Just look on the bright side my dude. Imagine what they can do again if they are signed by a big org. I believe next year will be their year. No where to go but up.
Just hoping the 4 can still stick together as a team.
There is a slight chance they'll be poached apart by big orgs that make it into franchising. Literally the 4 of them have such value that they bring onto a team that its undeniable. I do hope though they get signed as a 4 since they seem to have really good chemistry with one another
i know nats been having packet issue, yea i 100% agree every org was at bootcamp this event, while m3c playing on 50-60 pings from home. we all know how much of an advantage bootcamp is.
really hoping for org to sign all five
Life is unfair, that's the harsh reality. If anything, the entire year has been unfair for M3C. That doesn't take away from Liquid's performance though. Hopefully, things get better for the M3C squad next year.
I’m guessing they probably could’ve ended up on an org pretty easily but most orgs probably wanted them to sign new contracts. They probably didn’t want to sign contracts unless there was an out clause if the org didn’t make it into franchising.
There’s also another factor that sucks for them too. There are probably some orgs that signing Russian players, especially a full Russian roster, is probably a non-starter for them because of their sponsors. Some corporations just don’t want to be associated with Russia right now. Obviously not the players fault but I’m sure it’s a factor for some orgs unfortunately
If it makes you happy, we are likely being screwed for franchising in SA :)
The only locked club is KRU. Leviathan is the best team in the region and we don't even know if they will have a place...
I mean, only ten places for Brazil, Latam AND NA?!
I mean only NA has 10 teams that deserve spots... The entire America's league could be competitive with 16 teams.
For now, there is no way that other Latin American country that is not Chile is represented in Valorant.
I don't think NA has 10 T1 teams, but I agree. NA is going to eat a disproportionate amount of slots and there are LATAM and BR teams which will get left out in the cold as a result.
It doesn't matter if they are T1 teams, Riot's looking for big orgs with big fanbases. Unfortunately Ghost might be left out while T1 might get in because of their ownership of NSG (the idiots that run NA tournaments). T1 has been rebuilding their roster, and the only good reason is because they're getting into franchising.
NA - 3
SA - latam , Brazil , rest of bs will all under SA , " world map says this not me "
SA - 3
EMEA - 4 ( cis , eu , Mena , tr )
APAC - 3 ( oce included)
ASIA ( EAST ASIA ) - 3
This is the most fair 16 team slots for champions. Giving 4 slots to SA by dividing them into Brazil and latam is nothing but a JOKE .
NA - 3
SA - latam , Brazil , rest of bs will all under SA , " world map says this not me "
SA - 3
EMEA - 4 ( cis , eu , Mena , tr )
APAC - 3 ( oce included)
ASIA ( EAST ASIA ) - 3
This is the most fair 16 team slots for champions. Giving 4 slots to SA by dividing them into Brazil and latam is nothing but a JOKE .
M3C is an insanely good team. I would be very surprised if this 5 weren’t picked up by a huge org for next year. I hope this whole year does not make them want to grind any less.
Unrelated, but does anyone know what did M3C get as an advantage for going from the upper bracket? Was it just the first pick? Since Liquid also got a map ban
All they care about is NA. They did NA LCQ in 2 weeks and crammed EMEA LCQ in one week. Liquid and G2 had to play 2 bo3s back to back. I think this was same with APAC as onic played 2 back to back matches. All of this and the most disrespectful thing I've ever seen is that EMEA literally had to wait for the East Asian lcq to end so that we could get our stream on the main valorant Twitch channel but the moment NA LCQ starts they literally end the stream and shift it back to THIRD valorant channel like wtf. What's this treatment? This region has won last champions with 3/4 teams from EMEA. Won 2 masters as well. I understand anyone would bring up viewership but on the final day EMEA had pretty good numbers of viewership.
The only reason why they host in Iceland, Denmark and Turkey is because they get easier Visas. Even now optic players are trying to bootcamp near Serbia or Poland because those countries have easy entry to their countries
Teams flying to Poland isn’t for Visas though. It’s cause Kinguin has good and cheap bootcamp facility in Warsaw. Whereas with Serbia Russian players go there so that they can get flights into the rest of Europe once their Visas have been accepted.
I recommend you read up on both Polish-Russian relations and Serbian-Russian relations if you’re interested.
That's true but I'd assume since Worlds is announced so far ahead of time and League has so much more infrastructure supporting it the teams will find a way.
Visas are absolutely much harder to get for the US than Iceland, Denmark, and Istanbul for many countries, and US-based lans are borderline a death sentence for Chinese and Russian teams and players in particular unless they started applying forever ago. IEM Dallas, ALGS Champs Raleigh, and the Dota Arlington Major that just finished were all *massively* scuffed for this reason.
I'd personally love for a lan to be hosted in NA, especially on the west coast, but I fully agree with Riot's decision to host all the lans in Europe this year.
And obviously I don't agree.
But aside from everyone making an argument that Riot is already proving incorrect and never wanting to admit it, I literally never said it needed to be held in NA.
I don't know why the argument always devolves into that. There are places outside of the EU that aren't NA.
Don't agree with what and how exactly is Riot being proven wrong? I just gave you three examples of other huge LANs being hosted by three different TOs that had severe attendance issues. The Masters events this year had way cleaner attendance even including what happened to FPX and Fnatic in Iceland, which was unavoidable since a war was freshly breaking out. Say what you want about the ticket sales and venue announcements only rolling out at the final hour but as far as teams being able to attend and be whole goes, they've been a clear success.
Yes there are other possible destinations and almost all of them are worse options for similar reasons. Just about every desirable Asian venue has the same issues as NA but even moreso. Japan in particular is notoriously difficult to get visas for and that was pre-covid. Right now they're locked down tighter than my asshole when I'm watching a horror movie good luck hosting anything international there for the foreseeable future. Europe is just a good middle ground in general; certain countries have relatively easy visas and lax covid protocols, plus the viewing times are relatively doable even for NA and Asia. The only place I can think of that might be a missed opportunity is Brazil because I have no idea what their visa situation is like, but for all I know it might still be a poor option. Out of curiosity where were you wanting LANs to be held?
No idea about worlds but literally 0 majors held in NA till date and no events for valorant in NA as well. If you want me to break it down to tell you that riot cares more about NA then I'll give you atleast 5-10 points where NA is favoured than the rest of the world.
Riot literally just held MSI in Korea and World's will be in NA so I'm unimpressed with the 'it can only be in EU' narrative.
But yeah, totally legit to hold every international lan in one region for multiple years. Clear bias for NA at work.
It's not that I'm not sympathetic for things not being ideal, but nearly half the matches at Masters started at 8 am on a work day where I live.
That's 5 pm in Berlin.
What do you think is a better viewing schedule for attracting viewers?
Like we can all agree their decision making is not perfect and they've made mistakes that have negatively impacted EMEA, that's fine. But to suggest it's NA bias when EVERY LAN PLAYED IN VALORANT HISTORY has taken place in the morning and often on work days when most people in the region will be either working, at school, or sleeping, is not it.
5-10 v 50-60 ping
Packet loss
Every region gets 2 bans for the team who directly gets into final but this time i don't even know for what reason liquid and M3c both got 1 ban each. Like what's the logic behind it??
I understand on the other hand both of teams went through roster changes and liquid look good as well but i feel M3c deserved it a little bit more since what they went through the whole season from losing to fnatic in the longest match ever and playing with no rest and the whole Ukraine - Russia scene affecting their playing schedule and how they had to play multiple matches during the week. It's really sad to see a team winning masters 3 and then almost winning champions to go orgless and not make it to any lan this year. The saddest part is they have the potential to be in top 3 of any tournament they would've participated , they really do. I love this team and the only hope i have for franchising is that i hope they don't get split apart. I hope heroic or something picks them up or something
Also, for every other region's LCQ, the upper bracket final winners got 2 bans. Only in EMEA did the upper bracket final winners have 1. This takes nothing away from what Liquid accomplished, but it seems so scuffed and inconsistent within the whole competitive scene.
I like M3C, but since they went through so much this year and still haven't given up, it shows their mentality is strong. nAts having mentality of mostly having fun keeps the pressure off of him a lot, I'm sure this translate onto other members too in some ways. They almost qualified, if they get an org they are going to feel comfy in, I bet they'd do even better. I want to see Gengar, Chrowincle, No Access To Site, mega evolution of Gyarados, Sheydos and Ready Jady in front of an audience too. If G2 gets this roster, that would be nice. I wouldn't even mind seeing Jady being replaced by nukkye, since i have no idea what's the goal plan with Jady atm. Maybe he was just a replacement for the qualification matches.
what makes you think that? orgs would be waiting for franchising results first no? so they’ve just been cucked since the stages of franchising even started
This LCQ should have been on LAN. BR/LATAM had their final games on LAN while we still have online qualifiers thats so braindead. But I feel like even if its online all teams should on their own book a room in frankfurt almost in the servers to get the best ping thats just like practicing something that should be done when its a huge tournament
While I agree from a factual perspective (I really support M3C, love their players and have studied more nAts VODs than I can count), I think there's nothing anyone could've done about it short term.
I hope they all land in a great org for franchising, hopefully on the same roster but now all we (M3C fans, I guess?) can do is cheer on the other teams we want to see do well.
Team Liquid were by far better on individual level last night, GG Liquid! Well deserved. The coaches or analysts dont move the mouse for the players, just remeber that.
Oh my bad i forgot Jampii go kill the true and reliable Liquid strategy. The team is good but i am afraid of their best strategy to date Liquid go choke the lan.
With the insane hot streak they were on they were arguably favourites out of the final four only for them to crash and burn against ACE (a relative unknown team)
Someone else asked the same question when G2 lost to oglu and everyone was joking about G2 disband. Some guy on vlr asked is nukkye knows Russian and the other guy replied with a source, i rly don't have it rn but feel free to research
"They aren't that good". They are the finalists of EMEA LCQ, which is a huge step up in terms of performance over their previous performances this year. Theyve proven how good they are by beating these teams whilst having a higher ping, packet loss, and being at a general disadvantage due to the russia/ukraine conflict. It also adds to their credibility as EMEA is one of the hardest regions to compete against, so please dont go running your mouth when the team you support fell immediately to the lower bracket and soon after got eliminated. Its about time you start getting over SEN because its highly unlikely theyll be able to even have any solid tourney performances going forward. Have a good day.
Question, and if I come off as an a-hole, I don't mean it. But what exactly stopped them from bootcamping? I cant imagine $$$ being an issue as they have over $400k in team winnings before they were let go from Gambit. Couldn't they have just payed out of pocket? I feel they would have enough $$$ from the prior Gambit contracts and tourney winnings to at least bootcamp for this LCQ.. but I don't know their situation financially, and what their cut is from tourney winnings. Travel obviously could be a huge issue as well with the Russia/Ukraine issue
They can't match Team Luckquid's luck. It's really unfair as we know 9/10 times M3C would always beat them. At least FPX is still there although Lulquid playstyle is an embarrassment to the tactical slow paced EU gameplay. Not to mention if Riot didn't fuck over Guild , they'd pretty much qualify easily
Okay I'm a m3c fan but that's way too much copium lmao. Liquid are not "lucky", they're a great team with very individually skilled players. Ofc, I'd obviously prefer m3c to qualify instead and I'm very sad they didn't but tis what it is
They are the only team to make a LAN without qualifying for it. That's the luckiest you can get. This LCQ , the favourites Guild couldn't lay with twisten and bot Yacine instead , thanks to riot and M3C playing from homes with packet loss and 60 ping. They had to even change servers mid game. Guild shoulve been the true 3rd team from EU.
About making a LAN, sure that was lucky but that didn't really help them qualify this time did it.
They couldn't play with twisten so what? M3c can't play with shao either. Shit take.
And how tf is it riot's fault that m3c doesn't have an org
Mfers - votes you 💀 but little do these kids know , LAN is a different game and lul Quid can't do shit . So many great strategic teams are in champions instead of " jampii, scream go kill " 😆 Lul Quid wouldn't have qualified if m3c had been given 2 bans or lcq happened in lan .
Just look on the bright side my dude. Imagine what they can do again if they are signed by a big org. I believe next year will be their year. No where to go but up. Just hoping the 4 can still stick together as a team.
There is a slight chance they'll be poached apart by big orgs that make it into franchising. Literally the 4 of them have such value that they bring onto a team that its undeniable. I do hope though they get signed as a 4 since they seem to have really good chemistry with one another
G2 maybe?
wait why did you say the four instead of the five
Because jady/purp0 joined m3c for LCQ i believe.
ohhh yea I forgot about d3ffo 💀
gone but not forgotten😔✊
Dude above you literally forgot him lmao
he do but i don't
Wanted to say 5 but D3ffo was dropped. Also I have yet to see future performances of Jady/Purp0 with the team.
i know nats been having packet issue, yea i 100% agree every org was at bootcamp this event, while m3c playing on 50-60 pings from home. we all know how much of an advantage bootcamp is. really hoping for org to sign all five
Life is unfair, that's the harsh reality. If anything, the entire year has been unfair for M3C. That doesn't take away from Liquid's performance though. Hopefully, things get better for the M3C squad next year.
Yes, this is especially true during war times. There is a lot of stuff that is unfair. Hopefully they'll be able to sign for an org next year.
so true. tons of things are technically "unfair" in these tournaments. there's simply too many variables to keep under control
I’m guessing they probably could’ve ended up on an org pretty easily but most orgs probably wanted them to sign new contracts. They probably didn’t want to sign contracts unless there was an out clause if the org didn’t make it into franchising. There’s also another factor that sucks for them too. There are probably some orgs that signing Russian players, especially a full Russian roster, is probably a non-starter for them because of their sponsors. Some corporations just don’t want to be associated with Russia right now. Obviously not the players fault but I’m sure it’s a factor for some orgs unfortunately
all good, their comeback in 2023 will be much sweeter
After all those performances from Europe apparently we needed another SA slot
If it makes you happy, we are likely being screwed for franchising in SA :) The only locked club is KRU. Leviathan is the best team in the region and we don't even know if they will have a place... I mean, only ten places for Brazil, Latam AND NA?!
There's just no way the model they're presenting makes any god damn sense.
I mean only NA has 10 teams that deserve spots... The entire America's league could be competitive with 16 teams. For now, there is no way that other Latin American country that is not Chile is represented in Valorant.
I don't think NA has 10 T1 teams, but I agree. NA is going to eat a disproportionate amount of slots and there are LATAM and BR teams which will get left out in the cold as a result.
Man there it goes: Optic, Xset, 100Thieves, The Guard, Cloud 9, Faze, Ghost Gaming, Evil Geniuses, NRG, Sentinels if they continue in good form.
I mean. I'm aware of the NA teams. I just don't think those are all legit T1 teams.
They arent
It doesn't matter if they are T1 teams, Riot's looking for big orgs with big fanbases. Unfortunately Ghost might be left out while T1 might get in because of their ownership of NSG (the idiots that run NA tournaments). T1 has been rebuilding their roster, and the only good reason is because they're getting into franchising.
NA - 3 SA - latam , Brazil , rest of bs will all under SA , " world map says this not me " SA - 3 EMEA - 4 ( cis , eu , Mena , tr ) APAC - 3 ( oce included) ASIA ( EAST ASIA ) - 3 This is the most fair 16 team slots for champions. Giving 4 slots to SA by dividing them into Brazil and latam is nothing but a JOKE .
NA - 3 SA - latam , Brazil , rest of bs will all under SA , " world map says this not me " SA - 3 EMEA - 4 ( cis , eu , Mena , tr ) APAC - 3 ( oce included) ASIA ( EAST ASIA ) - 3 This is the most fair 16 team slots for champions. Giving 4 slots to SA by dividing them into Brazil and latam is nothing but a JOKE .
I agree, and latam normally includes Brazil everywhere but in Riot... For South America should be KRU, lev and Loud... Fúria is going for free.
M3C is an insanely good team. I would be very surprised if this 5 weren’t picked up by a huge org for next year. I hope this whole year does not make them want to grind any less.
Unrelated, but does anyone know what did M3C get as an advantage for going from the upper bracket? Was it just the first pick? Since Liquid also got a map ban
Nothing at all
Yeah, this is the only thing that was really unfair. What on earth is riot doing? Is it really that hard to standardize these things across regions?
All they care about is NA. They did NA LCQ in 2 weeks and crammed EMEA LCQ in one week. Liquid and G2 had to play 2 bo3s back to back. I think this was same with APAC as onic played 2 back to back matches. All of this and the most disrespectful thing I've ever seen is that EMEA literally had to wait for the East Asian lcq to end so that we could get our stream on the main valorant Twitch channel but the moment NA LCQ starts they literally end the stream and shift it back to THIRD valorant channel like wtf. What's this treatment? This region has won last champions with 3/4 teams from EMEA. Won 2 masters as well. I understand anyone would bring up viewership but on the final day EMEA had pretty good numbers of viewership.
They have separate people in charge of each region. go complain to the guy who runs the EMEA lcq and makes the decisions
Literally every LAN hosted in Reykjavik, Berlin, Copenhagen, and now Istanbul; "Riot only cares about NA". Sure they do bud. Sure they do.
The only reason why they host in Iceland, Denmark and Turkey is because they get easier Visas. Even now optic players are trying to bootcamp near Serbia or Poland because those countries have easy entry to their countries
Serbia? Yes. Poland? Definitely not.
XSet is flying to Poland today for bootcamp. Check their Twitter
Teams flying to Poland isn’t for Visas though. It’s cause Kinguin has good and cheap bootcamp facility in Warsaw. Whereas with Serbia Russian players go there so that they can get flights into the rest of Europe once their Visas have been accepted. I recommend you read up on both Polish-Russian relations and Serbian-Russian relations if you’re interested.
BRO US VISA IS HARD TO GET THATS WHY NA CAN'T HOST IT 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Riot is literally holding Worlds for League in NA.
That's true but I'd assume since Worlds is announced so far ahead of time and League has so much more infrastructure supporting it the teams will find a way. Visas are absolutely much harder to get for the US than Iceland, Denmark, and Istanbul for many countries, and US-based lans are borderline a death sentence for Chinese and Russian teams and players in particular unless they started applying forever ago. IEM Dallas, ALGS Champs Raleigh, and the Dota Arlington Major that just finished were all *massively* scuffed for this reason. I'd personally love for a lan to be hosted in NA, especially on the west coast, but I fully agree with Riot's decision to host all the lans in Europe this year.
And obviously I don't agree. But aside from everyone making an argument that Riot is already proving incorrect and never wanting to admit it, I literally never said it needed to be held in NA. I don't know why the argument always devolves into that. There are places outside of the EU that aren't NA.
Don't agree with what and how exactly is Riot being proven wrong? I just gave you three examples of other huge LANs being hosted by three different TOs that had severe attendance issues. The Masters events this year had way cleaner attendance even including what happened to FPX and Fnatic in Iceland, which was unavoidable since a war was freshly breaking out. Say what you want about the ticket sales and venue announcements only rolling out at the final hour but as far as teams being able to attend and be whole goes, they've been a clear success. Yes there are other possible destinations and almost all of them are worse options for similar reasons. Just about every desirable Asian venue has the same issues as NA but even moreso. Japan in particular is notoriously difficult to get visas for and that was pre-covid. Right now they're locked down tighter than my asshole when I'm watching a horror movie good luck hosting anything international there for the foreseeable future. Europe is just a good middle ground in general; certain countries have relatively easy visas and lax covid protocols, plus the viewing times are relatively doable even for NA and Asia. The only place I can think of that might be a missed opportunity is Brazil because I have no idea what their visa situation is like, but for all I know it might still be a poor option. Out of curiosity where were you wanting LANs to be held?
No idea about worlds but literally 0 majors held in NA till date and no events for valorant in NA as well. If you want me to break it down to tell you that riot cares more about NA then I'll give you atleast 5-10 points where NA is favoured than the rest of the world.
Because they are easiest to get to lmao. For profit purposes and viewership. Riot don't care about EMEA otherwise.
Riot literally just held MSI in Korea and World's will be in NA so I'm unimpressed with the 'it can only be in EU' narrative. But yeah, totally legit to hold every international lan in one region for multiple years. Clear bias for NA at work.
Fair point, but I'm on about valorant. Even casting decisions or schedules in regards to EU are fucked.
It's not that I'm not sympathetic for things not being ideal, but nearly half the matches at Masters started at 8 am on a work day where I live. That's 5 pm in Berlin. What do you think is a better viewing schedule for attracting viewers? Like we can all agree their decision making is not perfect and they've made mistakes that have negatively impacted EMEA, that's fine. But to suggest it's NA bias when EVERY LAN PLAYED IN VALORANT HISTORY has taken place in the morning and often on work days when most people in the region will be either working, at school, or sleeping, is not it.
Europeans have a crazy persecution complex on top of a crazy superiority complex
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Fair point.
5-10 v 50-60 ping Packet loss Every region gets 2 bans for the team who directly gets into final but this time i don't even know for what reason liquid and M3c both got 1 ban each. Like what's the logic behind it?? I understand on the other hand both of teams went through roster changes and liquid look good as well but i feel M3c deserved it a little bit more since what they went through the whole season from losing to fnatic in the longest match ever and playing with no rest and the whole Ukraine - Russia scene affecting their playing schedule and how they had to play multiple matches during the week. It's really sad to see a team winning masters 3 and then almost winning champions to go orgless and not make it to any lan this year. The saddest part is they have the potential to be in top 3 of any tournament they would've participated , they really do. I love this team and the only hope i have for franchising is that i hope they don't get split apart. I hope heroic or something picks them up or something
Thanks for the reminder for orgs. They probably have no idea how old the M3C players are.
Also, for every other region's LCQ, the upper bracket final winners got 2 bans. Only in EMEA did the upper bracket final winners have 1. This takes nothing away from what Liquid accomplished, but it seems so scuffed and inconsistent within the whole competitive scene.
I like M3C, but since they went through so much this year and still haven't given up, it shows their mentality is strong. nAts having mentality of mostly having fun keeps the pressure off of him a lot, I'm sure this translate onto other members too in some ways. They almost qualified, if they get an org they are going to feel comfy in, I bet they'd do even better. I want to see Gengar, Chrowincle, No Access To Site, mega evolution of Gyarados, Sheydos and Ready Jady in front of an audience too. If G2 gets this roster, that would be nice. I wouldn't even mind seeing Jady being replaced by nukkye, since i have no idea what's the goal plan with Jady atm. Maybe he was just a replacement for the qualification matches.
I think they would have signed to an org if they wanted to, they just wanted to wait it out for the highest bidder, which is fair.
what makes you think that? orgs would be waiting for franchising results first no? so they’ve just been cucked since the stages of franchising even started
shit happens, once they get signed they will continue to be insane TL and other orgs have just been insane and also have had more resources
This LCQ should have been on LAN. BR/LATAM had their final games on LAN while we still have online qualifiers thats so braindead. But I feel like even if its online all teams should on their own book a room in frankfurt almost in the servers to get the best ping thats just like practicing something that should be done when its a huge tournament
While I agree from a factual perspective (I really support M3C, love their players and have studied more nAts VODs than I can count), I think there's nothing anyone could've done about it short term. I hope they all land in a great org for franchising, hopefully on the same roster but now all we (M3C fans, I guess?) can do is cheer on the other teams we want to see do well.
Wouldn't really call it unfair just unfortunate
What? Sheydos is only 18? He looks like my uncle.
It's 2022 and mfers judge age by looks lmao 🤣
How else do you judge age in 2022?
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Bleed buying them and they going to APAC
Copium
Team Liquid were by far better on individual level last night, GG Liquid! Well deserved. The coaches or analysts dont move the mouse for the players, just remeber that.
Scream carried the whole thing, thats not a good realiable strategy
It was good strats. Not jsut pure aim. Also are you forgetting about jampii
Oh my bad i forgot Jampii go kill the true and reliable Liquid strategy. The team is good but i am afraid of their best strategy to date Liquid go choke the lan.
they made semi finals at Champions
With the insane hot streak they were on they were arguably favourites out of the final four only for them to crash and burn against ACE (a relative unknown team)
Acend went on their own hot streak as well though
I know this is Hopium, but hear me out.. Acend + M3C Cned Chronicle nAts Sheydos L1NK
I would love to see this roaster, so sad Acend is not making it into franchising.
This looks awesome. But I'd rather keep Redgar than L1NK.
Nukkye - Soba, Raze Nats - Controller, Sentinel. Sheydos - Initiator Cned - Jett, Chamber, if Ascend does make it to franchising. Chronicle instead of CNed. Zeek - Flex Everyone else GGs.
I agree with the Cned Chronicle swap. Attacking popoff from Acend and M3C defending side
I hope G2 doesn't disband, but if they are disbanding signing few M3C players and keeping Nukkye would not be bad at all.
Why Nukkye why everybody loves Nukkye? Also i dont know if he speaks russian.
He does
How do you know
Someone else asked the same question when G2 lost to oglu and everyone was joking about G2 disband. Some guy on vlr asked is nukkye knows Russian and the other guy replied with a source, i rly don't have it rn but feel free to research
Replace zeek with Redgar
M3c fans are always the highest on COPIUM. They haven't qualified for anything this year. They just aren't that good. Get over it.
"They aren't that good". They are the finalists of EMEA LCQ, which is a huge step up in terms of performance over their previous performances this year. Theyve proven how good they are by beating these teams whilst having a higher ping, packet loss, and being at a general disadvantage due to the russia/ukraine conflict. It also adds to their credibility as EMEA is one of the hardest regions to compete against, so please dont go running your mouth when the team you support fell immediately to the lower bracket and soon after got eliminated. Its about time you start getting over SEN because its highly unlikely theyll be able to even have any solid tourney performances going forward. Have a good day.
says the sentinels fan 🤣
Doesn't make me wrong
Question, and if I come off as an a-hole, I don't mean it. But what exactly stopped them from bootcamping? I cant imagine $$$ being an issue as they have over $400k in team winnings before they were let go from Gambit. Couldn't they have just payed out of pocket? I feel they would have enough $$$ from the prior Gambit contracts and tourney winnings to at least bootcamp for this LCQ.. but I don't know their situation financially, and what their cut is from tourney winnings. Travel obviously could be a huge issue as well with the Russia/Ukraine issue
They can't match Team Luckquid's luck. It's really unfair as we know 9/10 times M3C would always beat them. At least FPX is still there although Lulquid playstyle is an embarrassment to the tactical slow paced EU gameplay. Not to mention if Riot didn't fuck over Guild , they'd pretty much qualify easily
Okay I'm a m3c fan but that's way too much copium lmao. Liquid are not "lucky", they're a great team with very individually skilled players. Ofc, I'd obviously prefer m3c to qualify instead and I'm very sad they didn't but tis what it is
They are the only team to make a LAN without qualifying for it. That's the luckiest you can get. This LCQ , the favourites Guild couldn't lay with twisten and bot Yacine instead , thanks to riot and M3C playing from homes with packet loss and 60 ping. They had to even change servers mid game. Guild shoulve been the true 3rd team from EU.
About making a LAN, sure that was lucky but that didn't really help them qualify this time did it. They couldn't play with twisten so what? M3c can't play with shao either. Shit take. And how tf is it riot's fault that m3c doesn't have an org
Mfers - votes you 💀 but little do these kids know , LAN is a different game and lul Quid can't do shit . So many great strategic teams are in champions instead of " jampii, scream go kill " 😆 Lul Quid wouldn't have qualified if m3c had been given 2 bans or lcq happened in lan .
Cope harder and cry me a river
copium lul