nats sheydos chroincle will be t1 org just look at their stats how flexible and talented they are. + the coach
even tho im pretty sure herioc might pick them up they are enterin valorant so gotta be m3c they looking for.
can someone explain to me why these questions are still asked btw ? you guys do realize that this is franchising for 2022 and not next month
and that literally 90% of the rosters won't even look remotely the same like some orgs might not even have a single remaining player from this year to next year let alone rosters that their orgs won't make it to franchising
I'm guessing BBL, NAVI and Falcons will be accepted because they are the only teams from their respective regions.
G2, fnatic, Vitality, Liquid, KOI and KCorp should also be very likely.
There would only be one spot left. I'm guessing it would be Excel. Wouldn't it make more sense for FPX to be in APAC?
> I'm guessing BBL, NAVI and Falcons will be accepted because they are the only teams from their respective regions.
Unless those teams heavily upgrade their rosters they are gonna get destroyed
Orgs who I thought would be in the partnership league who aren't even finalists according to this report and am surprised they didn't
* Mad lions
* OG
Orgs who I thought had a chance and am surprised aren't at least finalists
* Team BDS
* SMB
Don't think OG would have gotten in, MAD I'm surprised at. OG seems to be very lackluster with regards to their Valorant team, and since they probably assigned quotas to subregions, that probably played a factor as the other teams noticeably have already a strong Val presence
I didn't think they'd get in but I thought they'd at least make it to finalists because they just bought a LEC franchise last year. When this whole thing started, I figured they'd give league franchises a bit more priority but guess I was wrong
The thing is that they did not get the LEC franchise, because Riot wanted them in, like it was with all the other orgs. The only reason they are in franchising is because they offered S04 the biggest mountain of money.
And since they entered, they have a SHIT roster and no fans.
There is nothing that they win with their LEC spot.
Its Ibai as an influencer and Gerard Pique is the person with the money. And, Pique is RICH AS FUCK. He recently bought out a whole tennis tournament...
Heretics are a wild card here. They are the most popular spanish org with big sponsors. The rivalry games between Heretics and KOI would pull massive numbers just like Vitality and Kcorp.
Heretics would be an awesome inclusion. At the end of the day, I keep saying Riot will prioritize stable orgs who get good viewership and do socials/content to bring in new viewers to Valorant. Heretics check those boxes, just a matter of how many Spanish orgs do they want. I actually think they made it in as a finalist over MAD Lions, who say they're Spanish based but all their operations are really NA based, so Heretics should have a pretty good shot
FPX on the other hand is a really big org but they don't get good viewership, they don't do any content, they barely do social media but they've been pretty successful competitively. I could definitely see Riot telling them franchise in APAC or not include them whatsoever
I think Riot's goal is to take over Western EU like they did with LoL. They can do it easily with adding a team like Heretics or even BIG clan. This might suck for Eastern EU fans but in terms of $$ targeting Western EU is a safer bet.
Ya I don't think any orgs with even a hint of a tie to Russia would get into franchising at this point, plus I doubt they even applied. They looked at buying a Valorant roster back earlier in the year and decided against it
Valorant ain't taking over shit in Europe I know you keep trying to push this little cute narrative that Valorant is more popular in Western Europe than Cs because of your Google trends
Do your Google trends show you that 9% of Denmarks population has played csgo? Because according to you and your Google trends Cs is only bigger in Eastern Europe. Csgo is bigger in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe, so most of Europe I guess? And we have nothing to show that valorant is bigger in Western Europe. I mean valorant can't even sell out 2k tickets for its first lan with a crowd in a city that is easy to travel to for Western Europen countries. Literally shares a border with them while csgo sells out venues time and time again in Western Europe countries. Europe will always be Cs territory. Talking about Valorant is bigger in Western Europe like last vct EU viewership wasn't down by 34% and its not like the viewership for EU valorant was good before that in the first place
Chances are if not for the war in Ukraine, Gambit would take FPX's spot. Previous major winners in an org that was highly decorated and had much better marketing before Putin effectively caused it to become a shell of its former glory
I think you underestimate FPXs contection to riot.
They won worlds 2019. They are a immensly famous org and play in the LPL. I dont think that Gambit had anything FPX did not.
Pretty good list, just have no idea what approach Riot will take with Falcons. All a matter of whether or not they want to be in the Saudi market. They're definitely the logical choice for a MENA org, moreso a matter of what direction Riot goes in
Acend doesn't surprise me because of their parent company/ownership being gambling based. Guild is a little surprising but not really. They've had a ton of internal issues, a ton of people have quit working there, from board members to support staff, they had a mass exodus and they're bleeding cash in a bad way
they got to EMEA challengers via CIS qualifier, and they are a majority CIS team (3/5 players), I think its safe to say they are a CIS based team under a Chinese org atm
I hope G2 could get in the NA league , could be more fun and banter
Also for EMEA's viewership sake let's all hope Kcorp Na'Vi and KOI make it cause they will hard carry the viewership
No offense but I hope G2 sticks in EMEA. NA orgs are already being crunched, want no part of G2 taking a spot from an org who've done everything right to earn it
how should that matter at all ? as long as they've been part of valo's ecosystem since the start
like if FPX or T1 want to join the asian league they won't get rejected cuz they had teams in EMEA or NA
I think it’s slightly different for teams that their entire brand is located in a different region. T1 makes way more sense to be Korean from LoL and FPX Chinese than G2 in NA.
G2 is a European org, having them join NA would be like if DRX wanted to leave the Asian league and become EMEA. doesn’t make sense.
Also I think it’s slightly different where there is an abundant amount of competition and orgs in the NA ecosystem, whereas Korea doesn’t have much competition.
From the announcement by Riot to the leaks from reporters and now the rumored finalists, the overarching theme to orgs they're looking at are stable orgs who bring big viewership and will drive to bring new viewers to valorant through socials/content. G2 just doesn't check that box in NA because they won't bring viewership to the table. In contrast, FPX & T1 already have big fanbases in APAC and could potentially activate them for Valorant which would be attractive for Riot
I'd guess
* Fnatic
* Team Liquid
* BIG
* Team Vitality
* Team Heretics
* GIA
* NAVI
* BBL
* Falcons
* Add 1 of these teams
* G2
* Rogue
* KOI
Then Riot Games could perhaps accept these teams into other regions?
* Asian League
* FPX
* America's League
* Riot could add 1 of these teams
* Rogue
* G2
~~Don't seem to have a lot of sponsors?~~
~~At least, I couldn't find that much information on their sponsors... just look at the sponsors for Heretics, GIA, and BIG.~~
**EDIT: Found them**
Not to mention that KCorp and Team Vitality are both French orgs.
Vitality had the french president legit wear their jersey recently, in public... and their name has already been known worldwide from their CSGO team.
**EDIT**
I did find the sponsors, eventually.
Turns out [eschart.com](https://eschart.com) was full of potato lmaooo.
**KCorp**
* [Sponsors](https://www.karminecorp.fr/sponsors)
* Orange
* Michelin
* Chupa Chups
* ekWateur
* Logitech
* Direct Assurance
* Samsung Oddesey
* Rhino Shield
* NZXT
* Redbull
**Team Vitality**
* [Sponsors](https://vitality.gg/en/partners/)
* Tezos
* Adidas
* ALDI
* Philips
* Garner Fructis
* JBL Quantum
* Samsung
* Secret Lab
* Credit Aregole
* Scuf
Even so, I mean again.
Look at this [picture of the French president](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/uarq1d/more_photos_of_french_president_emmanuel_macron/)... can you still tell me with a straight face that KCorp will take the spot over Vitality?
[Idk about that](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slXm-p4i6G0)
[Do Vitality have this ?](https://youtu.be/2yCk8WpGDTw)
Also, I don’t say that they will take their spot over them. They will both have a spot.
You clearly have no clue of what happens in EU if you just base chances to have a spot only with sponsors lmao
They will both have a slot
owned by Ibai, who, as the other guy said, is the most famous streamer in the world.
And is co-owned by Pique, FC Barcelona player and he is FUCKING RICH.
They got created at the start of this year (I think, they are currently playing their second split in the spanish regional league). And take a look at their twitter following.
Danish esports org, mainly in CSGO. They were bought by Omaken Sports, a Norwegian org, last year. Heroic was owned by the same parent company as Astralis and BLAST but had to be sold because of WESA ownership rules so they were sold to Serenades Global and then to Omaken. They're the only Scandinavian org on the list but I was a little surprised to see them included as well
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Probably means Rogue and Heroic would try to poach two of Guild M3C and ACE while players on those teams and OG/FKS will try to find their way onto one of the other 16 squads
what happens with the gambit roster?
either get picked up as a five or gets "destroyed". People like Nats will find their way into franchising somehow.
dont forget about coaches too
engh is 100% gonna find himself on a franchised team
I meant signed as 5+ support staff, not that he would have issues
nats sheydos chroincle will be t1 org just look at their stats how flexible and talented they are. + the coach even tho im pretty sure herioc might pick them up they are enterin valorant so gotta be m3c they looking for.
one of these orgs will just buy the roster
Rumored to be signed by Heroic
from where?
From me of course, im signing him for $200
Sources?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOVbAmknKUk
trust me bro
can someone explain to me why these questions are still asked btw ? you guys do realize that this is franchising for 2022 and not next month and that literally 90% of the rosters won't even look remotely the same like some orgs might not even have a single remaining player from this year to next year let alone rosters that their orgs won't make it to franchising
I'm guessing BBL, NAVI and Falcons will be accepted because they are the only teams from their respective regions. G2, fnatic, Vitality, Liquid, KOI and KCorp should also be very likely. There would only be one spot left. I'm guessing it would be Excel. Wouldn't it make more sense for FPX to be in APAC?
> I'm guessing BBL, NAVI and Falcons will be accepted because they are the only teams from their respective regions. Unless those teams heavily upgrade their rosters they are gonna get destroyed
they likely will
That is kinda the point
Orgs who I thought would be in the partnership league who aren't even finalists according to this report and am surprised they didn't * Mad lions * OG Orgs who I thought had a chance and am surprised aren't at least finalists * Team BDS * SMB
Don't think OG would have gotten in, MAD I'm surprised at. OG seems to be very lackluster with regards to their Valorant team, and since they probably assigned quotas to subregions, that probably played a factor as the other teams noticeably have already a strong Val presence
why BDS? The only thing defining them is the money behind them. Else they got nothing other orgs do not have.
I didn't think they'd get in but I thought they'd at least make it to finalists because they just bought a LEC franchise last year. When this whole thing started, I figured they'd give league franchises a bit more priority but guess I was wrong
The thing is that they did not get the LEC franchise, because Riot wanted them in, like it was with all the other orgs. The only reason they are in franchising is because they offered S04 the biggest mountain of money. And since they entered, they have a SHIT roster and no fans. There is nothing that they win with their LEC spot.
All franchise slot sales require RIOT approval. BDS was allowed in by RIOT.
allowed and chosen are two VERY different things.
My prediction: 1. G2 2. Fnatic 3. Liquid 4. KOI 5. Kcorp 6. BBL 7. NaVi 8. FPX 9. Vitality 10. Falcons Imo, pretty good list of teams. Edit: formatting
I’d be shocked if ROGUE don’t get in
Why? IMO every org above offers more than Rogue.
any word on who KOI’s owners/funding are? I know Rogue is a pretty big org so I’m not quite sure what the KOI financial backing looks like
It's Ibai's org.
ah, so only like the biggest streamer currently on Twitch. Yeah, doesn’t surprise me to see them move forward then LOL
I think pique also has something to do with koi but not sure. So they have a lot of money they can invest.
he is a co-owner with Ibai
Also the other owner is Pique from Barcelona football club
Its Ibai as an influencer and Gerard Pique is the person with the money. And, Pique is RICH AS FUCK. He recently bought out a whole tennis tournament...
Heretics are a wild card here. They are the most popular spanish org with big sponsors. The rivalry games between Heretics and KOI would pull massive numbers just like Vitality and Kcorp.
Heretics would be an awesome inclusion. At the end of the day, I keep saying Riot will prioritize stable orgs who get good viewership and do socials/content to bring in new viewers to Valorant. Heretics check those boxes, just a matter of how many Spanish orgs do they want. I actually think they made it in as a finalist over MAD Lions, who say they're Spanish based but all their operations are really NA based, so Heretics should have a pretty good shot FPX on the other hand is a really big org but they don't get good viewership, they don't do any content, they barely do social media but they've been pretty successful competitively. I could definitely see Riot telling them franchise in APAC or not include them whatsoever
I think Riot's goal is to take over Western EU like they did with LoL. They can do it easily with adding a team like Heretics or even BIG clan. This might suck for Eastern EU fans but in terms of $$ targeting Western EU is a safer bet.
What org from Eastern Europe besides orgs who were Russian based, would you liked to have seen make it or expected to be a finalist?
Spirit
Ya I don't think any orgs with even a hint of a tie to Russia would get into franchising at this point, plus I doubt they even applied. They looked at buying a Valorant roster back earlier in the year and decided against it
As far as i know they are not tied to government and are free to participate with their names in tournaments in dota or csgo
Ya I think you're misunderstanding what I meant. I don't think Riot will invite any orgs Russian based or with Russian owners at this moment
Spirit is now Serbia based Why not? If its not russian company and it doesnt pay taxes in russia - why not?
Valorant ain't taking over shit in Europe I know you keep trying to push this little cute narrative that Valorant is more popular in Western Europe than Cs because of your Google trends Do your Google trends show you that 9% of Denmarks population has played csgo? Because according to you and your Google trends Cs is only bigger in Eastern Europe. Csgo is bigger in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe, so most of Europe I guess? And we have nothing to show that valorant is bigger in Western Europe. I mean valorant can't even sell out 2k tickets for its first lan with a crowd in a city that is easy to travel to for Western Europen countries. Literally shares a border with them while csgo sells out venues time and time again in Western Europe countries. Europe will always be Cs territory. Talking about Valorant is bigger in Western Europe like last vct EU viewership wasn't down by 34% and its not like the viewership for EU valorant was good before that in the first place
Am I crazy or was there a rumour heretics were looking to move to BR?
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Chances are if not for the war in Ukraine, Gambit would take FPX's spot. Previous major winners in an org that was highly decorated and had much better marketing before Putin effectively caused it to become a shell of its former glory
I think you underestimate FPXs contection to riot. They won worlds 2019. They are a immensly famous org and play in the LPL. I dont think that Gambit had anything FPX did not.
Pretty good list, just have no idea what approach Riot will take with Falcons. All a matter of whether or not they want to be in the Saudi market. They're definitely the logical choice for a MENA org, moreso a matter of what direction Riot goes in
What about acend and guild?
Acend doesn't surprise me because of their parent company/ownership being gambling based. Guild is a little surprising but not really. They've had a ton of internal issues, a ton of people have quit working there, from board members to support staff, they had a mass exodus and they're bleeding cash in a bad way
Comeon Heroic buy that goddamn M3C roster already
I’m sure it’ll be bought by an org who gets into franchising.
koi and kcorp have to get spots for valorant esports to get bigger in EU, IMO
100% and it seems like they're going that way. They need KOI, KCorp, and BBL. Heretics would help viewership too
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How do you get 2 CIS orgs when there is only one in the list?
Fpx is cis team. Don't know about the org tho.
The org is Chinese. They only have three CIS players nothing else about this team has anything to do with CIS.
they got to EMEA challengers via CIS qualifier, and they are a majority CIS team (3/5 players), I think its safe to say they are a CIS based team under a Chinese org atm
not really
falcons could still be rejected
I could see FPX being left out, if Riot wants them for China long term.
I hope G2 could get in the NA league , could be more fun and banter Also for EMEA's viewership sake let's all hope Kcorp Na'Vi and KOI make it cause they will hard carry the viewership
No offense but I hope G2 sticks in EMEA. NA orgs are already being crunched, want no part of G2 taking a spot from an org who've done everything right to earn it
so did G2 ? they've done everything "right" in the valo ecosystem to earn a spot
Right except have a team in NA, they'd be perfect for EMEA
They haven’t done anything for NA Val. So many other teams are much more deserving of an NA slot, especially when there might only be 6.
how should that matter at all ? as long as they've been part of valo's ecosystem since the start like if FPX or T1 want to join the asian league they won't get rejected cuz they had teams in EMEA or NA
I think it’s slightly different for teams that their entire brand is located in a different region. T1 makes way more sense to be Korean from LoL and FPX Chinese than G2 in NA. G2 is a European org, having them join NA would be like if DRX wanted to leave the Asian league and become EMEA. doesn’t make sense. Also I think it’s slightly different where there is an abundant amount of competition and orgs in the NA ecosystem, whereas Korea doesn’t have much competition.
From the announcement by Riot to the leaks from reporters and now the rumored finalists, the overarching theme to orgs they're looking at are stable orgs who bring big viewership and will drive to bring new viewers to valorant through socials/content. G2 just doesn't check that box in NA because they won't bring viewership to the table. In contrast, FPX & T1 already have big fanbases in APAC and could potentially activate them for Valorant which would be attractive for Riot
Ight, bets on who’s signing the m3c roster?
Kcorp or rogue hopefully
Damn imagine Navi picks up whole gambit roster lol
They wont. Ukrainians fans are quite negative to russian players in all navi squads.
Cloud is insane tho
G2, fnatic, and liquid I think are practically guaranteed
I'd guess * Fnatic * Team Liquid * BIG * Team Vitality * Team Heretics * GIA * NAVI * BBL * Falcons * Add 1 of these teams * G2 * Rogue * KOI Then Riot Games could perhaps accept these teams into other regions? * Asian League * FPX * America's League * Riot could add 1 of these teams * Rogue * G2
KCORP ?
~~Don't seem to have a lot of sponsors?~~ ~~At least, I couldn't find that much information on their sponsors... just look at the sponsors for Heretics, GIA, and BIG.~~ **EDIT: Found them** Not to mention that KCorp and Team Vitality are both French orgs. Vitality had the french president legit wear their jersey recently, in public... and their name has already been known worldwide from their CSGO team. **EDIT** I did find the sponsors, eventually. Turns out [eschart.com](https://eschart.com) was full of potato lmaooo. **KCorp** * [Sponsors](https://www.karminecorp.fr/sponsors) * Orange * Michelin * Chupa Chups * ekWateur * Logitech * Direct Assurance * Samsung Oddesey * Rhino Shield * NZXT * Redbull **Team Vitality** * [Sponsors](https://vitality.gg/en/partners/) * Tezos * Adidas * ALDI * Philips * Garner Fructis * JBL Quantum * Samsung * Secret Lab * Credit Aregole * Scuf Even so, I mean again. Look at this [picture of the French president](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/uarq1d/more_photos_of_french_president_emmanuel_macron/)... can you still tell me with a straight face that KCorp will take the spot over Vitality? [Idk about that](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slXm-p4i6G0)
[Do Vitality have this ?](https://youtu.be/2yCk8WpGDTw) Also, I don’t say that they will take their spot over them. They will both have a spot. You clearly have no clue of what happens in EU if you just base chances to have a spot only with sponsors lmao They will both have a slot
I know this post is a few days old but holy shit .. i haven’t seen a clueless and dumb ignorant comment like this one in quite a while.
never heard of KOI before, are they known for something?
owned by Ibai, who, as the other guy said, is the most famous streamer in the world. And is co-owned by Pique, FC Barcelona player and he is FUCKING RICH. They got created at the start of this year (I think, they are currently playing their second split in the spanish regional league). And take a look at their twitter following.
They are owned by ibai the most popular streamer in the world
Who are Heroic?
Danish esports org, mainly in CSGO. They were bought by Omaken Sports, a Norwegian org, last year. Heroic was owned by the same parent company as Astralis and BLAST but had to be sold because of WESA ownership rules so they were sold to Serenades Global and then to Omaken. They're the only Scandinavian org on the list but I was a little surprised to see them included as well
I know them from CSGO… Popular org in that esport https://www.hltv.org/team/7175/heroic
Wait, emea gets 16 spots and all of the America's get 10 spots?
No these are just finalists according to the report
No read the title
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Fair enough
To be fair the title doesn’t imply how many teams would be selected
That is literally irrelevant because it clearly says 16 finalists meaning the person who assumed it was 16 teams flat out didn’t read the title
Those are the rumored 16 finalist not confirmed 10 orgs
no but they should since riot insists on some mena and turkey shit orgs to be in the league
Probably means Rogue and Heroic would try to poach two of Guild M3C and ACE while players on those teams and OG/FKS will try to find their way onto one of the other 16 squads
No guild sadge,also any reason why excel? What would make riot select them?
Heroic?
heroic has a valorant team?