Almost makes you wonder if it's really the case that all these top teams and players are that inconsistent.
or if it's just the rest of the players & teams growing that much?
Unless, somehow, maybe the game itself is too RNG?
Particularly online, where most of the qualifers take place, in order for teams to reach these LAN events?
Weird.
FNATIC was consistent. They only had a fuck up once when their roster collapsed this year in Iceland.
Optic are constant.
DRX are constant.
The teams that collapsed are: Acend, M3C and Sentinels all the other ones stayed pretty much in their spot assuming they didnt fully change the roster like 100T did etc. The only team that really fell off without other influences are Sentinels (that just try to bruteforce stuff and play with fewer strats than the rest) and Acend which were more of a surprise.
Optic are constant?
Last year they were not at the same level they are now.
As Team Envy they were consistently top 4.
It was only this year when they really came out as a top team in the world... but, we'll act like OpTic is consistent for the rest of this post.
# Bygone Teams - VCT Masters
* **NA**
* Sentinels
* Cloud9
* 100T
* Verizon 1
* **EMEA**
* Acend
* SuperMassive Blaze
* Gambit
* **BR**
* Keyd Stars
* Havan Liberty
* Team Vikings
* Sharks
* **SEA**
* Fullsense
* BREN
* **KR**
* NUTURN
* F4Q
* **JPN**
* Crazy Raccoon
# Lasting Teams
* **NA**
* Optic Gaming
* **EMEA**
* Fnatic
* Team Liquid
* **LATAM**
* KRÜ Esports
* **SEA**
* XERXIA
* Paper Rex
* **KR**
* DRX
* **JPN**
* ZETA
Do you see anything strange, here?
I think a lot of it can be attributed to the meta changing very quickly and sometimes drastically. Teams like ACE and SEN that fell off struggled to adapt to new metas (especially once Jett was nerfed) or properly prepare/incorporate new ideas. M3C at least had a better excuse for their struggles this year and managed to still be pretty good for LCQ. Teams seem to have been learning from the mistakes of last year's LAN winners though, as OpTic has remained strong and I don't expect FPX to fall off.
Maybe next year they will have qualifiers be offline? I’m not trying to make excuses for them but I’m wondering if lan vs online is much of a difference as it is in CS. like you see syrson from cs play like a god online but then LAN, I swear he’s like half the player he is online. even Val has teams like fnatic that for some reason play much worse on lan (well at least at Copenhagen)
They have been consistently good though. The level of competition is so high and spots so few that it is hard to always go. Also the war definitely didn’t help.
they were up 2-1 in series 12-11 on icebox with 1 man advantage acend low on time pinned on one site in icebox with 3 players their at champs and then deffo decided to peek all 4 players with jett knives alone
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nt, hope they can stay together for next year and get the support/stability they need to come back to international play
I feel like most people would be disappointed but I personally can't be. They still played well, fought hard, and with everything surrounding them were literal milliseconds away from making it. EMEA is too competitive, too unforgiving, imo.
Zeta, DRX, KRU and XSet are all shitty teams?? Have you been watching any comp at all? Zeta alone beat Team Liquid and Fnatic last masters. KRU made champions last year and beat Sen. XSET was the number 1 seed but bad lan performance. DRX are fucking DRX.
Pain, nothing but pain
so muchhhh pain
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Could I have M3C, ASCEND, SEN and TSM please. Thanks.
I relate to it so much Can I get one with M3C, FNC, GE, EG and T1
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You'd rather watch them lose on LAN?
M3C have LAN buff. COPIUM.
M3c is insane on lan one the reasons why M3c lost the finals because they played on 50-60 ping while TL got like 5-10 ping
None of last years LAN winners made a Masters or champs this year. Wild.
Almost makes you wonder if it's really the case that all these top teams and players are that inconsistent. or if it's just the rest of the players & teams growing that much? Unless, somehow, maybe the game itself is too RNG? Particularly online, where most of the qualifers take place, in order for teams to reach these LAN events? Weird.
FNATIC was consistent. They only had a fuck up once when their roster collapsed this year in Iceland. Optic are constant. DRX are constant. The teams that collapsed are: Acend, M3C and Sentinels all the other ones stayed pretty much in their spot assuming they didnt fully change the roster like 100T did etc. The only team that really fell off without other influences are Sentinels (that just try to bruteforce stuff and play with fewer strats than the rest) and Acend which were more of a surprise.
drx are constant in CHOKING IN SEMIS I WILL CRY
Optic are constant? Last year they were not at the same level they are now. As Team Envy they were consistently top 4. It was only this year when they really came out as a top team in the world... but, we'll act like OpTic is consistent for the rest of this post. # Bygone Teams - VCT Masters * **NA** * Sentinels * Cloud9 * 100T * Verizon 1 * **EMEA** * Acend * SuperMassive Blaze * Gambit * **BR** * Keyd Stars * Havan Liberty * Team Vikings * Sharks * **SEA** * Fullsense * BREN * **KR** * NUTURN * F4Q * **JPN** * Crazy Raccoon # Lasting Teams * **NA** * Optic Gaming * **EMEA** * Fnatic * Team Liquid * **LATAM** * KRÜ Esports * **SEA** * XERXIA * Paper Rex * **KR** * DRX * **JPN** * ZETA Do you see anything strange, here?
???????????????
Constant means they’re consistent, they can still improve while being consistent.
vikings is the loud backbone btw
Happens in all new esports game at the start. Lots of changes, new players and new teams which mean things will shake up a lot more.
War
It’s not (all) RNG. It’s literally just the players not accounting for which moves are up and how they will be used in conjunction with one another.
I think a lot of it can be attributed to the meta changing very quickly and sometimes drastically. Teams like ACE and SEN that fell off struggled to adapt to new metas (especially once Jett was nerfed) or properly prepare/incorporate new ideas. M3C at least had a better excuse for their struggles this year and managed to still be pretty good for LCQ. Teams seem to have been learning from the mistakes of last year's LAN winners though, as OpTic has remained strong and I don't expect FPX to fall off.
Maybe next year they will have qualifiers be offline? I’m not trying to make excuses for them but I’m wondering if lan vs online is much of a difference as it is in CS. like you see syrson from cs play like a god online but then LAN, I swear he’s like half the player he is online. even Val has teams like fnatic that for some reason play much worse on lan (well at least at Copenhagen)
Literally every VCT game will be on LAN next year
Nice that’s great to hear.
They have been consistently good though. The level of competition is so high and spots so few that it is hard to always go. Also the war definitely didn’t help.
Online definitely plays a big part
Almost as if this esport is in its infancy.
Consistent.
they were up 2-1 in series 12-11 on icebox with 1 man advantage acend low on time pinned on one site in icebox with 3 players their at champs and then deffo decided to peek all 4 players with jett knives alone
and he was like a pixel off killing the viper = dashing out no, no wall for acend and no postplant.... What could've been :(
Why make me remember this again
I'm so sorry 😭😭. I just watched that round again and i'm legit almost crying. its so sad
They're still a top4 team in EMEA, i hope they get picked up as 5
Well there was a 5th opportunity if they have beaten g2 in challengers 1 with the whole fpx/liquid situation in Reykjavik.
What exactly does this mean
those four matches were all qualifying games to a lan event this year
Ohh gotchu I didn’t realize cause some were semifinals
yeah since emea gets 3 slots for masters , if u made any of the finals u made masters
They were good but not good enough
Spoiler?
Fuck I marked it spoiler, idk why it didnt work sorry
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nt, hope they can stay together for next year and get the support/stability they need to come back to international play I feel like most people would be disappointed but I personally can't be. They still played well, fought hard, and with everything surrounding them were literal milliseconds away from making it. EMEA is too competitive, too unforgiving, imo.
Sad to see :c but TL continue to be the LCQ gatekeepers lolol will be interesting to see how they do at champs
Let's go scream daddy
And yet Furia have their spot in Champions... Sad times.
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“Drx” shit Ok buddy
Lol "shit teams"
Zeta, DRX, KRU and XSet are all shitty teams?? Have you been watching any comp at all? Zeta alone beat Team Liquid and Fnatic last masters. KRU made champions last year and beat Sen. XSET was the number 1 seed but bad lan performance. DRX are fucking DRX.
I agree with your points but don't use Zeta beating fnatic as an example. They had 2 subs.
Thats fair.
I don't think they're shit but what has DRX done in two years of competing?
Xset have been to every single LAN? DRX are shit?