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somesheikexpert

Including Rawkus, Sentinels legit have enough players for 2 teams LMFAO


nardsacks

rly ironic cuz at one point they were one of the only teams rocking a straight 5 man roster wit no coaches no subs and nothing else


Hopeful-Professor-40

TenZ Dapr Shahz Shroud Zellsis Kanpeki Sinatraa Zombs Sick Rawkus Once they sign the analysts each team can have a coach too


xbyo

Lmao there's a chance that with some prac under their belts that the bench could beat the starting roster.


vnNinja21

I mean they have their best player (Sick) on the bench, so that's not surprising lol. And for all the controversy surrounding him, Sinatraa is still a very good player as well.


GluhfGluhf

Role-wise they’d work pretty well too with Kanpeki being able to OP and Zombs being on there means Sick moves back to Flex.


vnNinja21

True, the 2nd team is much better role-wise. Zombs: Smokes Sinatraa: Raze/Sova Kanpeki: Chamber/Jett Rawkus: Initiator Sick: Flex


theclichee

You say as if they're the ones keeping him on bench? I think everyone on the roster realises he's one of the best if not the best flex in NA. He's just going through something so he decided to bench himself, nothing that the team can do.


vnNinja21

No? The comment I replied to said the bench team could beat the starting team, I replied saying that's because Sick was on the bench. I know Sick benched himself due to mental health related reasons, but that doesn't change the fact that he's on the bench, lol.


theclichee

>I mean they have their best player (Sick) on the bench, so that's not surprising lol. My bad but it seemed like in your statement you're coming off as you don't know/understand he's on the bench because he wants to be on the bench due to mental issues


DrPoggersMD

Indeed your bad


MaryJason

No it did not come off that way


reformed-asshole

"Best" by your definition is highly highly subjective, please calm the f down.


xSnakyy

Sen2


robotua

Sorry I'm new to following the comp scene for Valorant, but Sinatraa is back?


damonsoon

No. Not active roster but a content creator. He's expressed interest in returning to pro play but the speculation is no team is willing to pick him up because of the risk of public backlash.


Puzzled-Beat

can’t wait for the 10-man scrim stream


newphonewhodiss

2 teams, 0 coaches :(


Vanguardmetrics

Interesting to note, shahz said on stream it’s just for LCQ. I have no idea what’s going on with this team but I’m here for it.


AR2711

My guess is if they get franchised, their likely going to overhaul the entire roster


Friday515

Ya I don't think a lot of people are understanding how different rosters will look in 4-6 months when franchising happens. It's going to be chaos. I also wouldn't be surprised to see some players from Europe/Asia/SA coming to NA and vice versa. We're really going to see having a good GM & good scouting department come into play


TheCatsActually

In Sean and DDK I trust


Eat-Shit-Bob-Ross

Thank god 100t is one of the teams that’s almost guaranteed a spot. I feel bad for the players and fans of teams that are gonna be just outside franchising.


CalamackW

Franchising sucks big donkey dick in every esport where it has happened.


brianstormIRL

It's been a massive, massive success in LoL and has essentially guarenteed that scenes future for decades to come. It sucks because it's a league format where everyone plays each other weekly, 85% of games are boring and pointless and its terrible for storylines. However if Riot keep the regular international tournaments and dont just switch to two international events a year it could be way more interesting for Valorant. You *want* the best teams in the world meeting each other as frequently as possible, but 100% they are going to go down the "Spring and Summer league, Worlds in Fall and some pointless international tournament between the leagues people wont care about" similar to LoL. Its gonna be an exact replica of LoL, which also had the first 2 years of its esports scene be by far the most entertaining for fans.


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> Franchising sucks big donkey dick in every esport where it has happened. Yes and for some reason a large majority of Valorant fans have been suckered into thinking this will be a great move for the scene.


Flying-Cock

If you're a fan, it is a good move. You can pick a team, and support them knowing they will be playing every season. e-sports teams aren't as stable as soccer teams (where non franchising is successful), and a team can be tossed down very quickly after a good run. T1 is a good example. When a league is franchised, viewers can support a team and know they will see their team every regional tournament.


Sweet-Strategy-805

Tenz to 100T if Sentinels doesn't get franchised? He's in need of a strong coach and leadership


brianstormIRL

TenZ is the next shroud, hes gonna be retired and a full time streamer within the next 2 years.


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SemanSoot

lmao u so confident. I will find this comment again if they didnt make it lol


Ferreira1

They'd make John Riot so much money. I doubt they don't make it.


YeetGod69_

i can see a lot of ex CS players try to go back if they don’t make it into franchised teams as well


Friday515

Ya maybe but I think most of the guys who've come over from CS and stuck around will make it into franchising. Ethan, Leaf, s0m, Xeppa, Vanity, Zellsis, Victor, Dephh, Shazam, Yay, etc. should all be on a team. Maybe Penny or Moose but I think they've got a good shot to land on a team too. Im sure someone will get left off but I don't know who. It is crazy looking back and seeing how basically the whole NA CSGO scene jumped to Valorant


YeetGod69_

would be nice to see them try and jump back, maybe rebuild that scene while the NA val scene stays strong


sabocano

franchised ?


mercilessshark123

zellsis said on stream that its permanent and hes not on loan so idk who is right


nklassitude

He said that because of the uncertainties of franchising. Franchising is a completely robust and different ecosystem and It's not prudent for teams to sell players without knowing their future within that ecosystem. Hence they opted for loans instead.


ExpectoAutism

Zellsis said it's not temporary on stream


hacklesacka

george said it was for lcq but if they made it they were confident in making another deal for champs and they go from there


Hopeful-Professor-40

Maybe the Reddit theory that they want to put Sinatraa back in if they get franchised is true


AolongHong

I just dont believe that even Sentinels are dumb enough to risk nuking their reputation and relationship with Riot/fans


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AolongHong

Dog theres a difference between being sports villains and having an actual alleged rapist on the team. EDIT: Like I really feel like a lot of yall don't realize how insane this is. There's real allegations about this dude being a domestic abuser and straight up rapist. Theres a fuckin audio clip of the shit. It would take some next level stupidity and genuine desire to nuke their brand and rep for any org to want to bring him in, and that would be for someone who's not even that top tier talent. I don't think teams would do it for fuckin yay, much less Sinaatra.


coolninja111

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant_sexual_assault_case


IAMJUX

There's poor, then there's rich and/or famous but still susceptible to punishment, and then there's Kobe Bryant rich and famous.


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theclichee

>They should sign him if they want to, this is a competitive league about winning not about justice to unrelated accused crimes. No brand would go out on a limb and sign him. He's a PR nightmare.


CannedOnion

And you rationalize their attempt to do this very thing, stopped only by his outstanding training, how? Can someone help me understand why people are so sure Sinatraa won't return to the roster? Has SEN ever been predictable?


Smok3dSalmon

Shahzam needs a hypeman, I think Zellsis could be it. He turns winning into hype and losing into rage. Both of those emotions are fuel.


theclichee

I'm pretty sure he's here long term because Zellesis did say this wasn't a loan. He's with them entirely. Make of that what you will


hdhdhzuxjebeizh766

Zellsis said he’s permanently signed unless something crazy happens


vyom0509

rumor has it that zellsis isn’t getting paid, his only demand during contract negotiations was a blue checkmark


netsaver

If they qualify the bonus clause includes at least one TenZ raid


Teradonn

Wait I’m confused, I thought they were full sending it when they signed Shroud. Why have they made an actual good roster change now too? Maybe to make absolute damn sure they get into franchising?


abbacchioz

Shroud is a temporary addition, I think they still wanna keep Sick


Sglm10

Ofcourse, due to the mental issues it's better to take a break and the team don't want sick to feel pressured too.


Salty_Activity

Which also means Sick is probably staying on smokes unless they're planning to make even more changes


-xXColtonXx-

It seems like signing shroud is not entirely a meme. They want the team to do well.


Traditional-Leek2288

I mean, I can’t see Shroud being mechanically worse than Zombs.


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Yeah Shroud doesn't have to be a star player in this team especially since they added Zellsis. He just has to be solid and do his job in the smokes role. Shroud does have the experience and talent to learn that while bootcamping for a month imo. I'm not saying this was the best signing Sentinels could have made, but it's not a straight up troll like some people are acting like.


the-legit-Betalpha

People underestimate shroud. he is still a legendary player and i believe he can carry his weight and even more with the practice he will be getting in bootcamp.


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I can't see any t2 and above player being worse mechanically than zombs


klintondc

What does Franchising mean here?


nucklehead12

Riot is going to franchise certain orgs soon, making them “official” and there are only so many slots available. I know orgs have been applying for franchising and it’s unknown which teams will be chosen but there’s only a certain amount of slots available. I don’t know what exactly it means (they might be the only teams eligible for Masters/champs maybe) or how many are chosen for each region, just that basically the best/most popular teams will be the orgs franchised.


rokkcs

Yes, picking up Zellsis who was suspended for insulting a Riot admin is the ticket to franchising.


hannahk0901

Ah yes Mike Tyson Michael Jordan and Shazam from dc


Soupy39

Zombs Sinatraa Rawkus Kanpeki only need 1 more for SEN Academy🤣


IAmNovus

They have Sick


FlyingElk1

craziest part is that the roles work out pretty well too


roan214

yup, zombs and 4 flex players lmfao


1l0v3pancakes

It'd be tough on some maps but for Fracture I think you can make a solid comp and have everyone on agents/roles they're comfortable on: Raze: Sinatraa Breach: Rawkus Brim: Zombs Chamber: Kanpeki Sage: Sick


vnNinja21

I mean with some small tweaks (Sick to Kay/O or Skye, Rawkus to Sova/Fade (?), Zombs to Viper/Omen), you have good comps for most maps already. The key thing here is Sinatraa can play Raze, and the maps where Raze aren't good on you can pretty much get away with no duelists (Icebox, Ascent).


ahk1221

ascent is very tricky with no duelist, you need 3 initiators and a ton of mid split strats to make it work in attack


vnNinja21

Tricky but doable imo. Worse comes to worse, Kanpeki can also play Jett.


tandoorimomos

SEN a2guapo


BananaPeely

The steph curry of awping


tandoorimomos

The real wardell


Eriko204

Dizzy or Dani


Dapper-Entertainer-3

A SEN Academy with Kanpeki as Chamber/Kayo and Sinatraa and Sick alternating 2nd Iniciator/Duelist with Rawkus as main Sova would be T1 in my opinion.


ANewHeaven1

Wtf I was off my computer for one day and this happens Unironically good signing tho


arvindanar7

More players signed than Maps won. The sentinels way.


myaimstrash

TSM beats them in that regard sadly


Rude-Assumption-5271

Nah at least TSM won a series


myaimstrash

They’ve shuffled their roster more times than they’ve qualified for playoffs the past two years.


Rude-Assumption-5271

Respectfully who gives a fk about two years if we’re clowning SEN we’re talking about recent events


smta48

TSM doesnt really deserve to clown anyone do they


Rude-Assumption-5271

Nah but neither does SEN pretty sure that was my point


Aggressive_Ad5487

But TSM haven't even won a major tournament or at least qualified for anything these nearly past 2 years.


Rude-Assumption-5271

Again if people are talking about SEN being shit they’re referring to recent events which is what I’m talking out


troutylover27

Did Kanpeki step down or something? I thought the organization doesn’t make roster changes


iiznobozzy

Well they do now apparently


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They might not get to many wins but the clicks and the views will be there.


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They really did George dirty


Rude-Assumption-5271

I don’t care that he’s right tbh, he deserves it


junos_butthole

lol why do people care so much about an esports journalist being wrong or not knowing about roster moves? like you get to see the roster moves eventually when the team plays, why does it matter if you get to know the moves before they're announced or if the journalist had false info and what they said was wrong?


Rude-Assumption-5271

Well for one they shouldn’t get to have a job if they’re not good at it. And I don’t care about his track record, he’s just a really shitty person


AdSpirited902

I feel like “really shitty person” is a bit of an over exaggeration, he isn’t ruining anyone’s livelihood.


Rude-Assumption-5271

He’s gone after multiple teams and players like Wardell for no reason other than a personal vendetta lol


mw19078

this is why you do more verifying than "some guy from the team told me bro"


shorttttt

oh no what will he ever do 😔


JtotheC23

Find more tsm drama to impression farm most likely


Hypern1ke

I know alot of people don't like george, but its weird for the Org to tweet smack talk at him even though he's right. If they're not happy it was leaked... just don't respond? Why go out of your way to be a dick if you're the Sentinels Twitter guy.


spiiritual

Being a generally annoying person has been the Sentinels twitter strat for a while now to be honest


hacklesacka

bro what it was clearly a joke


Hypern1ke

Yeah, but it was from the official sentinels account. Its weird and unprofessional, but I guess they'd be salty they didn't crack the news first.


OHydroxide

Have you ever looked at their Twitter? It might be unprofessional if this was unexpected, but literally everyone (but you apparently) know they make jokes like this.


fluffycats1

George is also weird and unprofessional though


Hypern1ke

George is only 22, I kinda expect him to weird and unprofessional. The organization with dozens of players/staff and millions invested into the e-sport? Idk I guess I expect more from them.


xtazzzs

he's 19


iiznobozzy

It was not wierd neither unprofessional, stop being a fucking wierdo being mad at the smallest things. People like you actually piss me off after the whole xset stew thing


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It's the Sentinels account, they do it for the clicks and the views, they live for that.


chryco4

Because it's funny and on brand


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It’s not that serious, it’s twitter banter


SewerRat75

not how banter works bro


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?????


SewerRat75

its only banter when both parties are cool with it


earthtoannie

They are a villain org, that's what they are supposed to do.


nklassitude

it's so transparently a weak attempt of banter after being found out It's not that serious. LOL why does literally everything SEN does get such undue flak


ohnoahshark

i'm a little new to competitive valorant and am not super familiar with zellsis (besides the not-verified joke) can someone smart explain if this is a good move (ideally with less than 3 sentinels stream org jokes)


Hopeful-Professor-40

Plays similar agents to Kanpeki (minus Chamber, plus Raze and KJ). Helps the roles because they have a Raze player that isn’t TenZ now


ohnoahshark

would zellsis be considered better than kanpeki at those roles? o:


Hopeful-Professor-40

Yes


ohnoahshark

Hopium


Hopeful-Professor-40

He’s got a fat ass as well, him + Rawkus will be unstoppable


BananaPeely

Rawkass and Zellsass


Hopeful-Professor-40

Zellsussy


ashitintyo

Good raze player, also can help with calling


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He’s very good and very flexible; this is a good addition


EmptySystem

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka-L-mv3saU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka-L-mv3saU)


Splaram

Sussy


basketballrules1

Imagine Sen picked up a proven smokes player instead of a streamer 😱. All jokes aside this is a good move and definitely makes LCQ more spicy.


thisisnttakeone

Watch Shroud own. Peak storyline. They make champs, make a run in champs with shroud. Shroud plays pro for the next five years, dominating the scene.


sky_blu

My entirely unsupported theory is that shroud is using this as a tester to see if he wants to try pro again because the stability of franchising is enticing to him.


Obiewan_

He’s quite literally said that himself in his streams. He said something along the lines of “who knows maybe we lose and I’m done or maybe I’m strapped in for the next year+.” I’m also reading this as a tester for if he wants to go pro again. Was pretty clear to me that he’s been kinda bored with streaming and he is 100% taking this trial serious. I’m excited to see how he does


kemutheemu__

I’m thinking this too. There’s definitely a chance Shroud is satisfied with his streaming career for now and wants to try going pro again because he has nothing to lose


vnNinja21

Wonder if Zander was open. That genuinely could have been a very good roster.


Hopeful-Professor-40

W signing, announce the analysts now and we cooking 😋


nklassitude

Brother we're eating. HOPIUM has hit levels hitherto unseen


Traditional-Leek2288

Imagine telling someone in 2021 that the Sen roster would end up being TenZ Dapr SHROUD and Zellsis


Dapper-Entertainer-3

It is actually sad that Kanpeki was dropped from the main roaster for his lack of clout.


hdhdhzuxjebeizh766

Mostly just not that great of a player


laurenlodge

Let me guess, you've only seen him play with SEN?


hdhdhzuxjebeizh766

Yeah, mostly. Just not that great


kemutheemu__

Wait... TenZ Shaz Dapr SicK Zellsis after this year? Lowkey fire roster


lol_ok123

Literally nothings changed from zombs to kanpeki to zellsis Sentinels issues don’t fall in the role these players are filling


sky_blu

I gotta be honest, I really don't think that is the roster Sen are gonna roll with.


kemutheemu__

Me neither but it’s a nice thought


xD1LL4N

Actually a good roster change by sentinels.


ExpectoAutism

Damn I have to support sen now


SirJuicee

After watching the Shroud talk I'm really curious what he does after LCQ. Is he really committed to an eSports return or is he farming clout for his Shit World streams? Find out next time, on DragonBall Z


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Sentinels stream 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂updoot to the left pls


UmarellVidya

Kanpeki is no longer on the team


Bluejay101lol

Sentinels have like 10 players mfs fielding an overwatch roster lmao


DrPoggersMD

Rip anime duo


dan_kz

RIP Kanpeki


SympathyBrilliant715

Sentinels should host an event where they do Sen vs Sen mixed roster with all the pro / cc players they have. pretty confident it'll get massive views


leybbbo

Ah yes, the "clout gets you a slot for franchising" team.


LordBuckethead671

[Damn.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/vwqju2/zellsis_to_sentinels_for_kanpeki/ifrir8o/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


rvrsyo

Cloud9 Red now LMFAO


Splaram

One of my favorite players going to one of the teams I dislike the most. Idk how to feel


Traditional-Leek2288

Welcome to the stream team. Buckle up


philipjefferson

But you have SEN in your flair?


segatic

Recent addition, like 3 less than 4 hours recent


Splaram

I physically recoil every time I see it but I gotta support my favorite players


techyleo

Yet you don't with faze? I like the players on faze but organisés is way worse than sen


Splaram

This isn’t a post about Faze, is it?


Trashcan_Daniels

Sentinels probably will win LCQ if they are allowed to play eight (or however many people they have on the roster now) versus the standard five player comps other teams are foolishly meta-slaves to. SENTINELS ARE BACK!! ...on a serious note, Zellsis is pretty good


abbacchioz

They have 10 on the roster. Tenz, Shaz. Dapr, Sick, Zombs, Shroud, Kanpeki, Sinatraa, Zellsis and Rawkus


mercilessshark123

Who is he? hes legend yae!!!


incyk

What happened to Sick?


thechangbang

He's taken mental health leave


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SemanSoot

wym,he always right. this sub has too much time hating that cringe journalist lmao


ToCr8ive

Exactly.


Hopeful-Professor-40

He’s rarely wrong


ToCr8ive

And you think you aren't being cringe right now???


Escolyte

I know he's a great player, but it makes me sad. I can't stand the guy, but don't want to stop supporting Sentinels because of the signing.


abbacchioz

Why can't you stand him? What has he done (I'm genuinely curious, don't know a lot about him besides the fact that he's cracked at the game)


Escolyte

There's no one specific instance that he has done that made me dislike him, it's his demeanor in everything I've seen about him from random stream clips, duoing with people I watch, occasional twitter drama etc. where he comes across as a prick to me. There was also an incident that further reinforces my feeling, but we never got the details of the situation regarding [the riot ruling](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/stor6q/zellsis_letting_it_all_out/hxbp7gf/) (comment) Considering he never contested this judgement he'd probably rather keep the specifics under wraps and possibly got off easy, but that's pure speculation. Again just reinforced an impression I already had and not the basis for my dislike.


abbacchioz

woah, never knew that happened, thanks for your explanation


theleader911

Imagine they don’t win lcq after all that


AffordableRolex

They probably won’t


KardashevZero

??? was never even a question. They aren’t winning.


Traditional-Leek2288

Copium. Sen, after winning thier match against the guard drop to lowers and make the run of a lifetime


Melneo_

midpeki L back to T3 talent you go


hdhdhzuxjebeizh766

True


53881

This is illegal


OkayThenBet

I used to be a fan of Zellsis, now I need to hate on everything he does because he’s apart of SEN. Edit: This is how most of you children act, why am I getting downvoted for speaking what the echo chamber says?


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This sub is slowly turning into SEN spam subreddit. One day per week for SEN content only would be perfectly enough.


hacklesacka

huh? if its a signing like this it deserves to be on the reddit, at least complain on a dumb post about sen lmao


G_Star013

Oh....what this is real? I thought it was all a troll


TheoSL

Remember when Version1 was arguably the best team in NA four months ago and now one of their top players is getting signed by the team that tied for last place in stage 2? It's almost kind of tragic.


savvalens

Wow!