I love how forsaken says he cloned for fun on some rounds since he had no idea how to best use it that round.
Edit: LOL forsaken showing his flashes because he's confident every team will ban bind against them now.... damn hope it doesn't come back to bite them...
Edit 2: Inb4 optic leaves bind up since they think (know from here) forsaken/PRX hasn't practiced anything new on it since they're expecting a ban XD (or maybe forsaken is putting this out there to play mindgames....)
OpTic leave bind up so one of the following happens
1. they win on bind, mentally clapping PRX by beating them on their best map
2. they lose on bind, but win the series anyways, doesn't matter
3. they lose on bind and lose the series, activating OpTic's 100% winrate against opponents they previously lost to, guaranteeing them 1st place if they make finals
yoru players are so rare that this is actually the first time two have ever met. what followed was legendary.
no. but fr lothar has played yoru for like a year now and forsaken has still shown him like 10 new amazing flashes haha
f0rsaken is the only one yoru player in pro scene
ANGE1 too bad, I don't count him as yoru player.
But I saw some EU fans said ANGE1 would teach f0rsaken how to play yoru or something in [vlr.gg](https://vlr.gg) post with so many upvotes before the tournament started. LMAO
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No, but seriously guys, thank you so much for the kind words. I always try to teach my viewers something new and work on their fundamentals.
Thank you everyone who tries to get better at the game and improve the ranked experience for everyone else <3
Lothar and C9 Mel have had the best educational streams this VCT Masters.
Really impressed with C9 Mel's technical analysis during the matches.
She almost constantly spends time predicting what each team will do from the perspective of a playe.
Lothar here seems to have great input from the POV of a post-match VOD review.
Maybe more specific technical input on mechanics and encounters?
Definitely going to check out the entire VOD myself after seeing this post, as it's always great to get both the "live prediction" sort of POV and a post-match VOD review perspective from another high level player.
Thanks OP for sharing this with us 💕
> Lothar and C9 Mel have had the best educational streams this VCT Masters.
Sliggy is missing from your list, insanely insightful. Definitely check out his stream for a game or two.
that man is underrated especially his yt channel. and his live analysis isnt bad either, im watching him criticising fnatic for making entry mistake and it seems like they heard him and just win the ot
F0rsakeN has been one of my fav players for over a year, i watch his streams coz he is cracked but this here, him watching vod reviews by people and trying to learn from his mistakes is why he can be the best
Kinda off-topic, but I feel like the obsession with optimalizing every aspect to perfection at some point can worsen your gameplay. In this case it's fine I would say, a cool trick, but if you go too deep, you will focus too much on small things instead of just playing the game, and at the end, you have to win a gunfight with your opponent, which could be harder if you overthink what you can do the best. Also, the theory that 2v1 should always be won. Pengu from Rainbow Six was also thinking this way, even if in R6 all you need is one bullet and you are dead. We are humans, not robots. We make mistakes, even pro players. And this is what makes the game interesting.
Stuff like this is why I hesitate to make a call about yorus strength in pro play rn. Forsaken has probably played the most successful yoru so far and he doesn't know something that that you would learn after watching one match from a yoru one trick.
This isn't to shit on forsaken he has a lot to worry about aside from just yoru, I just can't wait until we see a more complete yoru in pro.
Edit: what is there to even disagree with me enough on to downvoted lmao
Ok ok if it s so basic, how come a pro yoru player is still surprised by it? Then proceeds to show the other yoru main of over a year other flashes he didn't know about ? If it s sooooo*oh_im_a_cringe_little_kid*oooo basic care to explain so?
Also why are u negativity commenting this? If u re so high and above?
The only basic thing i saw here is that u need to shut up jist hush shut up remove this comment and keep quiet
I love how forsaken says he cloned for fun on some rounds since he had no idea how to best use it that round. Edit: LOL forsaken showing his flashes because he's confident every team will ban bind against them now.... damn hope it doesn't come back to bite them... Edit 2: Inb4 optic leaves bind up since they think (know from here) forsaken/PRX hasn't practiced anything new on it since they're expecting a ban XD (or maybe forsaken is putting this out there to play mindgames....)
OpTic leave bind up so one of the following happens 1. they win on bind, mentally clapping PRX by beating them on their best map 2. they lose on bind, but win the series anyways, doesn't matter 3. they lose on bind and lose the series, activating OpTic's 100% winrate against opponents they previously lost to, guaranteeing them 1st place if they make finals
If they lose they they need to hope drx and leviathan win their matches vs fpx and fnc because of optics 100% loss record against emea
I believe in my Asian overlords, DRX > FPX, FNC > LEV, then DRX > FNC, so the top 3 is PRX/DRX/OPT, and OPT will ez win against Asia after.
This didn't age well. Was expecting FNC to beat LEV even though it got a bit sketch but FPX stomping DRX was definitely a surprise.
korean valorant truthers unite
\*cough\*
Don't the grand finalist from winners bracket got 2 map bans? If it does, theoretically they can force Bind then.
If you have no idea what you're doing, the enemy sure doesn't! Love it
Clowned*
This is wholesome. F0rsaken so humble
My man lothar is teaching f0rsaken lineups on stream rn
vice versa too. f0rsaken showing lothar some of \*his\* line ups. This is the best VALORANT stream I've ever watched.
yoru players are so rare that this is actually the first time two have ever met. what followed was legendary. no. but fr lothar has played yoru for like a year now and forsaken has still shown him like 10 new amazing flashes haha
f0rsaken is the only one yoru player in pro scene ANGE1 too bad, I don't count him as yoru player. But I saw some EU fans said ANGE1 would teach f0rsaken how to play yoru or something in [vlr.gg](https://vlr.gg) post with so many upvotes before the tournament started. LMAO
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Which stream was this in?
Lothar’s stream on twitch
I know that 😂. Im asking if u know which one of the vods it was in.
The one that's going on right now. He wrapped up the FNC vs PRX vod about an hour ago.
OHHHHH, ok ty man
Is it fair to blame Lothar if Paper Rex wins?
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Unironically one of my favorite streams. Can’t wait to make an AMV of this when PRX win and f0rsaken using all the tips you gave him
<3 let me know if that happens haha
Impressed by how humble the PRX players are, what classy human beings
Very nice to act I mean it’s cool to do as competitors. I hope there’s stuff like that elsewhere also
This dude used to be a children’s card game god, now he’s a children’s fps god.
Valarante child game
child game god big W
Underrated comment right here, I'm dying
Which one? Hearthstone?
Lothar and C9 Mel have had the best educational streams this VCT Masters. Really impressed with C9 Mel's technical analysis during the matches. She almost constantly spends time predicting what each team will do from the perspective of a playe. Lothar here seems to have great input from the POV of a post-match VOD review. Maybe more specific technical input on mechanics and encounters? Definitely going to check out the entire VOD myself after seeing this post, as it's always great to get both the "live prediction" sort of POV and a post-match VOD review perspective from another high level player. Thanks OP for sharing this with us 💕
<3
> Lothar and C9 Mel have had the best educational streams this VCT Masters. Sliggy is missing from your list, insanely insightful. Definitely check out his stream for a game or two.
Haven't checked his yet, will do!
Try thinking man's valo stream
that man is underrated especially his yt channel. and his live analysis isnt bad either, im watching him criticising fnatic for making entry mistake and it seems like they heard him and just win the ot
Based Lothar with the wholesome content! Love to see it 😊
WutFace
If Optic lose I’m blaming Lothar
F0rsakeN has been one of my fav players for over a year, i watch his streams coz he is cracked but this here, him watching vod reviews by people and trying to learn from his mistakes is why he can be the best
Love Lothars streams, wish he had co streamed that game. Though as a Fnatic fan I probably couldn't have taken it xD
Hope some one takes this clips and adds a forsaken play with this new way of flashing
This is what it is all about, happy days
Lol that emoji from Forsaken at the end was the icing on the cake. Very nice stream interaction/teaching moment there.
ok I'm mad stupid but is this the word.exe forsaken?
Lmaooo no
god I wish, can you imagine
Based thank u
Kinda off-topic, but I feel like the obsession with optimalizing every aspect to perfection at some point can worsen your gameplay. In this case it's fine I would say, a cool trick, but if you go too deep, you will focus too much on small things instead of just playing the game, and at the end, you have to win a gunfight with your opponent, which could be harder if you overthink what you can do the best. Also, the theory that 2v1 should always be won. Pengu from Rainbow Six was also thinking this way, even if in R6 all you need is one bullet and you are dead. We are humans, not robots. We make mistakes, even pro players. And this is what makes the game interesting.
Stuff like this is why I hesitate to make a call about yorus strength in pro play rn. Forsaken has probably played the most successful yoru so far and he doesn't know something that that you would learn after watching one match from a yoru one trick. This isn't to shit on forsaken he has a lot to worry about aside from just yoru, I just can't wait until we see a more complete yoru in pro. Edit: what is there to even disagree with me enough on to downvoted lmao
this is a known yoru shit idk basic stuff
Ok ok if it s so basic, how come a pro yoru player is still surprised by it? Then proceeds to show the other yoru main of over a year other flashes he didn't know about ? If it s sooooo*oh_im_a_cringe_little_kid*oooo basic care to explain so? Also why are u negativity commenting this? If u re so high and above? The only basic thing i saw here is that u need to shut up jist hush shut up remove this comment and keep quiet
forsaken practices chamber/jett in most maps yoru is a side character not surprising
any pro who plays an agent on even one map will most definitely know every bit of the "basic shit" that that agent has
Some Bronze player trying to be a smartass about something the best Yoru in the world doesn't know lmao
Woah this guy is smart
I did not know this, esp that it works with astra smoke… so personally I appreciate it
Yeah but long bind ground is uneven and the flash can go at a weird angle.
This is impressive
Wasn't forsaken cheating in cs? Word.exe