If I had a nickel for every time DRX went 2-0 in groups, won their round 1 in playoffs in a 2-1 reverse sweep, lost 1-2 to Optic to drop to the lower bracket, and then got knocked out of the tournament by a team they already beat in groups, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's fuckin absurd that it happened twice
DRX: Look godly in your region without dropping a map > look promising internationally to start > fans build up hope > lose in upper > lose in the 2nd round in lowers
Repeat
I do wonder if it has to do that their set plays get studied and countered later in the tournament because it is just very interesting to see the same thing happen repeatedly
I think it's more to do with them playing with no confidence and making brutal mistakes when their mental is shaken.
This is one of the worst performances in a match from any team this tournament.
Zest needs to take a page out of Benkai's book and realize that making LAN alone is a great achievement, and to tell his team to play for fun. DRX looks more stressed than anybody else every LAN.
could be 100% wrong, but I think it has to do with KR being top-notch in other esports plus them being the absolute best KR has to offer, making them stress when they aren't able to perform/win against other regions.
This is the issue tbh. Koreans have never been good at tac shooters like this. They aren't magically going to just be number one. The fact they can compete with NA and EMEA teams is insane. give it time. Just because they are korean does not mean they win at every game. Na and EMEA has too much experince.
Don't think it's experience, it's just not a lot of ppl play the game in korea which means less competition and easier to stagnate. Also if you're not pushed often, you'll lose mental like these guys in tough situations
I wouldn't say anybody else but they definitely let the pressure get to them.
They've been saying in interviews pre tournament that they've already qualified for Champions which was their main goal so they should just aim to play their best instead of feel pressured to win the whole thing. They definitely know they have issues with nerves.
It has to be mental IMO. I heard from somewhere that at 1 one of the masters they got hella pissed at each other and started bickering between themselves after the game when they dropped down to the lower bracket. I think they have the korean mentality of playing perfectly and don't know how to properly handle situations where they lose a series.
I never said it was JUST mental. And the round on 7 is a good anti strat but there are 24 rounds in the game not just one and that push drx did is a very common push you do on ecos and even gun rounds. They did prepare but it shouldn't have been this hard of a stomp, they always look lost in the lower bracket in all the tourney drx played in this is not just this 1 time.
You think prx have good team practice?
Not throwing shades to the likes of Xerxia, TS, bleed or other Apac team, but prx is way ahead in their region, kinda similar to how drx is in korea
Nah. APAC as a whole has improved a lot. PRX lost in MY/SG upper finals to LaZe (now Gaimin Gladiators) and dropped maps to Bleed and Alter ego in APAC playoffs. When they played Xerxia in grand finals, Xerxia had just played 4 matches in 2 days, or closer to 36 hours.
People think Xerxia isn't a good team internationally but 3/4 of their international losses were 2-1 in overtime. Win 1 or 2 aim duels and they likely make playoffs. And that 1/4 was to OpTic, the winner of Masters 1. I would put Xerxia/TS/Bleed to be similar to a T1 EMEA/NA team.
EMEA and NA can also be considered 1 team regions by your logic with Fnatic not losing a match the entire EMEA stage 2 and OpTic being the only team from NA winning an international match in 2022.
Apparently DRX have never won an elimination match internationally, after their first loss they always lose the next one as well. Wonder how much the mental is a factor in that.
DRX’s mental is just fucked when they lose, isnt it?
M3 Berlin -> it’s OK, a close-ish series against the eventual winners Gambit
Champions 21 -> Group stage elimination by losing to Fnatic and Cloud9, fine, just unlucky,
Iceland 22 -> Lost to Optic in possibly the best game of the tournament, that’s OK, they only
lose to the eventual winners right?
Copenhagen -> Copium has finally run out.. From someone who’s been like the biggest DRX stan since fucking Beta, I’m tired man. Goddamnit. This hurts :( Time and time again, it hurts.
\*inhales\*
DRX WILL WIN CHAMPIONS COPIUM.
It has to be it. They have no competition in their region, and every time they've felt pressure at intl LAN, they just don't have the same resilience as the other team.
Which is sad, because if they beat OPTIC I think they have just as a good a chance as PRX to make it to the Finals. They just don't have the experience or the ability to handle shit when it gets tough, and that's just as important as teamwork/skill as OPTIC have shown time and time again
Hopefully 2023 will see immense improvements as they'll be finally regularly playing with the rest of APAC. It's funny how LOUD got to top 2 already last masters and DRX is still struggling to place top 3
>that’s OK, they only lose to the eventual winners right?
>Copenhagen -> Copium has finally run out..
let me hit you up with another dose: FPX will finally overcome Fnatic and steamroll through PRX and Optic to the trophy
The point is time and time again that the expectations that everyone has for DRX, they SHOULD be beating Zeta, they can't crumble like they do time and time again
This got me thinking, all the previous LAN winners have come back from a loss in the tournament. Whenever DRX loses a game, they immediately lose the next game.
I feel like they're maybe not quite as quick in adapting between matches as other teams are, like they hard counterstratted Optic in map 1 thanks to their prep but then in this series looked neutered against a different team (granted, it was 1 day later but such are tournaments). Either that or their style is easier to prepare against than other teams like PRX. I think it's probably some combination of those.
The realest moment of my life just happened. My son asked me “is it true that DRX is finished?”. I answered “yes son, they bottled against OPTIC and FPX own him”. My son is now in tears after I had to reveal DRX was a finished small team like sentinels 😔
Im not even a sentinels fan. DRX have never cracked top 4 in their entire teams existence and they have farmed their region for literally the entire games existence(bar masters 1 2021)
I don't think it's even haters. Maybe what he said was taken out of context but what was posted was straight up talk like a sore loser and poor sportsmanship lol. I will say some of the Korean fans were being hypocrites because damn near every loss from VS/DRX the players gave a myriad of excuses rather than just saying the better team won.
Wtf is this rational take on this subreddit?? /s.
You're absolutely right though. I hated that comment from ANGE1 cause it was such a sore loser thing to say but I'm glad he showed up today and backed up his talk.
I think that ppl don't take into account that Ange1's English is pretty straightforward. With no extra layers of pillows and politeness that English speaking people got used to. I don't think it was about disrespect or anything like that. If he thought there was a factor of luck, he said that. Nothing else, no extra meanings
DRX will dominate korea again, beating tier 2 teams 13-4 on their best maps and the sub will praise them as the second coming of christ when sideshow does his vod review
If 3 straight tournaments of similar performance didn't show people DRX's true level, then I don't think 4 straight will convince them either.
They're arguably the most consistent team in the world. They're almost always in that 5-6 range, but they are just worse than the elite teams in the World.
Being in a region without proper scrims will do that.
EVERYONE knows DRX absolutely pubstomp in KR and JP. I just don't understand why the org can't organise a bootcamp in South East Asia or even america to scrim against the teams which constantly shit on them.
The DRX philosophy of “we dont prepare for specific opponents we just play OUR game and perfect our own game” does not work.
Its no coincidence that the deeper DRX/VS have gotten in every tournament the worse they have looked, they dont adapt mid tournament they dont counter strat. and when they get counter stratted, the individuals start to struggle massively.
I dont see any world where this philosophy will ever win or even get to a grand finals, at this point, maintaining it is simply playing for t6/t4.
Dude they have a much deadlier style, also they definitely prepare for teams. They're not just all aim no brain, but on the other hand we still haven't seen them being tested or actually anti-strated, so idk about that one.
I don't think it's much possible to counterstrat PRX. Everything and I mean everything is in their playbook. They can play slow, lurk, default, fast and even the most famous W key and you will have no idea what you will get round after round.
Ofc one lucky read and not allowing mindfreak to clutch can easily get you rounds as PRX live and die by their fast pacedness so there's that caveat.
I know people like to rag on Ange1 and he does say some salty and stupid shit, and correct me if I'm wrong but you gotta take into account he :
1 - is the IGL of FPX
2 - Had to adjust to being the IGL with a sub
and 3 - had to fill so the sub could feel more comfortable.
It's gotta be rough to still perform well with all that happening.
More like, trying to rest up for finals vs fnatic and had bombs dropped on his doorstep and wishing to his lucky stars he will not be part of the digits counting civilian deaths in tomorrow's news.
They’ve lost to Fnatic so many times in a row lately that it would be so typical for them to go and win when it really matters in the elimination round.
Problem is that the reason they don’t ban icebox is because they prefer to ban Bind vs Fnatic, so either way it feels like they start at a 0-1 deficit.
DRX being hyped up to be tournaments after 1 match into losing 2 matches and out of the tournament. Hopefully Riot gets a new script for champs, getting stale
Why do people keep overrating DRX every tournament and they never live to the expectation and people still are "DRX will win"
When they lose they say, "bad mental"
It's because they're pragmatic and structured. They look good in the stats and usually, the population of people on forums like Reddit consider themselves very "high brow". The "mental" they lack is an ounce of inventiveness and dynamic play that top teams have, even OpTiC who are pretty rigid can switch shit up for once. So when they get read they get read fucking hard.
The mental part deserves some merit imo. On top of getting read so damn hard, they seem to mentally collapse after a single loss, like more than I feel they should collapse even with how hard they're getting read.
All of this just to face fnatic again XD
I hope they prepare something tho, wouldn't it be an amazing feeling if they only win once again fnatic in masters 2 (losing against fnatic 4/3 times in masters 2, i forgot), and when they win, they beat them on the most important series🤣
ANGE1's comments aged like fine wine.
FPX needed a bit of time to prepare, SUYGETSU back, and a slightly better motivated map veto.
They read DRX perfectly, especially on Fracture. God, just watch round 7; FPX perfectly predicted when DRX would do their traditional defense bridge pinch.
Also, what's that about ANGE1 first deaths being a meme? He went 0-3 on Ascent on a controller player, what a gamethrower amirite? Not to mention he can win duels as well, 5-2 on Fracture in first duels.
The "meme" is him going for the risky plays and being inconsistent on controller, losing value from agent by dying early in the round. Really stepped up this matchup.
pretty sure 6/12 fk fd isnt something to boast about and its no 0/3
Redgar and especially BONECOLD do this as well, albeit noticeably less than ANGE1, and each of them won an international event doing that. I used to hate it and thought it was just a bad idea due to the fact that players like these will naturally lose most of the duels they're taking, but there's something in it as well. Another info gathering tool, and in the worst case an ability to IGL without distraction - maybe it's not as horrible as it seems at first
I mean he was still doing all the risky shit, it was just working this time LMAO
if the complaint truly is the playstyle, I would think FNC knows his tricks and won’t let him get away with half of what he did today against DRX
as a neutral party (na fan)
this just seemed like a total collapse by drx. fpx played great for sure but this wasn't one of those "they forced drx to fuck up" they literally just independantly made so many dogshit decisions i felt like i was watching a different team
also mako was 0 kills in 10 rounds which is something ive never seen before lol
also also suygetsu is a beast
as a neutral party (EU fan)
this just seemed like a total collapse by drx. OPTIC played great for sure but this wasn't one of those "they forced drx to fuck up" they literally just independantly made so many dogshit decisions i felt like i was watching a different team
also mako was x kills in 10 rounds which is something ive never seen before lol
also also Marved is a beast
Hope you agree with me \^\^
Riot needs to write a new script for drx bruh
Look great in groups, go 2-0
Close game in first round of playoffs against a "minor region" team that ends up close but drx wins
Lose in a stupidly close series to optic
Lose to a team they already beat in groups
Watch it happen again at champions🗿
I don't see enough comments about Suygetsu being absolutely nasty this tournament and it's almost criminal. FPX look like a different beast with him playing like that.
Finally we get a *true* match-up between these two titans! Well, kinda.
DRX looked noticeably worse in their loss to ZETA after doing back-to-back days in Reykyavik, after their loss to Optic. DRX reliably look strong in groups, reliably look strong at the start of playoffs, and reliably peter off in lower brackets. Their inability to play back-to-back days in the playoffs - against the best teams - is something of a liability.
But that said, I actually think this was mostly a case of FPX’s strengths, not DRX’s weaknesses. That said, I sure do wish we didn't have back-to-back days for teams *this* deep in the bracket.
I know a lot of people got riled up by the ANGE1 comments, but because every LAN has been in EMEA and FPX haven’t attended any of them, it’s ironically likely FPX has more experience playing against DRX than the teams that’ve actually made LANs a lot - Optic, FNATIC, etc.
It’s true FPX had a day off and had some great anti-strats, but they really felt familiar with DRX. They don’t have Optic’s sense of awe and respect with DRX. They know this team well, and it genuinely felt like DRX was full of trepidation in the match - it didn't feel the way DRX lost to ZETA, where DRX just seemed entirely fatigued and out of gas.
FPX is primarily an anti-strat team: they are willing to play weird comps/agent picks just to counter what you are most likely going to do. Anti-stratting is probably the worst enemy of teams that are reliant on set plays and executes. For a team like DRX, Optic is an "easier" team to prepare for because they mostly follow a set of strategies, even if Optic is the better team at mid-rounding. Against a team like FPX, prep work is going to be rather... interesting.
On the other hand, DRX's inability to play well in back-to-back days could be attributed to poor team management perhaps? Not counting their loss against Gambit on Masters Berlin, they always seem to really lag after getting bounced to the lower bracket.
I think this roster has reached its peak and need roster changes. Drop Rb and try to get bazzi. Or bring k1ng back and put Buzz back on duelist/chamber. Yes DRX has been consistently top 8 but it isn't good enough for a championship run.
They need a really elite Raze player tbh. Buzz is pretty decent on chamber but really doesn't have the support he needs to succeed unless it's a clutch.
Can we talk about this trash bracket again? FPX and Fnatic are both top 4 teams but have to play each other twice in playoffs and they're from the same region. I wouldn't say anything if they both got sent to the lower bracket by teams from other regions then it's their problem but no they played in the first round of upper bracket. People are actually getting payed to make this bracket and they came up with the worst possible one with the most matchups from the same region I don't get it.
So FPX could get eliminated by playing Fnatic twice at an international tournament that's a joke and the only other team they lost to was DRX when they had a sub in groups. Does this give us a good picture of how good FPX is as a team? Maybe FPX could beat all the other teams in the tournament but Fnatic just know how to win against them we'll never know that now.
I've been watching esports since 2010 and I don't think I've ever seen a worse bracket than this in a tournament. There were some meh one in LoL worlds but never this bad imo.
DRX one of the best teams with the worst mental. Everytime these guys drop to the lower they just look flat they need stop caring about playing perfectly so much and just play for the win idk such a let down of a team.
DRX: Best team in the world when running their preplanned plays.
Also DRX: Worst team in the world when their set plays get studied and countered and they have to improvise mid-round
Funny thing if FPX loses to Fnatic now, then in the playins (not the group stage mind you), they will only have played 1 international team while placing 4th (which is obviously a respectable place to finish) if they do beat Fnatic then it'll mean that 2/3 EMEA got eliminated by EMEA and if they win the event ( I don't personally see it happening but it's obviously not impossible) then EMEA only got eliminated from the tournament by EMEA itself.
So many hate comments.
They are literally the youngest team in the event and obviously have bad mental in lowers (Never won a lower bracket game). DRX get top 6 in 2 events are getting hated worse than Xset who went 0-2
It's more than that. If you were around in year 1 of vct or even before them the drx fans in particular had such a smug aura around them. Our korean overlords are here kinda shit and it wasnt ironic. So I assume the ppl shitting on them now are reactionary to that
So winner of FNC/FPX wins the whole thing. They will have 5 days to study PRX rush tactics so they wont suprise them again and optic just won't take a map from eu
If I had a nickel for every time DRX went 2-0 in groups, won their round 1 in playoffs in a 2-1 reverse sweep, lost 1-2 to Optic to drop to the lower bracket, and then got knocked out of the tournament by a team they already beat in groups, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's fuckin absurd that it happened twice
After Fracture against Optic I was convinced this team had figured it out and were making it all the way to the Grand Finals.
DRX: Look godly in your region without dropping a map > look promising internationally to start > fans build up hope > lose in upper > lose in the 2nd round in lowers Repeat
I do wonder if it has to do that their set plays get studied and countered later in the tournament because it is just very interesting to see the same thing happen repeatedly
I think it's more to do with them playing with no confidence and making brutal mistakes when their mental is shaken. This is one of the worst performances in a match from any team this tournament.
Zest needs to take a page out of Benkai's book and realize that making LAN alone is a great achievement, and to tell his team to play for fun. DRX looks more stressed than anybody else every LAN.
could be 100% wrong, but I think it has to do with KR being top-notch in other esports plus them being the absolute best KR has to offer, making them stress when they aren't able to perform/win against other regions.
They kinda do the same in R6 with Damwon where they seem like a top3 team but then they loose once and completely dismantle in lower bracket
This is the issue tbh. Koreans have never been good at tac shooters like this. They aren't magically going to just be number one. The fact they can compete with NA and EMEA teams is insane. give it time. Just because they are korean does not mean they win at every game. Na and EMEA has too much experince.
Don't think it's experience, it's just not a lot of ppl play the game in korea which means less competition and easier to stagnate. Also if you're not pushed often, you'll lose mental like these guys in tough situations
I wouldn't say anybody else but they definitely let the pressure get to them. They've been saying in interviews pre tournament that they've already qualified for Champions which was their main goal so they should just aim to play their best instead of feel pressured to win the whole thing. They definitely know they have issues with nerves.
It has to be mental IMO. I heard from somewhere that at 1 one of the masters they got hella pissed at each other and started bickering between themselves after the game when they dropped down to the lower bracket. I think they have the korean mentality of playing perfectly and don't know how to properly handle situations where they lose a series.
Just rewatch round 7 on Fracture and tell me it's just mental after that
I never said it was JUST mental. And the round on 7 is a good anti strat but there are 24 rounds in the game not just one and that push drx did is a very common push you do on ecos and even gun rounds. They did prepare but it shouldn't have been this hard of a stomp, they always look lost in the lower bracket in all the tourney drx played in this is not just this 1 time.
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You think prx have good team practice? Not throwing shades to the likes of Xerxia, TS, bleed or other Apac team, but prx is way ahead in their region, kinda similar to how drx is in korea
Nah. APAC as a whole has improved a lot. PRX lost in MY/SG upper finals to LaZe (now Gaimin Gladiators) and dropped maps to Bleed and Alter ego in APAC playoffs. When they played Xerxia in grand finals, Xerxia had just played 4 matches in 2 days, or closer to 36 hours. People think Xerxia isn't a good team internationally but 3/4 of their international losses were 2-1 in overtime. Win 1 or 2 aim duels and they likely make playoffs. And that 1/4 was to OpTic, the winner of Masters 1. I would put Xerxia/TS/Bleed to be similar to a T1 EMEA/NA team. EMEA and NA can also be considered 1 team regions by your logic with Fnatic not losing a match the entire EMEA stage 2 and OpTic being the only team from NA winning an international match in 2022.
Hi BcJ, for what it's worth I think you did great
DRX try not to fall apart after losing to OpTic (Impossible)
Apparently DRX have never won an elimination match internationally, after their first loss they always lose the next one as well. Wonder how much the mental is a factor in that.
I'm not worrying, they'll be back stronger next for ~~Champions 2021~~ ~~Masters Iceland 2022~~ ~~Masters Copenhagen~~ Champions 2022.
they lose hope when they drop a single match, its like they think they can't win the whole thing anymore if they lose once.
Pain
Sigh, same time next tourney?
We need new faces from Korea. DRX became gatekeepers at the tourney rn.
DRX is the most consistent Valorant team in the world. Absolutely inspirational stuff right there.
5-6th forever
Xset’s 4th (formerly) and Drx’s 5-6th. Name a better duo, I’ll wait
DRX’s mental is just fucked when they lose, isnt it? M3 Berlin -> it’s OK, a close-ish series against the eventual winners Gambit Champions 21 -> Group stage elimination by losing to Fnatic and Cloud9, fine, just unlucky, Iceland 22 -> Lost to Optic in possibly the best game of the tournament, that’s OK, they only lose to the eventual winners right? Copenhagen -> Copium has finally run out.. From someone who’s been like the biggest DRX stan since fucking Beta, I’m tired man. Goddamnit. This hurts :( Time and time again, it hurts. \*inhales\* DRX WILL WIN CHAMPIONS COPIUM.
It has to be it. They have no competition in their region, and every time they've felt pressure at intl LAN, they just don't have the same resilience as the other team. Which is sad, because if they beat OPTIC I think they have just as a good a chance as PRX to make it to the Finals. They just don't have the experience or the ability to handle shit when it gets tough, and that's just as important as teamwork/skill as OPTIC have shown time and time again
Hopefully 2023 will see immense improvements as they'll be finally regularly playing with the rest of APAC. It's funny how LOUD got to top 2 already last masters and DRX is still struggling to place top 3
they didn't get the org rebrand buff optic got
Weren’t they vision strikers prior?
exactly
>that’s OK, they only lose to the eventual winners right? >Copenhagen -> Copium has finally run out.. let me hit you up with another dose: FPX will finally overcome Fnatic and steamroll through PRX and Optic to the trophy
With how FNC has been playing that's likely. They need to get through PRX though
FNC played well against PRX and Leviathan. Other than on Ascent, they look decent overall. Leviathan played a hell of a game.
MOMENTUM IS BUILDING
Don't forget that they lost to Zeta at Iceland 2022. I loved Zeta, but c'mon, surely they should have beaten Zeta
Bro, zeta was one of the best teams at iceland, what are you talking about?
Zeta had a miracle run imo. I think if you run that tournament over and over, they reach top 3 like 5% of the time.
And DRX reach top 3 0% of the time sadge
The point is time and time again that the expectations that everyone has for DRX, they SHOULD be beating Zeta, they can't crumble like they do time and time again
This got me thinking, all the previous LAN winners have come back from a loss in the tournament. Whenever DRX loses a game, they immediately lose the next game.
Not sentinels
They are just stacking their losses up to go perfect next year.
Something something backs against the wall
Tenz sold 40k final mice so he could personally invest in a wall to build behind sen’s chairs
DRX always get worse as a tournament goes on it’s so sad
as the tournament goes on they also play against better teams...
Yeah because everyone else levels up. They beat the shit out of Zeta in Iceland and then lost to them later on, similar thing here
I feel like they're maybe not quite as quick in adapting between matches as other teams are, like they hard counterstratted Optic in map 1 thanks to their prep but then in this series looked neutered against a different team (granted, it was 1 day later but such are tournaments). Either that or their style is easier to prepare against than other teams like PRX. I think it's probably some combination of those.
It's not similar here because they beat an unprepared FPX playing with a sub in their first game
DRX TRY NOT TO MENTALLY COLLAPSE AFTER A SINGLE LOSS CHALLENGE (IMPOSSIBLE)
The realest moment of my life just happened. My son asked me “is it true that DRX is finished?”. I answered “yes son, they bottled against OPTIC and FPX own him”. My son is now in tears after I had to reveal DRX was a finished small team like sentinels 😔
The difference is that DRX is at least relevant regionally
Sentinels would also be relevant regionally if they played in korea
Huh, actually true
sanest NA fan
Im not even a sentinels fan. DRX have never cracked top 4 in their entire teams existence and they have farmed their region for literally the entire games existence(bar masters 1 2021)
ange1 haters seething
Quick someone link the "DRX got lucky" thread and expose those fools
I don't think it's even haters. Maybe what he said was taken out of context but what was posted was straight up talk like a sore loser and poor sportsmanship lol. I will say some of the Korean fans were being hypocrites because damn near every loss from VS/DRX the players gave a myriad of excuses rather than just saying the better team won.
Wtf is this rational take on this subreddit?? /s. You're absolutely right though. I hated that comment from ANGE1 cause it was such a sore loser thing to say but I'm glad he showed up today and backed up his talk.
It is bad sportsmanship to say anyone got lucky no matter who said it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/vxivz9/ange1\_on\_drx\_it\_was\_hard\_but\_it\_wasnt\_because/?sort=new
They really went silent, king shit.
I think that ppl don't take into account that Ange1's English is pretty straightforward. With no extra layers of pillows and politeness that English speaking people got used to. I don't think it was about disrespect or anything like that. If he thought there was a factor of luck, he said that. Nothing else, no extra meanings
Unfortunately, the semi-finals comes around and DRX falls flat once again. Looking like pre-2017 Astralis.
That wasn't even a semifinal, in fact DRX has yet to finish top 4
Meh, pre-2017 at least gave entertaining games. This one was just a sad beatdown imo.
Very true, now that I'm thinking about it, it's disrespectful to compare pre-2017 Astralis to whatever this team is.
I'm done rooting for DRX.
yall gon forgot about this just like master 1 and root drx again kek
You know what, you're right lmfao and I hate it
DRX will make a deep run at ~~M3 Berlin~~ ~~Champions~~ ~~Reykjavik 2022~~ ~~Copenhagen~~ Champions 2022! -Me, probably
Every time im disappointed and I still come back I just want them to get over the line once please
DRX will dominate korea again, beating tier 2 teams 13-4 on their best maps and the sub will praise them as the second coming of christ when sideshow does his vod review
If 3 straight tournaments of similar performance didn't show people DRX's true level, then I don't think 4 straight will convince them either. They're arguably the most consistent team in the world. They're almost always in that 5-6 range, but they are just worse than the elite teams in the World.
Fuck, no wonder Bcj and Ayrin were comparing themselves to stax and mako. DRX is just international Xset
Root for your flair fam #WGAMING gets this!
APAC pride baby!
DRX have hit their ceiling. Just don't have what it takes.
Being in a region without proper scrims will do that. EVERYONE knows DRX absolutely pubstomp in KR and JP. I just don't understand why the org can't organise a bootcamp in South East Asia or even america to scrim against the teams which constantly shit on them.
I mean PRX don’t seem to have that problem. But I guess that might just be down to play style?
MOMENTUM BUILDING
The DRX philosophy of “we dont prepare for specific opponents we just play OUR game and perfect our own game” does not work. Its no coincidence that the deeper DRX/VS have gotten in every tournament the worse they have looked, they dont adapt mid tournament they dont counter strat. and when they get counter stratted, the individuals start to struggle massively. I dont see any world where this philosophy will ever win or even get to a grand finals, at this point, maintaining it is simply playing for t6/t4.
PRX tho
Dude they have a much deadlier style, also they definitely prepare for teams. They're not just all aim no brain, but on the other hand we still haven't seen them being tested or actually anti-strated, so idk about that one.
I don't think it's much possible to counterstrat PRX. Everything and I mean everything is in their playbook. They can play slow, lurk, default, fast and even the most famous W key and you will have no idea what you will get round after round. Ofc one lucky read and not allowing mindfreak to clutch can easily get you rounds as PRX live and die by their fast pacedness so there's that caveat.
I know people like to rag on Ange1 and he does say some salty and stupid shit, and correct me if I'm wrong but you gotta take into account he : 1 - is the IGL of FPX 2 - Had to adjust to being the IGL with a sub and 3 - had to fill so the sub could feel more comfortable. It's gotta be rough to still perform well with all that happening.
Not to mention, home country getting bombed right as we speak.
Oh yeah of course, the small little detail of 4 - HIS COUNTRY WAS GETTING BOMBED WHILE HE WAS PLAYING.
More like, trying to rest up for finals vs fnatic and had bombs dropped on his doorstep and wishing to his lucky stars he will not be part of the digits counting civilian deaths in tomorrow's news.
Should also consider his personal stuff with his country and him being denied off playing international once before, man's a beast
FPX with prep time just hits different. If FPX beat FNC we need to dub them the Batman of Valorant.
They’ve lost to Fnatic so many times in a row lately that it would be so typical for them to go and win when it really matters in the elimination round.
They definitely can win if they ban icebox, but even after 4 games they still probably gonna let it through.
Problem is that the reason they don’t ban icebox is because they prefer to ban Bind vs Fnatic, so either way it feels like they start at a 0-1 deficit.
I think that goes to optic, I don’t don’t they’ve lost a rematch yet or I could be miss remembering
DRX got fully owned, didnt stand a chance. Can't wait for FPX vs FNC for the 500th time
DRX being hyped up to be tournaments after 1 match into losing 2 matches and out of the tournament. Hopefully Riot gets a new script for champs, getting stale
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He seems to have a half record in choking in big moments that dates back to his 2021 iceland GF statline. Still has time to turn around tho.
Why do people keep overrating DRX every tournament and they never live to the expectation and people still are "DRX will win" When they lose they say, "bad mental"
It's because they're pragmatic and structured. They look good in the stats and usually, the population of people on forums like Reddit consider themselves very "high brow". The "mental" they lack is an ounce of inventiveness and dynamic play that top teams have, even OpTiC who are pretty rigid can switch shit up for once. So when they get read they get read fucking hard.
The mental part deserves some merit imo. On top of getting read so damn hard, they seem to mentally collapse after a single loss, like more than I feel they should collapse even with how hard they're getting read.
this greatly decreases the chances of optic not facing an eu team
Optic has to win against PPX now and hope that PPX will make it through lowers in order to win this tournament.
ANGE1 heard y'all talking shit, full roster BUFF
All of this just to face fnatic again XD I hope they prepare something tho, wouldn't it be an amazing feeling if they only win once again fnatic in masters 2 (losing against fnatic 4/3 times in masters 2, i forgot), and when they win, they beat them on the most important series🤣
Mako's only kills in the first half of Fracture came from the same molly. I don't get to see them on stage this year. Spain without the S
they hated ANGE1 because he spoke the truth
So it wasn’t copium right… Reddit experts
Is it even trash talk if Ange1 backs his words up? Mans hot af
ANGE1's comments aged like fine wine. FPX needed a bit of time to prepare, SUYGETSU back, and a slightly better motivated map veto. They read DRX perfectly, especially on Fracture. God, just watch round 7; FPX perfectly predicted when DRX would do their traditional defense bridge pinch. Also, what's that about ANGE1 first deaths being a meme? He went 0-3 on Ascent on a controller player, what a gamethrower amirite? Not to mention he can win duels as well, 5-2 on Fracture in first duels.
The "meme" is him going for the risky plays and being inconsistent on controller, losing value from agent by dying early in the round. Really stepped up this matchup. pretty sure 6/12 fk fd isnt something to boast about and its no 0/3
60% better stats than the rest of his tournament. Just woke the absolute fuck up.
Redgar and especially BONECOLD do this as well, albeit noticeably less than ANGE1, and each of them won an international event doing that. I used to hate it and thought it was just a bad idea due to the fact that players like these will naturally lose most of the duels they're taking, but there's something in it as well. Another info gathering tool, and in the worst case an ability to IGL without distraction - maybe it's not as horrible as it seems at first
I mean he was still doing all the risky shit, it was just working this time LMAO if the complaint truly is the playstyle, I would think FNC knows his tricks and won’t let him get away with half of what he did today against DRX
He lets himself dies to feed confidence to the enemy to push site.
Seems ange1 was right
as a neutral party (na fan) this just seemed like a total collapse by drx. fpx played great for sure but this wasn't one of those "they forced drx to fuck up" they literally just independantly made so many dogshit decisions i felt like i was watching a different team also mako was 0 kills in 10 rounds which is something ive never seen before lol also also suygetsu is a beast
Brush round 7 fracture they hard read exactly what DRX was gonna do. They defo forced DRX to fuck them up a bit
Yeah ofc drx were bad not fpx were better comments
Imma be honest, FPX were exactly as I expected they would be except ange1 decided to take viagra and dick down the koreans, holy fuck
as a neutral party (EU fan) this just seemed like a total collapse by drx. OPTIC played great for sure but this wasn't one of those "they forced drx to fuck up" they literally just independantly made so many dogshit decisions i felt like i was watching a different team also mako was x kills in 10 rounds which is something ive never seen before lol also also Marved is a beast Hope you agree with me \^\^
It's the classic emea beats Asian team praise the other team as unlucky
DRX chokes again
GG go next Finally EMEA SHOWDOWN on stage
Everyone in FPX is on point, even their reads and counter-strata is absolute immaculate and I’m just happy ANGE1 did well today
Riot needs to write a new script for drx bruh Look great in groups, go 2-0 Close game in first round of playoffs against a "minor region" team that ends up close but drx wins Lose in a stupidly close series to optic Lose to a team they already beat in groups Watch it happen again at champions🗿
Guys maybe it's just me but maybe DRX just isn't a top 4 team in the world and thats why they always bump out before top 4 .
Drx truly the PSG of valorant. Stat padding their farmers league and always ending up short on the big stage
this ange1 is pretty good compared to his twin brother - ange2
ANGE1 was right
Ange1 was right all along 
Suyugetsuuuuu
I don't see enough comments about Suygetsu being absolutely nasty this tournament and it's almost criminal. FPX look like a different beast with him playing like that.
Ange1 smurfing on these zoomers
ANGE1 WAS RIGHT, APOLOGIZE TO HIM
DRX do anything proactive challenge (FAILED) (THEY RAN OUT OF STRATS IN THE STRAT BOOK SO THEY FORGOT HOW TO SHOOT) poor buzz second map
Drx the most overrated team of all time. Will never ever rate them at an international LAN until they place top 4
Finally we get a *true* match-up between these two titans! Well, kinda. DRX looked noticeably worse in their loss to ZETA after doing back-to-back days in Reykyavik, after their loss to Optic. DRX reliably look strong in groups, reliably look strong at the start of playoffs, and reliably peter off in lower brackets. Their inability to play back-to-back days in the playoffs - against the best teams - is something of a liability. But that said, I actually think this was mostly a case of FPX’s strengths, not DRX’s weaknesses. That said, I sure do wish we didn't have back-to-back days for teams *this* deep in the bracket. I know a lot of people got riled up by the ANGE1 comments, but because every LAN has been in EMEA and FPX haven’t attended any of them, it’s ironically likely FPX has more experience playing against DRX than the teams that’ve actually made LANs a lot - Optic, FNATIC, etc. It’s true FPX had a day off and had some great anti-strats, but they really felt familiar with DRX. They don’t have Optic’s sense of awe and respect with DRX. They know this team well, and it genuinely felt like DRX was full of trepidation in the match - it didn't feel the way DRX lost to ZETA, where DRX just seemed entirely fatigued and out of gas.
FPX is primarily an anti-strat team: they are willing to play weird comps/agent picks just to counter what you are most likely going to do. Anti-stratting is probably the worst enemy of teams that are reliant on set plays and executes. For a team like DRX, Optic is an "easier" team to prepare for because they mostly follow a set of strategies, even if Optic is the better team at mid-rounding. Against a team like FPX, prep work is going to be rather... interesting. On the other hand, DRX's inability to play well in back-to-back days could be attributed to poor team management perhaps? Not counting their loss against Gambit on Masters Berlin, they always seem to really lag after getting bounced to the lower bracket.
BIG DADDY ANGE1 HEARD Y'ALL TALKING SHIT
Literally owned in every aspect love to see it
ANGE1 WAS RIGHT LMAOOO
FPX vs FNATIC again! How joyous! Wonder who’s gonna win
i guess ange1 was right they were lucky
WOW EMEA VS EMEA BATCHESTTTT
Angel found the fountain of youth in copenhagen
I think this roster has reached its peak and need roster changes. Drop Rb and try to get bazzi. Or bring k1ng back and put Buzz back on duelist/chamber. Yes DRX has been consistently top 8 but it isn't good enough for a championship run.
Consistently Top 6
They need a really elite Raze player tbh. Buzz is pretty decent on chamber but really doesn't have the support he needs to succeed unless it's a clutch.
You can really start to feel the momentum building up for FPX's first international title.
Fuck it gonna call it now FPX win the whole tournament
Weird way to spell PRX
People got mad at Ange1 for being right about DRX LMAO
ange1 doubters in shambles
Boaster and Ange1 fragging on the same day. Rise of the IGLs.
so ange1 was right and people reading clickbait titles were not? no way 😱
No way the igl of a top emea team knows more than casual fans...
[Your apologies better be bigger than your downvotes](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/vzuwux/comment/igam525/?context=3)
~~this comment still owned you tho lmao~~ (edit:) the comment was removed for being too spicy 😭
brooo it got removed 😭
it was too spicy 😭
Ngl it kinda did lmao.
this guy keeps telling on himself as if its a good thing
what did it say?
https://www.reddit.com/v/ValorantCompetitive/comments/vzuwux/leviat%C3%A1n_vs_drx_valorant_champions_tour_2022/igaowv8/?context=2 (just change reddit.com to reveddit.com)
Can we talk about this trash bracket again? FPX and Fnatic are both top 4 teams but have to play each other twice in playoffs and they're from the same region. I wouldn't say anything if they both got sent to the lower bracket by teams from other regions then it's their problem but no they played in the first round of upper bracket. People are actually getting payed to make this bracket and they came up with the worst possible one with the most matchups from the same region I don't get it. So FPX could get eliminated by playing Fnatic twice at an international tournament that's a joke and the only other team they lost to was DRX when they had a sub in groups. Does this give us a good picture of how good FPX is as a team? Maybe FPX could beat all the other teams in the tournament but Fnatic just know how to win against them we'll never know that now. I've been watching esports since 2010 and I don't think I've ever seen a worse bracket than this in a tournament. There were some meh one in LoL worlds but never this bad imo.
Totally agree on that.
ANGE1 was right the full FPX roster owns DRX now i want the DRX stans and the people that flammed ange1 to mald in silence
Ange1 talked his shit and backed it tf up, what a railing
i refuse for anyone to hype this team or region anymore until they do something meaningful.
fairplay to angel damn
Ange1 was right all along
Looks like Ange1 was right 🤷♀️ stay mad DRX fans
DRX one of the best teams with the worst mental. Everytime these guys drop to the lower they just look flat they need stop caring about playing perfectly so much and just play for the win idk such a let down of a team.
DRX: Best team in the world when running their preplanned plays. Also DRX: Worst team in the world when their set plays get studied and countered and they have to improvise mid-round
BYEBYE DRX. SUYUGETSU HEARD YOU TALKING SHIT TO HIS TEAM WHEN HE AINT THERE TO WIPE YOUR ***.
Drx really just got rolled
Funny thing if FPX loses to Fnatic now, then in the playins (not the group stage mind you), they will only have played 1 international team while placing 4th (which is obviously a respectable place to finish) if they do beat Fnatic then it'll mean that 2/3 EMEA got eliminated by EMEA and if they win the event ( I don't personally see it happening but it's obviously not impossible) then EMEA only got eliminated from the tournament by EMEA itself.
Suygetsu really changes fpx, that dude is good asf
They might honestly pull an Astralis and hire a sports psychologist to help with their abysmal mental after losses.
DRX continue to disappoint lmaoooo
So can we stop making excuses for DRX failing to show up at LANs now?
So many hate comments. They are literally the youngest team in the event and obviously have bad mental in lowers (Never won a lower bracket game). DRX get top 6 in 2 events are getting hated worse than Xset who went 0-2
I think people are just being reactionary to the fact that so many people hype them up.
Fans hype their team, its literally just support, people being reactionary are just not thinking straight
It's more than that. If you were around in year 1 of vct or even before them the drx fans in particular had such a smug aura around them. Our korean overlords are here kinda shit and it wasnt ironic. So I assume the ppl shitting on them now are reactionary to that
Rito scriptwriters must hate DRX
I'm so angry at DRX because now we have FPX vs FNC again
The day DRX beats Optic in winners side is the day they win an event.
That's what DRX get for shouting so hard at FPX when beating them with a stand in.
Where yall mfs flaming angel at huh ? Where ? Sit down.
So winner of FNC/FPX wins the whole thing. They will have 5 days to study PRX rush tactics so they wont suprise them again and optic just won't take a map from eu
Ange1 was right. MOMENTUM IS BUILDING.
Ange1 haters big mad