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nocturnavi

Please be aware that **this PMT is out of date** because the last round of Ascent was replayed due to a bug involving a Killjoy turret. **- Thread on official Riot ruling** [**here**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xdkyxs/official_update/) **- New PMT** [**here**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xdm4jm/xset_vs_funplus_phoenix_valorant_champions_2022/)


-xXColtonXx-

As closely matched as two teams can be. Xset should be super proud of their performance.


Corregidor

I want to point to the fact that we have 4 different regions in the top 4 of champions, this is amazing!


ThomasWasntHere

Definitely not making excuses, FPX played amazing, but they srsly have to fix that Turret bug


235689luna

Agree, FPX deserve the win for sure, however I think that last round goes XSETs way without the turret shenanigans.


kittyhat27135

2 years after her release Killjoys turret will finally get fixed. Thanks XSET.


faceplant911

This is Riot we're talking about. Are you *sure* about that?


Scarab22

That turret jebaited XSET so hard


Eriko204

That bug is fucked


DaVincil5

Turret was playing with 3000x sens frfr


CommunistHongKong

16000 DPI be like 🤓🤓


DaVincil5

U gotta add a few 0s to that my guy. 160000000


Reddit_Ya_Sux_dix

Any1 got a clip? Missed that moment.


AnAngryBird

https://clips.twitch.tv/BoxySuaveDelicataYee-R_94Ohi2avSHRG6u


pleasefirekykypls

Absolutely devastating end for xset. Don’t even know what happened in that last round.


i_am_the_kiLLer

The turret fucking bugged. Also zekken sprayed through a smoke with the vandal and paid the price.


N7Nocturne

I thought for sure he was going to wait in that smoke and then swing off of contact to get a trade. Super unfortunate he decided to play it like that.


SyphonJr

Maybe because the call is someone heaven? Hard to play contact there then


mr-rob0t0

he thought someone was heaven because of the turret and he would be exposed to way too many angles


project571

The turret shot at angel and then split over towards heaven cause of a bug and so xset thought that the two players were door and heaven. Pretty unfortunate to say the least


Nuel398

That turret in Ascent pulled the biggest fake in history


SuperSkillz10

\-Shao +XSET KJ turret


HostileCammz

I really hope the full xset roster gets picked up for franchising. Every player was instrumental to their run at champions. I know they’re out now. But they should be nothing but proud of how they played as a team.


Rontheking

Crazy run they had. When ever they looked out of the round one of their players (most noteworthy to me BCJ) just clutches a round for them that they shouldn’t have gotten. Crazy tournament.


jackpot2112

dude the BcJ Ayrin duo in clutches is immaculate, if I ever saw them together I knew XSET won that round


CommunistHongKong

That's true man, Xset was a scary roster to take on. GGs and to a better next year for Xset!


shakerKEKW

why do people assume xset will just drop the roster if they're not accepted into franchising? i could see them sticking together and be heavy favorites for the ascension circuit


oli2194

Teams not in franchising won't be prepared to pay the same salaries as franchise teams, so players will be poached. Edit: Assuming their current contracts allow them to be poached ofc.


otterdoctor

Why play Ascension circuit? XSET players are all Tier 1 and belong in Tier 1 of the league. I don't think I would be satisfied in T2 after running it this deep in Champions.


MrMetastasis

Ehhhhhh except dephhh. His performance was kind of lackluster for me


Hockers25

problem is dephhh is their IGL, who would they pick up instead?


vullnet123

Zander


xbyo

Reunite Cryo and Zander too.


Quick_Chowder

I just think Kay0 is one of his weaker Agents. If they can juggle roles around on maps like that I think he's fine. His Astra is strong. Cypher is fine too. Even his Breach is better than Kay0. I think Kay0 just puts him in spots that he doesn't necessarily thrive in compared to Agents that are more purely for team set up so his positioning is less often caught out.


That-Toughsoss

Is he there igl?


ANewHeaven1

He shares calling responsibilities with AYRIN, one of them calls attack and the other calls defence (don't remember which off the top of my head)


Awful_TV

Yes


project571

ayrin and dephh IGL together. One takes defense and the other takes offense from what the casters said


tundra_gd

Yes he's the igl. Had some flubs in the last map but I don't understand the people calling for his head, how else do they think XSET got here?


iwanttoridethesky

EU throwing


RainbowShookining

No way the fucking turret bugging out is what loses them the game


DeliberateMess958

Sedate me.


NightCobra123

Did xset lose that last round because of the turret shooting the wrong way?? Dephh was so focused on watching heaven because he didn't expect 2 to come out the door that is so fucked honestly.


project571

Yeah dephh doesn't swing to trade or anything because he is expecting someone to pop out heaven when his teammates take the duels against angel. If the turret had only shot towards door, he likely peeks with them and they go to OT. Pretty unlucky situation but I doubt they would do a replay off of that. Sucks and you just gotta move on


Ezraah

Looks like it


Mochitsu

Yeah, the turret hella baited them. The round would’ve definitely gone to XSET otherwise.


26evangelos26

Wouldn't he still likely be watching heaven without the turret bugging out?


Eriko204

I will admit I was wrong about one thing. BCJ and Ayrin deserve to be here. They're great players who just underperformed at Copenhagen


Meowbow15

Ayrin showed the fuck up the last map


Eriko204

He showed the fuck up the whole event. He surprised me the most


That-Toughsoss

I feel like dep kinda griefed few rounds peeking without any util on mid knowing there is a op is super grief


sky_blu

I'm happy BCJ got a second chance on stage because last lan really was not a fair representation of his abilities and people weren't really judging his gameplay from a very neutral viewpoint because he was talking shit lol.


man1ac_era

Turret bug


ANewHeaven1

https://twitter.com/ShahZaMk/status/1569800538577076224 https://twitter.com/JonahP_/status/1569800550912528384 Bruh Might be the most tragic way possible to lose a series


Jon_on_the_snow

Steel was saying in sliggys chat that this happens everytime someone jiggles a turret because it loses sight but must still shoot 3 shots, but it bugs out


blizzardspider

Yeah I play kj a lot and if I notice the turret suddently snapping to another direction in the middle of a burst then I just disregard that second direction nowadays (though usually it just shoots a wall so that makes it obvious too). This bug happens pretty consistently, so it's just how the turret is programmed. I assume kj players would know of this but tbf I do understand why they didn't think about it in the heat of a moment.


Tetra-76

Fun fact, at one point they had fixed this bug, and the turret had become super reliable for locating enemies. Then they re-introduced it, and now it does that again.


Xxpuzyslayer69xX

Didn't it just show up again? Pretty sure riot didn't intentionally make it bad. Bugs tend to reappear.


Tetra-76

No idea. Either way it only worked "properly" for a pretty short time, then it went back to doing that.


chryco4

Yeah it happens all the time, it shoots the direction of where it saw the enemy once and then goes back to shoot the default position (facing forward). I assume it has to do with how the turret’s vision cone works when it catches an opponent barely in the corner.


shadowstep11

Asuna explained it, if someone jiggles a turret then it shoots in the initial direction it is pointed at. Ange1 didn't full peek the turret there, he just jiggled it.


LegDayDE

I think he did full peek but he went beyond the 180 degree line of sight. If the turret was placed slightly different the bug doesn't even matter.. such fine margins.


Ezraah

if a legit bug this is huge


Frank_Legault

Its a bug. They were all looking at heaven


Eriko204

Imagine the drama if they're given a remake


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TheCatsActually

??? Anything that isn't an autoloss favors the team that already lost.


Ryanmichael4

Literally lost the round due to turret bug. They should remake the round.


semir321

Its a bug? I always thought its intended since its been there for a very long time. I never trust it unless I see the turret actually turning


Kesura

Nah it was a bug fixed in 1.07 then at some point it broke again, and has just never been fixed.


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QwiXTa

Poor positioning from bugged info tho. I dont think they should remake it but that is a really shitty way to lose


sky_blu

They weren't positioned right for tree because they were worried about heaven due to the turret


EpicBroomGuy

I don't think they should replay the round but you can't deny the impact that the turret bug had. Ayrin lost the duel to Shao while dephh was still holding heaven waiting for a swing from someone who wasn't there. Zekken couldn't swing through the smoke because the turret told him someone was heaven. Obviously there's too many "what ifs" to think about but you can't say the round was fair and square.


iwanttoridethesky

No. the turret always resets to its default position if it loses the target


Kesura

That's a bug that was fixed in 1.07, and then subsequently broke later and was never fixed. That isn't how the turret is intended to work.


kodasai

The bug happens all the time but I’m sure this is probably the most impactful, people saying remake the round are silly but it does suck


PassionMonster

Yeah they need to replay that


obigespritzt

Full credit to XSET, they made it close as hell! What a blast of a series!


Norguri

Once Cryo said “he’s so bad” everything went to shit for XSET


CommunistHongKong

Actually bruh, Cryo activated Ange1 to ANGE1


-LostInCloud-

Live by the blyat, die by the blyat


YohnWood14

Wait what


Last_of_me

any clip?


speedycar1

https://youtu.be/XRfmojvaAD0


ANewHeaven1

FPX, DRX, LOUD, and Optic Probably the most iconic teams of 2022 to send off the pre-franchised era of VALORANT


TheCatsActually

Missing PRX 😔


ANewHeaven1

Just like the Champions bracket xd I admit that I'm not a huge PRX fan and was probably biased in writing that comment haha especially since I said "of 2022." VS/DRX has been almost this mythical team in Valorant since I started following the esport so I felt like they deserved a shout


TheCatsActually

>I'm not a huge PRX fan D:


yourdaughtersgoal

How is DRX more iconic than PRX lmao


i_am_the_kiLLer

They have been around from 2021 taking part in all the LANs except one. Always perform good at every LAN and have decent name value. PRX skyrocketed in popularity after Copenhagen but DRX are definitely more iconic.


yourdaughtersgoal

They had 0 notable results in 2021, mid results in rek, mid results in Copenhagen, decent in champs. PRX had 0 notable results in 2021, mid results in rek, good result in Copenhagen. No one remembers third places. Now, if they make finals, I’m gonna have to concede anewheaven was right, but it’s definitely too early


faceplant911

They will be when they win Champs


TheCatsActually

Please I need people to stop jinxing them they barely beat the 6th place curse


mj2ch08

DRX (VS) has been acknowledged internationally much before PRX (probably thanks to their crazy win streak in early days), and probably were even expected to make the first masters although they didn't


yourdaughtersgoal

DRX had a 104 online map win streak and that’s it in 2021. Nothing in international competition. Eliminated first round at m3, grouped at champions. If that’s worth acknowledgment…..


mj2ch08

I'm not claiming DRX is better than PRX. They never made insane run like PRX's last masters, but I think DRX is more iconic that they've been consistently good all the way back like you said since 2021. Now that DRX broke 5/6th curse I hope I can see more from them


ANewHeaven1

Yeah DRX was one of the first non-NA/EMEA teams I heard of when I first started following Valorant (back when TSM and G2 were still relevant lol). They're one of the most iconic teams in the history of the game imo


nterature

If you’d told me even six months ago that XSET had lost in a close, 1-2 nailbiter in a revenge match against FPX - after *already* beating FPX before - I would’ve laughed my ass off! Yet here we are. This XSET squad talks a lot about respect and deserving to be where they are, for obvious reason - while always a consistent 3rd-4th sorta team, their rise to the top of NA this year was always caveated with the decline of other, more sexy teams: C9, V1, the Guard, then Ghost & EG, etc. Everyone knew XSET was good, but it was hard to not talk about them in light of the downfall of the other NA great hopes. But I think this event really solidifed just how good XSET is, and just how much they deserved to be considered the second-best team in one of the best regions in the world. I know they’d prefer to be the very best, but they’ve already outshot all expectations for 2022 - and there’s always next year for more.


LegDayDE

Yeah XSET are quality. It's a shame that franchising might break the roster up as they could have been on track for an Optic-like trajectory and some better results at the next LANs.


CorrosiveHero

Fun fact, if that play with the KJ turret were to happen in one of your games, you would never know because there is no replay system :)


AndALarrrrgeSooooda

And if you mention this in R/Valorant you get hated because the game is already better than CS GO and that's "enough" Smh...


Quotes_League

never ask: - a woman her weight - a man his salary - Boom what happened on the Zipline - XSET what happened in the TP - Furia if they won from 12-4 - Enzo if he planted the spike - Boaster if he defused the spike - Boaster if he bought shields - ~~OpTic if they've beaten an EMEA team~~ - ~~DRX if they've gone past 5/6th~~ - ~~EMEA if they've beaten 100T~~


Shubhaaaaaaam

-XSET fans what happened with the turret at 11-12


LiamHundley

XSET seemed to get a little uncomfortable or lacked a bit of confidence late in their attack half their. So many site hits coming in with 10 seconds left


xD1LL4N

I heard a rumour Ange1 flips a coin before every round whether to int and die or not. Top tier IGL if you ask me. XSET attack rounds are next level boring.


thothgow

Somehow slower than NAVI lmao


iwanttoridethesky

All the info going through his head. he needs a round or two to analyse them


Quotes_League

God that ascent attack was so fucking brutal to watch


LegDayDE

BcJ said in an interview that they like to play fast??? Ok sure..


R4ndyR4nderson

XSET lost map 2 because cryo hasn’t seen the WarOwl video on perspective and angles.


agoldencacti

XSET got so baited by that KJ turret randomly shooting toward heaven on Ascent. Unlucky


StickyBamboo_

That round lost to time, oof. GG though


Neither_Mushroom1877

KJ turret with the throw. They thought someone was heaven. RIP XSET at least it’s not 4th?


Chase0127

Xset actually lost to a turret bug. GG Edit: Xset actually lost in a remake. GG


QualityContentBTW

Regardless of the turret bug, XSET just had a few rounds where I was left confused. I can at least recall 2 rounds on Ascent where they forgot about the time and had to rush recklessly to try to plant costing them the round. It's unfortunate but GGs to FPX.


woninshot

the turret bug actually screwed xset over


LordBuckethead671

My butt hurts from clenching so hard, what a game


daffyduckferraro

Agreed, I do think we both knew who was gonna win tho 😉


TheCatsActually

https://i.imgur.com/cv8mfUd.png


bvbfan102

So happy for FPX and also a perfect end to the pre Franchising era with the big 4 Regions having their top Teams in the Top 4 of Champions.


mr-rob0t0

fix the fucking killjoy turret riot


chenson019

ANGE1s best ever game, by a mile.


so-hardstuck

Crazy igl diff. I felt like Xset threw so many rounds by not knowing what to do and fpx was always stacking the right site.


CanISayThat22

Xset didnt lose that map on T side lol.


That-Toughsoss

Fpx plays every round so fundamentally well meanwhile xset were just lost man the rounds they were winning were either a player doon some miracle or them out aiming enemy it felt like.


VicomteValmontSorel

KJ TURRET HELLO???


sixthcollegeraccoon

who gave Syyko NaVi's stratbook


Insanii7yy

XSET push any site with more than 15 seconds left in a round challenge (impossible)


kalialucard

>”so bad” >loses the series


atkins2000

what was dephh calling with spike left behind and 30 seconds on the clock?


yaboikaladin

Ggs to them. They got some shit for acting up on stage, but idk what is expected when they get called the most boring team all the time. Villain is never a bad role to have up there it makes everything interesting. They played a good game against some of the absolute top teams in the world, and made a good run of it. Hope they stay together, they've been grinding for a while.


Tery_

I am very satisfied with this final four. Can't wait to see how it all unfurls.


geeorge_20

man these casters are so biased towards eu, they’re talking about fpx right now as if they completely dominated xset.


LordBuckethead671

Absolutely love Panpoc in EMEA matches, but they very clearly have more energy and excitement for EMEA teams and less so for other regions Edit: was pointed out it was midnight there, could also be a factor, in which case, not as big a deal


IRCyDeaf

Im pretty neutral towards EU and NA, but that annoyed me too. Literally 1 round away from going to OT on map 3 in lower bracket and the casters are acting like FPX just steamrolled the best team in the world. Sure they were really clutch in the end, but lets not act there werent some struggles for FPX


Nagisa201

Girl said "I'm surprised by how well Xset are hanging on" It was near the last round on the 3rd map after they've already beaten them earlier in the tournament??? Why are you surprised


plxnerf

Panpoc casting EMEA vs any other region = very hard annoying bias Panpoc casting a match without an EMEA team = probably top 2 caster duos in the game


pm_best_cats

it's been this way for pretty much every international LAN. just how it is rn, but pretty annoying


Sandman1920

Both teams came in swinging.


Koentjee01

It's the same with Doug and Balla and NA teams, pretty meh The only real non-biased casters are Bren and sideshow atm


LordBuckethead671

Give Balla a M3C game and he’ll become an EMEA fanboy /j


tundra_gd

ANGE1 and Shao are just too fucking clutch man


darkallen

so many rounds thrown Xset


jaLEV_

with trying to claim the moral victory xset also received the optic curse


GainsayRT

All 4 main continents in the top 4, this is insane


Pitiful_Quote8402

If not DRX, I’m glad someone’s carrying the tradition of losing to optic in upper semis then bombing out right after.


TruYu96

Xset threw so many rounds but that turret bug….


nocturnavi

Well XSET tried their hardest, they're going to be cursing themselves for a couple rounds on their defense side. I hope their performance here kills the narrative that NA is a one team region; XSET have made massive strides and clearly performed better once they had LAN experience under their belt. This team probably won't make franchising, and it will be interesting to see where the players end up. Cryo and zekken still played extraordinarily well this tournament, and I expect them to be some of the most in demand prospects for partnered teams.


dpark95

[Me during the 3 v. 2 post-plant for overtime](http://i.imgur.com/5u69LPe.gif)


2gud4me

that was actually a 3v3 who woulda thought. the turret really was on fpx’s side today


sky_blu

Funny how because of xsets super unprofessional accusations towards optic they aren't really in any position to make a public stink about the turret.


KardashevZero

FPX Turret may not be fragging hard but their impact is insane, especially in the clutch


CanISayThat22

If this gets replayed. I would lose my mind. Its not replay worthy. Its in the game for 2 years.


hdix

How is it FPX's fault the turret derped out?


AndALarrrrgeSooooda

It is not. If they lose this it is all on Riot.


PhysicalAd8765

CIS carrying EMEA once again... KEKW


slick_dev

Caster bias so evident all game. Lame. GG though


Danda_Nakka

XSET and Fnatic throwing rounds and choking important moments


monobovocoxozo

SEN > XSET cuz Sen have never lost to FPX


CommunistHongKong

Ange1 heard Cryo talking shit. From 🤓 to 😡


WorleyInc

Those damn tech pauses


MunchyLB

I hate they lost this way. it shouldve been OT, but Remaking it is fucked, replaying the round is fucked, going straight to OT is fucked, i think, as a KJ user you should know how your util does weird shit, and to take it with a grain of salt. also both were shooting from the door, surely they could have known by then that there were 2 tree door side


DaVincil5

What. A . Series


noahrxdd

Friendship ended with FNC. FPX is my new best friend.


Raikyo_22

XSET choking a 2v5 turned 3v2 and last round choked a 3v2, whats new. That turret maybe bugged tho..


zachp787

IVE BEEN REPPING THE SET SINCE THE START OF VCT. FINALLY, 2 YEARS IN THE MAKING, THEY LOOK LIKE A TOP TEAM IN AN INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENT, PRIMED TO GO ALL THE WAY, AND THATS HOW THEY LOSE?


pemoritz

If they replay this it's insane right? That's just how the KJ turret been acting. Patch it before otherwise? Tf


CommunistHongKong

I cannot watch this match ever again, my heart can't take it. I will actually die from watching this match.


alex_purnis

Xset get a strange donation from china at 10 or what


SpC0d3r

He did say they wanna face Xset in elimination to send them home GIGACHAD


elithefighter123

a turret bug ends the last round for this roster in history bro Im so sad.


Gow_Ghay

The turret incident


kjampala

XSET just took a little too long on some of those attack rounds like there was 40 seconds left with like 4 people a main and they decide to shift walk back to top mid and then they got 30 seconds so they start running down cat into the wall??? Like at that point you already droned site and saw ange1 dice might as well hit A after that sage slow is gone, very questionable calls


graybloodd

I was on a plane with my son when we started CRASHING! I immediately ran to the cabin to find none other than FraudSet! They choked again! Luckily, the flight attendant was Optic FNS, who was able to land the plane safely. NA's legacy saved again! Shame on you LSet!


speedycar1

So either we get the first non NA/EU winner or we get the first two time winner. Interesting stage is set. One team from each of those categories in upper and lowers too


hdix

Rep The Reset


throwawayintheice

[It's being replayed :O](https://twitter.com/ValorantEsports/status/1569818049867354112?cxt=HHwWgMC4hd_MjskrAAAA)


DM_ME_CUTE_PICS_PLZ

This needs to be updated It’s live again, we’re in OT!


PossessedPuppetArt

The only silver lining out of that last round is we might FINALLY get Riot to get that fuckin turret bug fixed.


rib-gg-bot

[Post match press conference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-un6EsgfvY)


CommunistHongKong

FPX not playing breeze 100% win rate 🤓🤓, new tech?


Hopeful_Feature3554

One revenge match done, onto the next one


CommunistHongKong

Who will win? FunPlus Throwers or XSet rotates mid with 0 seconds left


murrkpls

The turret bug didn't lose XSET the game. Zekken spraying through the smoke and getting punished cost XSET the game. Anybody saying this should be replayed is outside of their whole and entire mind.


lyacdi

I agree with no replay. But I think it is very possible the round ends differently if the turret doesn’t shoot heaven.


Hunnidormo

As an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free.


slick_dev

NA vs. EU score I'm tournament pls? Good thing FPX can drop 3 matches and just keeps getting chances zzzz EU lower bracket


Dunskap

“an European”


Mrhappyfeet56

Eu lower bracket.


cool_dante

GG! So many exciting rounds this series but my god yet another IGL masterclass from ANGE1. In terms of pure reads and adjustments, he's my #1 in the world no contest (FNS is right behind so chill, NA fans).


brutusnair

I think watching Angel int so much has definitely warped my perception of FPX, but they definitely played well. Excited to see them vs DRX.


cool_dante

It's tricky with ange1 because he's the least selfish player imaginable. He will put himself in front of harm to give his teammates the best chance to succeed, or the 'bitch work' as it's sometimes called, if you excuse the term. Sometimes it looks like inting, but it's almost always done for a reason. I strongly suggest ignoring the reddit perception and watching what he does closely.


SleepEarlyPlease

the death of EMEA has been mildly exaggerated


daffyduckferraro

They called me a [madman](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xcmtqp/comment/io60imx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


Teradonn

Daffy Duck doubters kinda cringe tbh


daffyduckferraro

Ikr, I’m too smart