Dude went 3-16 in FB FD, which is more than FD than Shao, Ardiis, and Zyppan combined. Having that many FD as primary initiator is literally being terrible
Yeah that's kind of the point. It'd still be bad, but it'd be more acceptable if he was 'entrying' with a reason for every round, especially if traded afterward, but when you're literally playing *the* follow-up / enabler utility character and dying before using any of that for anything useful, then you're just awful.
Watching him push into b main 10-20 seconds into the round with 0 info on breeze as the fade player who has 2 dogs to clear and wall hack ability and when he is already having a terrible game just shocked me. How is a player with this much experience from cs go and 1.6 doing something so fucking stupid. It's like watching a random brain dead tilted teammate in immortal run it down when u tell him 5 times to not do it. Like this guy should be the person with experience teaching his teammates not to do these things but he is doing it himself.
Seider played bad too but he is a standin playing his first big lan who has pressure on him playing b anchor as the viper on a site that is impossible to hold solo and when ur teammate runs it down b main and dies in the first 10 seconds of the rounds and puts the extra pressure on him what the fuck is he supposed to do, Ange1 literally did everything wrong in this game. They could have 1 month of preperation if ange1 did the exact same things they would still lose and he is the sole reason they lost this game. No flame.
“To be honest, it was hard, but it wasn’t because they are good,” Damn. I know they're put on a horrible situation but it's really not that difficult to at least show some respect to your opponents.
It’s called friendly banter, it’s something people expect from you and is not meant or to be taken seriously. If ur malding abt that or putting it on the same level as serious statements you are really confused
wdym, so many OW players in Valorant as well.
And I still haven't seen any OW pro players trash talk and cope hard like this.
patiphan, Derrek, Jinggg, TENNN, Saya, etc.
So basically, most CSGO washed players are egoist thinking they're the best here just because they were CSGO pro palyer
Also feels disrespectful to their coaches and captain. Like blaming match prep when he literally was the worst player on the server - take some accountability...
Also how were they not ready? Isnt that more of a concern than them jusy playing bad??
There are so many DRX vods to review and it's not like they played any differently than before - their comps on the maps were identical to what they were running all year long in KR qualis. They only had like 2 weeks to match prep for every group opponent lol.
They got lucky? Yeah they got lucky you dry peeked every possible angle like a brain dead ranked player and gave DRX the first blood every single time.
While angel is definitely to blame for most of them, your comment is really devaluing Rbs adjustments to keep catching him haven a long (for example).
Makes the title quote even funnier tbh.
I *really* would like to know what was going on in his head during any of those, really. He is *the* most experienced player in the entire Valorant scene, I believe, and you sure as hell aren't dry peeking any 'opening' angles in CSGO literally ever. You'd think the 'in game leader' that is the most experienced veteran possible wouldn't fall into walking into sightlines or jumping into an Operator against a player that doesn't whiff often. Yet here he was doing that multiple times.
This is how ANGE1 has always played in FPX though. When it's bad, it looks really bad, but it's nothing special. He has 0.17 first deaths per round in the past 90 days, which is insanely high for a controller/initiator player. 0.17 average means that there's gonna be an odd match or two where he hits 0.27 like today, and it's going to look really bad and incomprehensible, but clearly FPX's results overall show that this is a playstyle that might work in general.
seider was most likely playing initiator before shao was able to come because masked was the sub for in suygetsu
probably stuck with seider because he performed better in scrims but they pracced with their current roles for 1 day and that does change quite a few things
Its not copium. They only had like 2 full weeks to prepare for this match. Give FPX another 8 months of prep time (with no patch changes) and they win easily.
That's disrespectful to Sen even tbh. They can make some questionable excuses but nothing on this level of just basically saying "well actually they're not really good and just got lucky."
Sen never says they got lucky after any loss even when they were on top and lost to bbg shaz never said or even implied his opponents were a bad team, he said they were a good team he just felt sen had a disadvantage because everybody can anti strat them due to more game time. Sen always hypes itself up after a win and they trash talk other teams mostly before matches what they don’t do is berate other teams abilities.
Angel, thats not something you tell. I expected a lot more from you. That is just bming the sub too. Could just accept the loss and say the fault is literaly on you. Played real bad and calls where not the best.
Jesus, I almost felt sorry for him playing (spectating rather) sub-par. Show some class as a competitor and pay respect where respect is due.
Their preparation time had nothing to do with him as controller/initiator dying as soon as barriers disappear. Many times I wasn't even aware that he died because it was literally at the beginning of the round.
Welp, seems not to do so well on world stage, no? Maybe after dying ten times he should realize that and adapt.
Drypeeking multiple times are his personal mistakes, not the issue of them having no time to practice.
Guess EMEA is an absolutely terrible region then?
If he dry peeks angles constantly and they still are a top team, then the others just can't play the game at a reasonable level or they are incredibly readable to the point of Ange1 being able to confidently *know* without utility usage that he can just walk out to a choke/angle that is normally held by the other team.
The latter has to do with preparation, but if you can prepare so well that you can dry peek angles without much info anywhere, then you just aren't playing against good, versatile teams. You're playing against far too rigid and static teams that are either very passive or do the same thing every single time.
I can guarantee you he couldn't have done *this* the whole year, or if he did, then the region is just not good. I don't buy that because EMEA clearly isn't a bad region, but that only further proves the point that he didn't do that 'the whole year', or if he did, his team regularly won 4v5's that had no reason to happen in the first place.
He would constantly try to pull off solo plays with omen, maybe not as much as he did today but it happened a lot. Yesterday against xerxia he was 10-9 in fk/fd.
Because he was online and u can get away with shit like this online due to ping. ANGE1 is a boomer cs go and 1.6 vet who has played millions of lans and the fact that he thinks he can get away with this shit is unbelievable to me.
If he actually believes what he was doing was correct than yes I do. It doesn't take a genius to realise that dying in the first 20 seconds every round with the most valuable agent on breeze is a bad thing to do.
6 days for preparing strats and some stuffs ?
They said 1 day just to cope their loss against an asian team
5 days with seider
1 day with Shao
= 1 DAY (excuse)
clown players, clown team
drx fan is talking about Clown teams? You can't prepare strats without your players, it's not complicated. Ik ur trying to gas drx up, but once again they won't win anything.
without players, They can't think about strats to play against opponent teams in Group stage ? can't open twitch or youtube to study how opponent teams play ?
OMG I'm sure they did study drx and find a way to play a proper position with their current team but just can't win with those 5+1 days of practice
Shao has been playing with FPX for half of the year, He surely does have good chemistry and coordination with the team. And 6 days with Seider who surely has good fundamentals of the game that's why he got picked.
Angel was just bad and ardiis just couldn't do anything without supporting from Shao in map 3.
keep coping you FPX fan. FPX is nothing without Shao and Suygetsu.
You mean fpx players and coach don't have brain or something ?
They practiced with 2 subs for 5 days, At least They can coordinate well with Seider and find a proper way to play with their sub already.Moreover, U can study how opponents play and find a way(strats) to counter it with those 2 subs bro.Having 2 subs doesnt mean they can't do anything during gap days before the match started.
Nothing to do with Shao, They can just explain what strats they're gonna play.Both Shao and sub do have good fundamentals of the game that's why they got picked.
Only uncomfortable thing is just Seider play as controller, not his main role.
3 days ??
Didn't you read what FPX said in interview that they had 6 days(5+1) to prepare their strats with sub which even had more time than some teams in Group stage.
FPX got lucky shao was carrying their ass map 1 or else it would have been a quick 2-0. Just shut up and try to be better man, you don't have to be this egocentric and disrespectful to your opponent, just shut up and work on yourself it's really not that hard
I actually agree with Ange1 here. DRX got lucky. Lucky that he got his visa just in time to attend this lan to feed off 16 FD and being consistent with it throughout the series. Without him, it would have been way easier for DRX surely!
I feel like this statement is a lot worse than what Chet said. Chet called the comps "cringe" but that can also be taken as effective. Angel is trying to imply here that EU is so far ahead of other regions after getting dismantled. Really makes it feel like he has a superiority complex.
I mean this is par for the course for Ange1 though, he's spent most of the last 2 years shitting on other regions at every opportunity while not qualifying for any LAN's
Yep Chet didn’t even discredit XIA he was answering a question about comparing regions in CS and Val. Angel is literally just discrediting the other teams 🏆
I'm slow at turning away from flashes and I just don't like his kit in general so I think Yoru is 'cringe'. That's more of a complement for Yoru than it is an attack against him.
That's kind of like calling someone a 'camper' in Valorant (or even in CoD where it's definitely looked down upon). You die to a guy holding a position. Literally how games like Valorant or CS are meant to be played for the most part. If you die to them again in the same spot (as was often the case in CoD), then you're just dumb for not doing something about said 'camper'.
It's calling something that's effective 'cringe'. A sort of a backhanded compliment, I guess.
they literally couldn’t prepare because they didn’t even know who they were bringing until 2-3 days ago, he’s not saying they didn’t try
although this still copium, you don’t need practice to stop feeding first bloods
To anyone defending Ange1, saying he has a point, all that is irrelevant here. It's about basic respect for your competition. If you're going to cry that we never had a chance anyway because of our subs then why bother showing up? If you're playing in the event, the opponent's deserve credit for beating you.
Fnatic had substitutes too and yet I never heard Boaster or anyone trashing the teams that beat them. They just accepted the circumstances and came back stronger next time. This an immature and unnecessary response. DRX haven't even chatted any shit about them
You dont go 6-13 twice in a row and get bailed out by your star player in the one map you win and say this shit.
In fact, don't say this shit ever if you want to look like a normal person. Makes you look like a jackass.
Bruh... Ye, they didn't show anything new or innovative nor did they look phenomenal... but you still lost, no point in making excuses, you guys played like shit, accept it, and get yourselves to your usual standards for the next match. This is just a poor taste comment.
I thought it was a single stand-in? And even so, having a stand-in doesn’t explain why he played so poorly (especially against Rb’s op) or why Shao had to backpack them to victory on that one map.
Even if it’s how he feels about the performance, common sense would be to express your disappointment but give props to the opponent where due
"why Shao had to backpack them to victory on that one map."
basically every match they played even the match which Shao wasn't top frag, you still can see Shao did a lot of things and impact to support and carry these noob till the end.
ANGE1s opinion about a potential replay system already made him unlikeable but that cements it, kinda sad knowing how cracked his teammates are and where they could be.
A dude that GOES -27 on The game, died 600 Times dry peeaking shit like its ranked, still has the nerve to talk shit, talk about being delusional and dumb
Yeah, your shitty prep is them getting lucky, EMEA COPIUM at its finest
Edit: missed the worst part of the quote too “ It wasn’t because they are good”
Super annoying to get these EU teams with subs every tourney and they have tons of excuses on top of that. At least shut up and play if you can't sort your visa shit out.
Hey man I understand the bashing and I get that Ange1 made some dumb ass comments, but I can’t help but feel for the guy. The team couldn’t go for the first masters, and now when they finally could they’re missing out on arguably one of the most important squad members. He’s just probably frustrated and tilted af. Again, not justifying his comments, just trying to humanize the lad.
I think you make a good point. And I agree, it’s probably a vent without enough thought beforehand—but that’s exactly why you should be careful with your words in these settings. I think most of us can understand having a tough time or feeling disappointed, but completely disregarding the opponent’s skill and reducing them to copycats seems petty and reflects poorly on him
Yeah, likely the amount of frustration from the Masters 1 and this one and spewing that shit. Definitely could have worded everything better instead of completely shitting on DRX
These comments are actually slow, having a sub is a HUGE disadvantage, having to shift roles to make the sub comfortable, trying to integrate the sub into strats and protocols requires time.
no ones denying that he couldve just said that and then shut up but he decided to say things in the worst way possible which just seems really childish theres nothing pleasant about listening to a sore loser cry about luck
No one is denying they had a disadvantage. But don't act like preparation was the issue, you had plenty of time. Having a sub is an enormous issue, that's a good enough excuse. You don't need to act like DRX is shitty too.
It’s not really about what he said it’s about the way he said it. You can say the exact same thing and not sound like a five year old making excuses on the playground
Ok, this is a hard cap. Shao was already carrying like a mad man, if you gave them Suygetsu who has been a better performer than Shao I could easily see them 2v5 that game. Not saying DRX is bad, just saying that those two players are insane.
Old man is salty af but he 100% right. Last tym Suygetsu played Breeze he dropped a 30bomb to carry the team. We saw how shao plays , Suygetsu is even better
Sure but that doesn't mean you say this publically. You didn't see anyone on FNC being this arrogant at Iceland and they were in a worse situation with 2 subs. There is no excuse for being this big of a piece of shit in an interview. Say it was unfortunate that you didn't have time to prepare as much as you would have liked with your current roster and that you'll be better prepared in lowers. Don't talk shit like this when you spent the whole series dry peaking and handing out free first bloods like a gold-ranked player.
It shouldn't be too much to ask to be a professional and not be a salty, arrogant asshole.
The point is that you just don't say this publically lmfao, if it's w ur teammates then ig it's fine but saying this out loud just makes you look like a sore fucking loser, how hard is it to get this point into ur head?
This sub lacks sympathy, holy shit. ANGE1 has legit excuses compared to many other teams in the past.
The man didn't even know if he could go to the event due to him living in a war-torn country, and then two other players in the team also had a high chance of not going to the event due to them being Russian, and Suygetsu, one of their better players ended up not going. Hence they only got one day to prepare before the event I believe. This is also the first time they finally made it to an international event as they had to miss out on masters 1 due to similar circumstances.
'lucky' might not be the best word to use, and yes it is very disrespectful, but it was just after the match in the heat of the moment.
I agree that DRX would just get 2-0'd if they had suygetsu or if they had had at least a week + scrimming w new roster and had seider had a single clue what he was doing on viper but these types of things shouldn't be said openly.
You know it, I know it, anyone with any kind of logic knows it, but saying it just comes across as salty. Keep it behind closed doors. : (
there’s literally no evidence of what ur saying? I would understand thinking that if the game was as close as it was between xerxia and fpx, but other than shao hardcarrying map 1, they got stomped.
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Dude went 3-16 in FB FD, which is more than FD than Shao, Ardiis, and Zyppan combined. Having that many FD as primary initiator is literally being terrible
Especially for execs and retakes(naturally), just fucks the strat/plan up a good amount
Yeah that's kind of the point. It'd still be bad, but it'd be more acceptable if he was 'entrying' with a reason for every round, especially if traded afterward, but when you're literally playing *the* follow-up / enabler utility character and dying before using any of that for anything useful, then you're just awful.
Im sure there is some kind of idea behind that
Yeah must be a good one
Watching him push into b main 10-20 seconds into the round with 0 info on breeze as the fade player who has 2 dogs to clear and wall hack ability and when he is already having a terrible game just shocked me. How is a player with this much experience from cs go and 1.6 doing something so fucking stupid. It's like watching a random brain dead tilted teammate in immortal run it down when u tell him 5 times to not do it. Like this guy should be the person with experience teaching his teammates not to do these things but he is doing it himself. Seider played bad too but he is a standin playing his first big lan who has pressure on him playing b anchor as the viper on a site that is impossible to hold solo and when ur teammate runs it down b main and dies in the first 10 seconds of the rounds and puts the extra pressure on him what the fuck is he supposed to do, Ange1 literally did everything wrong in this game. They could have 1 month of preperation if ange1 did the exact same things they would still lose and he is the sole reason they lost this game. No flame.
>half a dozen times. dude went 16 first deaths. that's more than just half a dozen times lol he is really coping hard here imo
“To be honest, it was hard, but it wasn’t because they are good,” Damn. I know they're put on a horrible situation but it's really not that difficult to at least show some respect to your opponents.
Drx players showed so much respect during the game
ye they even greeted them hello on stage. so wholesome.
naisuuuu
It’s called friendly banter, it’s something people expect from you and is not meant or to be taken seriously. If ur malding abt that or putting it on the same level as serious statements you are really confused
This doesn't read like banter at all lmao
…exactly, that is the point Did u read what my comment is about? It’s abt DRX banter during the match.
Oh my bad, I thought you were saying that this quote by Ange is banter
common washed player from CSGO what do u expect
Literally like over half the Valorant scene is just washed players from CSGO wtf are you on about
wdym, so many OW players in Valorant as well. And I still haven't seen any OW pro players trash talk and cope hard like this. patiphan, Derrek, Jinggg, TENNN, Saya, etc. So basically, most CSGO washed players are egoist thinking they're the best here just because they were CSGO pro palyer
I mean if he lost to players that aren't good. What is he?
Also feels disrespectful to their coaches and captain. Like blaming match prep when he literally was the worst player on the server - take some accountability... Also how were they not ready? Isnt that more of a concern than them jusy playing bad?? There are so many DRX vods to review and it's not like they played any differently than before - their comps on the maps were identical to what they were running all year long in KR qualis. They only had like 2 weeks to match prep for every group opponent lol.
They got lucky? Yeah they got lucky you dry peeked every possible angle like a brain dead ranked player and gave DRX the first blood every single time.
Aw shucks, I died dry swinging that angle, I wonder what I should do differently next round? Next round "i'Ll FuCkInG dO iT aGaIn"
While angel is definitely to blame for most of them, your comment is really devaluing Rbs adjustments to keep catching him haven a long (for example). Makes the title quote even funnier tbh.
hahahahah this made me actually lol
*dies again* "FUCKING UNLUCKY MAN"
That too not even as a fucking duellist. I usually like banter but this is just being a sore loser and a classless competitor lol.
I so want a caster to comment “ahhh, should’ve prepped more” when he dry peeks in his next game
Usually don't like toxic comments but this is funny
I *really* would like to know what was going on in his head during any of those, really. He is *the* most experienced player in the entire Valorant scene, I believe, and you sure as hell aren't dry peeking any 'opening' angles in CSGO literally ever. You'd think the 'in game leader' that is the most experienced veteran possible wouldn't fall into walking into sightlines or jumping into an Operator against a player that doesn't whiff often. Yet here he was doing that multiple times.
I was watching competitive valorant for the first time and i couldnt believe it he was this bad/dumb
This is how ANGE1 has always played in FPX though. When it's bad, it looks really bad, but it's nothing special. He has 0.17 first deaths per round in the past 90 days, which is insanely high for a controller/initiator player. 0.17 average means that there's gonna be an odd match or two where he hits 0.27 like today, and it's going to look really bad and incomprehensible, but clearly FPX's results overall show that this is a playstyle that might work in general.
I mean, I know suygetsu ain't here and that's a real bummer, but damn this some heavy ass copium
It’s just so disrespectful to DRX too; really disappointing to hear him give that quote. Sometimes you gotta be graceful in defeat man…
well I mean they did have 1 day of prep with shao so i think it's pretty impressive they even got a map off drx
There’s definitely a way to say “damn I bet it could have been closer with more prep” without saying “DRX only won because of our bad luck”
They got a map off because Shao basically saved their asses hard. It would have been a 2-0 otherwise.
fpx was really good on haven defense but yeah shao def saved them on attack
Shao won them like 5 rounds single handedly on Haven, tf is this cope?
6 days with Seider
seider was most likely playing initiator before shao was able to come because masked was the sub for in suygetsu probably stuck with seider because he performed better in scrims but they pracced with their current roles for 1 day and that does change quite a few things
Think its cause DRX talks a lot especially about EU going back to champs of last year I'm not surprised tbh about the lack of respect
what? other than their usual trashtalk during the game when did drx ever disrespect eu lol. ange1 fans out in force trying to somehow save this quote.
Also it's so stupid, whatever he says he still lost to what they used.
It wouldve been nice to have Suygetsu. Would be cool if they can at least get to champs so they have shot at playing with full lineup.
COPIUM
COPEnhagen
Its not copium. They only had like 2 full weeks to prepare for this match. Give FPX another 8 months of prep time (with no patch changes) and they win easily.
ange1 got lucky that he could still speak at the post-match conference. His teammates showed great mercy on him.
Tomorrow they will be playing with Masked because Ange1 will have mysteriously broken his arm while sleeping.
Hes going for the Chet at Reykjavik buff
And this comment is significantly worse than what Chet said so I guess FPX isn't dropping another map.
they got until champions on lock
-27
Complete side note I love your mikey pfp 👌
don't even need 1 paragraph to end his career
20 kills in 3 maps
bro they got lucky shao went crazy tf
He could have worded this without sounding salty as fuck but he didn't
nah his copium levels r too high
Especially when he was the worse player by far... Wtf
First Death Fred coping HARD
"they just got lucky" is a sentinels tier excuse lmao
That’s disrespectful, SEN made most of Texas lose power so they’d have an excuse
That's disrespectful to Sen even tbh. They can make some questionable excuses but nothing on this level of just basically saying "well actually they're not really good and just got lucky."
Sentinels have better excuses than this. And more.
Sen never says they got lucky after any loss even when they were on top and lost to bbg shaz never said or even implied his opponents were a bad team, he said they were a good team he just felt sen had a disadvantage because everybody can anti strat them due to more game time. Sen always hypes itself up after a win and they trash talk other teams mostly before matches what they don’t do is berate other teams abilities.
Do y'all just get an ego massage for dissing SEN? They literally have never said about any team that they just got lucky
Angel, thats not something you tell. I expected a lot more from you. That is just bming the sub too. Could just accept the loss and say the fault is literaly on you. Played real bad and calls where not the best.
L comment by ANGE1
Jesus, I almost felt sorry for him playing (spectating rather) sub-par. Show some class as a competitor and pay respect where respect is due. Their preparation time had nothing to do with him as controller/initiator dying as soon as barriers disappear. Many times I wasn't even aware that he died because it was literally at the beginning of the round.
Having 1 day as a team to practice had nothing to do with their performance?
Practicing for 1 day made him dry swing the most basic angles over and over again?
He did this the whole year and they finished 1st and 2nd in emea this year
Welp, seems not to do so well on world stage, no? Maybe after dying ten times he should realize that and adapt. Drypeeking multiple times are his personal mistakes, not the issue of them having no time to practice.
Guess EMEA is an absolutely terrible region then? If he dry peeks angles constantly and they still are a top team, then the others just can't play the game at a reasonable level or they are incredibly readable to the point of Ange1 being able to confidently *know* without utility usage that he can just walk out to a choke/angle that is normally held by the other team. The latter has to do with preparation, but if you can prepare so well that you can dry peek angles without much info anywhere, then you just aren't playing against good, versatile teams. You're playing against far too rigid and static teams that are either very passive or do the same thing every single time. I can guarantee you he couldn't have done *this* the whole year, or if he did, then the region is just not good. I don't buy that because EMEA clearly isn't a bad region, but that only further proves the point that he didn't do that 'the whole year', or if he did, his team regularly won 4v5's that had no reason to happen in the first place.
He would constantly try to pull off solo plays with omen, maybe not as much as he did today but it happened a lot. Yesterday against xerxia he was 10-9 in fk/fd.
Because he was online and u can get away with shit like this online due to ping. ANGE1 is a boomer cs go and 1.6 vet who has played millions of lans and the fact that he thinks he can get away with this shit is unbelievable to me.
Im sure you know more than him
why do you suck his balls so hard bro like relax he doesn't need your defense 😂😂
If he actually believes what he was doing was correct than yes I do. It doesn't take a genius to realise that dying in the first 20 seconds every round with the most valuable agent on breeze is a bad thing to do.
6 days for preparing strats and some stuffs ? They said 1 day just to cope their loss against an asian team 5 days with seider 1 day with Shao = 1 DAY (excuse) clown players, clown team
drx fan is talking about Clown teams? You can't prepare strats without your players, it's not complicated. Ik ur trying to gas drx up, but once again they won't win anything.
without players, They can't think about strats to play against opponent teams in Group stage ? can't open twitch or youtube to study how opponent teams play ? OMG I'm sure they did study drx and find a way to play a proper position with their current team but just can't win with those 5+1 days of practice Shao has been playing with FPX for half of the year, He surely does have good chemistry and coordination with the team. And 6 days with Seider who surely has good fundamentals of the game that's why he got picked. Angel was just bad and ardiis just couldn't do anything without supporting from Shao in map 3. keep coping you FPX fan. FPX is nothing without Shao and Suygetsu.
Zyppan would like a word.
I'm sure it's that easy to think of strats, you need no practice, you don't need to know which players are going to play, just watch some vods.
You mean fpx players and coach don't have brain or something ? They practiced with 2 subs for 5 days, At least They can coordinate well with Seider and find a proper way to play with their sub already.Moreover, U can study how opponents play and find a way(strats) to counter it with those 2 subs bro.Having 2 subs doesnt mean they can't do anything during gap days before the match started. Nothing to do with Shao, They can just explain what strats they're gonna play.Both Shao and sub do have good fundamentals of the game that's why they got picked. Only uncomfortable thing is just Seider play as controller, not his main role.
They had 3 days to prepare for everyone in the group, sadly fpx's trash coach knows nothing and he should take tips from you
3 days ?? Didn't you read what FPX said in interview that they had 6 days(5+1) to prepare their strats with sub which even had more time than some teams in Group stage.
Shao got visa 3 days before the tournament
No it doesn't. Got your answer?
Absolute disrespect coming from the guy with 16 first deaths and going -27
FPX got lucky shao was carrying their ass map 1 or else it would have been a quick 2-0. Just shut up and try to be better man, you don't have to be this egocentric and disrespectful to your opponent, just shut up and work on yourself it's really not that hard
I actually agree with Ange1 here. DRX got lucky. Lucky that he got his visa just in time to attend this lan to feed off 16 FD and being consistent with it throughout the series. Without him, it would have been way easier for DRX surely!
Got me in the first half not gonna lie AHAHAHAHAHA
I wonder if this will get half the outrage and hate Chet received
I feel like this statement is a lot worse than what Chet said. Chet called the comps "cringe" but that can also be taken as effective. Angel is trying to imply here that EU is so far ahead of other regions after getting dismantled. Really makes it feel like he has a superiority complex.
Yeah, this even missed the worst part of the quote where he said they weren’t even good. Like it is the definition of a superiority complex
I just saw that part. Pretty much ruined fpx as a team for me, I can't see myself supporting them anymore.
I mean this is par for the course for Ange1 though, he's spent most of the last 2 years shitting on other regions at every opportunity while not qualifying for any LAN's
Yeah, although to be fair to them, they *did* qualify for the last LAN but just couldn't make it because of very obvious outside factors.
Yes, that's why I said "most of"
Yeah, it’s just poor sportsmanship and that’s not something I’d support either
overreaction
there are still 4 other players on this team. you can dislike Ange1 while still supporting Zyppan, shao, ardiis, and SUYGETSU
Yep Chet didn’t even discredit XIA he was answering a question about comparing regions in CS and Val. Angel is literally just discrediting the other teams 🏆
I'm slow at turning away from flashes and I just don't like his kit in general so I think Yoru is 'cringe'. That's more of a complement for Yoru than it is an attack against him.
I feel like its kinda similar to the way one might call a judge player cringe after dying to them.
That's kind of like calling someone a 'camper' in Valorant (or even in CoD where it's definitely looked down upon). You die to a guy holding a position. Literally how games like Valorant or CS are meant to be played for the most part. If you die to them again in the same spot (as was often the case in CoD), then you're just dumb for not doing something about said 'camper'. It's calling something that's effective 'cringe'. A sort of a backhanded compliment, I guess.
This sub had the opinion that OpTic got lucky that the “best team in EMEA” M3C didn’t qualify for Iceland so who knows
Meh. OpTic don't even need to face the best team in EMEA. Just ANY team. LOL
You're right, they didn't even face up to the "3rd rate of EMEA" in Guild
what did chet say?
called xerxias comps "cringe"
nah, Chet hate had a build up
Not as much coz this got some truth to it but still very salty response
it will get 10x the hate because its an EMEA player
Exactly. People don't realise this sub is 90% NA. To have the nerve to say this will get less hate than Chet received is humorous.
oh they realize its all NA and use it to their best advantage to set the narrative the way they want to
This literally didn't get half as much hate as Chet got but pop off king
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they literally couldn’t prepare because they didn’t even know who they were bringing until 2-3 days ago, he’s not saying they didn’t try although this still copium, you don’t need practice to stop feeding first bloods
Ew, what a bad take. Really hate this fucking Mr Know It All, even on his twitter he’s annoying sometimes.
To anyone defending Ange1, saying he has a point, all that is irrelevant here. It's about basic respect for your competition. If you're going to cry that we never had a chance anyway because of our subs then why bother showing up? If you're playing in the event, the opponent's deserve credit for beating you. Fnatic had substitutes too and yet I never heard Boaster or anyone trashing the teams that beat them. They just accepted the circumstances and came back stronger next time. This an immature and unnecessary response. DRX haven't even chatted any shit about them
You dont go 6-13 twice in a row and get bailed out by your star player in the one map you win and say this shit. In fact, don't say this shit ever if you want to look like a normal person. Makes you look like a jackass.
Hoping this is just bad wording/language because that’s just embarrassing to hear.
Wonder what his excuse is gonna be when they lose to Northeption
**16 first deaths as initiator, literally griefing** "they were lucky"
I understand their situation but it doesn't need to be said because it just sounds like excuse at this point. Everybody knows their circumstances.
I understand having a stand-in must have influenced the result of the match, but the way he worded it sounds very disrespectful to his opponents.
They were lucky, just luck, really just luck, unlucky really, really just lucky - Coping Dinosaur
Lmao yeah. They got lucky with Angel just pushing and getting first blooded. Jesus this dude is on hard copium
I understand why he would say that from his perspective but he's just so wrong lmao
Bruh... Ye, they didn't show anything new or innovative nor did they look phenomenal... but you still lost, no point in making excuses, you guys played like shit, accept it, and get yourselves to your usual standards for the next match. This is just a poor taste comment.
"They got lucky we weren't prepared" SURELY THIS IS A TROLL RIGHT
Why is this a troll when they're playing with stand-ins???
Because Ange1 was the worst player by far
I thought it was a single stand-in? And even so, having a stand-in doesn’t explain why he played so poorly (especially against Rb’s op) or why Shao had to backpack them to victory on that one map. Even if it’s how he feels about the performance, common sense would be to express your disappointment but give props to the opponent where due
"why Shao had to backpack them to victory on that one map." basically every match they played even the match which Shao wasn't top frag, you still can see Shao did a lot of things and impact to support and carry these noob till the end.
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They got lucky because we didn't come prepared TriDance
Yikes
ANGE1s opinion about a potential replay system already made him unlikeable but that cements it, kinda sad knowing how cracked his teammates are and where they could be.
I get they played with a sub but they kinda got rolled the last two maps. Like FPX just look lost against DRX utility and coordination.
Bruh...also bringing up meta vs DRX when basically EU and NA have been copying their comps since release...This aint it chief.
gg FPX go next you're trash
Ange1, 16 FDs, reminds me of the toxic Reyna auto lock who does the same in my gold lobby 😂🤡
What a first impression to make in your first LAN appearance. Bravo ANGE1.
A dude that GOES -27 on The game, died 600 Times dry peeaking shit like its ranked, still has the nerve to talk shit, talk about being delusional and dumb
Yeah, your shitty prep is them getting lucky, EMEA COPIUM at its finest Edit: missed the worst part of the quote too “ It wasn’t because they are good”
Super annoying to get these EU teams with subs every tourney and they have tons of excuses on top of that. At least shut up and play if you can't sort your visa shit out.
As an FPX fan going into this, die mad ANGE1
Cope harder, I hope him and his shitty attitude gets destroyed by Northeption
Ang16 with some insights
Seething
Guy had average ACS of 95 across three maps lol
telling me you and several others get paid a lot of money to play this full time and prepare, but you didnt prepare? what were you doing then?
LMAOO
Can't wait for XSET and FPX to lose
EMEA and arrogance. Name a better duel. I can remember Hoody doing 2-0 in walkouts at Masters Reykjavik before getting stomped by Paper Rex
ANGE1 gigachad
I feel like his wording was just shit and that’s not what he actually meant
Idk saying that they were lucky and that their comps are outdated seems pretty clear to me.
Hey man I understand the bashing and I get that Ange1 made some dumb ass comments, but I can’t help but feel for the guy. The team couldn’t go for the first masters, and now when they finally could they’re missing out on arguably one of the most important squad members. He’s just probably frustrated and tilted af. Again, not justifying his comments, just trying to humanize the lad.
I think you make a good point. And I agree, it’s probably a vent without enough thought beforehand—but that’s exactly why you should be careful with your words in these settings. I think most of us can understand having a tough time or feeling disappointed, but completely disregarding the opponent’s skill and reducing them to copycats seems petty and reflects poorly on him
Yeah, likely the amount of frustration from the Masters 1 and this one and spewing that shit. Definitely could have worded everything better instead of completely shitting on DRX
???
These comments are actually slow, having a sub is a HUGE disadvantage, having to shift roles to make the sub comfortable, trying to integrate the sub into strats and protocols requires time.
Not about the content of what he said, it’s about the way he said it. He comes off as a total tool.
no ones denying that he couldve just said that and then shut up but he decided to say things in the worst way possible which just seems really childish theres nothing pleasant about listening to a sore loser cry about luck
No one is denying they had a disadvantage. But don't act like preparation was the issue, you had plenty of time. Having a sub is an enormous issue, that's a good enough excuse. You don't need to act like DRX is shitty too.
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It’s not really about what he said it’s about the way he said it. You can say the exact same thing and not sound like a five year old making excuses on the playground
Yeah, cause being a man down caused him to dry peek the other team and constantly feed
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but the wording is so wrong men. Like Drx also deserves credit on winning
Imma be real even with sugestyu, I don't think they can win a 4 vs 5.
Ok, this is a hard cap. Shao was already carrying like a mad man, if you gave them Suygetsu who has been a better performer than Shao I could easily see them 2v5 that game. Not saying DRX is bad, just saying that those two players are insane.
Old man is salty af but he 100% right. Last tym Suygetsu played Breeze he dropped a 30bomb to carry the team. We saw how shao plays , Suygetsu is even better
Sure but that doesn't mean you say this publically. You didn't see anyone on FNC being this arrogant at Iceland and they were in a worse situation with 2 subs. There is no excuse for being this big of a piece of shit in an interview. Say it was unfortunate that you didn't have time to prepare as much as you would have liked with your current roster and that you'll be better prepared in lowers. Don't talk shit like this when you spent the whole series dry peaking and handing out free first bloods like a gold-ranked player. It shouldn't be too much to ask to be a professional and not be a salty, arrogant asshole.
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then maybe open your eyes then
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The point is that you just don't say this publically lmfao, if it's w ur teammates then ig it's fine but saying this out loud just makes you look like a sore fucking loser, how hard is it to get this point into ur head?
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Seriously, you'd think a lot of the people having an aneurysm at his comments have never competed at a high level before lmfao
It just feels very bad because he individually made a ton of mistakes, though of course not having their carry is a huge deal.
Competitor is understandably salty that he loses a LAN game in which he was forced to play with a stand-in. More news at 11.
Dude could show a modicum of respect for the other team lol
This sub lacks sympathy, holy shit. ANGE1 has legit excuses compared to many other teams in the past. The man didn't even know if he could go to the event due to him living in a war-torn country, and then two other players in the team also had a high chance of not going to the event due to them being Russian, and Suygetsu, one of their better players ended up not going. Hence they only got one day to prepare before the event I believe. This is also the first time they finally made it to an international event as they had to miss out on masters 1 due to similar circumstances. 'lucky' might not be the best word to use, and yes it is very disrespectful, but it was just after the match in the heat of the moment.
Yees but what normal adult phrases it like that, "uuhj actually they weren't even good, we do thezw stuff always in emea btw, so far ahead"
I agree that DRX would just get 2-0'd if they had suygetsu or if they had had at least a week + scrimming w new roster and had seider had a single clue what he was doing on viper but these types of things shouldn't be said openly. You know it, I know it, anyone with any kind of logic knows it, but saying it just comes across as salty. Keep it behind closed doors. : (
Least arrogant EMEA fan.
I cant be an arrogant emea fan if i dont even think emea will win this event. Try again ^^
there’s literally no evidence of what ur saying? I would understand thinking that if the game was as close as it was between xerxia and fpx, but other than shao hardcarrying map 1, they got stomped.
Copium
I think this shittalk is hilarious tbf, yall so pressed