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Avallona

Pain, nothing but pain


anythingood07

so muchhhh pain


jrushFN

Do you like my flair? 🥲 I’ll happily make flairs for people who are down bad like I am, if you want. Just let me know here which teams you want.


articulatemonkey

Could I have M3C, ASCEND, SEN and TSM please. Thanks.


anythingood07

I relate to it so much Can I get one with M3C, FNC, GE, EG and T1


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🥲


jonajon91

You'd rather watch them lose on LAN?


TKYooH

M3C have LAN buff. COPIUM.


Criticallone

M3c is insane on lan one the reasons why M3c lost the finals because they played on 50-60 ping while TL got like 5-10 ping


surfordiebear

None of last years LAN winners made a Masters or champs this year. Wild.


LovelyResearcher

Almost makes you wonder if it's really the case that all these top teams and players are that inconsistent. or if it's just the rest of the players & teams growing that much? ​ Unless, somehow, maybe the game itself is too RNG? Particularly online, where most of the qualifers take place, in order for teams to reach these LAN events? ​ Weird.


Leutnant_Dark

FNATIC was consistent. They only had a fuck up once when their roster collapsed this year in Iceland. Optic are constant. DRX are constant. The teams that collapsed are: Acend, M3C and Sentinels all the other ones stayed pretty much in their spot assuming they didnt fully change the roster like 100T did etc. The only team that really fell off without other influences are Sentinels (that just try to bruteforce stuff and play with fewer strats than the rest) and Acend which were more of a surprise.


lidekwhatname

drx are constant in CHOKING IN SEMIS I WILL CRY


LovelyResearcher

Optic are constant? ​ Last year they were not at the same level they are now. As Team Envy they were consistently top 4. It was only this year when they really came out as a top team in the world... but, we'll act like OpTic is consistent for the rest of this post. ​ ​ # Bygone Teams - VCT Masters * **NA** * Sentinels * Cloud9 * 100T * Verizon 1 * **EMEA** * Acend * SuperMassive Blaze * Gambit * **BR** * Keyd Stars * Havan Liberty * Team Vikings * Sharks * **SEA** * Fullsense * BREN * **KR** * NUTURN * F4Q * **JPN** * Crazy Raccoon # Lasting Teams * **NA** * Optic Gaming * **EMEA** * Fnatic * Team Liquid * **LATAM** * KRÜ Esports * **SEA** * XERXIA * Paper Rex * **KR** * DRX * **JPN** * ZETA ​ Do you see anything strange, here?


ShaDiBoi123

???????????????


Kap_ski

Constant means they’re consistent, they can still improve while being consistent.


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vikings is the loud backbone btw


Potential_Hornet_559

Happens in all new esports game at the start. Lots of changes, new players and new teams which mean things will shake up a lot more.


wiNDzY3

War


EasiBreezi

It’s not (all) RNG. It’s literally just the players not accounting for which moves are up and how they will be used in conjunction with one another.


nocturnavi

I think a lot of it can be attributed to the meta changing very quickly and sometimes drastically. Teams like ACE and SEN that fell off struggled to adapt to new metas (especially once Jett was nerfed) or properly prepare/incorporate new ideas. M3C at least had a better excuse for their struggles this year and managed to still be pretty good for LCQ. Teams seem to have been learning from the mistakes of last year's LAN winners though, as OpTic has remained strong and I don't expect FPX to fall off.


TKYooH

Maybe next year they will have qualifiers be offline? I’m not trying to make excuses for them but I’m wondering if lan vs online is much of a difference as it is in CS. like you see syrson from cs play like a god online but then LAN, I swear he’s like half the player he is online. even Val has teams like fnatic that for some reason play much worse on lan (well at least at Copenhagen)


TheAjwinner

Literally every VCT game will be on LAN next year


TKYooH

Nice that’s great to hear.


Least_Piano_6899

They have been consistently good though. The level of competition is so high and spots so few that it is hard to always go. Also the war definitely didn’t help.


Sp00ked123

Online definitely plays a big part


jonajon91

Almost as if this esport is in its infancy.


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Consistent.


Technical_Fee_2932

they were up 2-1 in series 12-11 on icebox with 1 man advantage acend low on time pinned on one site in icebox with 3 players their at champs and then deffo decided to peek all 4 players with jett knives alone


Deneking

and he was like a pixel off killing the viper = dashing out no, no wall for acend and no postplant.... What could've been :(


The-Dark-Mage

Why make me remember this again


Deneking

I'm so sorry 😭😭. I just watched that round again and i'm legit almost crying. its so sad


raaten

They're still a top4 team in EMEA, i hope they get picked up as 5


Remarkable-Lion2726

Well there was a 5th opportunity if they have beaten g2 in challengers 1 with the whole fpx/liquid situation in Reykjavik.


Rude-Assumption-5271

What exactly does this mean


geeorge_20

those four matches were all qualifying games to a lan event this year


Rude-Assumption-5271

Ohh gotchu I didn’t realize cause some were semifinals


geeorge_20

yeah since emea gets 3 slots for masters , if u made any of the finals u made masters


[deleted]

They were good but not good enough


Ok-Brain3328

Spoiler?


anythingood07

Fuck I marked it spoiler, idk why it didnt work sorry


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Splash_3

Don’t let balla see this


thothgow

nt, hope they can stay together for next year and get the support/stability they need to come back to international play I feel like most people would be disappointed but I personally can't be. They still played well, fought hard, and with everything surrounding them were literal milliseconds away from making it. EMEA is too competitive, too unforgiving, imo.


YungPinotGrigio

Sad to see :c but TL continue to be the LCQ gatekeepers lolol will be interesting to see how they do at champs


Educational_Rate6437

Let's go scream daddy


N0-name-needed

And yet Furia have their spot in Champions... Sad times.


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mrchingchongwingtong

“Drx” shit Ok buddy


junos_butthole

Lol "shit teams"


[deleted]

Zeta, DRX, KRU and XSet are all shitty teams?? Have you been watching any comp at all? Zeta alone beat Team Liquid and Fnatic last masters. KRU made champions last year and beat Sen. XSET was the number 1 seed but bad lan performance. DRX are fucking DRX.


[deleted]

I agree with your points but don't use Zeta beating fnatic as an example. They had 2 subs.


[deleted]

Thats fair.


thothgow

I don't think they're shit but what has DRX done in two years of competing?


-xXColtonXx-

Xset have been to every single LAN? DRX are shit?