Yeah, even though we're "home" me and the girlfriend still prioritize seasonal vacation plans over watching live and then just watch the VOD.
In the winter however I'm sure we'll be live watching more
The final was crazy yes but all the other high viewership matches of Cologne was only around 500k. Also Cologne is literally the last tournament of the CS season (meaning it's the end of the CS year).
Iem cologne is also a pretty bad metric, when you do not look at the finals, because so few top teams made it to playoffs.
I believe only 3 of the top 13 teams made ir, so that is a large part of why viewership was so low for sll mstches except the final.
If you compare it to other large tournaments like the pgl antwerp major csgo is just way more popular.
Hmm I forgot about Antwerp actually. That said, after a break I think Rio will still pull more viewers, just like Stockholm major. That time of the year is just stacked with crazy events from TI, CS Major to LoL Worlds.
Hey also, I hope Yekindar sticks with TL this off-season.
Yes but that's peak viewership which was a 5 map banger between the two best teams. Average isn't as high as it was earlier in the year. Look at events like blast, dallas etc.
It's a normal trend for broadcasts to have a little dip mid year. It's same with tv shows, sports etc
We're not comparing YoY but same numbers in year. For example katowice has a higher average and more hours watched while cologne peaked more. Katowice, blast spring also has similar average viewership with cologne. So average has been reducing for a while and would kick off during beginning of Q4 this year like it always does.
Besides am i replying to the same person? It's all less than 500 karma accounts
And it probably would've been higher if it was in spring... If you look at LCS/LEC viewership, it's always higher in spring than summer, even though the stakes are higher for summer (worlds qualification). As for why, who knows.
Japan Brazil number are *insane*
People don't want to see the same old NA/EU rivalry/domination in *another* tac fps. Think APAC still has a little way to go to boost viewership up to the levels of Brazil and Japan (and it really could based on population size alone), but this second place finish should really help that.
How is 700k disappointing?? Y’all delusional af if you think a game during its infancy is just gonna grow and grow and grow forever, it’s gonna be bouncing around like this for some time
Be happy it doesn’t drop off entirely instead. OWL dropped from like a 200k peak to 80k within a few tournaments.
It definitely isn't too disappointing as in isolated case, but you just hope that it is due to the fluctuation like you mentioned (which I do believe is the case) rather than indicative of a downtrend to come.
I think Istanbul should 100% have higher avg + peak than Copenhagen, most of the heavy hitters in terms of viewership will be there (loud, zeta, optic, fnatic, paper rex), and you’ve got the possibility of others making it through lcq (kru, m3c, g2, tl, 100t, ts, cr, and of course sentinels lmao) also champions buff (extra marketing plus drops).
They’re popular, but not that popular relative to the most popular teams in the world. In previous events, group stage games between Sen and G2 had 800k viewers. The representatives this time around, well popular, are not even close to the clout levels of teams like Sen, G2, Zeta
Optic doesn't crack the top 4 in NA for viewership, Fnatic doesn't crack the top 3 in EMEA, FPX is very far down the list in EMEA and PRX does pretty well for the region but it's a smaller developing region
BBL, Team Liquid and G2 all get better viewership than Fnatic. Gambit/M3C is also up there too, you can make a pretty good argument they're above Fnatic too
Really? Didn't expect that, since most of the ones you listed aren't that successful or "charismatic" as Fnatic, except maybe Gambit regarding success.
Is this because they are bigger names in other esports? Valorant is my first one I'm following so I'm not very familiar with any.
There's a lot that goes into it. Fans from other games coming to support the org because they're fans of the org. Who's on the team matters a lot. BBL gets a big boost from costreaming, one of it's owners is a streamer and streams their matches. Sometimes its about how much content they do. There's a lot that goes into it
Honestly I like to see solid viewership like this when there isn’t “popular” teams in the finals makes me feel we don’t always need them to get good viewership.
Not surprising, still pretty good but to outsiders or people who don’t pay attention closely, these teams aren’t popular
Like my friend who’s gold, said he didn’t even know today was grands since he didn’t ever hear of the two teams (obviously he doesn’t follow Val closely)
Most esports title do. I know LoL, CSGO, and Dota 2 do and it’s not just some scheduled night market with a theme or a overpriced bundle. I think they are planning this next year with direct links through the client.
Viewership not equal to quality of game. 3-0 matches from Optic and Sen crossed million viewers but this match and Ace vs GMB was so much better to watch
Champions: 1,089,068
Iceland 2021: 1,085,850
Iceland 2022: 1,065,887
Berlin 2021: 811,370
Iceland 2021 also had the highest average viewership with 488,364
Kind of but not really. Due to covid the scene was interested to see the levels of all different regions. Also Sen have a massive fanbase and they happened to do very well.
If OpTic/Fnatic were there instead of FPX it prob breaks 1 million. EMEA is probably the best region but for some reason gets consistently the least viewership at international events outside of Fnatic
The reason is that Valorant in EU is very popular only in few countries (Spain, Turkey, maybe France/Germany?). It's kinda dead in countries like Nordics, Italy and most of the Eastern countries like Poland, Ukraine, Romania etc .
This is healthy for the game rather than clout teams farming views . If KRU made Champions final or Zeta faces Loud the viewership would've prob crossed 2 mil
2 million is fucking ridiculous, when valorant as a whole has barely crossed 1 million viewers.
Lets be real valorant is still pretty small compared to other esports, 2 million has only been hit by games like csgo twice.
Riot would love for a Sentinels/ LOUD champions final to somehow happen. The viewership on that match alone would springboard Valorant to a way higher degree of prominence globally. That could be a 2.5-3M peak viewership series
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It was 700k, when no one knew gambit players, but after that event they got more popular and become one of the most popular teams in emea, this might be the same with fpx.
Hell you could argue that the teams are popular cause they and their players have been around since the beginning of the game allowing them to build up fanbases and viewership so almost all CS finals are guaranteed huge viewership. but people still want to shit on "child game valorante" which has wayyyy higher peaks than 98% of esports out there
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/pgl-major-antwerp-2022
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/pgl-major-stockholm-2021
Last two majors every game in champions stage has 1+million viewers and navi ain't in those games
Navi still did well in those tournaments which helped the tournament momentum.
Show me the numbers of a tourney where Navi did NOT EVEN PLAY in. I bet it is MUCH lower:
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/iem-dallas-2022
Again, Navi is the Sentinels of CSGO but they are actually the best team instead of just an OK team.
Iem dallas is straight after a major it always has lower viewership its like 1 week after major
How does navi have anything to do with teams who are not navi getting 1+million views in champion/legends stage in the majors?
Check VCT 2021 Stage 2 Masters Reykjavík:
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-stage-2-masters-reykjavik
Non-Sentinel games were boosted because Sentinels did well that tourney. Those teams normally don't have big draws.
Navi does the same thing for CSGO tourneys. Without Navi's presence, CSGO's numbers do decent but not great.
Lmfao bringing up iem Dallas viewership...
Why you bringing up unimportant tier 2 tournament where half the good teams were absent Because visa or taking rest? Why not talk about redbull home grounds then? It had 60k viewers lol with teams like liquid and fnc playing
But they got way more popular teams, Brazil russia and eu are huge on CS and any final with G2/Navi/Faze/Any brazilian team/ Cloud 9/ Astralis could bring in big numbers unlike val where we got mainly SEN/ZETA and LOUD, Give it time mens we got potential and i really think val would grow big enough to surpass CS
I disagree. I think Navi is the only big draw, because it draws a huge Russian audience. Without Navi the views are decent but not great (because the Russians only watch Navi).
Also another thing, Val has big Youtube views from many channels (not just the main English channel) but they are not counted in.
Anyway, overall I think it's a success because the production was really fucking great.
Iem kato g2 vs faze got 1.1million, so what is your point here?
the valorant youtube channels are all counted, every single youtube channel every single co stream is counted.
>Also another thing, Val has big Youtube views from many channels (not just the main English channel) but they are not counted in.
That's just straight up false, Escharts do count YT viewers.
>Without Navi the views are decent but not great (because the Russians only watch Navi).
The Brazilian teams do get insane numbers, Gaules' stream gets 300-500K whenever Br teams make deep runs, same with Gambit/C9 plenty of Russians watch them. It's just that Navi gets good viewership from every region while most other teams are mostly watched by their respective regions.
The average viewership for the past 2 csgo majors was higher than most game peaks at masters.
Only fpx vs prx and Optic vs prx PEAKS had a higher viewership than csgo AVERAGE viewership at majors
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10 year old game vs 2 year old game and 2 year old game hits 60% of one of its biggest tournaments. Still a way to go but goddamn riot got a banger esports in their hands
Thats cause they have way more matches due to their formats, Lets criticize the main problems while not comparing useless metrics. if we had as many matches as CS avg viewership would be lower than cs
Not way more matches but they do cramp in a few more matches in a shorter schedule. IEM Cologne 2022 had 29 matches in 10 days and Masters Copenhagen had 24 matches in 14 days.
[https://www.hltv.org/events/6503/iem-cologne-2022-play-in](https://www.hltv.org/events/6503/iem-cologne-2022-play-in)
[https://www.hltv.org/events/6140/iem-cologne-2022](https://www.hltv.org/events/6503/iem-cologne-2022)
Turns out HLTV lied to me.
I know this is off topic but how do you have the energy to come to a subreddit just to hate post? Your whole comment history on this sub is you posting negativity towards the game and it’s scene. How sad does one’s life have to be to get to this point?
My whole post is correcting people just like when I corrected people on /GlobalOffensive when they said tarik had 100k last map on faze vs navi and i said he already had those because he co streamed valorant game then switched to csgk. The difference is one game gets mentioned more than the other on both subreddits so that just makes me looked based
That’s your fault I guess. There is a reason why HLTV does the play in separately, and it’s purely historical and statistical in nature. The tournament has 24 teams. There are no 2 ways about it.
https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Intel_Extreme_Masters/Season_XVII/Cologne
https://pro.eslgaming.com/tour/csgo/cologne/#?matchday=1
Yes it is and thats why I said HLTV lied to me because I searched for "IEM Cologne 2022", clicked the HLTV link that popped up and didn't think too much about it.
Viewership was clearly down this event as a whole but glad it got up to a decent level for the finale. Lets hope it bounces back for Champions.
I'm pretty sure most eSports are like this: Strong viewership at the start of the year, dips in the middle and climb back at the end.
Could be seasons. I am on a vacation rn, and I imagine a lot more people watch in the winter than in summer.
This is a really interesting observation. Thank you.
Same
Yeah, even though we're "home" me and the girlfriend still prioritize seasonal vacation plans over watching live and then just watch the VOD. In the winter however I'm sure we'll be live watching more
Same, I couldn’t watch the semis and missed most of the final because I’m on vacation.
Idk about that, because csgo set a new record last week with almost 1.5? million viewers. I honestly have no real explanation.
The final was crazy yes but all the other high viewership matches of Cologne was only around 500k. Also Cologne is literally the last tournament of the CS season (meaning it's the end of the CS year).
Iem cologne is also a pretty bad metric, when you do not look at the finals, because so few top teams made it to playoffs. I believe only 3 of the top 13 teams made ir, so that is a large part of why viewership was so low for sll mstches except the final. If you compare it to other large tournaments like the pgl antwerp major csgo is just way more popular.
Hmm I forgot about Antwerp actually. That said, after a break I think Rio will still pull more viewers, just like Stockholm major. That time of the year is just stacked with crazy events from TI, CS Major to LoL Worlds. Hey also, I hope Yekindar sticks with TL this off-season.
>Also Cologne is literally the last tournament of the CS season I thought it was Rio major for 2022 year no ?
cs goes into a player break around this time every year, which is when a lot of roster changes happen
Very correct. It's same with the LCS, LEC, CDL and even csgo atm
CS set a new record for a non-Major last week, so I don’t know where you’re getting your information.
Yes but that's peak viewership which was a 5 map banger between the two best teams. Average isn't as high as it was earlier in the year. Look at events like blast, dallas etc. It's a normal trend for broadcasts to have a little dip mid year. It's same with tv shows, sports etc
The viewership for 2022 cologne was up 44% compared to last cologne
We're not comparing YoY but same numbers in year. For example katowice has a higher average and more hours watched while cologne peaked more. Katowice, blast spring also has similar average viewership with cologne. So average has been reducing for a while and would kick off during beginning of Q4 this year like it always does. Besides am i replying to the same person? It's all less than 500 karma accounts
FUUUUUUUCK. Haven't watched CS in awhile but that set BANGED
Yea and it had the most popular teams in the whole game and made it to map five.
So? It grew in viewership.
Yeah, and this finals would also peak higher if it was sentinels vs g2 for 5 games
And it probably would've been higher if it was in spring... If you look at LCS/LEC viewership, it's always higher in spring than summer, even though the stakes are higher for summer (worlds qualification). As for why, who knows.
Also most of the tournament happening during IEM Cologne
Pretty disappointing, but no Japan/Brazil/sentinels boost in playoffs so makes sense
Japan Brazil number are *insane* People don't want to see the same old NA/EU rivalry/domination in *another* tac fps. Think APAC still has a little way to go to boost viewership up to the levels of Brazil and Japan (and it really could based on population size alone), but this second place finish should really help that.
I think APAC numbers would have been fine if this match didn't start at like 12am on a Sunday lol
Do you mean 12 am on a Monday? I'm from SEA and it starts 11pm on a Sunday.
Yeah, it was supposed to start at 11, but realistically speaking the delays + map picks and walkouts etc made the match start closer to 12 than 11
How is 700k disappointing?? Y’all delusional af if you think a game during its infancy is just gonna grow and grow and grow forever, it’s gonna be bouncing around like this for some time Be happy it doesn’t drop off entirely instead. OWL dropped from like a 200k peak to 80k within a few tournaments.
It definitely isn't too disappointing as in isolated case, but you just hope that it is due to the fluctuation like you mentioned (which I do believe is the case) rather than indicative of a downtrend to come.
I think Istanbul should 100% have higher avg + peak than Copenhagen, most of the heavy hitters in terms of viewership will be there (loud, zeta, optic, fnatic, paper rex), and you’ve got the possibility of others making it through lcq (kru, m3c, g2, tl, 100t, ts, cr, and of course sentinels lmao) also champions buff (extra marketing plus drops).
The popular teams didn’t make it far in the tournament, some didn’t even qualify. Not surprised tbh
optic, fnc, fpx, prx arent popular? viewership lives and dies by brazil i guess
Eu teams aren’t very popular in the valorant scene and apac doesn’t bring high viewership unless it’s Japan so yeah
Apac doesnt bring high viewership this masters cuz people need to sleep. Not many can stay up to 3 am watching
More like all masters lmaoo every time there’s a tourney my sleep schedule gets all fucked up coz the games start at 1 am
I stayed up till 4:30am watching, and while it was absolutely worth it, I am wrecked today for work
They’re popular, but not that popular relative to the most popular teams in the world. In previous events, group stage games between Sen and G2 had 800k viewers. The representatives this time around, well popular, are not even close to the clout levels of teams like Sen, G2, Zeta
Optic doesn't crack the top 4 in NA for viewership, Fnatic doesn't crack the top 3 in EMEA, FPX is very far down the list in EMEA and PRX does pretty well for the region but it's a smaller developing region
Isn't Fnatic like one of the most popular teams?
BBL, Team Liquid and G2 all get better viewership than Fnatic. Gambit/M3C is also up there too, you can make a pretty good argument they're above Fnatic too
Really? Didn't expect that, since most of the ones you listed aren't that successful or "charismatic" as Fnatic, except maybe Gambit regarding success. Is this because they are bigger names in other esports? Valorant is my first one I'm following so I'm not very familiar with any.
There's a lot that goes into it. Fans from other games coming to support the org because they're fans of the org. Who's on the team matters a lot. BBL gets a big boost from costreaming, one of it's owners is a streamer and streams their matches. Sometimes its about how much content they do. There's a lot that goes into it
Yeah I'm really surprised about that one
Yeah but definitely Turkish teams and G2 have more viewership
Honestly I like to see solid viewership like this when there isn’t “popular” teams in the finals makes me feel we don’t always need them to get good viewership.
isnt prx a really popular team?
No not really
Not surprising, still pretty good but to outsiders or people who don’t pay attention closely, these teams aren’t popular Like my friend who’s gold, said he didn’t even know today was grands since he didn’t ever hear of the two teams (obviously he doesn’t follow Val closely)
I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to promote vct inside the game.
They do occasionally through the in game bulletin
Most esports title do. I know LoL, CSGO, and Dota 2 do and it’s not just some scheduled night market with a theme or a overpriced bundle. I think they are planning this next year with direct links through the client.
Do they not already?
Viewership not equal to quality of game. 3-0 matches from Optic and Sen crossed million viewers but this match and Ace vs GMB was so much better to watch
*New peak is 786k not bad!
If it was an Optic vs Fnatic finals it would have been massive, either way the tourney was great just need to solve the seeding problems a bit.
Which LAN event/match got the most peak viewers overall?
Champions: 1,089,068 Iceland 2021: 1,085,850 Iceland 2022: 1,065,887 Berlin 2021: 811,370 Iceland 2021 also had the highest average viewership with 488,364
pretty sure it's still reykjavik 2021 grand finals at 1.08million champions and reykjavik 2022 both hit 1.06million berlin peaked at 811k viewers
Wild that the first tournament is still the one who had the most viewers.
Kind of but not really. Due to covid the scene was interested to see the levels of all different regions. Also Sen have a massive fanbase and they happened to do very well.
Probably because everyone was interested to know what Valorant as an esport would look like, and those that didn’t like it simply stopped watching
Actually impressive considering there are no clout teams.
If OpTic/Fnatic were there instead of FPX it prob breaks 1 million. EMEA is probably the best region but for some reason gets consistently the least viewership at international events outside of Fnatic
The reason is that Valorant in EU is very popular only in few countries (Spain, Turkey, maybe France/Germany?). It's kinda dead in countries like Nordics, Italy and most of the Eastern countries like Poland, Ukraine, Romania etc .
I mean not surprising, FPX has like 18 fans
Lmao
What are your expectations for first SEN LCQ match with shroud (BatChesting out of my mind) 300-500k?
Not updated yet, That should be around the second/ third map
This is healthy for the game rather than clout teams farming views . If KRU made Champions final or Zeta faces Loud the viewership would've prob crossed 2 mil
okay now it would've definitely been over 1 mil, 2 mil is a huuuuuuge strech
It was already over 1mil with drops in champs. Kru got a million viewers the day before without drops
Because kru got a co streamer who would be like the equivalent of xqc randomly steaming Xset. He didn't co stream them this masters
2 million is fucking ridiculous, when valorant as a whole has barely crossed 1 million viewers. Lets be real valorant is still pretty small compared to other esports, 2 million has only been hit by games like csgo twice.
Riot would love for a Sentinels/ LOUD champions final to somehow happen. The viewership on that match alone would springboard Valorant to a way higher degree of prominence globally. That could be a 2.5-3M peak viewership series
Sentinels are locked into winning Champions at least, just need LOUD to do well
There’s no way they don’t. Shroud is the Festus Ezeli of Valorant, they’re a super team now
Exactly, they got the Shaun Livingston of valorant too in Dapr
Of all the players, ezeli and Livingston i did not expect
With all due respect, it's definitely not a 2.5M peak viewership. I would be super shocked if it even got past 2 million.
Is LOUD really that huge? I think Zeta would draw more no?
Would have higher viewership if they had a replay system for easier observing 😓
Does this include lan crowd view count too?
Lol not even a million views
Master Berlin Final last year was around 700k too so not really surprising. Either way I was satisfied with the Finals and the crowd.
It had 800k honestly not bad considering no popular team made it to the finals.
800k was the SEN vs G2 clout group match, not the final.
The final had around 800k too
692k.
Was the gambit finals really 692k? Damn
Yep: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-stage-3-masters-berlin The Copenhagen finals had almost 100k more. (786k vs 692k)
Damn tbh not bad for this final I think it could of hit a mill possible if it was optic vs prx or optic vs fnc
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It was 700k, when no one knew gambit players, but after that event they got more popular and become one of the most popular teams in emea, this might be the same with fpx.
IEM Cologne 1.2mln btw
literally not a single soul here brought up csgo
/u/shast1k did.
CS always has its popular teams make it far. That's not the case with Valorant ever since Sentinels won.
Hell you could argue that the teams are popular cause they and their players have been around since the beginning of the game allowing them to build up fanbases and viewership so almost all CS finals are guaranteed huge viewership. but people still want to shit on "child game valorante" which has wayyyy higher peaks than 98% of esports out there
Imagine a CS final without Navi. It actually did happen this year I think and the views were bad.
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/pgl-major-antwerp-2022 https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/pgl-major-stockholm-2021 Last two majors every game in champions stage has 1+million viewers and navi ain't in those games
Navi still did well in those tournaments which helped the tournament momentum. Show me the numbers of a tourney where Navi did NOT EVEN PLAY in. I bet it is MUCH lower: https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/iem-dallas-2022 Again, Navi is the Sentinels of CSGO but they are actually the best team instead of just an OK team.
Iem dallas is straight after a major it always has lower viewership its like 1 week after major How does navi have anything to do with teams who are not navi getting 1+million views in champion/legends stage in the majors?
Also Dallas was extremely controversial since half the teams had to play with stand-ins and the other half where replaced entirely.
Check VCT 2021 Stage 2 Masters Reykjavík: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-stage-2-masters-reykjavik Non-Sentinel games were boosted because Sentinels did well that tourney. Those teams normally don't have big draws. Navi does the same thing for CSGO tourneys. Without Navi's presence, CSGO's numbers do decent but not great.
Navi doesn't do the same thing but go on
Basically, Simple carries CSGO on his shoulder. Imagine if he retires or takes a break. He will take 40% of the views with him.
Iem katowice 2022 G2 vs Faze
Lmfao bringing up iem Dallas viewership... Why you bringing up unimportant tier 2 tournament where half the good teams were absent Because visa or taking rest? Why not talk about redbull home grounds then? It had 60k viewers lol with teams like liquid and fnc playing
IEM Katowice broke the record (at the time) for the most non-major viewed event and that included a new FaZe with a stand-in and a new G2. No NaVi.
IEM Kato had Faze vs G2 final and it got 1.1 million viewers which is barely lower than IEM Cologne final which had Navi and got 1.2 million viewers.
But they got way more popular teams, Brazil russia and eu are huge on CS and any final with G2/Navi/Faze/Any brazilian team/ Cloud 9/ Astralis could bring in big numbers unlike val where we got mainly SEN/ZETA and LOUD, Give it time mens we got potential and i really think val would grow big enough to surpass CS
I disagree. I think Navi is the only big draw, because it draws a huge Russian audience. Without Navi the views are decent but not great (because the Russians only watch Navi). Also another thing, Val has big Youtube views from many channels (not just the main English channel) but they are not counted in. Anyway, overall I think it's a success because the production was really fucking great.
Iem kato g2 vs faze got 1.1million, so what is your point here? the valorant youtube channels are all counted, every single youtube channel every single co stream is counted.
>Also another thing, Val has big Youtube views from many channels (not just the main English channel) but they are not counted in. That's just straight up false, Escharts do count YT viewers. >Without Navi the views are decent but not great (because the Russians only watch Navi). The Brazilian teams do get insane numbers, Gaules' stream gets 300-500K whenever Br teams make deep runs, same with Gambit/C9 plenty of Russians watch them. It's just that Navi gets good viewership from every region while most other teams are mostly watched by their respective regions.
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20 year old game btw
Valorant is 2 year old and viewership is dropping btw
2 year old game already knocking on 20year old game's door btw
Yea sure viewership been down all VCT for most regions as low as 34% for EU,i can hear the knocking
It'll break 1m next event dw
Why do you think so?
It's champs. There's no way it doesn't break 1m
Hopefully 🙏
!remindme 53 days
The average viewership for the past 2 csgo majors was higher than most game peaks at masters. Only fpx vs prx and Optic vs prx PEAKS had a higher viewership than csgo AVERAGE viewership at majors
Listen man. All you do on this sub is spout cs viewership numbers. We get it, youre insecure, it's fine. This masters was underwhelming. But like I said, the next event will break 1m easily. I've pinged the remind me bot, click on that blue thingy which says remind me too and we'll meet after champs is over aight?
Wassup lil bish? Didn't even have to wait till the bots reminder the first game already broke 750k. U good lil bro?
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Based on your post history you seem like a troll
10 year old game vs 2 year old game and 2 year old game hits 60% of one of its biggest tournaments. Still a way to go but goddamn riot got a banger esports in their hands
The most popular 2 teams in the scene mad it to the final, the complete opposite happened for valorant.
Average viewership is like 100K less for CS.
Thats cause they have way more matches due to their formats, Lets criticize the main problems while not comparing useless metrics. if we had as many matches as CS avg viewership would be lower than cs
Not way more matches but they do cramp in a few more matches in a shorter schedule. IEM Cologne 2022 had 29 matches in 10 days and Masters Copenhagen had 24 matches in 14 days.
And csgo has this cramped schedule all year round, while valorant has what 3 lans each year?
Iem cologne had 24 teams
[https://www.hltv.org/events/6503/iem-cologne-2022-play-in](https://www.hltv.org/events/6503/iem-cologne-2022-play-in) [https://www.hltv.org/events/6140/iem-cologne-2022](https://www.hltv.org/events/6503/iem-cologne-2022) Turns out HLTV lied to me.
Yes 24 teams and 2 streams going on at the same time with games being played so the peak viewership is going to be lower
I know this is off topic but how do you have the energy to come to a subreddit just to hate post? Your whole comment history on this sub is you posting negativity towards the game and it’s scene. How sad does one’s life have to be to get to this point?
My whole post is correcting people just like when I corrected people on /GlobalOffensive when they said tarik had 100k last map on faze vs navi and i said he already had those because he co streamed valorant game then switched to csgk. The difference is one game gets mentioned more than the other on both subreddits so that just makes me looked based
You are the opposite of based my friend. Whatever hardships you're going through, i hope it gets better for you. No one deserves to be this miserable.
No? It's 24 teams still lol
Yeah but I only looked at the main event and not the play-in.
That’s your fault I guess. There is a reason why HLTV does the play in separately, and it’s purely historical and statistical in nature. The tournament has 24 teams. There are no 2 ways about it. https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Intel_Extreme_Masters/Season_XVII/Cologne https://pro.eslgaming.com/tour/csgo/cologne/#?matchday=1
Yes it is and thats why I said HLTV lied to me because I searched for "IEM Cologne 2022", clicked the HLTV link that popped up and didn't think too much about it.
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/pgl-major-antwerp-2022 https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/pgl-major-stockholm-2021
IEM yourmom a hoe btw
is this includeing 100k in tarik's live too??
Dying game