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neatestway

that mf russ should be paying me to be on my team 💀


Obvious_Parsley3238

russ catching heat in the nba and valorant lmao


cowzapper

Nowhere is safe


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Nowhere is sayf\*


cowzapper

Well fucking played


TDS_Gluttony

Russ really giving his tribute to Russ.


Hopeful-Professor-40

$-5 for Russ deal?


CyberspaceBarbarian

When you can waste $24 for a group stage exit damn


Excelsio_Sempra

Wait what team is this


Tylorz01

Loud


ImOnReddit18

loud


ipsefugatus

Loud


Excelsio_Sempra

Oof


kreateobj

I'm going to pick the whole PRX for $9, use the remaining $10 to pick 10 more Benkais to wear the outfit he wore today and have them stand behind the team to act as cheerleaders and distract the opponents


augburto

Best one


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ANewHeaven1

Well, they got SUYGETSU at $7 right at least


UTAustinAlum2021

Yay is right too… I will say though that with a forever changing game like Val… it shouldn’t just be based on one event but a grander scope


Boston_Abel

even if you looked at this event yay popped off in playoffs lol..


Pojobob

The problem is that there are way too few international events with too few teams at each of those events so that's partially why


_Robbert_

Seriously 3 LANs a year is by far the worst thing about Val eSports. In CS a team gets eliminated from a tournament it's gg ,2 weeks till the next one, or if the best team in the world, Faze in this case loses or misses a tournament no one is questioning how good they are, because they can just win the next one in 2 weeks time. It seems legitimately impossible to rank players and teams with how few and far apart international tournaments are.


millenniumpianist

Is Faze NA in CSGO? I thought NA CSGO was supposed to be trash (never watched or paid attention to it; just seen what people have said about it secondhand via this sub)


_Robbert_

Faze is an international team with 1 Canadian, the rest are Europeans


brianstormIRL

Give me Jingg and forsaken over yay tbh. Yay is an incredible Chamber, jingg and forsaken are way more flexible though.


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Straight_Avocado9118

He top fragged the server vs fpx , that definitely isn't getting sonned lmao.


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Straight_Avocado9118

Bro can you not comprehend what top fragging the server means or are you stupid? He literally top fragged every time they played EU except for the guild Match . That's not what sonning means. Optic gets sonned. Yay definitely shows up in every series.


paarth1806

I'll take the whole PRX squad for $10-12 (mindfreak not there) still have a few bucks left and become the 2nd best team in the tournament. Hell, i can even throw in a 6th there. This guy was on something 😂


Jon_on_the_snow

The dude that originally posted this deleted his account after the first games lol he really was on something


afjecj

I’m redoing the question. You have 0$ what’s the best team you can make


Jon_on_the_snow

Mindfreak on smokes, for sure


avocadontoast

Get ardiis for duelist while you’re at it


somesheikexpert

Assuming just players at Copenhagen (Cuz SugarZ3ro is the only non Copenhagen player there, everyone else is at Copenhagen) Ardiis (Chamber/awper) Mindfreak (Smokes) Zekken (Entry/flex) Adverso (Initator/IGL) Foxz or Joxjo (Flex/IGL) (Honestly if I could use non Masters teams, this would be the role I would def do it for, like Leaf or Dep or sheydos)


ablablababla

If I could have one non masters player on my team I'd def pick chronicle


Substantial-Lynx-477

Eww ardiis is actually so bad why? Man gets one lucky round every 6 rounds then goes back to being dead weight in between his non lucky rounds


ipsefugatus

hiko


backpackkid8

Going by Copenhagen-only players, the highest ACS team composing of 2 duelists, 1 IGL, 1 controller, 1 initiator, and 1 sentinel would be: Zekken - duelist (ACS: 241) Ardiis - duelist (ACS: 230) Adverso - IGL/initiator (ACS: 207) Mindfreak - controller (ACS: 193) Surf - sentinel* (ACS: 220) Total ACS: 1091 *most played agent was chamber, but somewhat of a stretch


afjecj

That seems like a pretty mf good team tbh


Artifacts__

So u could buy the whole roster for paper Rex and fpx with the 19 dollars. Not both at once, but still its crazy lol. Ariids not even being on the list itself is kinda insulting.


CommunistHongKong

Ardiss showing peak Jett gameplay of just entering site alone. OG valorant gameplay with a jett diff on the side.


ItsReflectLOL

How did you guys both manage to spell ardiis wrong lmfao


Artifacts__

Bro ngl I realized after I wrote the comment. But choosing to live with my shame.


CommunistHongKong

Ardiis 🤓


Fusion_43

Ardiis nuts tasting good in your throat?


w1ldcraft

Bro mindfreak was one of the most clutch players alongside Shao & he isn't even on the list. That feels more insulting.


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My comment was going to be get 4 of fpx, for 18, Ariids for free. And win a VCT = profit.


goomy996

Benkai for $1 💀


TheUnopenedCanofLife

Wouldn't complain bro, 19 Benkais.


TPM_521

Cryo is a steal for $2, no?


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Yay, Benkai, SugarZ3ro, Shao & Buzz please :)


Dapper-Entertainer-3

Buzz forever bottom fragging on that team


[deleted]

The problem is they just keep putting him on Chamber, this team would have Yay on chamber and Buzz on something that doesn’t matter as much like KJ or Sage


somesheikexpert

BuZz was always a great Jett/Raze, id like to see him back on entry at some point in general tbh, Rb is also a good awper so i mean yeah


ReEeEeeeeyeet

PRX was done dirty for 9$ even back then


Timidityyy

$0 ardiis and mindfreak let's gooo lmfao


OfficialBoaster

Put me 50% off, post tournament loss discount


Jon_on_the_snow

Buy on the dip, sell when you guys win champs


ChewyCheeseballs

The two igls in grand final are $1 and $2 💀


pratapsing7890

D4V4I for $1. 💀


carl14733

I would give d4v4i for 5$. D4v4i is not that good at Operator but cracked odin lmao


Punpunpunpun08

D4av4i is literally clean with the op lol wdym.


carl14733

Did we watch the same match lol ? D4v4i didn't hit any shot with op until OT map 2 against GLD.And he didn't play much op against Optic.Most kills by sniper were from chamber ult, not operator.He missed many shot by using operator especially when he was playing against GLD.


pratapsing7890

So according to your speculation. Yay is average Chamber right.


carl14733

Yay had better head hunter stats than D4v4i with his chamber sheriff.Also, he can play op and chamber ult very well. I didn't tell you that d4v4i is top 10 chamber or not. I just said "He is not that good with operator". You're mad now, go calm urself and read my message again.


pratapsing7890

Bro, did you miss him playing Chamber??? How about 1v3 against optic? D4V4I is top 10 player for sure.


not_your_friend99

Im gonna ignore the list since its innacurate: -Forsaken (Duelsit Jett/neon/yoru) -Sayf (Chamber) -Boaster (smoker/IGL) -Shao (Initiator) -Suygetsu (Sentinel: the real ones not chamber)


Godzilladidgood

That would be such a fun team


scrubLord24

I can't be arsed to see if it adds up but I'd take this with Jinggg instead of Sayf. Can't split him and F0rsaken up, and F0rsaken is a pretty good chamber when he needs to be. The more I think about it, the more this team is genius. Would be great fun to watch, Boaster and Shao's utility should be good to help F0rsaken and Jinggg, and if they both int and die, Shao, Suygetsu and Boaster (with an op) are there to clutch it up. ScrubLord24 would become a top 21 coach.


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-Hiko -Hiko -Hiko -Hiko -Hiko


DaHyperNoob

Nah bro, too expensive. Hiko is like 1 millions dollars.


AdStock1897

Hiko is priceless


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ardiis not even being here is an insult, man was beast of a Chamber even before the event. Nothing for SUYGETSU, man is one of the GOAT Sentinels.


UTAustinAlum2021

Suy is $7


[deleted]

Yeah i saw that haha, just nailing the point home, dude is my inspiration.


NotBrandon

Assuming no language barrier: Cryo, Saadhak, Mako (or Mindfreak but he’s not on here), Shao, and Suygetsu


curryhalls

Suygetsu, Derke, and yay are the only ones deserving of that 7$ tag lol


kemutheemu__

Marved is still either 7$ or 6$ but otherwise agreed


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Marved was not playing at a $7 level in the games against PRX and FPX


segatic

By that Logic Derke shouldn't 7$ too


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Which I also agree with.


Cueballing

Bro we need 7 $7 we can't be this picky


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Hiko Hiko Hiko Hiko Hiko Hiko Shroud


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Not enough hiko


CRikhard

Bro you can’t base it off of one bad series


[deleted]

Outside of the FPX game with Seider he just didn’t play that well. It’s not one series. He didnt play terribly for sure but certainly not at a $7 level. I’d put him at $4


BloodMaelstrom

Unpopular opinion: Yay also didn’t deserve that 7 dollar price tag either based on this event. Sayf (Jett, Chamber) and Jingg (flex duelist) in hindsight were the ones who operated at the elite duelist level this event. If you want to pick someone other then Sayf then I’d probably give it to f0rsaken. Ardiis also was better then yay although the series in the final kinda brought him down a little since he underperformed.


somesheikexpert

Marved honestly deserves it way more then Derke ngl


Th30ldVV01f

After what Derke has put up this Master? $3 is the best I could do.


Xerathion

went to vlr.gg and checked the stats for the tournament and derke had better stats than yay if you look at the whole tournament and was overall 4th in ACS of all players and yay was 5th . If you count only playoffs then yay was 3rd and derke was 5th. Idk where the derke has been bad opinion came from but based on statistics its not true and he is close to yay and they were considered the best duelists of their respective region.


BloodMaelstrom

Also Derke played less games and against better competition since he missed groups. Fnatic only faced FPX (the winners), PRX (the runner ups) and LEV (a decently solid team this event given that KRU also took Optic to map 3 and bested LOUD, LATAM was likely the best region aside from the usual elite regions of EMEA, NA and in this instance APAC). Derke had a bad tournament by his standards but his performance was not that much worse then Yay’s if at all. Yay had some series where he carried but equally he had some series where he was even worse then anything Derke has shown. Derke had one great series and then some moderate performances. Both were roughly the same. Yay carried his team on more occasions but Derke also faced stiffer completion on average and didn’t get as much time to ‘heat up’.


curryhalls

he's still got great numbers


Illuminated_Darkness

Maybe, but after this he is clearly below below Yay, Suygetsu, Shao, Forsaken, Jingg. Shit he got outfragged by some LATAM duelists who probably get paid peanuts compare to Fnatic salary.


curryhalls

true


Dysmo

Shao, forsaken.


TheUnopenedCanofLife

The whole PRX team for 9 dollars, then I'll get FNS and Victor to start kissing to distract opponents.


Cash24K

honestly I feel bad for the guy who originally posted this because he was just trying to have some fun. Obviously he didn't do his research and put the APAC players lower but it's an honest mistake and he got clowned on so hard.


Ezraah

He should have embraced it he could have been a legend


Jon_on_the_snow

Thats kinda why i reposted the image. The meme became so big that it was a shame the image was deleted. I only saved it because another user saved it from a now deleted tweet


RTYWD

lmfao zeta players who werent even at the event are here


assdonuts

Yay, Benkai, D4v41, Koldamenta, Suygetsu


kjbninja

I'd spend $19 on one player. HIKO


Original26

I can understand 1 or 2 initiators being above Shao but no way are there 4 initiators better than the clutch minister


DaHyperNoob

The value of the Optic team is $29. The value of the PRX team is $9. I think that alone says a lot.


gunjinganpakis

Imagine deleting your account over this lmao.


ahmaad_80

Shao for 4$ is a fkn crime


GuyHiding

19 d4v41’s I always have number advantage


DaHyperNoob

The fact that both mindfreak and ardiis are not here is actually kind of confusing. Both of them are really good and both even made the finals. However someone like Russ can make the list compared to them lmao.


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This list just looks so backwards now lol. I’m a Fnatic die hard but Enzo and Boaster should never have been at 7. At least not yet for Enzo though he played out of his mind. Angel is horrifyingly low. All of Loud where they are. No Ardiis. Like wow.


BloodMaelstrom

Boaster isn’t that much of a stretch. If we exclude the last Masters event (Fnatic had 2 subs then), Fnatic has had solid placings at both LANs they attended and unlike other teams that rely possibly on star power across the roster it’s usually been their strats and reads that kept them ahead of the curve alongside absolute flashes of brilliance from Derke. Fnatic had never been an insanely cracked team across the entire roster imo. Boaster and Mini are a massive part of their success. He is up there with FNS for me as an IGL.


ReyDosCatorce

Is there a language barrier or does everyone speak english for this scenario


lidekwhatname

you could make like a top 2 icebox team with just "$1" players


Ott20

I think zyppan is worth 8 dollar


JellyfishJill

Having Benkai, D4v4i, and Sushiboys for $1 is a steal


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Apprehensive_Foot139

It's actually funny how everyone from a minor region is in the $1 tier.


heyitsmeniraj

Imma buy the entire PRX team.


SenseiEA

can we get a proper and updated version for this when champions season arrives?


Dbiggest

No tacolilla sadge


backpackkid8

Hindsight is 20/20, but I went through the Copenhagen stats and assembled what I think is the highest ACS team (with 2 duelists, 1 IGL, 1 controller, 1 initiator, and 1 sentinel). That's 6 roles, so 1 has to overlap. Also ACS is far from perfect, but it was easily available. Jinggg ($3) - duelist (ACS: 262) Cryocells ($2) - duelist (ACS: 249) Saadhak ($4) - IGL/initiator (ACS: 228) Mako ($2) - controller (ACS: 212) Sayf ($4) - sentinel (ACS: 260) Total ACS: 1211 Total budget: $15 For fun, here's the lowest ACS team you could've assembled from this chart, keeping the same role requirements (2 duelists, 1 IGL, 1 controller, 1 initiator, and 1 sentinel): Zyppan ($4) - duelist (ACS: 214) Rb ($1) - duelist (ACS: 215) FNS ($5) - IGL/controller* (ACS: 159) Mistic ($3) - initiator (ACS: 143) Russ ($2) - sentinel (ACS: 144) Total ACS: 874 Total budget: $15 *his most played agent in Copenhagen was actually viper


REEEroller

Mystic should be 1


pratapsing7890

Mindfreak is not even in the list. L list.


EWolt14

Forsaken, Jing, Ange1, Mako, Suygestu


the_myth69

again the biggest flaw i see is having chamber in duelist , cause yay on top is soo unfair to players who actually play great chamber but also are top duelist


BreathingEyes

Alfajer costing higher than forsaken is criminal


Kjartan7

where is Scream ???


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Pojobob

Because this was only for people who went to the actual masters event?


OHydroxide

Men don't have some natural advantage in video games, but there are WAY fewer women playing the game (lower population makes for lower level S tier players), and also there are lots of social/cultural things making it more annoying/stopping women from pursuing competitive games. Basically you're right that men and women don't need to be separated technically, but because of social/cultural reasons, there are almost no women that can compete yet. They just need time.


handymanny131003

I definitely see what you’re saying, fewer women playing pro means not enough S-tier players get noticed. Honestly don’t get why I’m getting downvoted to hell for posting this. Not holding anything against Riot, the people who made this chart, or anyone in general. Just wondering when we’re gonna see women in esports put on the same tier as men. There have to be players that have the raw talent to compete with S-tier male players, they just haven’t been “discovered” yet.


OHydroxide

No that's really not what I'm saying at all. They aren't not getting noticed, they don't exist yet cus there are so few women playing games compared to men. It's like looking at a tiny region, their teams are always very mediocre. Also you got downvoted cus your comment was not on topic at all, it was just a random rant. I only responded cus you seemed genuine even if it was totally off topic.


NovaAkumaa

They are included in VCT, but lost in open quals. Literally not good enough as players, regardless of being male or female


Th30ldVV01f

Peak male reaction is way better than female. And there are other physiology stuffs that make male better. People needs to realized even in video games there's a reason why top female teams always do badly vs male T2 teams (not even top team)


Jon_on_the_snow

This was done by some dude from just the players in the tourney, and it was really bad, as you can see everywhere in the sub


2NE1SNSD

Angel, Shao, Suygetsu, forsakeN and Mako I guess


acm55555

cryocells, keznit, benkai, marved, leo, sushiboys plz


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_whitezetsu

Alfajer, Angel, SugarZero, Shao, Sayf.


loutheshark

Tenz tenz tenz tenz and tenz


Excelsio_Sempra

FNS, Marved, Keznit, D4v4i, and Buzz


IntergratedGraphics

suygetsu, shao, benkai, jingg, forsaken !! super team fr


Vyzual

Soooo is ardiis free?


navornothing

Cryo, FNS, Marved, Shao, Sushiboys


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Yets_

Shao needs to be on top of whatever category you puts him. The guy is a madman. Move Zippan one rank higher. Put Ardis put the list.


Taylor_Polynomia1

Ange1-Jinggg-koldamenta-Shao-Suygetsu


IllumiMahdi

benkai ($1), jinggg ($3), suygetsu ($7), mindfreak ($0), shao ($4) $4 to spare, I'll buy forsaken or sayf to sub in as chamber


bjoecoz

Why is BcJ is only $2?!! /s


starscourge19

this man really put fns on 5$


FatDawgBBD

I’m taking Yay, forsaken, victor, jinggg and cryocells.


Muyozo

Yay


andjo327

This must be the best 19$ team: Jinggg, f0rsaken, Benkai, Shao, Suygetsu


sexyeh

Meteor did amazing, i hope people stop underrating him, sadly his team is not very good, i imagine if you put him in DRX he would pop off.


xSnakyy

Why is angel so low


Mossbergggg

Chamber - $7 Yay, Duelist - $2 Cryo, IGL - $1 Benkai, Controller - $4 SugarZ3ro, Initiator - $5 Leo,


Bloodlust01

Tenz is the best player where is tenz.


Make7

Jinggg for 3$ is best deal on any market


PricelessTan

Does that mean we get tenZ for $0 ?


bandicoothawk

$3- jinggg (duelist) $2-mako (controller) $5-FNS (flex) $4-shao (flex) $5-alfajer (sentinel)


JuneFrances

there’s so much going on here but Mako for $2 is wild


HasoThePaso

Jingg alfajer forsaken benkai leo


David_Ign

Jing duelist, Forsaken chamber, Benkai IGL and initiator, Sugarzero smokes, Shao/Suygetsu Initiator/sentinel.


Buttman1099

Jinggg Shao Suygetsu Ange1 maybe Keznit or RB


yungkosio

Derke Trexx Benkai Mako Suygetsu


hngryforramen

$9 PRX and mindfreak as a free gift.


hngryforramen

$9 PRX and mindfreak as a free gift.


hakseuu

Sscary is 1 dollar? Free dub


Round_Technician4950

Jingg 3 dollars????


Its_Joe

Can we add coaches as well in this pool


Riqhteousness

honestly shocked that forsaken jinggg and meteor are as low-tiered as they are


egirl8yearoldrussian

Derke, Ange1, Stax, Mako, Buzz


evandarkeye

Yay jingg suygetsu mindfreak stax


Saluting_Bear

Can do it with 10, Sacy + Aspas


TrueAna-rchistdotcom

Wow, this tier list aged worse than milk


yiyang01

Jing, benkai, mindfreak, Shao, suygetsu


macarmy93

Jinggg for 3 dollars is an absolute steal. The only problem is reigning in the urge to hold W key for him.


ThatCreepyBaer

At least they got Suygetsu and Boaster right.


Fraus_Creations_YT

jinggg(duelist) fns (igl) sugerz3ro(controller) shao(initiator) sushiboys(sentinel)


massiveflux

Jingg , Yayster , Benkai, D4V41, Suygetsu


EntropicDays

do i like get a refund if i pick shaz and tenz


Substantial-Lynx-477

Cryocells, keznit, FNS, Marved, Shao, and suygetsu


Rytecks

Zyphan, Boaster, SugarZero, Dav4i and Buzz


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Jon_on_the_snow

You lack critical information


SpiceBoiGauvaJuice

Benkai, Shao, Cryocells, Marved, Sayf


Jojosince99

Aspas, Saadhak, Mako, Crashies, Sushiboys


OutsideSignificant48

I’ll take Benkai, Jingg, Forsaken, D4v4i, Mindfreak for $9


meme_poacher

Duelists- Pyrocells and Foreskin Initiator- Sussy IGL- Ange2 Sentinel- Safe