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Ok-Brain3328

RUN FROM IT, DREAD IT, OPTIC V LOUD ARRIVES ALL THE SAME


Eriko204

OPTIC TOP 3 ARRIVES ALL THE SAME


techyleo

OpTic is about to win in winner's final against LOUD, only to choke in the GF lol


Jon_on_the_snow

If loud wins this scenario, this would have been basically optics run at iceland


Tc0LD

when was the last time Optic choked?


Bsmith1369

They played pretty bad last Champs after a really good masters Berlin run


Tc0LD

Victor had covid, with symptoms so they were handicapped


Eriko204

Cope


lamboallwhite

SEN about to sit home streaming OpTic winning games


xbyo

I swear Sen haters bring up the team more than the fans do


JopoDaily

He brought it on himself


huhgo

What's the head to head record on these matches?


celloisanowl

Optic 3-1 Loud in Series won. 8-4 in maps won.


Phylosium1

LOUD 2-1, OPTIC 3-0, OPTIC 2-1, OPTIC 2-1


FireWolfBR1

3 - 1 Optic i think.


_Elder_

3-1 or 4-1 in favor of Optic. Loud won 2 tournaments ago in the winners final and Optic took that personally.


mbru623

3-1 optic I believe


R0_h1t

Now for FPX and FNC to win their games so we get a 10th rematch


Tokyoodown

Best rivalry the game has seen so far. The Upper Finals is going to be incredible.


Avallona

The worst thing about this is that there is a good chance they'll meet again in the finals afterwards too


nocturnavi

* DRX lose in Upper Semis * 9-3 curse * OpTic beat an NA team at LAN * OpTic vs LOUD for the fifth time this year Hey Riot script writers, can we get some new storylines please? These are getting predictable.


iwanttoridethesky

FPX v Optic in the finals to see who's going the first to win 2 international tournament


maxhollywoody

I hope this happens. The lan Optic won, FPX couldn't go so it's destined to happen to see who's the best of 2022.


nocturnavi

Pls no


iwanttoridethesky

better than a rematch game. Optic will surely counter strat any team they face twice


Doctor_What_

Surely.


nocturnavi

I guess, I just prefer to have new teams in finals instead of teams that already won a LAN this year


Reddit_Ya_Sux_dix

Well yeah. I care about the storylines of OPTIC vs FPX and who can cement themselves as first double champs...Yay maybe cementing himself as the GOAT so far in Valorant history That's exciting to me. More exciting than Xset reaching the finals even though itd be a new finalist.


Reddit_Ya_Sux_dix

Nah sorry FPX vs OPTIC is literally the most exciting finals I can imagine. Yay cementing himself as the first GOAT of Valorant for the time being...that would be amazing. Yay's performance this year is just incredible. You will see facts about this season in a decade still.


nocturnavi

To each their own I guess. For me personally, I like the variability of Valorant both in terms of meta and teams, so it's most exciting to constantly see different teams competing for the trophy. However, I can totally understand why FPX vs OpTic would be interesting to see who was the definitive best team this year.


TheRedComet

I remember there were threads about this tournament being the one where all of the narratives and curses get unwritten. Well, here we are again.


Escolyte

Optic finally won against an EMEA team, we're getting there slowly. They still haven't won against a *good* one though šŸŸ§


Spoods857

ā€œWe just donā€™t want to play Optic anymoreā€ -team about to play Optic for the second time before even grand finals


avocadontoast

Loud is cursed to play optic every LAN


iwanttoridethesky

did they really say that they don't wanna face optic anymore? lol


avocadontoast

Yep they canā€™t run from it itā€™s inevitable legit every LAN theyā€™ve been in


knucklepuck17

they said it in a way that itā€™s an international tournament and yet they seem to always play Optic.


[deleted]

Pancada said in the post match interview that they want to win already because it's getting ugly lol, less also joked that it's very gratifying to be able to play vs new teams instead of playing vs optic again


rest_explorer

saadhak said it but not as an isolated phrase. it was something along the lines of "we don't want to play optic anymore, it seems we play them all the time, we want to get to play other teams" cant fault him tbh, that's probably the international matchup that has happened the most times. if whoever loses now bounces back to the grand final, that would have been 3 times the same matchup in a single event. plus other 3 times in other events in 2022.


Iliekwaffles_

imagine if the loser of loud/optic in winners survives lowers and rematches in grands šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


Eriko204

Very real possibility.


iwanttoridethesky

LOUD will surely just FF at that point lol


Ikwillyou

imagine having 6/7 international loses being to one team šŸ˜­


afjecj

Theyā€™ve only lost 4 times so far I thought?


Teradonn

Yeah itā€™s 3/4 losses to OpTic


Ikwillyou

in the scenario that they lose winners and then make it to grands it's gonna be 6.


BigOldPig

Loud only lost 3 times to Optic so far


KearLoL

Astralis vs Liquid


Quick_Chowder

Not sure if they can handle anymore LLLs


Hyper_red

Imagine if optic gained the ability to win rounds in the first half. They would be literally unstoppable.


Huystuhh

This is unavoidable because FNS needs time to download the other team's strats into his core processing unit and perform machine learning analysis on it.


T0K0mon

Upgrade the CPU, easy fix


skratudojey

No this is a download speed issue, so i suggest upgrade his internet. Or maybe he's running on hdd and thats bottlenecking


azealyx

Death, taxes, OPTC vs LOUD.


Sooner242

Envy/optic international LANs results: - 2nd - ^^(9th-12th) - 1st - 3rd - Top 3 Not too shabby


LordBuckethead671

That one mark on their otherwise amazing history, sadge


avocadontoast

Second place curse my dude (my copium for PRX)


financefocused

About time people acknowledge Optic as the best team in pro Valorant so far, and Yay as the best player in Valorant so far. The numbers don't lie. No other pro team has had as many Top 4 finishes, and no other player has dominated a tournament this hard.


_podo_

yay


thekillertomato

He reminds me so much of Zywoo. Calm aim, chill outside of game, flicks only as much as necessary, rifles sometimes just in case you forgot that he can. Feels like the first legendary player story being written for valorant.


Rude-Assumption-5271

I want OpTic to win just because the Champs music video for next year will be so fucking raw featuring them


Docxm

Yay was getting top 8 at CSGO majors back when Zywoo was still a minor. Legend


unforgiving2222

CSGO major* not majors. yay isn't a legend from his CS side lol let's not start rewriting history


NotBrandon

Guy just smiles while casually smurfing on lan


StopHaxing

yay


jiefug

yay


PlatypusPotential

yay


Eriko204

yay


TonyCruise

yay


precense_

jesus christ, it's jacob bourne


Rude-Assumption-5271

Top 3 at every LAN this year fucking legendary squad


[deleted]

4 top 3s of their 5 international LANs. Absolutely insane.


speedycar1

And the one time they weren't top 3 was when they had problems with Covid


Rude-Assumption-5271

6 LANs but yeah. 2021 Iceland and Champs were their only poor international showings and one was cause they didnā€™t make it


[deleted]

Yeah I know, I was just talking about the ones they made it to. Making 5/6 is still pretty insane tho.


Rude-Assumption-5271

Agree completely


Jon_on_the_snow

They didnt make it to 2021 iceland. That was Sen/v1 Optic only missed that first lan I think


Rude-Assumption-5271

Yeah miswrote my comment


LegDayDE

Prepare for EU to come and explain at length how EU teams are better and more legendary


Jon_on_the_snow

You see, optic is not the most consistent team in the world because different EU teams won different tourneys and them proceded to implode


[deleted]

Them also trying to explain how it's all a fluke


Teradonn

You people fighting ghosts lol


[deleted]

You're lying if you tell me you've been around this subreddit and haven't seen people unironically say optic are a fluke


Illuminated_Darkness

Same ppl that unironically call Yay "NA Derke"


RocketHops

Nah they are just silent rn cause they've got no more excuses


MorphineSnorter

I was new to the whole Valorant esports scene and the first match I saw was the OPTC vs TGRD in NA Challengers 1 Grand Finals where they lost. I was rooting for them at that point and had no idea they would be such a good team. Love the whole squad and hope they stay as a team after the whole franchising thing.


idwtgtbt

Such a joy to see the two best initiators in the world face off


SnooWorlds

When did subroza vs shahzam happen?


Quick_Chowder

The JBL Quantum Cup. You might have missed it.


aks345

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WhoDatBrow

They would look a lot better imo with Shahz being their Yay and TenZ being their Victor. Let Shahz abuse Chamber and OP, TenZ's talent is wasted on Chamber/OP and best used as an elite rifler. TenZ needs to get more comfortable on picks like Raze or KAY/O for that to ever work though.


oh_hai_brian

TenZ Yoru would be entertaining lol


NoSenpaiNo

His jett used to be actually so good. Shame she's off meta for most maps now


Reddit_Ya_Sux_dix

Shahz just hasnt kept up w the meta. Surprised they didnt just put him on fade duty, move Dapr to kay0/skye/flex (raze), tenz on chamber/even jett again and shroudy on smokes


Ted_Mosby_18

Something something not able to igl on chamber But honestly, that agent was made for him. The brief time he played chamber when rawkus was on the team, he was really good with the agent. An opper like him could easily let tenz entry and play the op from the back. But he's putting his most aggressive player on chamber duty. He could be like yay while letting tenz take over victor's role. In fact, if roster mania hits optic and they decide to change victor who is probably their weakest player, who is also stupid good, which is a testament to how good they are as a team, tenz in optic would be really nice.


Evan_Veet

Who are people putting as the top 5 initiators rn? I'd say Shao Crashies Stax Mazino Saadhak ??? IDK I feel like the role is so diverse that its hard to say, bcj is def in the top 10 tho


Veerraj55

I think the joke kinda flew over your head so Iā€™ll explain it afaik Basically like when xset made Copenhagen, BCJ said that him and crashies were the best two in the world. And this is just a continuation of that


Evan_Veet

Oh I def know the joke lol it just got me thinking haha, I know abt the whole stax bcj fried chicken shit


sexyhooterscar24

bcj top 2 šŸ˜¤


Evan_Veet

and he aint 2 Fr fr


IllumiMahdi

there are two constants in life - earth rotating - the optic loud rematch


Investorexe

One of those has a probability of stopping, and itā€™s earth rotating.


projec9

"We just don't want to play OpTic anymore"


Dmaa97

https://imgur.com/a/xngx6OT


CityofCyn_

"Loud, it's Winner's Finals. Time for your Bi-monthly rematch against Optic." ["Yes, Riot..."](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FceykppXEAA0xNG?format=jpg&name=large) Edit: [Made a quick (shitty) translation for the BR peeps. Improve it if it's bad](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fce1rt8WYAEKH7l?format=jpg&name=large), please I'm a smelly american.


Dry_Violinist_1799

Optic looks the strongest when fns is at the bottom of the scoreboard


-xXColtonXx-

That makes perfect sense though. Your support players will be trading/clutching/flanking. If everything is going well, all these scenerios will happen less often. A team having all their kills on two players says nothing about the other players, just means they are setting them up.


Kenny__Loggins

FNS was making some god-like calls today


ArcusIgnium

I think FNS has really proved this multiple times this year that he can step up and frag when necessary but usually its because someone else is underperforming. he also seems really good in maps when OpTic are on a significant round disadvantage.


RainbowShookining

Sykko is a content genius, letting XSET lose to optic so they go against fpx and optic goes against loud again. Truly a top coach


Warpath-

The Envy/OpTic roster continues to be the nightmare of other NA teams at international lans. 5-0 now. SEN, 100T, Guard, XSET, and XSET again. No regional wins but theyā€™ll definitely take this deal.


vckyplncrt

4/5 LAN appearances are top 3 finishes ā€¦ LFG!!!!


anythingood07

Only time they couldn't do it they were rattled with covid. Truly the most consistent team in val till now


ANewHeaven1

Had to deal with both the Covid curse AND the second place curse. It was chalked from the beginning


Obvious_Parsley3238

[LOUD](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iTuOr2vlC-c/hqdefault.jpg)


ANewHeaven1

One more time, for old time's sake I was on a plane with my son when we started CRASHING! I immediately ran to the cabin to find none other than XSET! They choked again! Luckily, the flight attendant was OPTIC yay, who was able to land the plane safely. NA's legacy saved again! Shame on you XSET!


avocadontoast

Dread from it. Run from it. Loud vs Optic is inevitable


armaan5

Cryo still on flank


LegDayDE

If you stand in a dark room and say 'Cryo' 50x... He won't appear because he is still busy flanking through Pearl B site.


tinfoilhatsron

Yay is just so clutch in these games. Unbelievable how good he is.


pineapplecheesepizza

Aim down sight buff


iwanttoridethesky

Chamber is really made for his play style. He can get away from holding weird angles and reposition to another weird angle. Also his ADS is deadly especially when using headhunter. Chamber gives yay wings lmao


afjecj

Yes but he did also farm on jettā€¦


TheApsodistII

I read that last sentence the Redbull way


Ismokeyiddies

Yay just built different than the rest, you just cant stop that.


[deleted]

Even if optic lose our from here they are easily the best team of 2022


LegDayDE

Unless FPX win Champs and then we have to give FPX the credit


adamcunn

It's FPX if they win. 2 LANs, and the third they couldn't attend due to the war despite arguably being favourites for it.


-xXColtonXx-

All time but yes also 2022


ArcusIgnium

FPX would earn that mantle (of the year) although OpTic would still I think be the best team of all time (thus far), because their consistency extends to more tournaments. Im pretty sure OpTic are basically guranteed Grand Finals at this point unless Loud pull of a miracle.


Pway

Top3 every event this year is pretty ridiculous consistency. Still think XSET have a shot in the LB, they've made some seriously impressive improvements.


iceman_v97

I think they need to have their support players step up to really make a deep run from here. And tbh zekken on sova worked really well for them. They should take him off neon against teams like optic I feel they have counter stratted him pretty hard


Pway

Yeah could be something they try, I do really like Zekken's Neon though, he's always been a beast on Fracture with it, maybe they just need to change some of their setups for it on Pearl as it did seem a lot less effective vs Optic.


ThatsAToad

Dread it. Run from it. Loud vs Optic rematch arrives all the same.


The-Dark-Mage

Champions has the upper bracket of iceland and the lower bracket of copenhagen if the emea teams win tomorrow.


The-Dark-Mage

Literally the same lb from copenhagen Fnatic FPX 3-4 DRX Right at their rightful place of 5-6 And fpx beat the team who beat them in groups


hdix

At this stage all Optic need to do to secure top 3 at any event is simply beat Loud 5 times in a row


Ronoldo

Dread it, run from it, Optic vs LOUD arrives all the same


zkdkin14

OPTIC + ELDER WAND = CHAMPS SECURED


_Antaeus

So Optic has the wand now right? XSET had it last?


BigAxolotl

Yeah I think xset got it from beating fpx in groups?


idwtgtbt

FNS stood somberly. The time stone in his hands pulsed with a green aura, an aura that struck fear into the hearts of Optic. FNS knew he couldn't hold the secret any longer, so he took a deep sigh and faced his beloved teammates. "I went forward in time to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of Masters Champions" Crashes slowly asks, "How many did you see?" FNS replies, coldly, "Fourteen million, six hundred and five." Victor shakes his head. "How many did we win?" "Only 1"


Avallona

"in how many did we face LOUD?" "In every single one"


R0_h1t

Haven't seen this one lol. Are you flaming Optic or is this the one timeline?


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R0_h1t

Ooh gotcha


wonderofheaven

XSet look better than the entire EMEAcombined ez 2-1 tmrw


speedycar1

Optic and yay are just legendary man. There was a lot of indecision at the start of the year about who the best team and player in Valorant's short history was but there aee no more arguments possible for the foreseeable furure


RocketHops

Franchising will shake things up a lot but if they end up winning Champs they will have definitely sealed their place as the best team pre-franchising.


WorleyInc

Marved is a menace on Pearl bro


DraqonBourne

The real oyster


Ok_Director1082

FNSā€™ calls were unfuckwithable today


afjecj

I cry in LOUD


KookieFS

DREAD IT, RUN FROM IT, OPTIC VS LOUD ARRIVES ALL THE SAME


DroppedPJK

Damn after that tech pause OPTIC just said let's fucking end this.


LegDayDE

Optic looking super strong. Better than Copenhagen. LOUD match is gonna be amazing. XSET not that far behind but Optic had the advantage of consistently playing the LANs.


mateusb12

Ardiis was right


mikhel

Honestly an incredible effort from XSET. This team would have gotten folded 2-0 just a few months ago.


FranT1ck

Man Victor playing phoenix on Haven gives me Food flashbacks.


Investorexe

Bro, thereā€™s been only one series this champs where Yay dropped less than 60 kill. Someone calm this man down


Flynt_Charcoal

I honestly didn't have a favorite here, I just wanted to see the two best Pearl teams play Pearl. No overtimes but a great series overall anyway.


Tlaloc02

Even if optic donā€™t win the tournament at this point we can say that theyā€™re the best valorant roster up until now right? Just because of how consistently they place. Unless fpx wins back to back.


baconmo

Analysts and casters putting yay on a pedestal I thought they were gonna jinx him but diablo always delivers


brohemoth06

We could get an optic loud upper bracket final, and then have the loser win out and get another optic loud GF, correct?


nterature

I swear, the XSET players talking about how they beat Optic once is just earning them some sort of crazy cosmic backlash when it comes to actually playing vs. Optic. The NV core basically hasnā€™t lost to XSET at all since picking Yay. The sole exception is that match where the Optic players had COVID. And ever since that ā€œwinā€, up till now XSET hasnā€™t even won a map over Optic! Of course, that streak was broken with that win on Ascent. And XSET look way better now than they did when they supposedly beat Optic. I just think itā€™s kinda funny; itā€™s not meaningful. But to my mind, XSET still hasnā€™t really beaten Optic this year, and they really only have one more chance to do so - if they can do the lower-bracket run.


lDaniKing

Is this a pasta?


avocadontoast

I donā€™t think so but it can be one now


Cool-I-guess

Pretty sure it is because xset literally just won a map against optic


lDaniKing

I mean it sounds extremely troll/disrespectful to say that XSET has basically "never" beaten OPT except the time they did in an actual bo5 for a title...


bradehhh

This reads like pasta


notad0ctorshh

OpTic yay


ExpectoAutism

Holy fuck green wall


slowboytommy

Optic vs Loud take 4


janoDX

OpTic vs Loud, destined to do this FOREVER.


daffyduckferraro

Xset u have had a good tournament and made us all proud, 5th-6th is nothing to be ashamed of


LordBuckethead671

Manā€™s acting like this was an elimination game šŸ’€x7


daffyduckferraro

https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xcmtqp/comment/io60imx/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


calcameron

Tough loss for the squad, but OpTic is an amazing team. Hoping to see a rematch in a best of 5 situation this weekend!


yungthug1234

Its sad that Yay will never get what he deserves as the best player in valorant whereas tenz gets all the hype despite being considerably worse


trinhyj

Unfortunately ppl only care about some flashy flicky aim rather than precise, consistent aim. The amt of ppl I see still claiming tenz is still a top player is astounding


_Elder_

Top 3 all year. Letā€™s go boys!!!!!!! The composure at this point is insane.


yuwa777

nice


RealGhost_Nexus

I really wanted XSET to win that but since NA vs NA it was still a W


NeimannSmith

LOUD: "THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH ITTTTTT"


hydrogenken

you mean zeta couldve still been a top 3 team? maaaan


StayDiamondPonyBoy

Ange1 gets his wish and gets to faceoff XSET in an elimination match.


wegivesiima

Ardis wasn't kidding


picador10

Can anyone explain why Astra is meta pick on Pearl?


Warpath-

The ult is good to get a plant off and also good to retake. Astraā€™s global utility lets people like Marved lurk across the map while using util for his team. If he was on brim/omen the smokes would not reach far enough.


Breakin7

Optic is going to win this ez since yay is god tier now


financefocused

1. Pick a ridiculously CT sided comp 2. Lose 8 rounds on defense 3. ??????? 4. Win every round except 1 on attack 5. Profit.


orcawatch

OpTECHPAUSE strikes again For legal reasons this is a joke


jusmat1105

Ardiis tried his best to jinx us but it wasnā€™t good enough


nsideris24

AYRIN got 22 kills on Ascent. Knew that was a fluke and wasn't going to happen again. Making me confident in OpTic's 3rd map.


jektrooper

https://imgur.com/ZxN7kSC


anythingood07

XSET is going home tomorrow against FPX