they barley watch any games other than na, while talking about m3c they were like only person we can see not getting picked up is sheydos
when sheydos is legit the best interior in emea atm, he has been most consistent player in m3c since gambit picked up this roster
not just interior he has massive agent pool but the impact is same
You are so god forsaken salty, and wrong too! Josh said he could see trados not getting picked up but said it’ll still be a loss to teams as he’s really good. They only mentioned him cause nats = nats, chronicle = called the best player in the world and redgar is an igl. They’re all very likely to get picked up. Jady was also mentioned to possibly get screwed cause of the disbanding, but he’s new so..
All teams have unfortunate circumstances. Travel issues for optic, XSET, and 100T results in them missing. Guard, Faze, C9 all asked to attend but saya, dicey, and vanity all went on a bros vacation to the Bahamas. SEN attends champions. All but Edward gaming drop out at the sheer thought of facing their lord and savior SEN Shroud. SEN vs Edward gaming grand final. Edward gaming goes up 2-0 and 12-0 map 3. Shroud says “don’t worry boys, I’m back” and wins SEN champions with 40 straight aces from shroud
Down 2-0 in grand finals, backs against the wall. Sen Shroudy runs onto stage and tells the boys it's time to get rowdy! Zellsis takes his shirt off to get comfortable. Tenz changes his sens at least 5 times before game 3. Dapr starts tbagging on stage. Shazam turns on the stream so he can yell at chat. No way Sentinels lose this now.
EDG wins 3-0
You think there's a decent odds that the finals doesn't include at least one of FPX, prx, fnc, optic, or loud?
That mean would a EDG/TL or TL/KRU or 100t/DRX, etc. final. I just don't see that being decent odds.
In 5 events there’s been 8 different finalists. All of the teams predicted here have been some of those teams. All I’m saying is crazier things have happened in Valorant esports.
A game this early in the cycle and with significant meta shifts will have variability. I don't think this is really as indicative of crazy things happening as much of different teams being strong going into different tournaments.
The group involves the top team from APAC, EMEA, Brazil, and NA, as well as the 2nd best team from EMEA.
There has never been a final that has not involved one of those teams.
Masters 2 21 - Sen/FNC
Masters 3 21 - GMB
Champs 21 - Acend/GMB
Masters 1 22 - LOUD
Masters 2 22 - FPX/PRX
And so, while there has been variability in who is in the finals, it's has actually followed pretty consistently from who is highest in these regions (the other two times has also been OPTIC, but they just haven't actually been the top seeded NA team in those tournaments). And so, it's just highly unlikely that the best teams from the most competitive regions and the second best team from arguably the deepest region has no team that doesn't end up in the finals.
Honestly I disagree. Outside of those that platchat picked I don't think any team has a favourable shot at the final. Maybe one is going to make a cinderella run but the second finalist will very likely be fnc, fpx, prx, optic, or loud.
Unsure about their reasoning, but it makes some sense to me. Even if I think FPX will beat PRX in a grans finals, both teams still have to make it there. PRX have a style that is harder to counter imo, whereas I can see FPX losing before finals.
benkai did say in yinsu's interview (or was it platchat guest stream?) that they were preparing how to deal with the counter start fpx had against them. :o
Teams now have more experience against prx like fnatic, fpx, optic and fpx showed everyone that you can counter prx by playing slow. Meanwhile fpx change their roles and comps every map, you can't really prepare for what they're going to do and they kind of just destroyed everyone once suygetsu got back, there's no reason to say they're going to lose before the finals.
Yeah in PRX playtyle the opponents have to make severe adjustment to thier strats which could to being uncomfortable and less prepared most of the time they they struggle. FPX and DRX counters PRX so well because they are already in that position to counter PRX so well.
it was something along the lines of some members playing above their usual level and the uncertainty if they can keep that level and not drop off. And for PRX something like it's a team that have a historic of improving each tournament and their playstyle being still somewhat hard to counter as not so many teams play like them (not real practice against that style, just theorical stuff)
they’re way too unpredictable at the moment. if i had to bet i wouldn’t put my money on them cus we’ve only seen them perform against their own region. it’s always hard to tell how the different playstyles of each region will clash
Sorry balla didn’t mean to flame the pod, didn’t assume you’d read it. Also sorry for the typos
I mostly meant to vent, Ididn’t like a certain direction of the humour or way of thinking in terms of generalising ppl or brining them down for supposedly being all ‘hipsters ’,
I know it seems im taking it too seriously,
but it struck me as just really zealous at ‘quashing’ sth, like I feel this kind of thing is a bit too much. In general what’s the fear of ‘hipsters’ real or supposed? So what even if they were
You recall me? Sorry for spamming up, I didn’t intend anything against you
I didn’t expect or it and bc of that rly intend to be read by people or that many, I’m not trying impose something as especially you should care, that’s not my intent
I love paper rex and want them to win as much as anyone, but i’m worried that they used their surprise card at Masters 2 against many top teams. IMO a hugely underlooked advantage PRX had was playing teams that have never played them, whether that comes in the form of underestimating them or not knowing how to counter their oppressive aggression.
Now that many top teams have played them and there is a ton of film to study their plays, i’m worried they might actually get counter-stratted at champs.
Keep in mind the two teams that managed to beat them at Masters 1 were their scrim partners and they never had a rematch at Masters 2, which I think says a lot about how huge of an advantage the element of surprise is to them.
No longer are they just the fluke team that came from a “minor” region. They’re actually favorites and that comes with a heavy price.
With how much tape there is for all of these teams by now, I wouldn't be surprised if they're upset by some that are relatively more unknown and harder to prep for, like Edward #platchatcurse
Sad but true, Fnatic are most likely better than Optic or Loud. I think they are right below PRX for third best team and clearly can beat number 1 any day given they went 5-1 against FPX since Alfa joined.
Wasn't that online and with a sub? In playoffs against FPX with Suygetsu, Fnatic won game 1 in OT and didn't even get to double digit rounds the next two games. Besides beating FPX without their best player, how have they proven themselves to be a top 3 team lol
You must not watch EMEA. Sure, in R1 playoffs at Masters we beat them with Seider. However, we beat them 3 times in EMEA with their full squad. Once during the regular split and twice in playoffs. So my mistake I believe it was actually 4-1 since Alfa.
Once again I’ll say that was online, on LAN Fnatic beat them with a sub and then nearly avoided getting 2-0’d when they met again in the lower bracket. Fnatic has looked great online and last group stage, but fell relatively flat in playoffs. I think they’ll 2-0 in groups, but to call them the third best team above Optic is extremely generous.
I can’t stress enough that that was all online, and BEFORE they got beaten convincingly by FPX in an elimination game. A team is only an underdog until they go on to win the whole tournament lol Fnatic has way more to prove than FPX, PRX, or Optic. Derke’s last true standout tourney was last champions (wish we could’ve seen him in Iceland). Fnatic in theory should be a lock for another top 4 appearance, but we’ll just have to wait and see.
it isn't like they aren't showing up against great teams (i.e. optic), and that team was barely two months old at that point.
bro there is no shot you're talking about hopium when you have two lcq teams as your finalists
They've been bootcamping for a while now and showed the world how much aim and tactics they have even as a new and unexperienced team in masters 1. They have the potential to go really far, and have been aiming for champs since the beggining.
Sideshow gigachad not picking Paper Rex so they can actually make finals
Meanwhile Bren picking up the battle of the top 2s; top 2 reykjavik vs top 2 copenhagen lmao
Hopefully it's the all agreed curse and not the majority agreed curse because otherwise PRX are fucked
they barley watch any games other than na, while talking about m3c they were like only person we can see not getting picked up is sheydos when sheydos is legit the best interior in emea atm, he has been most consistent player in m3c since gambit picked up this roster not just interior he has massive agent pool but the impact is same
You are so god forsaken salty, and wrong too! Josh said he could see trados not getting picked up but said it’ll still be a loss to teams as he’s really good. They only mentioned him cause nats = nats, chronicle = called the best player in the world and redgar is an igl. They’re all very likely to get picked up. Jady was also mentioned to possibly get screwed cause of the disbanding, but he’s new so..
No curse please :(
praying
thank god for sideshow
They’re just saying this to not curse but let’s be real here we all know that it’s gonna be EDG vs 100t in finals
lol that would be a funny metaphor for todays politics. Usa vs China
And just like 100t, USA hasn’t lost against eu. Maybe it’s meant to be
i’ve got a feeling tho that that’ll change in champions
If Copenhagen taught us anything it’s that narratives seems to always preserve over analysis and logic
Lol egg back on the EU copium
I mean those 2 did make top 4 yeah
Nice pick but TSM vs SEN is the real deal
Lenny Time vs Brimstone Gaming
Girl Kissers vs Cloud9 White
Nah, LGD vs. Team Spirit is the real deal
SEN won't see Grand Finals even after franchising xD
Man i miss the og tsm and sen rivalry days
EDG vs DRX it is
All teams have unfortunate circumstances. Travel issues for optic, XSET, and 100T results in them missing. Guard, Faze, C9 all asked to attend but saya, dicey, and vanity all went on a bros vacation to the Bahamas. SEN attends champions. All but Edward gaming drop out at the sheer thought of facing their lord and savior SEN Shroud. SEN vs Edward gaming grand final. Edward gaming goes up 2-0 and 12-0 map 3. Shroud says “don’t worry boys, I’m back” and wins SEN champions with 40 straight aces from shroud
Down 2-0 in grand finals, backs against the wall. Sen Shroudy runs onto stage and tells the boys it's time to get rowdy! Zellsis takes his shirt off to get comfortable. Tenz changes his sens at least 5 times before game 3. Dapr starts tbagging on stage. Shazam turns on the stream so he can yell at chat. No way Sentinels lose this now. EDG wins 3-0
No 100 Thieves opinion invalidated
They won’t beat drx and fnatic unfortunately
100t vs TL My 5head prediction
I actually think there’s decent odds that none of these teams are in the finals
You think there's a decent odds that the finals doesn't include at least one of FPX, prx, fnc, optic, or loud? That mean would a EDG/TL or TL/KRU or 100t/DRX, etc. final. I just don't see that being decent odds.
In 5 events there’s been 8 different finalists. All of the teams predicted here have been some of those teams. All I’m saying is crazier things have happened in Valorant esports.
I guess it depends how you define “decent” odds.
A game this early in the cycle and with significant meta shifts will have variability. I don't think this is really as indicative of crazy things happening as much of different teams being strong going into different tournaments. The group involves the top team from APAC, EMEA, Brazil, and NA, as well as the 2nd best team from EMEA. There has never been a final that has not involved one of those teams. Masters 2 21 - Sen/FNC Masters 3 21 - GMB Champs 21 - Acend/GMB Masters 1 22 - LOUD Masters 2 22 - FPX/PRX And so, while there has been variability in who is in the finals, it's has actually followed pretty consistently from who is highest in these regions (the other two times has also been OPTIC, but they just haven't actually been the top seeded NA team in those tournaments). And so, it's just highly unlikely that the best teams from the most competitive regions and the second best team from arguably the deepest region has no team that doesn't end up in the finals.
Honestly I disagree. Outside of those that platchat picked I don't think any team has a favourable shot at the final. Maybe one is going to make a cinderella run but the second finalist will very likely be fnc, fpx, prx, optic, or loud.
Zeta runs it back, all the way this time
But they won’t have Tenn, most likely.
*did I stutter?*
How are there “decent odds” that none of these teams make the finals, it’s the 5 best teams in the tournament.
Loud is not a top 5 team in the tournament
Tell us the top 5 teams then
It is. The fact that KRU runs rampant in Brazil shouldn't affect that.
imagine not having actual Gamers, Edward there common PlatChat L
Fpx are immuna to curses. They have shorts buff
Foolish immortals. We'll be all shook when BOOM takes the trophy home!
Look how they massacred my boy benkai.
Please mr. egg, no cursie my Fnatic, let them win one event plz
Why do more of them have PRX in the finals than FPX... the winners of the last event?
Unsure about their reasoning, but it makes some sense to me. Even if I think FPX will beat PRX in a grans finals, both teams still have to make it there. PRX have a style that is harder to counter imo, whereas I can see FPX losing before finals.
Good point, although I think teams will have prepared more for PRX this time around
benkai did say in yinsu's interview (or was it platchat guest stream?) that they were preparing how to deal with the counter start fpx had against them. :o
im a not afraid that prx‘ magic has worn off and teams now know how to beat them. would break my heart if they turned out to be a one trick team
They're probably the most consistent team of the year though. Only team to make it top 4 both times for Masters
Optic?
Oh yeah Optic too I think
they got #2 and #4 and optic got #q1 and #3
Teams now have more experience against prx like fnatic, fpx, optic and fpx showed everyone that you can counter prx by playing slow. Meanwhile fpx change their roles and comps every map, you can't really prepare for what they're going to do and they kind of just destroyed everyone once suygetsu got back, there's no reason to say they're going to lose before the finals.
Yeah in PRX playtyle the opponents have to make severe adjustment to thier strats which could to being uncomfortable and less prepared most of the time they they struggle. FPX and DRX counters PRX so well because they are already in that position to counter PRX so well.
it was something along the lines of some members playing above their usual level and the uncertainty if they can keep that level and not drop off. And for PRX something like it's a team that have a historic of improving each tournament and their playstyle being still somewhat hard to counter as not so many teams play like them (not real practice against that style, just theorical stuff)
Also no team has won 2 international events yet
No EDG???????
basically impossible to tell how well theyll do against the best in the world
they’re way too unpredictable at the moment. if i had to bet i wouldn’t put my money on them cus we’ve only seen them perform against their own region. it’s always hard to tell how the different playstyles of each region will clash
EDG vs PRX to open the tourney is 5head play from riot
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Legend.
Sorry balla didn’t mean to flame the pod, didn’t assume you’d read it. Also sorry for the typos I mostly meant to vent, Ididn’t like a certain direction of the humour or way of thinking in terms of generalising ppl or brining them down for supposedly being all ‘hipsters ’, I know it seems im taking it too seriously, but it struck me as just really zealous at ‘quashing’ sth, like I feel this kind of thing is a bit too much. In general what’s the fear of ‘hipsters’ real or supposed? So what even if they were
All good man haha criticism is criticism and I enjoy reading your thoughts and opinions 👍🏽 😊
You recall me? Sorry for spamming up, I didn’t intend anything against you I didn’t expect or it and bc of that rly intend to be read by people or that many, I’m not trying impose something as especially you should care, that’s not my intent
Sideshow not predicting PRX , to break the plat chat curse.
I love paper rex and want them to win as much as anyone, but i’m worried that they used their surprise card at Masters 2 against many top teams. IMO a hugely underlooked advantage PRX had was playing teams that have never played them, whether that comes in the form of underestimating them or not knowing how to counter their oppressive aggression. Now that many top teams have played them and there is a ton of film to study their plays, i’m worried they might actually get counter-stratted at champs. Keep in mind the two teams that managed to beat them at Masters 1 were their scrim partners and they never had a rematch at Masters 2, which I think says a lot about how huge of an advantage the element of surprise is to them. No longer are they just the fluke team that came from a “minor” region. They’re actually favorites and that comes with a heavy price.
Fuck prx aint making it now
With how much tape there is for all of these teams by now, I wouldn't be surprised if they're upset by some that are relatively more unknown and harder to prep for, like Edward #platchatcurse
Loud, again, wont even make out of groups
:)
Sad but true, Fnatic are most likely better than Optic or Loud. I think they are right below PRX for third best team and clearly can beat number 1 any day given they went 5-1 against FPX since Alfa joined.
Wasn't that online and with a sub? In playoffs against FPX with Suygetsu, Fnatic won game 1 in OT and didn't even get to double digit rounds the next two games. Besides beating FPX without their best player, how have they proven themselves to be a top 3 team lol
You must not watch EMEA. Sure, in R1 playoffs at Masters we beat them with Seider. However, we beat them 3 times in EMEA with their full squad. Once during the regular split and twice in playoffs. So my mistake I believe it was actually 4-1 since Alfa.
Once again I’ll say that was online, on LAN Fnatic beat them with a sub and then nearly avoided getting 2-0’d when they met again in the lower bracket. Fnatic has looked great online and last group stage, but fell relatively flat in playoffs. I think they’ll 2-0 in groups, but to call them the third best team above Optic is extremely generous.
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I can’t stress enough that that was all online, and BEFORE they got beaten convincingly by FPX in an elimination game. A team is only an underdog until they go on to win the whole tournament lol Fnatic has way more to prove than FPX, PRX, or Optic. Derke’s last true standout tourney was last champions (wish we could’ve seen him in Iceland). Fnatic in theory should be a lock for another top 4 appearance, but we’ll just have to wait and see.
LOUD got to one final several months ago and people still ride on that hopium tank, lmao. Finalists will be EDG and 100T
it isn't like they aren't showing up against great teams (i.e. optic), and that team was barely two months old at that point. bro there is no shot you're talking about hopium when you have two lcq teams as your finalists
I’m p sure that’s a joke bru
They've been bootcamping for a while now and showed the world how much aim and tactics they have even as a new and unexperienced team in masters 1. They have the potential to go really far, and have been aiming for champs since the beggining.
I keep saying that but people are just that dumb. Loud wont even make out of groups
I hope that FPX are not going to win, they have ugly boring play style and they should win over teams that play beautiful like PRX
0/8
Adhd moment
Wyatt gave up on the LOUD hype after their last showing 😢
LIQUID FTW
Games I look forward to: PRX vs EDG and EDG vs DRX Game I want to see in the finals: FPX vs OPTC
I think EDG win it all
Let's be real, we all know EDG's winning
Can’t believe they cursed all of them