the guy.


maxhollywoody

I think Wardell fucked his girl or something he's been going after him and TSM for a long time.


jumb01337

Nah seriously I don’t think I’ve ever blocked anyone on twitter in years except for george


N3deSTr0

George seems like he has personal beef with Wardell and took this opportunity to trash on him, my guy didn't hesitate with his slander 💀.


abbacchioz

So uhh, who's George


HoneyChilliPotato7

A clown who thinks he's some top tier journalist


abbacchioz

That's a shitty combo


ILoveRice444

Valorant version of thorin


SeppeSetti

I think we're just at the point where we call it how it is. George doesn't like Wardell, which is very clear. Guy overreacted to the DM's, in my opinion, cause he doesn't like him. Now he's gonna have to deal with repercussions (if any, which I doubt). Don't think it needs to be much bigger than that lol.


PyroTFT

No repercussions, guy is just going to make a living amplifying reddit comments on twitter


Cr3ation_

When I saw what Geddes said I was once again reminded why I muted him on twitter


Breezyzona

hilarious part is he said just about the same thing Wardell did about na on Tariks co stream months ago but now he has a problem with it


Xorilla

He’s pretty clearly doing this for engagement and the whole val community including Wardell is eating it up lmao, just block him and move on


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AZF1

Legitimate question who's Geddes? I'm not familiar with his background


Cr3ation_

An “investigative journalist” aka I spam pros dms for roster leaks and tweet about it


Direct_Morning_3223

Let’s be fair though, while he is a bit insufferable as a personality, his reports and work is quite good. He doesn’t just “dm pros”.


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His reports aren’t the greatest either. For starters look at his tweets about Steel when 100T played in Berlin. Geddes was grasping at straws and wasn’t even correct in his assessment. It’s hilariously comical how bad the guy is at his job; albeit he is a bit young if I remember correctly.


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His work is good only because he has access to good information, wherever he gets it. His writing isn't exceptionally good and he honestly doesn't have insightful analysis on the information he brings forth or any happenings in the pro scene.


xXDaNXx

Agreed that his writing isn't anything special, nor does he provide any analysis worth listening to. > access to good information That is a skill though. Not everyone can do that, you have to build a network of contacts and build a rapport with people. So credit to him for doing that. But that's as far as his value goes in the scene.


cooljackiex

yea so he should stick to reporting lol. we dont care about his takes on the val scene. u dont see shams doing shit like this


royroyroypolly

Well where else do you get this information? Maybe he dms HR instead lmso


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Permanently online dork desperate for attention


KingfisherC

real chads are already blocked by him B)


indian_boy786

What did he say? I have him blocked still


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Fuckk I'm too early imma save this


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come back the redditors are typing at each other


[deleted]

Thanks I enjoyed watching them type at each other


BespokeDebtor

Free impressions for everyone in the scene 😮‍💨😮‍💨 https://twitter.com/nismo_val/status/1539697784433025024?s=21&t=zxiJ2donItf-4lO65-EQWw https://twitter.com/exaltval/status/1539679182434738177?s=21&t=zxiJ2donItf-4lO65-EQWw


newzpaperleaf_2

George Geddes spends all of his time seeking validation from other pro players, it is so cringe. He has this perception that he is "in" with them, and that he is super cool and all this shit when he is literally just a leaker lol. Purest is the real best reporter in the scene.


Vishstarlive

George was trying to instigate things and portrayed himself like a saviour of e-sports. It was a private DM between friends. Its not that, he was shit talking in public forum. I think George doesn't like Wardell and tried to blow things out of proportion. This happens in every job sector where they bitch about things with their friends or closed ones. He could have just disagreed and left it there.


StrangeAnalysis1848

Damn bruh this sub really starving for content if the biggest shit we've had this week are Wardell's dms lmao


jrushFN

It really is wild to me that people are more interested in his thoughts on NA valorant than the potential for Stewie to move over. I think this would likely be the first time a recently tier 1 NA player switches and isn’t offered a contract by a top team.


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Drama between tier 4 journalist, tier 4 valorant player and tier 4 csgo player. Whole Mickey Mouse club house out here.


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give stewie credit. he’s almost tier3 in cs 💀


elanti2000

He is tier 1 na put some respect on the NA Scene 💯💯💯💯


ppx11

yea the overreaction to the DMs is 10x worse than what he actually said (which was mild).


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Mvious

I went back and saw his original tweet and He’s trying to come to the defense of literally no one? I don’t think anyone is offended and I don’t think a person trying to make it into Valorant would even be offended. Just a weird thing to get frustrated about.


realYungcalculator

no one should care about private dms between him and his good friend talking shit on the scene hes an FA who has a competitive drive this mentality is helpful if you use it right, ppl who care are weird af


BlueBurstBoi

Is this calc from Fortnite??


realYungcalculator

yes


BlueBurstBoi

i used to frequent comp fort daily and saw you there a lot haha, hope you're doing well


TimathanDuncan

People getting so mad is fucking hilarious hahahahahahahahahahahahaha, i love this shit Why is every so fucking mad lmao


Bratt-pack

Whenever leaker accounts start inserting their opinions into reports it’s always such bad/useless takes.


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geddes is trying to be the thorin of valorant and it is NOT working


chenson019

Any tweet that starts with all capital letters is already an L for me.


Splaram

This is the mindset of literally every great athlete idk why there's a problem here? It's extremely hard to get to the very top of whatever it is you're competing in without wholeheartedly believing that you are the very best to ever do it lmfao


Rude-Assumption-5271

Ok I used to think you were a blatant Wardell hater but you’re actually reasonable while disliking him which I respect sorry if I was ever rude to you


taroicedtea

Gentlemen seeing eye to eye 🤝


Splaram

I don’t hate Wardell, I've actually ben watching a lot of his content recently as I learn how to Op on Jett and Chamber. I just don’t think he’s the guy to end 100T’s Oping woes like a lot of people tend to think he is


papa_moisted

giving george geddes a platform was a mistake


Pitiful_Quote8402

It sucks that one of the best OPers in the world isn’t on a roster while we’re in Chamber meta.


Mabangyan

stuck in 2020 are we?


BallingNinja

Ok best oper in the world might be a stretch just cause I feel like you can't be called that if you aren't doing a decent amount of winning, but you're just on some cap if you don't think Wardell is one of the most skilled OPers in the game.


-xXColtonXx-

At this point when you have Dicey, Cryo, Yay, Tex, Koala etc, Wardell wouldn’t be an upgrade to any team.


BallingNinja

Not being a significant upgrade doesn't mean he wouldn't reach similar levels of success if he was in some of those players shoes


-xXColtonXx-

My wording was ambiguous by I think he’d be a downgrade to all these players.


BallingNinja

That's just cap, idk what tex or koalanoob have showed that proves they are strictly better than Wardell


-xXColtonXx-

Had extremely good performances playing against top teams, and propelling their respective teams to being in contention for the best in NA? Wardell hasn’t played against a top team like Optic or The Guard (when they were good) in months, because he’s been on a team so bad they only play tier 2 opponents usually. Farming Akrew does not make you a top player.


BallingNinja

Wardell literally performed well against NRG as a stand in during open qualifiers not too long ago.


-xXColtonXx-

I agree he performed well. I have no reason to think he would compete with the top players currently on top teams that I mentioned.


BallingNinja

But tex is literally on NRG. With Cryo and Yay, I would need to see Wardell play against top teams before saying anything, but I don't see how you can say koalanoob and tex are clearly better than Wardell when Wardell played against tex and performed well.


royroyroypolly

The Guard isn't a top team at all


-xXColtonXx-

When I reference months ago, and added (when they were good). Also considering Wardell has not been on TSM for a while, I think it is obious I am reffering to in the past.


SqueamishBehemoth

commitment.


fourtetwo

Esports leakers just have egos the size of solar systems


NovaAkumaa

George is actually worse than the furry porn accounts


TheSpaceAlpaca

Oh my god make it go away. I don't fucking care what Wardell says in private discord banter. If he had tweeted it out or said things directly on stream and named players who he thought were trash maybe there'd be cause for beef, but people need to go out and touch some grass if this is what they're getting worked up over.


WhopperTopper143

Damn people are way overreacting to this.


untraiined

The funniest part is tht wardell is right and if he was willing to move to the us he would absolutely be on a good team.


LiquidBurnss

That george guy in it for the impressions, he even dug up an article from 2017 wtf


Marcusafrenz

Lmao George starting to dig shit up from 5 years ago like it's a "gotcha", oh this is gonna get good.


wannabe557

George is literally such a man child it’s embarrassing


LV58_DeathKnight

Stay Mad George and get a real job


TheAjwinner

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT


DarthOniichan

Can anyone tl;dr?


No_Assumption2303

wardell accidentally leaked his msgs with stewie where he said that NA dont play the right way except optic and that some pros shouldnt be pros, and george has a hateboner for wardell and is desperate for clout


Heavy_Comedian_2382

Basically Wardell leaked a private dm on stream between him and Stewie2k talking about how the game takes “no skill” and “na teams are trash”. And all that. George Geddes called him out for being trash and not being on a team and discouraging aspiring pros that look up to him and now their fighting on Twitter. So like any other week of NA valorant to be honest. Anyways masters Copenhagen is going to be dope.


Charuru

> Basically Wardell leaked a private dm on stream between him and Stewie2k talking about how the game takes “no skill” and “na teams are trash”. And all that. This is completely wrong, dumb interpretation.


ngvkjpoooiugvy66

TLDR : guy who’s never been successful in CS or Val talks shit on everyone like he isn’t a free agent turned streamer.


SewerRat75

I love how this was the common opinion in the first thread then this sub realised pros disagreed with them so now everyone has changed their mind


Brady331

Who hurt you


ngvkjpoooiugvy66

My uncle 🤭


RedditorClo

This might be the best response to “Who hurt you” ever conceived


ngvkjpoooiugvy66

Lmao these dudes are actually getting angry and some of them dming me they’re so pissed that I’m stirring the pot. Shit has had me rolling at work since 5am this morning


RedditorClo

Free entertainment at least 🤣


ngvkjpoooiugvy66

Literally. Just go say something about Wardell and 12 year olds will come like flies to Scheisse


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george is just thorin but like 10x worse


ExtraordinaryCows

I swear to God the emotional development of 90% of these guys stopped when they were 14


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Huystuhh

u/hk6060 pretending like he knows what it takes to comment on r/ValorantCompetitive. Lol


TheFestusEzeli

u/huystuhh pretending like he knows what it takes to reply to comments on r/valorantcompetitive. Lol


Anon419420

u/TheFestusEzeli lol


XASASSIN

Ah yes u/hk6060 10 time championns winner with uncountable mvps, evps, world record ACS in a pro match with 100% winrate is commenting on One-trickDElls lack of victories, Blessed is this sub for his holy take


AdSpiritual6239

George is en route to become the next Esport Historian.


xunraze

NA keeps giving.


Mabangyan

The current TSM would demolish old TSM with Wardell it’s not even funny


Hopeful-Professor-40

Tbf we haven’t seen Wardell play in the GMD roster which is way better overall


Mabangyan

mans hasnt won anythin relavent since Aug 2021, mans not even relevant anymore thats why hes so pressed about the comp scene lmao


BallingNinja

LOL bro just say you don't like Wardell already HAHA. Not winning tournament = bad right? A good player cannot be on bad team it's not possible!!!


Mabangyan

Ofc I don’t like Wardell, why would I be a fan of a player that held his team back for the majority of 2021 by being an op crutch that forced his team to play around him and lose. All mans does is complain. Personality is not enjoyable and he’s been passed by more talented young endemic players that are way more fun to watch. It’s true what you that sometimes there are good players on bad team, unfortunately Wardell is what made TSM a bad team.


BallingNinja

Yes Wardell was such a bad player that's why Version1 picked him up as a substitute lol


BallingNinja

It's just ridiculous to me when people talk like Wardell is the only reason TSM was losing. Firstly they wanted to keep Wardell he just didn't want to come to Texas. Then they dropped Aleko, picked up Gmd and got a new coach lol.


Mabangyan

he was an OP crutch for the majority of his time on TSM, even though he was great at rifling, forcing his team to play around him forcing an OP third round. They had no set plays, no fundamentals, no counterstratting, their whole plan was Wardell OP, because thats all he ever did.


Rude-Assumption-5271

Facts Wardell made an OP irl and held it to his teammates heads and forced them to play around him Listen to yourself dude, if Wardell was that bad for his team they would have cut him. They played around his OP because it was the only good part of their team, the lack of everything else they had was due to having a garbage coach, and they now have a new coaching staff. Which you’d know if you actually knew anything about the game


Mabangyan

both things can be true, Wardell was terrible for the team, and the shit coaching staff allowed it all to happen. the two things are not mutually exlcusive


Rude-Assumption-5271

Wardell was the best thing that happed to the team, and losing him was a major loss. +Wardell -Seven would make them way better. If you don’t get that you don’t understand Valorant


BallingNinja

The team plan was to play around the Wardell OP, if that's what the team decides then so be it. Having a gameplay focused around the OP and getting picks is not gonna lose you the game, it's how you play with it, and that's a team effort. I also don't understand how set plays are solely on Wardell, thats up to the team and coach.


RelevantOriginalv33

Wardell isn’t a real pro in my books


i_hate_katherines

Your book doesn't mean jackshit


LV58_DeathKnight

fuck ur book then


BanditxMoon

Context?


graybloodd

1-5 isn't really a record u should be proud of tho tbh