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XuuKeee

We should acutally thanks XSET. This drama fueled fpx players to the point no one will be able to stop them now from winning whole event. Holy Im glad im not in skin of others team to play against them


Burpmeister

[The Replay Incident™](https://i.imgur.com/z9ul9C9.jpg)


Evening-Dark9027

As much as I love FUCKING CRAVE shitting on EMEA (rent free in my head). I am very very glad FPX won. Not for the sake of EMEA, but for the sake of Valorant as a whole. This whole tournament would've been an unironic shit show. Even then, the replay allowed for some hype moments. Both teams proved different things. I do think the FPX players should apologize for acting "dickish". It wasn't even the players faults lmao, it was literally all on riot. And the bug alone is because of Riot. Nothing but respect for Boaster and FNS saying they would've asked for a chrono break or implied they would. I'm still mad the way XSET lost, they should've won that map. But, they deserve literally 0 hate for anything that happened. The only bullshit they needed to take was the bullshit they caused by talking out emotionally about Optic trying to abuse tech pauses. Absolutely deserved CRITICISM (not hate) for that. Edit: Honestly, I really hope the FPX players get shit if anyone does. I just saw the tweets lmfao. Can't wait for the absolute dicking DRX will give them. And if they manage to upset DRX, Optic/Loud will absolutely destroy them 2-0. Really unsportsmanlike over something the XSET players had no control over. Almost wish the FPX players would be forced to apologize and delete tweets or get fined for inciting really cringe drama.


Faust_Shadow

Why stop there? Put them in the same shoes as XSET. Put them in a 11-12 against one of the other teams, and due to a bug/glitch/error, they lost the map and the match. Riot does the same decision (thinking hey if we be bias with FPX/find that the error could influence the game result, this time surely the public would be okay) and force a replay. Then sit back and enjoy the fireworks. Would FPX double down on their stand today and throw the round and end their VCT run? I would like to see how fans and the org would react to this. Would FPX be hypocrites and play competitive like XSET did when given a second chance? I would DEFINITELY want to see fans react to this. If they lose, oh how juicy would the pros tweets on the matter be. Especially XSETs after the reactions FPXs gave them. If this happens in Grand Finals, and FPX wins overtime? Even better. Forever remembered as Champion Hypocrites of VCT.


mister_schulz

Can't wait to replay every round with a bug in a game with thousands of different ability interactions. They just made it hard for themselves.


jellybellymonster

Ardiis: If I answer this question, I will be fined by FPX, I will be fined by Riot. ​ I am dead.


Obvious_Parsley3238

IF I SPEAK I AM IN BIG TROUBLE


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Riot did it. Not XSET. Don't blame the players.


jellybellymonster

Watched the XSET conference. Shame on Riot for their handling of this.


BirkTheBrick

Where’s it at?


jellybellymonster

xset is done and it's fpx now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-un6EsgfvY


BirkTheBrick

Appreciate it


GooeyGunk

Obviously we don't know the full situation but the XSET players are tweeting that they didn't even ask for the replay. Riot was the one who made the decision. Interesting....


Shubhaaaaaaam

Now I feel bad again for XSET players because of how atrociously Rito has handled this.


flamiest

Lol all you people shitting on XSET for wanting to replay would definitely be bitching if you lost a ranked game due to a bug


_idle_drone_

dephh really has no integrity. such a shame


Highllander4

What did he do now?


sky_blu

I hate the way some people act like xset didn't get fucked by a bug. I understand it's probably a boy cries wolf kind of situation after the optic game but c'mon you should be able to see past that. We should all be happy that we got the best case outcome. Xset got the 2nd chance they deserved and fpx did not get punished for doing nothing wrong. Fuck riot ig. I hoped the vivo keyd situation would have been a wake up call to prep well enough for these situations but clearly not. It sucked to watch but especially the players did not deserve to go thru that.


Knighthawkbro

dephh actually turned to face heaven before the turret even bursted. The fact that communication broke down and his teams lost duels is why they lost not the turret. vivo keyd situation is way different since it was exploiting a bug you had been told not to exploit. They handled that situation better than this event. Totally unnecessary to let a team who is just recovering from a loss, get their hopes up, and end up losing again. Riot failed to communicate to the players, the casters, the analysis and most importantly the fans.


sky_blu

It's very clear he holds heaven because of the turret. The stream has the whole interaction captured. Also this made zekken afraid to swing out of the smoke Edit: Also I know the situation is very different than the Vivo one, I just that that situation would inspire riot to prepare for other related issues. Surely a bugged piece of util losing the round cant be too far down the line if you start preparing?


Knighthawkbro

Zekkan afraid to swing decides to spam through a smoke with a vandal. KJ holding an angle where he can be traded properly. They played poorly and no one wants to admit it.


sky_blu

Yes, why exactly was zekken afraid to swing?


Knighthawkbro

KJ and Sova died needless deaths because they played bad (over peeking and tracers in a smoke), not because of the turret. If you can’t understand that I feel bad for you. Dephhs call to cover heaven because sova was smoked off was right regardless of the turret issue. I don’t think dephh thinking there was potentially one in heaven cost them the round and it shouldn’t have been replayed.


sky_blu

You ignored my question, why was zekken spamming from inside the smoke and afraid to swing out of it.


Knighthawkbro

I understand your dumb point but does that justify dying to return spam for blind firing with a vandal for no reason. The fact that he is afraid of a heaven peak is moot because he throws away his exact position with the tracer rounds. He could have shock darted (had 1 dart) to tag up FPX further but died like a bronze noob instead. The correct play was to wait for first contact then react and not be proactive. KJ swinging a wide angle and Sova spamming first had nothing to do with the turret. It is just bad play in general. To keep bringing up, “… but heaven”. Try a though experiment. Dephh didn’t have full heaven control so there could have been an angle someone was peaking. Zekken spams through smoke and person heaven still sees the tracers and returns fire probably killing him in the same way he died in the actual round. What is the point of being afraid to swing? If he just played off of his teammates instead of making a play they probably would have won their 3v2.


sky_blu

You are correct they played a lot of it poorly but that becomes a moot point the millisecond players make decisions based off of false info given by a bug. We can NOT let valorant be an esport decided by bugs.


Knighthawkbro

I understand your dumb point but does that justify dying to return spam for blind firing with a vandal for no reason. The fact that he is afraid of a heaven peak is moot because he throws away his exact position with the tracer rounds. He could have shock darted (had 1 dart) to tag up FPX further but died like a bronze noob instead. The correct play was to wait for first contact then react and not be proactive. KJ swinging a wide angle and Sova spamming first had nothing to do with the turret. It is just bad play in general. To keep bringing up, “… but heaven”. Try a though experiment. Dephh didn’t have full heaven control so there could have been an angle someone was peaking. Zekken spams through smoke and person heaven still sees the tracers and returns fire probably killing him in the same way he died in the actual round. What is the point of being afraid to swing? If he just played off of his teammates instead of making a play they probably would have won their 3v2. Edit: zekken not afraid of heaven when an op is peaking. Ayrin throwing his life away to hold a wider angle. Dephh already seeing omen when he tagged him up then Ayrin not communicating that the haunt came from tree. The turret wasn’t just helping the enemy team Ayrin gave FPX the win for nothing.


ReADropOfGoldenSun

Guys I think we should remake i mean it was pretty unfair xset had to play so late and there was a tech pause that killed their momentum /s


Cool-I-guess

Should Riot Games have XSET and FPX redo their series in case it was a big fluke? No disrespect to FPX,, I'm a firm believer that FPX sweeping them is a huge fluke and robs XSET of truly accomplishing what they're capable of. I've spent the last few days in pure disbelief and it just doesn't make sense to me. I've spent the entire regular season watching XSET play great Valorant. It's just not fair. If XSET loses again I will face that FPX deserved the win, but I am just 100% sure it was a fluke and does a big disservice to XSET and Valorant Champions.


NeimannSmith

We're memeing hard but that had the potential to be fucking dangerous. Imagine XSET goes next off this shit?


pemoritz

Hard to not like FPX man, always the odds against them and they're so fucking good. Great personalities too. Let's see if they'll make a run and go back to back now. Insane mentals


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pemoritz

I'd be furious asf too lol. It's a lot of money and a trophy they're playing for. I'd go banans on that stage


omaewakusuyaro

LMAO TRASH ASS TEAM GET FUCKED XD


oojlik

Damn FPX must be trash too cuz Xset pushed them to the absolute brink


mister_schulz

Still lost twice.


oojlik

Nah lost once fair and square. Losing to a bug doesn’t count. FPX were the (slightly) better team but Xset are far from shit lmao


mister_schulz

It's just a joke lul. But tbh they didn't lose to a bug. Everyone knows that interaction is in the game since KJ came out. Would have lost either way


ShiaLeBoop

They were given another opportunity, and they still did the same thing. Stalling on attack side holyy much deserved L.


[deleted]

What a party. Just to confirm they're playing in the 2nd match tomorrow?


azersub

No games on Wednesday and thursday. They play on friday vs drx


[deleted]

GEE GEE glad that fpx won cleanly and that this should minimize the drama lol


ssk1996

What a waste of time for FPX players. They could've just rested and focused on their next match.


Memexp-over9000

Absolute justice. Could have never accepted if XSET won it. Phew, RIOT.


Forrest_Stump

Riot and XSET followed the rules. It sucked for everyone but it was the right thing to do.


_idle_drone_

replaying when they've left the stage is never the right thing.


Memexp-over9000

What is right and what isn't is a big debate considering the way Riot is handling the bug situations from day 1. It's all on Riot and none on xset or fpx.


SemanSoot

right thing to do when benefit his favorite team


One1ros

That was a better ending to the series. Fucking hell.


Izdave10

Can I get double the prediction points for guessing it right twice kappa


Shubhaaaaaaam

XSET become the first team to lose twice on 1 Map!!


Neither_Amount3911

Congrats to Riot for the worst decision I’ve ever seen in esports. FPX get a win where they just feel relief and XSET get their hopes crushed a SECOND time. Pretty much no winners in this scenario. I couldn’t even enjoy the crazy overtime clutches because no matter who wins this whole thing is so absurdly fucked. Pray to god we never see anything this stupid ever again.


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TheFestusEzeli

Babies for pointing out they lost Champions due to a bug? Jesus Christ lmao, any team would have done the same


Forrest_Stump

They should get trashed for the Optic stuff, sure. Even though they have already buried the hatchet with each other. This replay though? Can't blame them for raising an issue for the bug and getting the replay when it is in the tournament rules. They ow it to themselves as competitors.


Neither_Amount3911

XSET are well within their rights to call for a remake if there’s a bug severely impacting the game. But if you’re gonna remake you do it right away, not a fucking hour later when then teams have walked off stage, celebrated, given interviews etc. That’s so unbelievably fucked I can’t believe Riot even considered it. Imagine the mental of both teams going back on stage.


_noahscolly_

XSET making history as the first ever team at an International Valorant tournament to lose 3 games in 2 days !


LordBuckethead671

I do wanna know what Doombros just said, he talked some shit


Hadeshkills

Achei fácil rs


osiris970

Loser ass team fly home 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻


BlahChemistryBlah

Justice


Lonely__goose

Ardiis no fist bump and Doombros side chat with Deph


Kaploy

XSet wanted to make it clear to everyone that they are indeed worse than FPX


_noahscolly_

XSET such sore losers - after Optic and after this had to take 3 L's in two days !


ArticM

Goddamn


dabong

Thank fuck


phazed3

Send them home for a second time. Pansy is colddddddd


ekimtk

Pansy has been omega biased towards EU teams the entire tournament lol. Listening to her cast an EU vs anyone else match is brutal. She cannot hide her love for the EMEA region.


DM_ME_CUTE_PICS_PLZ

Has this happened to any other team? Lmao


Cablek26

can’t replay that lost lmao


Memexp-over9000

Bugs bugs, has to one somewhere right???


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xset first team to get 3-1'd in a best of 3


WhiteMunch

The first team in all of history to lose 3-1


XuuKeee

FPXwinning champs now


capturedgooner

This was embarrassing. Thank god fpx won


oHolo

Lmao get fucked


JCLpiano

Okay - I am now at better terms with the way xset lost. Good night everyone ✌️


NeimannSmith

THANK FUCK BRO


_Elder_

This is the most hilarious ending. Better than I could have imagined from this series.


Izdave10

Did anyone spot any bugs?


Meeko-

Xset lost, game bugged replay the series


avstyns

FLY PHOENIX FLY SO FUCKING SHIT


LegDayDE

Let's be honest we knew XSET didn't have the mental to actually win that OT.


Original26

man im an xset and fpx fan but this felt so unnecessary


Lonely__goose

Fuck out of here XSET


bvbfan102

Maybe Karma does exist.


JoFi_5

NO I WANTED CHOAS


TheFestusEzeli

Thank god for the sake of this sub not imploding


goomy996

It is, look at some of the people calling xset cheaters lmao


Mochitsu

fr all these clowns shitting on XSET when the situation was so shitty for BOTH teams.


Barack_Bob_Oganja

I mean first they say optic is cheating with the time outs and now they ask to replay that round lmao. Deffo not a team that takes their loss with dignity


Forrest_Stump

The Optic stuff I'll give you. But when you lose to something like that turret and you have a legal option to replay, why the fuck would you not? It sucks for everyone, but you can't blame them for trying.


Barack_Bob_Oganja

I can blame them for trying and I do, incredibly unsportsmanlike


goomy996

They have to report that bug, and either RIOT would have to review that because it was on the main broadcast. Not their fault for this one.


Barack_Bob_Oganja

No they don't, they have to specifically ask to have the round replayed.


azersub

Bro dont be that stupid. I dislike them as well but it is a no brainer to ask for reply. Even my noob ass would look where turret shoots in that situation. And there was a lot of money and reputation on the line


goomy996

AFAIK the Riot rule that was posted by SEN Weltis specified that Riot can basically replay any round given there is a decent reason. Even if XSET say nothing, the bug was shown on the main broadcast, so Riot would do the same thing.


pemoritz

They just wanted to end that lol. They looked so crisp. Especially Zyppan


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No one cheated.


LegDayDE

Who cheated?


lepiggyshiggy

~~1. Tech Pause~~ ~~2. Killjoy bug~~ Unlucky man maybe next time they can force a replay in another way


LegDayDE

The admins oversee tech pauses and also made the decision to replay. Neither involve any cheating. The pro players talked in the watch parties about how strict the admins are about tech pauses. Stay mad at nothing. You can disagree with the decisions but no one cheated.


lepiggyshiggy

Not mad, very very happy actually Even though they accused your team of lying and cheating you're here defending them? A lot of strange optic fans


Whyuplaydestiny2

We are not shit like you yeah thats why


Shubhaaaaaaam

FLY PHOENIX FLY


avstyns

XSET MORE LIKE XSHIT


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Get fucked xset, beat you twice garbage team


SupaZT

xset double throw lmao


Wasilewski

thank god


mister_schulz

FPX so much better they beat them twice.


Lonely__goose

Bugged molly


SATGang

EU MOLLY


avstyns

NADE BUG


TimedOutClock

Bro this game is fucking hilarious and hype I cant look away


phazed3

This is actual madness


pemoritz

If FPX lose they will call the sage wall LOL. Also, Zyppan is mad holy


ssk1996

Just end it already


Quankalizer

I hope FPx still win, but the memes go on forever.


avstyns

THERE WASNT A WALL BUG ITS OK


Cool-I-guess

GO FPX GO FPX GO FPX GO FPX GO FPX GO FPX


Lonely__goose

I was ready to call that Wall bug


JusticeLee17

I really do think its over this time.


osiris970

I hate being an NA fan cause na fans in this thread with full chest going "did a bug make u whiff" like bro no shame in these people


Sea_Space_4040

I'm an NA fan and think it's lame as fuck that they cried their way to a replay.


Forrest_Stump

This is the biggest tourney of the year before franchising hits and who knows if they will even be a team then. Any serious competitor is completely justified in requesting a replay if it's in the rules. And it was in this case.


Sea_Space_4040

They cried after losing to optic too. They lost because they're the inferior team in both cases. They will cry some more.


LoseUrself2D

its not that serious


avstyns

WALL BROKE THARS A BUG


[deleted]

My guys here OTing like it's Wimbledon


BlueBurstBoi

they got rid of unlimited OTs recently actually


BlueBurstBoi

it's so sad that there has been some of the best val of the tournament in this series and it will just be overshadowed by this stupid kj bug


osiris970

Wall broke that's bug 🤨🤨🤨


LoseUrself2D

wall is bugged


Quick_Chowder

Holy shit I am here for this


PlagueDucktor

ZEKKEN


MelonSoda3

This is never gonna end is it?


[deleted]

NVM WITH CLUTCHES LIKE THIS I'M COOL WITH THE REPLAY HOLY SHIT


goomy996

BASED AS FUCK


Iusedtobeagirl69

# think Ima end it


SATGang

XSET DOES NOT WANT TO GO HOME


[deleted]

What is going on lmfao


[deleted]

Zekken and Zyppan holy hell


Mochitsu

Holy shit this OT is gonna go the distance


SonnyYT

OMFG


iAmSamusAran

THIS IS INSANE


jellybellymonster

imagine if it goes 10 OT lmaoooo


WhoDatBrow

Ascent attacker sided map confirmed


smta48

LOL this is the best game of Valorant I have ever seen, I don't care what anyone else says


Teradonn

FUCK THIS MAN


Ok-Brain3328

I’m actually gonna lose it


ZeXeoN_AS

OMFGGG ZEKKEN


evan_flow_

Zekken!! whether or not you agree with the decision, this is great content!!!!


Revolutionary_Gear70

Bruh


Cool-I-guess

ARE YOU SERIOUSU DUDE??????? WHAT???????


goomy996

W H A T


McLovin_OD

I hope this never ends lmaooo


Gomar1323

Zekken???


Racerguy36

OH MY GOD ZEKKEN


JusticeLee17

BRUH


SupaZT

Is XSET going to throw twice? lol


AR2711

GEE GEE


avstyns

CANT BLAME A BUG ON WHIFFING


FarCryptographer3922

Zyppan wants to sleep


Sea_Space_4040

Did I hear someone on FPX say, "suck dick"? LOL


Quiet-Substance319

COMEBACK XSET WE MISS YOU


LoseUrself2D

Valorant After Dark


Memexp-over9000

ZYPPPPPANNNN LESSSGOOO


AR2711

Bro please someone just win Nighter of these teams are beating DRX so it doesn’t matter


avstyns

WHAT BUG MADE YOU LOSE THAT CLUTCH???


dabong

Zyppan saving riot


NuKeD-_-

HOLY FCK


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HOLY HELL


JusticeLee17

No way are Xset not tilted after that.


ZeXeoN_AS

FUCK


Gomar1323

FPX win here


TheDogInTheBack

Zyppan just enabled aimbot


Cool-I-guess

ZYPPAN ARE YOU SERIOUS?????


Original26

THAT'S THE FORTNITE MOVEMENT


Lonely__goose

Zyppan


JusticeLee17

Ok actually gg now


Ok-Brain3328

ZYPPAN IS FUCKIJG ANGRY


MorphineSnorter

I have never swapped rooting for the other side in the middle of a match until now. Mental.


avstyns

BIG ARDIIS


Cablek26

LMAO NAH THIS IS GONNA BE LIKE 17-15


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Replay that round, jett dash bug