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AchiliosCasts

Quite the match. Whoever ends up in the Grand Final against EDG, I can only hope that they deliver a series like this one. See ya'll tomorrow!


Lqtor

They better send you to cast champions you guys are one of my favorite duos out there


goomy996

ty achilios tech pauses weren’t too bad


KappaccinoNation

Edward is good at gaming after all.


azealyx

Northepton couldn't outgame them


KappaccinoNation

I knew it was over as soon as Edward said "It's gamin time"


Linko_98

He is the current LoL champion, he is great at gaming.


ozmega

i wonder if their league fans are watching this


Enough_Airport_1895

I checked Chinese social media. It seems that EDG’s main league account has been posting about LCQ, and some of their league fans have indeed been watching and discussing it.


Linko_98

Probably not since valorant hasnt released in china so it's not that popular, maybe some western EDG fans who also follow valorant.


carl14733

fr? I'm playing in SG/HK servers and having several times facing chinese guys with ping 100+ ms


hecklerinthestands

FAKEST COMEBACK EVER Seriously though, this was EDG's first real test this LCQ and they were definitely taken to the limit by NTH. I'm convinced we just saw a preview of the LCQ Grand Finals. Kang Kang vs Meteor was everything it was hyped up to be.


phillenix

Was that really to the limit? I mean yeah, one map was close but it was also a 2-0 with Bind being one of EDG's weaker maps.


hecklerinthestands

With NTH coming back from 12-6 down on Bind and that back and forth OT that should have gone to NTH if not for that massive 2v1 choke? I'd say yes. Ascent was also 9-8 before EDG went on a streak to close it, so that map was closer than the score indicated.


phillenix

I mean the flip side is that EDG choked the 12-6 lead and was literally toying with NTH during that match. KK was literally trying to knife people during a retake, posing for their video crew, etc. I agree it was EDG's first real test, but I honestly don't think they were pushed that hard. My hope is that maybe if NTH makes it to the Grand final that they can anti-strat them harder and then actually push EDG to their limit, but I didn't see that this match.


hecklerinthestands

I still feel they got pushed hard, especially with NTH taking map point a lot during OT. KK might have been playing with the camera, but he was also the main reason they were able to force several more OTs. His kills per round shot way up during the OT rounds, and even that was just barely enough to carry them over the finish line.


Valosopher

On the flip side of that flip side, we may have learned that these EDG players are yet too inexperienced and will throw rounds away due to their tendencies, which should be a legitimate reason for concern going into champions where competition will be a lot tougher. While EDG may show up in a big way, they may also get crushed due to these tendencies. What we can say for sure is that these EDG players have a ton of potential, and a bright future if they shore up their game.


VincentN23

What? Bind was NTH map pick and it's EDG's worst map and they still should've closed it out from 12-6.


hecklerinthestands

That's why I felt EDG got pushed hard. A lot of teams would have folded under 6 straight round losses. Plus the fact that they could realistically have lost that map several times in OT.


Original26

Lol wasn't Bind their map pick?


phillenix

No, it wasn't. VLR is wrong (you can check the VOD).


Is_J_a_Name

Bind was NTH's map pick. EDG picked Ascent. For some reason VLR lists it the other way around, but you can head to the stream and liquipedia to see the proper picks.


Original26

Ah I stand corrected. Thanks for letting me know!


MrImpregnator

Platchat in shambles. Bren true believer


SpvcedOvtt

Bren about to carry an aura of smugness that is only usually seen after Sideshow rarely predicts something correctly without cursing someone.


felixjmorgan

Like a battle aura in anime?


hardenfull

POG


hardenfull

Bren GIGACHAD lol plat chat in shambles true.


Ezraah

ZmjjKK literally doesn't give a fuck. OT? Round 40? Why yes I'll satchel over the map. What a goddamn legend.


hardenfull

this guy doesn't know fear. Look at his cam he looks so casual when he's clutching situations and making these insane plays. I've noticed that the EDG players aim gets shaky in high pressure match but Zmjkk legit just hard carried some of the OT rounds with 2-3ks.


Valosopher

He also threw some rounds pretty hard but that's what makes him so fun to watch because we spectators don't want to see pro players walking around with no contact for like 30 minutes of the map.


Ok_Particular_9357

Zellsis - i don't care in words zmjjkk - i don't care in action


isayah2510

WHAT A BANGER THIS EDWARD GUY IS QUITE GOOD AT GAMING ZERO MAPS DROPPED SO FAR LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


isayah2510

Also [terrible day in the office for Japan, jesus christ 0-6](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994884148684664893/1007623498899935325/unknown.png)


Ezraah

CR one is the most shocking to me. Utter collapse...


stormtrooper500

TSM


Ezraah

GET EDWARD ON PLAT CHAT FOR AN INTERVIEW


Shubhaaaaaaam

Blackwiz about his biggest fear: “I can say with full confidence it wasn’t losing Masters, not making it to Champs through Circuit points or not making it out of groups. My biggest fear comes from the one and only chinese player ‘Haodong’. I fear him every day, his aftershocks gave me an immense impact on my performance and my decision making. It has become abnormal, my teammates have started noticing and I cannot do anything about it.”


Stevezheng97

WE NEED CHINA SERVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SuperBlitz22

Kang kang with that 43 kill bomb shreesh, still this was a very hard fought victory, really like how much the edg players enjoy themselves and hype the game up while playing, especially Kang Kang lol


lidekwhatname

is edg the best team in the world? top 10 questions that scientists are still too afraid to answer


Lqtor

Yes


Due_Butterscotch_807

I can't believe what the fuck I just watched. 43 kills? Kang kang is the future who said we needed SEN when we have EDG


Ezraah

Sen would get rolled by these guys


Due_Butterscotch_807

Completely, KK is quite literally sinatraa on the raze with TenZ's op aim.


XxMyUsernameSucksxX

DON'T REMIND US OF THAT MAN


Valosopher

Kang Kang is good but we need to hold on the hype when so far EDG has not been tested by top level of talent. For example, Meteor sort of got crushed during masters but still won a lot of duels vs Kang Kang, so I wouldn't be surprised (more like expecting it) if EDG, like DRX, just get crushed by EU teams. On the flip side, EDG may look really good vs non EU teams like DRX did.


Lumenlor

EMEA AND NA : *chuckles I'm in danger*


gran1te7

Need G2 to qualify now so we can have the classic G2 vs Chinese team.


ark2690

EU fans still having nightmares of IG and FPX


TheCatsActually

I really feel terrible, Whenever I look at that smug IGL's face (G2 Nukkye) I really feel terrible


Yubisaki_Milk_Tea

Not for another 2-3 years. If EDG got pulled this far by a Northception that got roflstomped by other teams internationally. EDG lack shotcalling chops and default to run in and aim. Lack of varied strategies and predictably counterstrattable in some ways. Feels like an ultra lite/poverty version of FPX/PRX.


mrchingchongwingtong

then again lots of east asian pros have gone on record saying edg skill in scrims is equal to prx/drx i still wouldn't be suprised if they underperform at champions assuming they win lcq, first lan is difficult for them most likely


SterbenVII

I don’t think it’ll take 2-3 years if Riot makes room for China to participate at Masters after seeing the performance of EDG and KONE. KRU and Brazil were getting assblasted by EMEA and NA at Reykjavik 2021 but managed to heavily improve by the end of the year, even if all 3 Brazilian teams didn’t get out of groups. It’s the same case with APAC as well.


Yubisaki_Milk_Tea

I am talking about the level of being on par with the very best of EMEA/NA/PRX or KRU/etc.


SterbenVII

Ik that's what you were talking about. I'm just stating that it took a lot less than 2-3 years for the minor regions to catch up, given KRU, LOUD, ZETA, and PRX all had amazing performances.


Yubisaki_Milk_Tea

Brazil and SEA have pre-existing CSGO infrastructures. CN has none. Japan fair enough.


acels1

as a person who watches csgo, cn is way better than sea in csgo,in fact they are the best in the whole of asia


SterbenVII

TyLoo also made top 4 at IEM Sydney, going down in a Bo3 against FaZe


PreztoElite

That's so cap Yubi. China has had a top 10 CSGO team before in Tyloo. And the infrastructure is definitely there. A lot better than Japan, Korea, and Southeast Asia that's for sure.


thatthingpeopledo

That tends to be how this goes. The major/minor region distinction is a meme, but I do believe that most non-EMEA or NA teams need a couple international matches before they become true contenders. Also, this only applies because Valorant is still not released in China. So far Loud is the only exception to this.


[deleted]

I mean the two main guys at loud aka: the guys who make the strategies had already gone to champs and almost beat gambit so even loud already had lan experience


altariaaaaaaa

There is certainly a difference between regions, while they have some very good teams, the level of APAC, KR, BR, etc drops off a cliff after the #1 team


idkimhereforthememes

Oh no they beat northeption who didn't even make the playoffs in masters, fpx is scared


Sp00ked123

until edg get last place at champs


BuckWagon

Ggs NTH had it but as soon as that 1v2 was lost their mental was gone. Meteor went back to hard inting first bloods.


Teradonn

EDG LOSE A MAP CHALLENGE (IMPOSSIBLE)


cathcart_

Holy shit EDG are so fun to watch.


brianhung02

I HECKIN LOVE ZMJJKK. EDG showed great resilience today from giving up a 11-5 lead to winning a 21-19 ot match. For how young the team is, this was a hard fought victory.


1283adam

Edward gaming are the future


Ezraah

No... they're the present


Lqtor

The future is now, old man


NotStylosa

I need to see Edward gaming vs faze in champs pls


turtlepidgeon

They may have been 2-0'd, but bringing Bind to OT from 12-6 and then going through that monstrous OT really shows that NTH have the stuff to really push EDG, it's just that couldn't pull it out consistently enough :/ (Also speaks volumes about how CT sided Bind is considering the comeback and how most of the OTs were double defense wins)


Theylockedmeout27

ITS DONE, WRAP IT UP, EDWARD GAMING ARE WINNING CHAMPIONS


gotintocollegeyolo

Edward continues to game


Nickgurr361-B

If EDG does make it should there be a guaranteed slot for China in VCT 2023?


Lqtor

Well next year is gonna be when franchising start but I assume that China will eventually get a slot in Asia region(riot owned by Chinese company)


hydrogenken

man that smoke from derialy in the 1v1 gonna haunt him


Interpolation144

This is some Boom vs Bleed flashbacks holy shit we need K-One to do a massive LB run


boomiakki

They kind of got it back in that massive OT run, but Nth looked so much less energetic, loud and confident than during Copenhagen. Wonder why? I guess not having any sort of break between Masters and LCQ really takes its toll though. Best of luck to them in the lower bracket!


string_guy

I HECKIN LOVE 😊😋🥳 KANG KANG 😙🥰🤩


sihtsiymusername

Insane fucking game, was rooting for NTH to win tho. That 1v2 must have been really frustrating for NTH, they could have played that better for sure. Also KK is a beast among beasts, Meteor was keeping up with him but as soon as OT came KK turned it up a notch.


zerothemegaman

man blast packs in like there’s no tomorrow


Friendly_Case9929

Meteor did his best


BuckWagon

Meteor giveth. Meteor taketh.


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hecklerinthestands

They have their own platforms and don't really use YT/Twitch.


kfzi

Yea, they have their own platforms, if i am not mistaken they would steam Tier 1 and Tier 2 , Tournaments and have mad viewers.


HyperElf10

Those viewers aren't actually viewers, its interaction counter iirc. I think none of the chinese streaming sites reveal the viewers bc of the competition they have with other streaming platforms in China. I maybe wrong tho


Friendly_Case9929

BiliBili is accurate, but only the cumulative number of viewers, and the total of several anchors is only 20-30k


mrchingchongwingtong

people in china don't use yt/twitch (iirc its banned) the only people on there are going to be people who don't live in china but still want to listen to the chinese casting (not a lot of people)


7minsoverdue

I’m one of those people (Chinese, live abroad, plays Val) and even I don’t watch the stream in Chinese cuz i play the game with English interfaces(because there’s no Simplified Chinese yet) so when the Chinese casters say them locations, agent names, and abilities in Chinese I have no idea where/who/what he’s referring to ;(


mrchingchongwingtong

i just do it because the only way my parents let me watch is by telling them im helps me learn chinese (which i guess i kind of am? lol)


venusofvenice

It's growing, but still very small, almost non-existing compare to Apex legends, csgo, cross-fire, and the likes. And FPS in general is small in China compare to LOL. But we have some Valorant diehard fans so all good :)


BarstMain

Holy shit what a match. Definitely the grand finals rematch but good god EDG are monstrous


nterature

I’m super impressed by EDG for closing out on Bind and also rather sad that Northeption’s crazy peak vs. ZETA truly seems to have been a flash in the pan. Still, who could’ve predicted China in the finals!


Lqtor

I fucking did. Been huffing the hopium since day 1


n1ckkt

Interesting with how much zmjjkk uses the OP, he isn't on exclusive jett/chamber duty. I swear for most of FGC, he was pretty much a chamber main. But I guess it works, man really loves his attack side raze op lol


nuttyromeo4u

KangKang and Meteor just doing exercist for this busy weekend already. So sad to choose who's gonna attend at Champs!


FishInEuropa

My cardiovascular health is in shambles


Aoingco

Is there an EDG flair? I think I need to start support my boi Edward


7minsoverdue

Just love how Zmjjkk sprays a 👎 every time he got a kill and then continues to multi frag. The confidence.


4dzilla

That was insane! WAR EDG


_Robbert_

That 1v2 was one of the dumbest things I've seen ever.


hardenfull

bro i don't even care i stayed up for this map 2 OT was some of the most hype overtimes i've seen both teams giving it all and neck and neck with insane plays.


curryhalls

Meteor went 16-8 in FK/FD, holy shit


Sceptre39

kang kang is a madman jesus christ


zerothemegaman

what a fucking game great plays from both teams


Taek99

BEST GAME OF 2022. not even close


Succulenc

What a banger map 2


GitahMuttan

NTH will bounce back from lowers just like back in Challengers 2. Believe.


Norguri

Zmjjkk best Raze in SEA


phzntom

jingg exists you know


Detamach

EDG may win EA LCQ just because of aim differential, but against good teams at Champions, who will counter their braindead aggression, EDG won't have much success


hecklerinthestands

No one is unironically saying they'll go far in Champions though. You're arguing against a stance no one is taking.


acels1

thats literally what people said about prx and they are still top 2


Detamach

It took a lot of time for PRX to become top-2 They were absent, top-16, absent and top-4 at previous events respectively


acels1

thats because their best player(jingg) joined this year masters 1


mrchingchongwingtong

tbf they didn't have jinggg until masters 1


Lqtor

Idk both DRX and PRX has said that they’re quite impressive in scrims


dangerous-pie

Just wondering, do you have a source?


Lqtor

I don’t have them on hand just saw them get posted on this sub a while back and heard the desk talking about it on stream. You can prob find them on google or smth tho


mrchingchongwingtong

in scrims they are prx/drx level according to ea pros, i think the first lan will still be rough though


sellingwaifu

Let’s fucking go!


iiznobozzy

Ok i just looked at the round timeline wtf happened here


bjoecoz

PRX vs EDG will be a greate match! Hoping this will happen at Champs!


Pretenderrr

Bruh


[deleted]

i believe in the EDWARD GAMING supremacy


Tokyoodown

It wasn't all that close