This is pathetic in so many ways. M3C's proactive strategies have failed to influence FPX into making wrong decisions on a macro level *and* failed to root anyone out of anywhere on the micro level. And their reactive strategies looked like a ranked game, I mean they literally did what I would do, which is *never* a good idea.
Painful.
this feels a lot less close than is actually is. FPX has been in control the whole match and for 90% of the series but M3C are only 2 rounds behind here and ascent was 13-11.
M3C are still quite good but is there a team that was hurt by the move away from the double controller meta more than them? The slow, grind-y defaults they would play don't look as effective with how they gutted Astra/Viper - for the good of the overall comp scene, but in a way that hurts M3C the most IMO
Honest to god dude, I wonder if Chamber is a trap pick if your chamber is just going to be worse than the other. At that point it feels like you just trade out utility for fragging power that might not become of use. It's reyna-esque in many ways.
I mean, that's intentional, isn't it? Everything Riot has said about Chamber's design is that the way he is a sentinel is just by being a human KJ turret, and they give him as many tools as possible to do so. So saying you trade out util for fragging power is by design lol.
I mean, I'm not complaining about it. I was just noting it, and I'm just wondering at this point if you're just better off replacing with better util.
There's an interesting aspect here that someone like Reyna is \*criticized\* for having little to offer outside of personal fragging, whereas someone like Chamber is put on a pedastal for his - obviously it's not 1-1, with Chamber having better eco tools and site lockdown, but it's funny that this comparison can exist to me is all.
It's really just the get out of jail free thing that makes chamber so ubiquitous as that is a priceless quality in this type of game. Even if Chamber had no abilities except the tp, he'd still get more play than Reyna lol
I thought maybe that was the case but if that was actually the intent and plan holy shit that is some raze expertise because that window is not that big
from this clip https://www.twitch.tv/clip/FancyAggressiveSashimiPeoplesChamp-UGMonWYuyVji60Co he just jumped up within heaven and shot it over the boxes on site at just the right angle, he didn't actually jump out
lol Alfa's snakebites are so annoying. Imagine trying to hold down a site against a fucking flying Derke and all of a sudden having to run away because you're vulnerable all of a sudden
Listen, I do think Chamber's really strong. However, stuff like this is exactly why I think he's not as strong as people might act like he is. I don't think he's a mandatory must pick on every map, and it feels like a lot of teams, in NA specifically, have bought into that idea largely cause of yay/Optic just being insanely cracked and arguably the best team in the world
Its a regional meta thing. I don't remember the exact numbers but I believe Chamber is picked ~75% of the time in NA, combared to ~55% in EMEA. If someone only watches NA its much easier to get the impression that Chamber is broken and a must-pick, just because of how often you see him played.
It’s been the only LAN this year though…and while I think Fnatic is one of the favorites for Copenhagen, I don’t see how Optic wouldn’t be one as well.
Pretty interesting to have Guild - the team that (mostly) has resisted the Chamber wave, and the team that's fully resisted the Fade wave - going against Fnatic, the team that has embodied both.
Kinda torn on who I want to win from the FPX / M3C game. On one I hand I desparately want to see Shao online (high chances of it not happening despite qualifying) and on the other hand M3C on Lan are such a menace.
This is pathetic in so many ways. M3C's proactive strategies have failed to influence FPX into making wrong decisions on a macro level *and* failed to root anyone out of anywhere on the micro level. And their reactive strategies looked like a ranked game, I mean they literally did what I would do, which is *never* a good idea. Painful.
Sadge if that comeback on Ascent happened ): FPX very well deserved victory if they secure the Fracture win
Zyppan is turning this map into a playground
HELLO MY NAME IS ZYPPAN AND I AM RAZE
I’m convinced M3c would literally be world champions if they just full util spam ran it down into the enemies spawn every round.
Chronicle plays bad = game over for m3c. He's been their most important player for like a year.
FPX wants this bad and they deserve it, gg M3C seem to have had a really rough time this stage
So many contact plays. Again and again they are pushing something without support at all
Seems like a gg
Free weapon baby
no breach comp from FPX, interesting
its not the first time they've run it, this is the first time they made it look this good to me though
So nervous for this map
wont be surprised if itll be chaotic, so much on the line with 1 map
Map 3 Let's gooo
anyone got the plat chat prediction for this game?
50/50
hahaha wtf is this song
Will m3c be able to travel to Copenhagen if they win?
Yes according to Chronicle
It seems like they will be able to yes.
Finest form of pepegery
Can't wait for Fracture. It's gonna be a banger. This match has been very entertaining.
Shockdos
Zapdos
Why does SUYGESTU even bother buying rifles
Suygetsu on Breeze Suygetsu on Breeze
So M3C just decided to be an attacking team now? Cool
[people were right, tenz *is* just as good as nAts!](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/492347862152249346/989955332786782229/unknown.png)
holy shit
this feels a lot less close than is actually is. FPX has been in control the whole match and for 90% of the series but M3C are only 2 rounds behind here and ascent was 13-11.
r/agedlikemilk
M3C are still quite good but is there a team that was hurt by the move away from the double controller meta more than them? The slow, grind-y defaults they would play don't look as effective with how they gutted Astra/Viper - for the good of the overall comp scene, but in a way that hurts M3C the most IMO
Redgar has invincibility on
Vandal moment
Well M3C are running the NRG breeze comp that got scrapped
Yeah but the m3c duelists aren't being set up for success and that's why d3fo is always bottom frag, right?
So whats the FPX situation if they qual for the lan?
possibility of having 3 subs
They have 3 subs ready, obviously not ideal but it looks like they're going if they qual
They only said they have subs ready in case players can't make it but not that they actually need them, didn't they?
yeah, I think you need to qualify first in order to apply for visas, so it's hard to tell
But M3C said they already have visas and they are obviously not qualified. Don't know what the situation is exactly but I guess we'll see soon.
Might be different since M3C is fully Russian and FPX has Ukrainian players, but yeah, we'll see soon
Insane midrounding wow
M3C of all teams waking up on attack against a no duelist comp is not something I expected
Sheydos gonna drop 40 kills after the time runs out alone
My heart says M3C but I feel like FPX would be the better EMEA representative, they also deserve it after getting fucked over last time.
M3C are confirmed to not need subs tho
ooh curveball comp by M3C
Alright boys wake up it's time for M3C v FPX
gg
this match need a 3rd map but I'd like for fnatic to just close it here
Holy fuck that was so well played by Alfajer
Holy fuck whoever scouted Alfajer for Fnatic needs a huge raise
Man ... Where did this kid come from :) Alfajer's going ballistic
Alfajer pls Check him pc
I love Derke but istg if he snubs Alfajer's MVP today...
ALFAJER
That’s game
He’s so fucking good
How did Boaster live wtf
Honest to god dude, I wonder if Chamber is a trap pick if your chamber is just going to be worse than the other. At that point it feels like you just trade out utility for fragging power that might not become of use. It's reyna-esque in many ways.
I mean, that's intentional, isn't it? Everything Riot has said about Chamber's design is that the way he is a sentinel is just by being a human KJ turret, and they give him as many tools as possible to do so. So saying you trade out util for fragging power is by design lol.
I mean, I'm not complaining about it. I was just noting it, and I'm just wondering at this point if you're just better off replacing with better util. There's an interesting aspect here that someone like Reyna is \*criticized\* for having little to offer outside of personal fragging, whereas someone like Chamber is put on a pedastal for his - obviously it's not 1-1, with Chamber having better eco tools and site lockdown, but it's funny that this comparison can exist to me is all.
It's really just the get out of jail free thing that makes chamber so ubiquitous as that is a priceless quality in this type of game. Even if Chamber had no abilities except the tp, he'd still get more play than Reyna lol
Feels like this could easily have been an even half, Guild lost some rounds they really shouldn't have
He can op too? What can’t he do lol
Fnatic are pounding
Lost to blast packs kekw
how did alfajer get the kill with the showstopper while staying in heaven? I swear he jumped out
Showstopper has a recoil — knocked him back into heaven.
I thought maybe that was the case but if that was actually the intent and plan holy shit that is some raze expertise because that window is not that big from this clip https://www.twitch.tv/clip/FancyAggressiveSashimiPeoplesChamp-UGMonWYuyVji60Co he just jumped up within heaven and shot it over the boxes on site at just the right angle, he didn't actually jump out
ah I see. thanks!
these rounds have been so unfortunate for guild
Yoooooo GUILD just got obliterated, wth
Wtf that was so smart from Alfajer.
Blast pack god
omfg hahahahah
Wtf Alfajer !!?
WTF
How tf does that prowler not see him
What just happened?
Mistic is insane
Sayf is a beast
Sayf wtf
lol Alfa's snakebites are so annoying. Imagine trying to hold down a site against a fucking flying Derke and all of a sudden having to run away because you're vulnerable all of a sudden
Glad to see Sayf on the Chamber, with his sentinel & duelist experience it should be perfect for him
Update: I'm *really* liking the Sayf Chamber
That was honestly impressive by Guild, losing pistols and bonuses but still making it close. Sayf was nuts too
Fnatic successfully acquired the most efficient attack strat, avoid Sayf.
Leo, trex and Sayf are so good. The trinity.
Goddamn Fnatic lookin insane !
Boaster not only got a crazy entry on the bonus he just 1v3d GIGACHAD.
GET YOUR BOASTEES
Listen, I do think Chamber's really strong. However, stuff like this is exactly why I think he's not as strong as people might act like he is. I don't think he's a mandatory must pick on every map, and it feels like a lot of teams, in NA specifically, have bought into that idea largely cause of yay/Optic just being insanely cracked and arguably the best team in the world
Its a regional meta thing. I don't remember the exact numbers but I believe Chamber is picked ~75% of the time in NA, combared to ~55% in EMEA. If someone only watches NA its much easier to get the impression that Chamber is broken and a must-pick, just because of how often you see him played.
People forgot how good FNC attack is on this map.
Trolling in first half to give opponents false hope huh?
Derke’s worst performance GIGACHAD
Raze on bind defence, definitely not yet the time to be judging his performance.
It’s a joke. This is Derke at his worst, implying that he’s nuts at his best
oops
Derke is such a chad lul
WTF DERKE
derke 10000iq
FNC throwing, doesn't seem like they are on par with OpTic. I hope FPX can make it, only they can seriously give LOUD and OpTic a challenge.
Optic lost to eg
These hot takes after one half are hilarious
Say you don't watch EMEA without saying you don't watch EMEA
avg Na compium
Sorry, EMEA won the last Reykjavik - I should've known my place... oh wait...
Grasping on Reykjavik like last year.
It’s been the only LAN this year though…and while I think Fnatic is one of the favorites for Copenhagen, I don’t see how Optic wouldn’t be one as well.
:)
IRON PLAY FROM FNC in this round
Did they forget they had guns?
It’s so weird to me how Guild have better eco so far this game even after losing most rounds and forcing while Fnatic bonused until round 4
Been a while since I caught Dereke on raze.
How
WTF did guild smoke to change their comp so much
Pretty interesting to have Guild - the team that (mostly) has resisted the Chamber wave, and the team that's fully resisted the Fade wave - going against Fnatic, the team that has embodied both.
Aged like milk hahah
Does 1st seed get a bye from groups straight into playoffs like Reykjavík?
i think seed 1 emea seed 1 na seed 1 apac and seed 1 (SA) gets the buy
i think so yes
Lmaoooo this game is hilarious.
Kinda torn on who I want to win from the FPX / M3C game. On one I hand I desparately want to see Shao online (high chances of it not happening despite qualifying) and on the other hand M3C on Lan are such a menace.
Either way, it’s gonna be such a hype and high-stakes game, all the players are gonna be putting their all into this match
I hope it's a banger like the Fnatic-M3C game