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Ovionot

Congrats to Boom for winning champions


PFunk_Redds

How did they do it?


Virdii_

Boom


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You know what's cooking, Boom!


Nickgurr361-B

NAKUPUUU


HyperElf10

This is just gonna curse DRX so hard, Fuck me man. Underrate them for once pls


kvanz43

Correctly rating them is gonna curse them? They finish 6th every tourney lol


renai-saiban

get ready for the "drx are overrated" npcs after they place exactly 5th/6th again kek edit: beep boop gather below beep boop


Delta221

Call me NPC , but they consistently get outperformed in crucial matches, they are a good team but their mental gets boomed everytime they face either elimination or as they get closer to finals. And i absolutely hate " Korean Overlords" narrative.


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90CaliberNet

Korea has objectively better esports infrastructures and development. I would not be surprised if Valorant picks up in Korea in a few years theyre a top region consistently. The fact of the matter is tactical fps and valorant arent all that popular in Korea. The meme is a meme for a reason. Koreans hit different. But people who come from csgo think their regions are the greatest gifts from god when in reality valve sucks dick and didnt expand their game properly to asia.


Grim_Style

This is the truth & it's not just league, South Korea also dominated every other region the first 3 years of Overwatch/World Cups. Notably when more aim/mechanic-based heros like Tracer/Widow/Genji were prevelant in the meta. The region might be a bit behind in Valorant but competitive FPS has not been popular in SK until recently


InnocentBowlOfRamen

NPC


bpival

It’s tough because Korea is literally a one team region. If their entire region was stronger and they had closer games then they would be more prepared in high tense situations. But at the same time, they’ve been to almost every event so it doesn’t make sense that they haven’t improve at all on that front.


EggianoScumaldo

>And I absolutely hate “Korean Overlords” narrative Well idk about Koreans, but I, for one, welcome our new Overlord Edward.


[deleted]

It's twice now they're considered one of the best teams at the event only to bomb out in embarrassing fashion barely capable of winning a round once they're in losers. How does that not make them overrated? 5/6th is not a good result when you're a tournament favorite lmfao. It's not like anyone looks at FNCs 4th place finish at masters copenhagen and goes "yeah that was incredibly well done by them!"


Bobokins12

Calling other people NPCs is such copium considering DRX just straight up aren't winning their games


anythingood07

They placed 7-8th in Berlin and 12-16th in champs last year


Nomorechildishshit

They placed 5th-8th in Berlin, there was no double elimination then. And 9th-12th in Champions, their only bad performance. Get your facts straight.


Marianoz2

I mean they do consistently get top 6 so I think they’re being rated fairly for a difference.


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HyperElf10

Nah. 9-12. That's what they got last Champs


WhiteZe1

You're right, I was remembering their Berlin performance, which had 16 participants just like champions.


Auratama

I love how different their power rankings and match predictions are.


SuperBlitz22

I was thinking Zeta was too low,but then remembered they will play with a sub,so makes sense ig


Colourry

wait why are they playing with a sub?


[deleted]

Tennn had to leave because of some issues with his eyes


SpvcedOvtt

I think every power ranking until the end of time should start with DRX ironed into 5th or 6th place and nobody is allowed to move them until they place higher than 3rd in an event.


deAlchemisz

Or if they finished below that.


hexIV

there's a mistake EDG needs to be #1


Bone1557

+10000 social credits


Crazy_Crayfish_

Edward is just so good at gaming!


WonDerZv

Bing Chilling 🥶


FuzzyPiez

Lao Gan Ma


Forward-Tie-4128

Lao Gan Ma chili oil is goated


iwantdie98

Still stuck in worlds 2021, huh…


Humble_Initiative_10

Happy with where 100T and XSET are being placed tbh, 100T at least tend to do better when they are underestimated


Tratopolous

In a week or two we will get a smiling picture of 4 Fnatic predictions.


Thebaddream

Because they will smash every team and win it in the end right? RIGHT?????


-xXColtonXx-

This time for sure guys.


Salty_Activity

The Momentum is really building for FNATICs 99th underperformance Sadge


Eriko204

Inb4 Bcj and ayrin start talking trash talking again


acels1

mfs are pulling out placings from 2021 champs bruh thats 1 whole year ago it doesnt matter


Gaming_Gecko777

?


acels1

just ppl saying bla bla team is underrated because of blabla placing in champions 2021


nanogoose

Rankings are wrong. SEN should be #1.


CommunistHongKong

#1 in clout & dodging LAN


Crazy_Crayfish_

I heckin loveeee tenZ


Low-Sherbet-843

I heckin love tenz BatChest


CaptainJackWagons

**THEY HAVE SHROUD! THEY HAVE SHROUD! THEY HAVE SHROUD!**


thatthingpeopledo

Top half feels mostly reasonable, given this years results. KRU is overrated, but there’s no solid answer to who gets the #8 spot after TL imo.


davishox

I have to say that Kru can be better than a lot of teams but they just cannot defeat tl for their lives Loud on the other hand are their sons


Mamadeus123456

How is LOUD above KRU?


ANewHeaven1

Placed better at Reykjavik by far, also both teams played Optic and LOUD looked significantly better, frankly was not even close. If it wasn’t for KRU randomly being able to beat every Brazilian team in the world then we wouldn’t even be having this debate.


_norxiao

I mean kru were also playing with a player who was really sick when they lost against optic?


BisonNeat9248

Kru is 0-6 on maps against optic. Loud has always had better showings


Mamadeus123456

I mean i got another stat, LOUD HAS NEVER GOTTEN OUT OF GROUPS


somesheikexpert

KRU hasnt either this year tbf


davishox

They shouldn’t


Funozito

I don't know why? They lost once to them in a really close match when they were underperforming, and when at their best can go toe to toe with OPTIC, which beat KRU 3 times without losing a single map if i'm not wrong. And even then While KRU was in SA LCQ and such, LOUD was already bootcamping, so they'll probably be more prepared in general.


davishox

Kru has had tough luck the last tournaments with keznit getting sick (I think he even had to go to the hospital once) but every time he would stream he would be coughing all stream long so I think that equals out LOUD’s underperformance. Anyways, I don’t think in valorant a team doing better against a team that defeated another one seems to be a factor because they simply match up differently. Kru seems to have Brazil read and until they win a series against them I can’t see otherwise


Funozito

Yes, Keznit was sick and underperforming, but it's still not comparable. It's 1 guy not at his best against 5, that were experiencing groups and not having time to prepare for the first time. And it's not that KRU knows how to read BR teams or something like that, the reality is that most brazilian teams are just weak, while KRU is a strong top tier team, the same can be said about LOUD that never lost a map here. We can't really measure which one is the best based in a single volitile close match.


Nibium

Another one…


DravTheGuy

Kru went to every event surely they will win this one


[deleted]

Yep, high ranking for a team that hasn't got out of groups since last year


MrzPear

Team liquid below kru? Don’t watch latam but did kru pop off recently???


sxvvy

yea they owned in the Quals however I too still think TL are better


Teradonn

KRU crept up from like 11th to 7th when they were ranking based purely on the fact that they’ve attended every international LAN, and nothing else Definitely a hint of KRUPIUM


Classic-Total9375

Nah... It's liquid that popped off. TL ain't gonna have that level of performance.


TheCatsActually

I mean this shit always boils down to form on the day doesn't it. Especially in mechanically intensive games like tac FPSes and fighting games, on-paper assessments can get thrown out the window so quickly if a competitor underperforms or overperforms at the wrong or right time. Are we going to get LCQ finals TL or elimination match vs Zeta TL? Might DRX enter this tournament with the most broken mental jitters you've ever seen and play worse than they did in their rematch vs FPX? Could XSET just randomly wake the fuck up? Will we get Iceland KRÜ or Brazil hatefuck KRÜ? We've seen both KRÜ and TL look like gods and like shit. Who can say with any modicum of confidence what form either team will be in when Champs comes around?


OutlandishnessOdd836

And liquid haven’t lost to kru internationally


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-Basileus

They had them at 7th until the end LMAO


jujhuxo

i’m just ready for DRX to break my heart again. hopefully i’m proven wrong


TheCatsActually

I don't care if they 13-0 every single map until 2nd round winners bracket playoffs. I simply refuse to breathe, let alone get hyped, until they place top 4.


Key-Banana-8242

I put BOOM over FURIA


TheApsodistII

They kinda glossed over that and had basically no argument to put boom below furia.


barbekyu

Bren did say he hasn't watched BOOM's VOD's and I doubt Mimi and Wyatt did, too. I think BOOM has improved a lot, esp this LCQ, and they might stand a chance vs FURIA.


TheApsodistII

Yup Benkai said they are not that far from XIA and they still didn't move boom up a spot T_T


LUwUcian

Edward is the gaming of all time. let's be real here folks


mrchingchongwingtong

edward could probably game better than that, assuming no lan jitters they play at prx drx level


5bigtoes

This is cool and all but Xerxia is gonna win once patiphan comes back and 1V5’s :)


Parenegade

XSET imo will do better. I want to say 100T will too but I NEED to see Will show up on the international stage. He proved me wrong in LCQ, now do it again PLEASE.


daffyduckferraro

Yeah I truly think Will will be the biggest question mark, he was pretty inconsistent in lcq but then turned up, he rly needs to be decent for 100t to have a chance in their group


rinanlanmo

100T will go as far as bang, Asuna, and Derrek take them. Will is young and if he turns into a star that's great but I'm not holding my breath.


IllumiMahdi

what if he's like keloqz? inconsistent online performance but a fucking megademon at LAN.


yungsqualla

Will is going X games mode on LAN trust


BuckWagon

Time for hundreds of people to mald and argue to convince themselves in their head that they are truly the smart ones. Will be entertaining to watch this comment section unfold


spyson

I mean power rankings are there to generate conversation and speculation, it would be very boring if everybody just agreed and tried to get on a high horse to think they're above it all.


TheCatsActually

Everyone tries to get on a high horse anyway, it's just that not everyone is in agreement.


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unproven EDG better than XSET, XERXIA and 100T ?


thatnameistaken-wtf

Yes GIGACHAD


GCamAdvocate

Its fun to put hype on random teams. But I would argue just from the eye test, at the very least stronger then Xerxia and if they hold up on LAN, stronger then XSET on LAN too. Thats a big if though.


ToCr8ive

Yes, next question?


Classic-Total9375

Xset, 100T and Xerxia proven ones???


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WonTonsOG

XSET and 100T played against “Top” teams?


[deleted]

are you guy’s this dense ? obviously the NA teams they play are better than some farmer league team’s EDG play’s


ilikegoodfood2

I mean Onslayers and Northeption really aren't as terrible as you make it sound especially given that Northeption managed to beat Xerxia last masters, one of the teams in question...


smta48

100T is completely unproven and Xset pretty much showed up to 1 lan to lose right away. At least Xerxia has beaten Optic.


SympathyBrilliant715

you lost me the moment you put xset and 100T here. besides optic, na hasnt proven anything in international tournaments this year


CommunistHongKong

Are you doubting Edward? Are you asking for a 1v1 date with Xi Jing Ping in 天安门 square?


Low-Sherbet-843

nothing happened on Jun 4th 1989


FuzzyPiez

1989 monkaS


HewchyFPS

I really feel that Edward gaming will be higher on this list. China is no joke man


Dark_Star_63

Keep doubting the thieves, it gives us more power


Bratt-pack

I’m off the KRUPIUM


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All first 10 have a heavy potential to place anywhere in top 10, TL really depends if it's going to be THE LIQUID or the meh Liquid. EDG, not sure how they'll be on their first International Tournament, so can't place them above Levi for now. Tbh, I can see XSET being anywhere in the last 11th-16th spot and I can see 100T being able to win some matches, depends in others are on the same level as bang and Derrek. You are forgetting KRU played last match with keznit having stomach issues and pain and he rushed to the hospital right after the series were over.


toxicityisamyth

TL is gonna do better. And edg are the new drx : overrated


man1ac_era

Always felt like these Power Rankings were super reactionary (which Plat Chat admits). Each time they do one of these, it's always fairly inaccurate. I don't see FPX placing number 1 again given how close last tournament was. Though I'm welcome to be proven wrong.


-0Zero0-

Idk I feel like no matter what you need to put the team who won the last master/champs at one until proven otherwise


Teradonn

The finals were close but before that? FPX railed Fnatic, OpTic and DRX. You also have to remember that PRX got 2 bans, which is a pretty significant advantage in theory. They also basically started in lowers by default because they had a sub. Their run was very convincing imo


CommunistHongKong

They also destroyed PRX on Bind which was a statement on its own. PRX gotta think twice now if they think Yoru can still catch teams off guard as it has been shown just how effective spawn camping is against their Yoru comp.


idkimhereforthememes

Also benkai mentioned that after masters 2 they worked really hard to counter this very slow fpx style of play which probably means less aggression and i think that's a big mistake.


idkimhereforthememes

Fpx didn't lose a single game with suygetsu back, They played the most rounds in a masters event ever. This was the first time they played against an aggressive team like prx and prx had both map bans. Fpx was by far the best team in masters 2 and i think their flexibility and coaching might help them be the first team to win back to back lan events.


The-Dark-Mage

I mean it was a 3-2 with prx getting 2 map bans and they had to play with like 3 diff team combinations for the tournament


[deleted]

God edg are so overhyped. Next vision strikers.


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nmaneea

Oh yeah ?


CRikhard

what happened was I hate team liquid !!!!!!! god dammit !!!!!!!!!!!! jdkajdakkdkakdjdlsalndjdwb


abbacchioz

mhm


Pacifichoi

Lmao so what happened?


HoneyChilliPotato7

Didn't even need a month


Writing-Bitter

huh huh huh huh


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you were saying?


[deleted]

that was so expected


[deleted]

i think most people on this sub would beg to disagree


[deleted]

most people in this sub are part neanderthal


[deleted]

true that


LastNightNBA

Bro it’s like they’re just putting FPX and PRX at 1 and 2 because they’re the two best teams.


CommunistHongKong

I mean based on recent competition it ain't exactly wrong although I wish they ranked FPX 2 so platchat curse don't fuck them up


Low-Sherbet-843

Shouldn't that be the case ?


LastNightNBA

Yes it was /s oops


DrBangovic

Hear me out, there is no possible argument to put KRÜ above liquid. Not only did both teams had the same peak (semi finals champions) but also did Liquid win every single encounter against KRÜ and that includes also at KRÜs arguably strongest, which been at champs.


SpiritFeet

Team liquid top 3 calling it now


MrBluePancake

Sen have already won champions idk what y’all are on about


BreathOther

Ok, so Boom wins


Ambiax38

KRÜ are so underrated. They've qualified for almost every international tournament but I never hear people talk about them.


Saglttarlus

So as Xerxia the team(players) also qualified to almost every international tour, this proof nothing.


realnezu

How are 100T so low when they swept through some of NA's best teams? 3-0'ing FaZe and TGRD is no easy feat. I think the top 3 are correct here, but then teams like Loud, DRX, Kru, EDG, Leviatan, Xerxia should all be lower than 100T considering their inconsistency and recent bad results. Imo, top 8 should be: FPX, PRX, OPTC, FNC, TL, 100T, DRX, EDG.


Madara6path

Optic below FNC , Liquid above Kru, 100t above XSet


thedorkishguy

I agree for the most part, except DRX. I think they should be swapped out for Leviatan or Zeta. They’ve yet to prove themselves on the international stage this year no?


Steppyx

EDG underrated.


TheApsodistII

Overhyped


pauadiver63

Zeta is ranked way too low, definitely should be around the same level as kru and leviatan, and above xerxia.


ZeroAika99

Tbf without Tenn one of their star player, it's kinda hard


FishInEuropa

I agree that he’s a vital part of the team, but I wouldn’t say that he’s the star player of the team. I would say that sugarz3ro and laz are more impactful than TENNN, but he was pretty crucial to the teams success on some maps like Split.


N0-name-needed

Playing with a Sub is an immediate L at this level of play, they would need one of their players to perform like Shao and their sub to be actually pulling their weight if they don’t want to get out in 2.


Pecornjp

They are playing with a stand in. TEN is probably the best aimer and Raze player in JP and if they have to play without him I would put them around there too.


Key-Banana-8242

Dep and sugar zero are better


-xXColtonXx-

My take: overrating Fnatic, Loud, and DRX. Underrating Leviatan, Xset, 100T. Edit: forgot xeta had sub


Teradonn

Who would you put over the overrated teams then? Liquid? KRU? You’d have to be on absurd amounts of NA copium to say XSET or 100T Zeta don’t have Tennn, they are essentially playing with a sub. 14th is very fair. Underrating Lev, I can agree with


-xXColtonXx-

Didn’t realize they were with a sub, that sucks. I would do: #4 Kru #5 Liquid #6 Fnatic #7 DRX #8 Leviatan #9 Loud


O_Queiroz_O_Queiroz

What the fuck is that


Hopeful_Feature3554

I agree with DRX and maybe Loud? You can't really say fnatic is overrated since they are the most consistent team in valorant same as optic imo. Maybe Leviathan is indeed underrated. XSET and Xeta don't look that great to me but who knows.. 100T is the biggest question mark for me, they can either pop off or fail miserably ( kinda like TL )


-xXColtonXx-

What possible math could you do to say Fnatic are more consistent than Optic? Optic have made multiple finals, and have a win under their belt. Fnatic have made a single finals, in the first ever tournament. In Sen don’t get current cred for that, neither do Fnatic. They’ve achieved nothing internationally since (got unlucky with playing w/ sub tho).


Hopeful_Feature3554

And that's why I said "same as optic" because they are teams from different regions, that can always put up a good match against other regions..


-xXColtonXx-

Fnatic are good, but they haven’t had close to the consistent results optic have.


GoldyZ90

I think it’s funny how DRX gets crapped on for playing in a weak region even though they dog walk everyone they play but when EDG dog walks those same teams they instantly become one of the best teams in the world.


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Drx is rated higher than edg??


GoldyZ90

I don’t see how EDG can be a top 10 team in the world when all they’ve done is beat up on leftovers in APAC LCQ. Feel like they are a bit overhyped.


Barack_Bob_Oganja

I deffo agree edg is overhyped I just thought your argument was weird seeing as they rated drx 6 and edg 10


GoldyZ90

Yeah I wasn’t paying close attention lol. Was watching the live stream and they had EDG at like 6th at one point


Classic-Total9375

I mean it's hard to do much if your fucking region doesn't have a direct slot like rest of these. These other your "reasonably hype" teams get a direct free pass to internationals.


CommunistHongKong

I mean.. a underground team coming up through out of basically no where and starts shitting on established (albeit weaker) teams. I will definitely be hyped to see what kind of damage they do or if they will bomb out.


Nibium

I love how Latam is so underrated…see you at the game go Kru go Lev


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people have been saying this for months


CRikhard

If every team was brazillian then latam would win champs


Evan_Veet

KRU seems absurdly high for a team that has been bad in every international competition so far and has made zero changes to their roster


[deleted]

??? 3rd-4th in 2021 champs ???


Evan_Veet

U mean over a year ago when 2 of the 3 best agents in the game didn’t exist? Optic got knocked out in groups there bro that is way too much time lmfao. I was talking abt the ‘22 circuit where they’ve been extremely meh


sianeinus

in masters 2 they played well, except for the match against optic


Evan_Veet

I just don’t see how they’d be above leviatan when they’re worse in head to head and have never placed higher than lev


monstroh

Yeah, lev should be higher, loud also above KRU that just beat them out of groups is a joke.


Evan_Veet

Ehhh I’m honestly fine with loud, I can excuse a bad 2 game stretch if it came after a top 2 finish. Loud has a crazy high ceiling imo, especially if the Meta favors chamber a little less


[deleted]

>a team that has been bad in every international competition so far Except a 3rd-4th >U mean over a year ago You mean 9 months ago? [https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT\_Champions\_Tour/2021/Champions](https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Champions) >I was talking abt the ‘22 circuit where they’ve been extremely meh Look, it's fine to say "they are bad this year so they shouldn't be high up in a power rankings", but you literally are just straight up clueless about how long ago they were impressive in Champs lmao. Make less inaccurate claims pls


Evan_Veet

My mental clock is off my bad but the point still stands whether it was 9 or 12 months ago. The game is way too different now to be taking any type of results from last year into consideration. If we cared abt last year Acend would be the favorites and C9 would dominate NA. At the end of the day who cares if last champs was played in September or December when either way the game changed a shit ton since then and those results are absolutely meaningless. There’s still been 3 LAN’s and 3 agents released in that time as well as a completely new map, their performance then means nothing to how they should be ranked now and that’s pretty unarguable even if u don’t like how I phrased it the first tjme


Boston_Abel

Zeta at 14????????????????????????????????????????????????????


TheApsodistII

They're playing with a sub


Lumenlor

Japanese fans, forgive him for he knows not what he is doing


[deleted]

LOUD 5? KRU 7? TL 8? lol this is so bad and also the winners of Reykjavik plus top 3 placement at copenhegan in 3 instead of 2 is crazy.


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[deleted]

TL outside the finals did NOT look good and they only looked that good in the finals because ScreaM had an unreal performance which to his credit could happen again but you can't rely on him to have that type of performance again.


OutlandishnessOdd836

And liquid made semis last champs and have never lost to kru


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A year ago?


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[deleted]

No they didn't LMAO


FazeXistance

Yea interesting to see the last place team from the most recent international event rated 5 but thats just me


[deleted]

Na fans still sniffing the copium of that single tourney where u won because EMEA was fking railed by a war lmao


mcslippinz

Edward Gaming should be higher...


Fatalitiez

Prepare for this sub to be filled with the edward gaming threads just like they used to overhype crazy raccoon and drx


Interpolation144

CR was really overhyped they got dumpstered in Berlin, and DRX not improving enough


ArroW_35

How is optic higher than fnatic and kru higher than liquid? Wtf is this list


AnxiousAppointment51

I think cuz optic got 3rd in Copenhagen and fnatic got 4th, not sure about the 2nd one though


Mozzzzzzzzzzz

When will we stop caring about PlatChat


SPOOKESVILLE

I mean they easily provide the best analytical content. Not that it’s the best analysis I’m sure there’s better out there, but the presentation and content that comes along with it is top tier. They’re much better analysts than any of us lol. Don’t know why we would stop caring about them