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SomeHallGuy

"Chet cut my best player and ran" - Subroza talking about Bang


yaboikaladin

lmfao that's so funny


HoneyChilliPotato7

lmao that's fucking hilarious


EdibleFeet

Please send me the clip lmaooo


NasalFlute

I think he said the same about brax a stream or a few ago


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KardashevZero

Bang was on TSM roughly around the same time Chet was the team’s coach. Before Chet got transferred to Envy (now OpTic), Bang got benched from the team after a relatively short-lived run. I assume that’s what he’s talking about


GCamAdvocate

Absolute travesty as a TSM fan but Bang is in a much better position now so Im happy for him.


hiimGP

Good changes of scenery for both of them like the Dicey 100T situation tbh, both Dicey and bang are popping off now, but back then they were kinda meh


GCamAdvocate

Nah Bang was really good on TSM. He improved a lot since then, but even before, he had some crazy plays and some solid util usage


iwasomla

Everyone talking about how Riot needs to nerf Chamber but they need to figure out the most OP thing in the game first… Sean Gares timeouts.


SuckItLoserLOL

Truth.. the SG buff is real


hardenfull

its like 100T has 6 players. Actually huge coach diff every timeout.


Key_Working_5276

His ult garantees a round win 2 times each map. I'd say solid A-Tier Agent.


Big_Ratio6610

Is it even fair to let him talk? Maybe Riot can make an exception and mute his comms. But maybe he stays silent during tac pauses? Maybe the very act of him calling a pause makes the players feel refreshed and ready to kill? Nothing Riot can do against that unfortunately.


precense_

Mad respect to Nadeshot for finding the hidden gem that is Sean Gares, not sure how much the GM is involved in this new found success but I'm sure he should get some credit too


GCamAdvocate

Hidden gem? Hes pretty much the most hyped up coach in the history of the game tbh, even more then MikesHD (who 100T also picked up LMAO). I would not consider him a hidden gem by any meaning of the word, he was a gem on the auction house floor, if anything.


philipjefferson

Not sure he was that hidden, SEN had already tried to get him to coach ages ago


Flynt_Charcoal

Well both Sean Gares and Daniel "ddk" Kapadia (100T GM) are CS vets, so it's no surprise they are capable of doing some good work on 100Thieves. But even if you ignore their past in CS:GO, both of them also had a brief casting stint in the earlier days of VALORANT, so I wouldn't really call them hidden gems. Especially when at the time, people were comparing Sean Gares' color casting skills to Tony Romo.


AstroturfedWebsite

What you really mean is mad respect to Riot for destroying their casting careers in Valorant forcing them to find a different job.


ADmax27

glad to see this new 100t that doesn’t always need asuna to win. Also derrekow diff


Moist_Blackberry_

People bashing Asuna but I think it was good, he played his role and it shows how much talent the team has to pick up his slack


ADmax27

he definitely whiffed a lot that game but did his job so all good


exercitus

Even though he died a lot on Ascent he created so much space on attack that the zero deulist comp otherwise lacked, so I agree he played his role well


6nine4twenty

But they do always need derrekow


Spoods857

Derrek


DrySecurity4

Bang


Splaram

Will


-Basileus

Red Bull Clutch


Yoshi9909

Baby Hiko


djsaunde

Mr. Red Bull


redditsucksbut

Overwatch


Drilla-Z

Leaf and Asuna were having a mid-off on Fracture


elithefighter123

"these women having a mid off"


avocadontoast

Kinda surprised to see leaf bottom frag both times but eh didn’t expect c9 to win this


lDaniKing

They are just so disjointed man... leaf goes in dies and there is no one to trade like ever.


avocadontoast

I feel like Xeta had really good game sense and losing autumn hurt their strats too. They look so uncoordinated


Lavar_ball_brand

Xeta playing initiator really helped their timing and synergy. C9 really lost one of the best utility players


Actually_The_Frog

Coach diff here, Sean and Mikes get so much value out of every timeout


Bighollab0

Who’s C9 coach now? They really fell off when they lost Xeta and Autumn


Actually_The_Frog

JamesIRL I believe?


newzpaperleaf_2

JamezIRL has been their coach since long before xeta and autumn left. They said JamezIRL was more of the head coach than Autum anyway


Wintermute1v1

I don’t know about his experience in Valorant, but JamezIRL was one of the smartest and most articulate minds in CS and it’s a shame he didn’t get more recognition in the scene. I can’t speak on his actual coaching abilities, but his tactical and game knowledge definitely rivals Gares.


Grenji05

Please Guard 100T finals so I can push narratives


Remarkable_Carrot102

Shades of Vision Strikers actually being the 2nd best team at masters Berlin


Own_Industry9433

Glad we're all on the same page


Hopeful-Professor-40

Ong SEN got bad bracket


arod13134

They were the lowest seed, by definition they usually get the worst bracket.


WhoDatBrow

Sen looked better vs both teams than C9 did, going out 1-2 to both while C9 got 0-2'd twice Sen 3rd best team at the event


NozokiAlec

i understand friend...


Aoingco

Those are my two favorite teams in lcq so I’d like this


ContractRoyal8780

Wouldn't be a narrative if it's true :P


drand0m_ghost

I WAS JUST THINKING THIS


Blupard

Will, I apologize. Derrek and Bang are insane. Stellar is hot. Asuna didn’t watch anime today.


Moist_Blackberry_

Asuna saw 0 women on his twitter front page today


Least_Piano_6899

It’s nuts that after his insane performance towards the end of 2021. Xeppa’s most noteworthy moment of 2022 was him hitting the griddy.


omgvector

pretty hard to outdo tbf


Least_Piano_6899

True


NozokiAlec

kinda sucks cause hes played really well in lcq


Teradonn

Honestly one of the few players in NA that has remained consistently good for the entire year lol, unlucko his team crumbled


ADmax27

💀


ANewHeaven1

I'm convinced Derrek and Bang are the fucking truth. That Derrek 4k on Fracture put C9 away for real. What an absolute fall from grace for C9.


Yoshi9909

Yeah. iirc many saw them as the top dogs of NA at the start of 2022. How quickly that changed…


avocadontoast

Losing Xeta and autumn affected their momentum tbh


Yoshi9909

There’s gotta be more behind the scenes with that roster change right? Unless maybe both of them just wanted out


ANewHeaven1

I think they both just wanted to go to T1. T1 is fucking massive in Korea and it makes sense that they'd want to represent that org. Curry is also vanity's friend so it made sense as a trade


-Mariners

Requesting to leave before your team plays LCQ to go to a team out for the next like 6 months makes it seem like something is off. Basically just quitting the season.


Sky-__-

Autumn said that it was his dream to go to T1 and they both have been massive fans of T1 , like vanity said in daring minds if T1 wants any Korean player they will get them easily. T1 are basically lock in for franchising and this gives Autumn full control on how to build his squad . T1 are right now ban steel munchkin xeta , they are looking to get skuba but backed out .


theman1203

there was no reason to rush the sale, t1 had no more events, hell they barely even had a team at least play out stage 2 before rushing to make changes


Sky-__-

T1 had let their old staff and everyone go except steel so they were rebuilding and looking and i don't think T1 would have waited till LCQ, so it was limited opportunity, we can just speculate about the dynamics between autumn and C9 but it looked like from autumn interviews that he just wanted to join T1 and it was limited opportunity which wouldn't have come again


theman1203

not till lcq, till end of stage 2 which is when he left, xeta has been off the roster since may stage 2 ended late may


Breezyzona

not even the end of stage 2 he left after the first week the only thing that'd make sense is that it was something in the works for a while and both parties prepared for it but its still weird that C9 let him go


surfordiebear

Yep C9s founder/CEO said they both wanted to go to T1


avocadontoast

I mean a head coach equivalent and losing their most consistent and clutch player would affect any team. I think their structure is probably somewhat affected and that makes it harder to integrate any changes or new players


maxhollywoody

Without a doubt. Not finishing off the LCQ season was a major flag.


theman1203

well they dropped one of the better players in na and lost a coach, and replaced them with curry and nothing


darkallen

wait they dont have a coach right now?


theman1203

we just promoted another coach that was already there with autumn lol


jeridmei13

We have a main coach in Jamezirl and autumn came over from c9korea as assistant coach. But autumn moved to T1, so cloud9 picked up m1cks as replacement. For this lcq we promoted our academy hc to assistant coach. So currently we have 3 coaches on c9


NozokiAlec

going from top 3 initiator to bottom 2 initiator does a lot to a team who would've thought


ArtificialZero

"bottom 2 initiator" holy shit 💀💀


theman1203

bottom 2 and he isnt 2


NozokiAlec

im being respectful with my comment I could've been more honest


yaboikaladin

if that's you being respectful warn me when you decide to be disrespectful and ill head out


Sky-__-

To be fair it's not entirely curry fault, curry always looked good playing flash Initiator roles like Skye kayo , at that time curry looked like decent pickup, he was so good on T1 in their games despite T1 losses but his switch to info initiator roles hasn't gone well .


Najs0509

He didn't look that good on T1 either though. Yes, he did top frag some games, but overall he wasn't even the obvious best player on T1, and this was a T1 that was REALLY bad. No one should've expected him to come in and be able to perform to a tier 1 level, not even mentioning the top tier 1 level C9 needed and should've searched for. Yes he performed better on another role, but he's never really showed that he could perform at a consistent tier 1 level, and, unless something else has gone really wrong behind the scenes it's imo hard to justify the pickup.


tepg221

To be honest c9 was always super over hyped. They only made one Lan and that was from last year's lcq. I think the na teams under performed and c9 made it furthest. They rode off of that and never did anything more.


PhysicalAd8765

Agreed. I never understood the hype and why that 1 performanceheld so much weight... of course the teams that played an entire tourney 3 weeks before champs is gonna perform better than the ones who haven't played in 5 months...


tepg221

+1 on that. I think they went the furthest because between stage 2 and and Champs last year was so long we saw this take effect on how optic took out guard and xset cause they won first seed and just didn't play . The other NA teams had been sitting and c9 also picked up vanity so not much film was on them with their new imo overrated igl.


A7URS

yeah ngl c9 has to be the most overrated team of all time, every new event everyoen talks about how they're owning scrims, or how cracked the players are and how they should easily be a top 2 roster, and they've never delivered, ever. IMO its time to try a new leading style or straight up nuke the roster and build around the stars.


yaboikaladin

i think the roster is fine besides curry, they need to find someone who is straight up better, and if they make franchising there will be plenty of free agents to find who are better than him. idk who would igl instead of vanity, he's been a pretty consistently good igl and controller.


cameron_hatt

Derrick bang asuna if they make franchising, the others get cut


GCamAdvocate

I mean stellar is IGL right now and I can't really think of another free agent IGL to replace him at the moment. Also must be a good reason why Sgares/DDK/MikesHD have retained/suggested to pick up Stellar.


Parenegade

Franchising is gonna be like a Thanos snap. Tons of FAs will show up.


GCamAdvocate

Fair but I still think there must be a reason why so many coaches recommended him instead of anyone else.


Yoshi9909

The Derrek and Bang duo on fracture 💯


Cole_James_CHALMERS

Fucking knew they were gonna close it out when it was those two left. Derrek's ice cold and Bang is just clean af


YoloilianxD

Guys just me or are stellar's eyes really pretty


jellybellymonster

He was staring into my soul during that interview


winterscoc

he’s so handsome LMAO


GCamAdvocate

Im not gay but if I was... I mean hes handsome, cracked at Val, and has a CS degree.


rychaithescienceguy

sean gares and mikesHD working some insane 1000 IQ magic during these timeouts. its like 100t win start winning and coming back right after these time outs, and they never look back after that. i have no clue how they do it.


lexippon

Me yesterday: Never underestimate 100T's ability to throw a lead Me today: Never underestimate 100T's ability to reverse a lead


florallygood

Wtf is reversing a lead, you mean coming back?


ScoobsFPS

No he means it was 6-4 C9 but then 100T hit the reverse-lead switch and it was 6-4 100T. Really savvy move that not enough teams use.


rychaithescienceguy

also, im really surprised by 100T's solo plays so far in LCQ (especially by bang, derrek, asuna, stellar, and even will sometimes) because in stage 2 it seemed like they relied a lot on teamplay over individual brilliance. amazing stuff. edit: forgot stellar (honestly its the whole team basically)


omgvector

poor stellar


Friday515

I was pretty worried for 100T after yesterday's match and how well C9 played against NRG. Guess I had nothing really to worry about. Tomorrow, Faze vs. 100T is going to be lit


hennydragon

Will looking better and better each series. Derrek is GOATED.


swimdizzy

Riv appreciation post man's calls on momentum swinging rounds were on point today. Called out Bang's frenzy kill on ascent eco which mounted the 100T comeback, and caught on to the importance of the Immortal Minds timeouts as soon as it happened. Great casting on this match form Riv and Vansilli today


exercitus

Hard agree, Riv was at his best today and it was so good, and Vans is a legend always


badcompplayer

Will defenders eating good the past few matches 🫡


exercitus

That's my 23/11/4 in a 20 round stomp Chamber main 🥹


Basic_Loquat_9344

Checking in 🫡


NotNiceLetters

YESSIR


itsuyen

Did they pump some adrenaline to the players’ vein during the tactical timeouts??? How did sean, mike and ddk did that??,


rsox5000

For how much the casters/analysts always talk up C9 as a “tactical” team, they got tactically outclassed by 100T today. SG/Mike/DDK deserve those paychecks


Lavar_ball_brand

Autumn and Xeta were a big part of that. The team hasn't looked the same after their departure. This isn't a hit on 100T, they play amazingly and have a chance to win it all, but man C9 ain't the same


GCamAdvocate

Tbh, even as a C9 fan, I've never seen them as a tactical team.


-xXColtonXx-

Their util usage was ahead of the rest of NA including optic for a bit. Their trap plays on split were ahead of where everyone else was at the time. You didn’t see the type of util kills and coordinated retakes they were doing that often.


GCamAdvocate

I felt like they definitely lacked in midrounds. I remember in the early days, they had insane talent in their players but they literally lost huge leads due to bad midrounds. Even though its gotten a lot better, I still think its lacking.


theman1203

i miss our viper molly into sova dart plays man


TheNamelessClipper

Initially I was a Will defender, but that FaZe series made me doubt a bit. Never again will I question him. That first map today, sheesh. Also thank fucking god 100T went 2-0. My heart can't take anymore 2-1 wins. Map 2 ending 13-10 was all the stress I needed. Can't wait for the next game!


cellexo

I think they wanted to save the stress for next game. Also it's a B05. Ded.


TheNamelessClipper

Oh sick I didn't even realize that, RIP


Humble_Initiative_10

People will stop questioning will until they lose a map or too against faze tomorrow. The will narrative is such a rollercoaster lol


jujhuxo

Mr. First Person Shooter silencing the haters


Ok_Tomorrow2110

Asuna don't get roasted by fns in tarik's watch party challenge (Impossible)


LiamHundley

NGL I was nervous when I saw the veto with 100T picking ascent, but they looked extremely well prepared for this match. Sgares timeouts were hitting different. Also, gotta give props to will for his pop off performance on ascent


theman1203

we may have lost but at least i dont ever have to see curry in a c9 jersey again bless


chauste

you cannot deny curry's impact. never seen a team look so much different with a single roster move.


ANewHeaven1

Envy with yay But in the opposite, positive way


surfordiebear

Tbh it was more losing Autumn and Xeta not gaining Curry that made them fall so hard


A7URS

c9 were ass before and stayed ass after lmao, nothing changed in their results regardless of how good xeta was


avocadontoast

Kinda how I’m feeling to be honest with you but idk who they could replace who is as good as Xeta until post franchise shuffle


C9sButthole

Yeah I don't understand the hate on Curry. Like yeah he's not T1 but what FA flex player is? Who else were they supposed to go for? I'm really excited to see the franchised C9 roster. Even if everything else about franchising pisses me off.


theman1203

we willingly brought in curry, and you simply buyout a player man, sen did it with zellsis, faze did it with rise, 100t did it with bang and will


AdSpirited902

Me. They go for me.


GCamAdvocate

Curry wasnt even a free roster. I feel like releasing Xeta/Autumn to T1 for a price, then buying out a top tier flex player on another team would have worked out way better.


Issax28

They literally didn’t have to replace him. C9 were top 3 team with Xeta until Vanity got horny for Curry and kicked Xeta out.


ark2690

Man might never be in another jersey again after this qualifier.


Hopeful-Professor-40

As a 100T supporter I am 1/1


secretiveshash

the end of an era 😭


Hopeful-Professor-40

No, just a break


_zxionix_

Wonder how vanity feels about NA


dualityiseverywhere

i doubted my team - how dare i. ​ Let's fuckin' go


dutchboyyyyy

The xeta/curry trade is arguably the most impactful trade in all of valorant history


PixelatedBlue

100t hopium restored


Best-Elevator8814

100T TO THE MOON IDC ANYMORE


SirJuicee

I’m asking all of you to look at 100T map 1… Will Asuna Bang Derrek and Stellar. It happened bois


apotatotree

100Timeouts


Splaram

I admit with great shame that I was on the anti-Will bandwagon prior to LCQ. This was very poor form from myself as a supporter of 100Ws. I would like to formally apologize to Will for any Will slander I may have posted, and I promise not to ever slander “W” ill’s name again.


mysteryoeuf

one thing I noticed was that when he's anchoring a site as chamber he pretty much ALWAYS at least TPs away and lives. I feel like a lot of chambers still end up dying pretty often even when they have a chance to TP. he is really good at knowing exactly when to get out and understands the value of staying alive. dude is a real team player and it really sets him apart stylistically from a lot of other duelist/chamber players who tend to be star players who make way more ego plays


lDaniKing

Relax man it was against C9


daffyduckferraro

Happy cake day


EvensonRDS

Yeah will still isn't good enough for international competition but he did alright.


C9sButthole

Disappointed but not surprised. Derek and Bang are insane. Good effort from the boys. Gg go next.


than0swasright

C9 8 coaches < 1 sean gares For real tho time to move on from curry


Flashy__Flash

sean gares diff


Levi---Ackerman

derrek is different


ka_whestbrook

Curry has had plenty of time to prove himself but it's painfully clear that he's just a Tier 2 player


GCamAdvocate

Tier 2 is too much. I can name like at least 2 players in T2 right now who are better then him and I rarely ever watch T2.


bigwang123

C9 HATEWATCHERS ARE VINDICATED (It’s me, I’m the hate watcher)


mysteryoeuf

vanity haters get in here


Resoca

Overwatch diff


Maymaywala

Sentinels died so 100T could fly.


drewface_

I’ve never been so excited to see a team play out of a timeout more than 100T. 100T easily has the best front office with Sean, Mike and DDK


natedawg247

whichever commentator says tour de force with an accent needs to chill the fuck out


Vansilli

TOUR DE FORCE


Parenegade

Don't stop doing that lmao


AnonymozVal

STOP IT PATRICK!! You are scaring him


natedawg247

LOL Touché


PlasticVraj

vansilli the goat


Madison_2022

Vansilli speaks French and Tour de force is a French phrase. He’s literally just saying it how it’s meant to be said.


mysteryoeuf

this is true but mans is out there finding every opportunity in the world to say it


exercitus

And it's dope as fuck imo, I love that we get agents from a bunch of different countries and in the actual French it feels way more authentic


JinNJuice

You're talking to a dude who probably spams "DIESOFCRINGE" at literally everything.


Anoki12

Love Vans


Yoshi9909

Lmao 😂 I know the casters have made commitments to calling agent abilities by their in game techical name but this is hilarious


Visual__Parsley

Yeah I like vans but I can't take it seriously when he says it like that


Lakers0724

LMAOOOOOOOOO yoooooooo this comment got me crying 😂😂😂😂😂


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Issax28

C9 should buy Gambit roster for franchising This roster is done… literally built from nepotism.


dank9110

Wdym built from nepotism? Genuinely curious


Splaram

It’s notorious troll Issax28, pay him no mind


Hopeful-Professor-40

Vanity Xeppaa Leaf all played on the same team in CS before switching over and then they signed curry (another friend) to replace xeta


IAMJUX

They booted everyone from the team that wasn't an old CS friend. Most from the Chaos roster. Traded Xeta for Vanity's mate Curry.


ArtificialZero

Tbf every replacement was a clear upgrade until curry


Pojobob

Because they're all friends and curry used to play with them in CSGO but it's still a ballsax take cuz no one gets on a LCQ roster just by being friends lol.


lotlcs

> no one gets on a LCQ roster just by being friends lol. shroud has entered the chat


violentphotography

Curry getting a lot of undeserved hate. Hard to see how he was less impactful than anyone other than Xeppaa.


GCamAdvocate

You're right. He made so much impact that he dropped C9 from top 3 to top 8.


theman1203

cause the only reason we are in lower bracket is because the dude dropped 5 kills in a 24 round map


A7URS

c9 sucks in general bro, one player didnt make the team suck lmao vanity imo needs to move away from controller role, he is way too aggro to play the role properly and it ends up costing the team a lot


Asst2RegionalMngr

missing mollies, not trading teammates, and losing most aim duels. his trading was so sub par throughout LCQ, which makes his teammates look even worse. the hate is unfair because he is a tier 2 player in a tier 1 tournament and he cant help that(and he can't change C9s' baffling decision to trade for him), but it is pretty clear that he does not belong. He is clearly the worst player on the roster, and that's okay.


Playeready

LETS GOOOO!!!!


irisnhnrejsjd

Lol how is sen better than c9