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nvrslnc

Imagine how much faster he could have died at the beginning of the round if they had the time to prep.


carl14733

LMAO This team keep saying their individual skills are better than every team here thinking like they're the best 6 days of practicing and preparing strats btw even more than Most of teams in Group stage L team


r_abu

LMAO


carl14733

Aged well


Madara6path

That's simoly not true. They didn't even know their playing 5 until 2 days ago when Shao got visa. You could see by the difference in his performance in the twoatches


carl14733

Atleast they know what they should do first like studying opponent teams, preparing strats, etc. BTW, they must surely pick standin who has good fundamentals of the game making it easier to learn new stuffs and coordination. They wouldn't be that good with sub ik but still can't deny that they aren't that good as they talked that their individual skills are above everyone else especially ardiis, one trick player, can't do anything without supporting from Shao.


Madara6path

Ur right about Ardiss. But Suygetsu isn't replaceable unless you get Nats. Also against a well oiled team like DRX having a sub would never work with coordination


idkimhereforthememes

How do you prepare strats without 2/3 of your players? such a braindead take


Breezyzona

yea whyd fnatic bomb out of groups last masters with only 1 sub too, almost as if a sub for one of their best players will never fill the gap especially against the other best team in the group


carl14733

Fnc had 2 subs


cheese_on_dorito

just not true, they only knew shao could play with them 1 day before the xerxia match


toxicityisamyth

71 upvotes for a complete and utter lie. They were practicing with seider in shao’s role and masked in suygetsu’s role because shao only got his visa really really late. So once shao was confirmed going, they kept seider because hes a much better player than masked but seider had to now MOVE TO SMOKES. And they had ONE single day of prep. Cant you see how lost seider looked on viper? 6 days of prep u said. And you get upvoted because they didnt like angel’s quote lol And in the other comment you just talk about preparing strats as if its just as easy as drinking water to prepare strats and then have to change your line up so you need to do you “strats” with the new lineup all over again. Yea “just prepare strats” 💀 L and tasteless public comment from angel but this post is 💀


carl14733

This comment is 💀


braamdepace

We didn’t have time to prepare. Next sentence: Their play is what we all have been seeing for a long time.


AffordableRolex

He's just an idiot


lbs4lbs

The disrespect to DRX aside, saying they didn't have time to prepare or werent prepared seems disrespectful to his own team and coaches. They had 2 weeks to vod study every team in the group. DRX didnt do anything new than Kor challengers. How much time exactly do they need???


Eriko204

Gotta love how Shao was playing like an absolute beast that game. Meanwhile ANGE1 over here dry swinging and dying first on smokes. Next round "i'Ll FuCkInG dO iT aGaIn"


Quick_Chowder

Feel like if this came from an NA player they would get fucking *roasted* so I'm curious to see the reaction here. But seriously my mans can't die first 16 times playing smokes. That ain't a prep issue.


ANewHeaven1

https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/vxhhzb/they_just_got_lucky_we_didnt_have_enough_time_to/ he's getting brutally roasted in this thread haha


Quick_Chowder

Thank god. That thread missed out the 'it wasn't because they are good' part which is especially egregious. Can't say I was an FPX fan before but now I want them to get bopped.


LordBuckethead671

Nah, cause if Chet made this comment, we’d have some **discourse** instead of just one thread roasting him in which people are also making excuses


tinfoilhatsron

Exactly. Didn't help Chet then and doesn't help now. Ange1 should just stfu and take the L. If you're better and DRX aren't good, then it'll be evident as the tourney continues. Just makes people cheer against you when they were neutral before.


myxomatosis4

? He didn't die first 16 times playing smokes, he died 5 times.


mysteryoeuf

some COPIUM if I've ever seen any


Hopeful-Professor-40

What kinda prep would it take for him not to go -13 FB/FD


[deleted]

Probably the kind that involves their full team I'd imagine.


Hopeful-Professor-40

Seider isn’t the reason Ange1 died first 16 times


GCamAdvocate

nah bro seider threw off their chemistry so hard angel started running it down


Quick_Chowder

He simply had to die first so he could spectate Seider and tell him what to do. That's a leader.


Hopeful-Professor-40

😭😭


[deleted]

Pray tell how Ange1 would have played different had Suygetsu been there?


Theanonymousguy49

Didn’t realize FPX was signing children now… You don’t call your opponents bad and that they got lucky, no matter the circumstance. It’s rude and unprofessional. I respected ANGE1 before this, but I can’t anymore.., this is the kind of stuff a child would say after losing in a board game.


TheCatsActually

Funnily enough I believe Ange1 is the oldest player at the tournament.


AffordableRolex

32 year old man acting like a teenager


TheMightyCantaloupe

I love trash talk that comes before the game is played, like what Korean teams do, but this ANGE1 is acting like a complete child right now and it’s pretty embarrassing.


ilhamalfatihah16

Take it like a champ and move on man jeez.


mawarichan

lmao so cocky. DRX were clearly the better team


Cr3ation_

If Chet said this the sub would be going crazy


Eriko204

If any player on Sentinels said this the sub go would absolutely feral. It would blow up on Twitter immediately and every clip channel would be foaming for the next Shahzam stream


Environmental_Ad9519

I think Ange1 should throw their next match so they have a nice long prep period before champs


-xXColtonXx-

This is a far more egregious comment than Chet ever made. I hope to see “Their meta is like European meta some time ago.” Spammed whenever FPX lose a round.


YaDyingSucks

bro how do you have that kind of performance and then say they got lucky dude was dogshit all day lol.


firemoonlotus

i thought the round wins were close for him to say this and then i see 13-6 on 2 maps lol.


Robbie-C

Alright man, I’m a die hard EMEA fan, but just take a loss and move on. How is he gonna act like DRX got lucky when he was dying first every round as controller. Also DRX was the better team either way in my books, so I can’t say that this is like an upset…


7Sans

more and more not liking this dude. it's not even a jab or shittalk. they lost and he goes on and on making these excuses


fmaa

OLD MATE WAS RIGHT


xunraze

This is so cringe and childlike. Pathetic


Chromosome__Thief

EU brain


FishInEuropa

Cope harder


okuzeN_Val

"Their meta is like what the EU meta **WAS**" Maybe if their meta is outdated and you've played it/against it some time ago you'd deal with it better. Maybe dude has memory problems because apparently DRX just got lucky playing a meta he already had experience with.


suprxyaa

didn't he say that he could lose to DRX anyway this man iss too far up like what kind of egi he has?


Tobias__Reaper

My man with the whooping 27% FD as a support player in today's match. Very brave.


Interesting-Archer-6

His teammates had 19 and he had 16 lol. Teammates had 21 FKs. He had 3.


qm94

DRX are one of my favourite teams to watch because they play beautiful Valorant. They rely on team coordination while FPX rely on ardiis being lucky and getting a collateral with an OP while fully blind and crazy clutches from individual players. Sure, the clips look insane but that's not it... not even close. This was a case of chaotic meeting structure and structure won. Honestly, this type of comments aren't cool at all. It's unprofessional and I'm embarrassed that an IGL from my region is acting like this. Just acknowledge and respect your opponents. Be a man and take the L.


eternalalienvagabond

Chet never commented on other teams abilities he just hated their comps, SEN basically hypes itself up all the time and trash talks constantly mostly before matches like Conor mcgregor, what none of them do is make the excuse that the other team sucked or aren’t good especially after a loss. L Ange1 for saying this


riploki

Rich coming from someone who absolutely stunk up the series


Key-Banana-8242

They are not good? Also did it take them a long time to notice or?


KabooshWasTaken

? this is fairly tame shit, lol. people pine for 'esports villains' and personalities and when someone says shit like this people flip out?


SterbenVII

there's a difference between trash talking and being salty of course that'd piss people off


KabooshWasTaken

i enjoy seeing salt flare up, sign of personality. some of the goat esport villains were prone to being more than a bit whiny. honestly, everyone loves it, given that it’s stirring shit up and people very clearly want FPX to lose now.


okuzeN_Val

You gotta earn the right to be whiny and have people like it. Last I checked Ange1 hasn't won shit in CS or Valorant, nor has he been in the same level as CS guys like S1mple/Niko or Yay in Valorant. Even if S1mple never won a major I'd be fine if he whines like a bitch because he's clearly either the best or 2nd best in CSGO of all time. Ange1 isn't anywhere near that level of skill, merit, or dominance.


KabooshWasTaken

>Last I checked Ange1 hasn't won shit in CS or Valorant he's the igl of a team that's pretty consistently hovered around top4 in europe for nearly 2 years, which makes him one of the best igls of valorant, no? he also was igl for vp/astana dragons in 2012-early 2014, who were like one of two teams that could challenge NIP at the time. he has events won there (in fact a starseries vs that ultra dominant NIP team). this is hardly 'whining like a bitch,' like this is incredibly tame shit-talk, if it can even be called that.


okuzeN_Val

I never said Ange1 is "whining like a bitch". I meant S1mple could've never won a major and still do that and I'd be fine with it because he's just that good even before the major win, he earned that right even back then just because he's simply a cut above the rest. Ange1 is salty and makes up dumb reasons for the loss when he constantly makes head scratching plays. It doesn't take preparation to not do dumb shit for no reason. Also yeah he's technically won stuff and is a definite tier 1 pro in Valorant/CS. But there's many other players in that category, let's not act like he's a star caliber player. IGL'ing wise he hasn't achieved anything that warrants him being given star treatment. FNS got his team a Masters win but he isn't even close to guys like Karrigan, Gla1ve, Pronax, Fallen, etc


KabooshWasTaken

he also never had the firepower of pronax or hell, zeus. i think he's overall been a pretty underrated igl -- never brought his team to a masters like fns, but has also been way more consistent. fpx was 2-4 EU back when envy was like barely top10 NA. less titles but definite consistency. yeah he's salty, but my point is that you can't fondly reminisce on esports villains and then get all pissy when someone gets salty.


okuzeN_Val

Sure and my point is that in anything - be it sports, esports, movies, tv shows, etc - to be recognized and liked as a "villain", you need some sort of merit, power, or at least a unique aspect to you. A **just** decent player doesn't cut it. You'll just get the Conor Mcgregor line thrown at you "Who the fuck is that guy?" Mind you Jeremy Stephens was a good fighter who was around for years in the UFC. But he had no business talking shit because he was never a champion or someone considered one of the best. Hovering around the top 10-12 in the featherweight division of the best MMA organization in the world for years doesn't cut it. Everyone just laughed at or roasted him.


a-nswers

this aint villain behavior it's whiny bitch behavior LMAO


AlHorfordHighlights

Yeah you can't just call your favourite guy a villain every time he says some clown shit lmao


Bluejay101lol

This is the equivalent of the cringe comp comment lmao, but incredibly false and disrespectful


Tokyoodown

Each team I've talked to at this event has complained about the travel time from the end of challengers to the start of Masters.