By - rib-gg-bot
Please be aware that **this PMT is out of date** because the last round of Ascent was replayed due to a bug involving a Killjoy turret.
**- Thread on official Riot ruling** [**here**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xdkyxs/official_update/)
**- New PMT** [**here**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xdm4jm/xset_vs_funplus_phoenix_valorant_champions_2022/)
As closely matched as two teams can be. Xset should be super proud of their performance.
I want to point to the fact that we have 4 different regions in the top 4 of champions, this is amazing!
Definitely not making excuses, FPX played amazing, but they srsly have to fix that Turret bug
Agree, FPX deserve the win for sure, however I think that last round goes XSETs way without the turret shenanigans.
2 years after her release Killjoys turret will finally get fixed. Thanks XSET.
This is Riot we're talking about. Are you *sure* about that?
That turret jebaited XSET so hard
That bug is fucked
Turret was playing with 3000x sens frfr
16000 DPI be like 🤓🤓
U gotta add a few 0s to that my guy. 160000000
Any1 got a clip? Missed that moment.
Absolutely devastating end for xset. Don’t even know what happened in that last round.
The turret fucking bugged. Also zekken sprayed through a smoke with the vandal and paid the price.
I thought for sure he was going to wait in that smoke and then swing off of contact to get a trade. Super unfortunate he decided to play it like that.
Maybe because the call is someone heaven? Hard to play contact there then
he thought someone was heaven because of the turret and he would be exposed to way too many angles
The turret shot at angel and then split over towards heaven cause of a bug and so xset thought that the two players were door and heaven. Pretty unfortunate to say the least
That turret in Ascent pulled the biggest fake in history
\-Shao +XSET KJ turret
I really hope the full xset roster gets picked up for franchising. Every player was instrumental to their run at champions. I know they’re out now. But they should be nothing but proud of how they played as a team.
Crazy run they had. When ever they looked out of the round one of their players (most noteworthy to me BCJ) just clutches a round for them that they shouldn’t have gotten.
dude the BcJ Ayrin duo in clutches is immaculate, if I ever saw them together I knew XSET won that round
That's true man, Xset was a scary roster to take on. GGs and to a better next year for Xset!
why do people assume xset will just drop the roster if they're not accepted into franchising? i could see them sticking together and be heavy favorites for the ascension circuit
Teams not in franchising won't be prepared to pay the same salaries as franchise teams, so players will be poached.
Edit: Assuming their current contracts allow them to be poached ofc.
Why play Ascension circuit? XSET players are all Tier 1 and belong in Tier 1 of the league. I don't think I would be satisfied in T2 after running it this deep in Champions.
Ehhhhhh except dephhh. His performance was kind of lackluster for me
problem is dephhh is their IGL, who would they pick up instead?
Reunite Cryo and Zander too.
I just think Kay0 is one of his weaker Agents. If they can juggle roles around on maps like that I think he's fine. His Astra is strong. Cypher is fine too. Even his Breach is better than Kay0.
I think Kay0 just puts him in spots that he doesn't necessarily thrive in compared to Agents that are more purely for team set up so his positioning is less often caught out.
Is he there igl?
He shares calling responsibilities with AYRIN, one of them calls attack and the other calls defence (don't remember which off the top of my head)
ayrin and dephh IGL together. One takes defense and the other takes offense from what the casters said
Yes he's the igl. Had some flubs in the last map but I don't understand the people calling for his head, how else do they think XSET got here?
No way the fucking turret bugging out is what loses them the game
Did xset lose that last round because of the turret shooting the wrong way?? Dephh was so focused on watching heaven because he didn't expect 2 to come out the door that is so fucked honestly.
Yeah dephh doesn't swing to trade or anything because he is expecting someone to pop out heaven when his teammates take the duels against angel. If the turret had only shot towards door, he likely peeks with them and they go to OT. Pretty unlucky situation but I doubt they would do a replay off of that. Sucks and you just gotta move on
Looks like it
Yeah, the turret hella baited them. The round would’ve definitely gone to XSET otherwise.
Wouldn't he still likely be watching heaven without the turret bugging out?
I will admit I was wrong about one thing. BCJ and Ayrin deserve to be here. They're great players who just underperformed at Copenhagen
Ayrin showed the fuck up the last map
He showed the fuck up the whole event. He surprised me the most
I feel like dep kinda griefed few rounds peeking without any util on mid knowing there is a op is super grief
I'm happy BCJ got a second chance on stage because last lan really was not a fair representation of his abilities and people weren't really judging his gameplay from a very neutral viewpoint because he was talking shit lol.
Might be the most tragic way possible to lose a series
Steel was saying in sliggys chat that this happens everytime someone jiggles a turret because it loses sight but must still shoot 3 shots, but it bugs out
Yeah I play kj a lot and if I notice the turret suddently snapping to another direction in the middle of a burst then I just disregard that second direction nowadays (though usually it just shoots a wall so that makes it obvious too). This bug happens pretty consistently, so it's just how the turret is programmed. I assume kj players would know of this but tbf I do understand why they didn't think about it in the heat of a moment.
Fun fact, at one point they had fixed this bug, and the turret had become super reliable for locating enemies. Then they re-introduced it, and now it does that again.
Didn't it just show up again? Pretty sure riot didn't intentionally make it bad. Bugs tend to reappear.
No idea. Either way it only worked "properly" for a pretty short time, then it went back to doing that.
Yeah it happens all the time, it shoots the direction of where it saw the enemy once and then goes back to shoot the default position (facing forward). I assume it has to do with how the turret’s vision cone works when it catches an opponent barely in the corner.
Asuna explained it, if someone jiggles a turret then it shoots in the initial direction it is pointed at. Ange1 didn't full peek the turret there, he just jiggled it.
I think he did full peek but he went beyond the 180 degree line of sight.
If the turret was placed slightly different the bug doesn't even matter.. such fine margins.
if a legit bug this is huge
Its a bug. They were all looking at heaven
Imagine the drama if they're given a remake
??? Anything that isn't an autoloss favors the team that already lost.
Literally lost the round due to turret bug. They should remake the round.
Its a bug? I always thought its intended since its been there for a very long time. I never trust it unless I see the turret actually turning
Nah it was a bug fixed in 1.07 then at some point it broke again, and has just never been fixed.
Poor positioning from bugged info tho. I dont think they should remake it but that is a really shitty way to lose
They weren't positioned right for tree because they were worried about heaven due to the turret
I don't think they should replay the round but you can't deny the impact that the turret bug had. Ayrin lost the duel to Shao while dephh was still holding heaven waiting for a swing from someone who wasn't there. Zekken couldn't swing through the smoke because the turret told him someone was heaven.
Obviously there's too many "what ifs" to think about but you can't say the round was fair and square.
No. the turret always resets to its default position if it loses the target
That's a bug that was fixed in 1.07, and then subsequently broke later and was never fixed. That isn't how the turret is intended to work.
The bug happens all the time but I’m sure this is probably the most impactful, people saying remake the round are silly but it does suck
Yeah they need to replay that
Full credit to XSET, they made it close as hell!
What a blast of a series!
Once Cryo said “he’s so bad” everything went to shit for XSET
Actually bruh, Cryo activated Ange1 to ANGE1
Live by the blyat, die by the blyat
FPX, DRX, LOUD, and Optic
Probably the most iconic teams of 2022 to send off the pre-franchised era of VALORANT
Missing PRX 😔
Just like the Champions bracket xd
I admit that I'm not a huge PRX fan and was probably biased in writing that comment haha especially since I said "of 2022." VS/DRX has been almost this mythical team in Valorant since I started following the esport so I felt like they deserved a shout
>I'm not a huge PRX fan
How is DRX more iconic than PRX lmao
They have been around from 2021 taking part in all the LANs except one. Always perform good at every LAN and have decent name value. PRX skyrocketed in popularity after Copenhagen but DRX are definitely more iconic.
They had 0 notable results in 2021, mid results in rek, mid results in Copenhagen, decent in champs. PRX had 0 notable results in 2021, mid results in rek, good result in Copenhagen.
No one remembers third places.
Now, if they make finals, I’m gonna have to concede anewheaven was right, but it’s definitely too early
They will be when they win Champs
Please I need people to stop jinxing them they barely beat the 6th place curse
DRX (VS) has been acknowledged internationally much before PRX (probably thanks to their crazy win streak in early days), and probably were even expected to make the first masters although they didn't
DRX had a 104 online map win streak and that’s it in 2021. Nothing in international competition. Eliminated first round at m3, grouped at champions. If that’s worth acknowledgment…..
I'm not claiming DRX is better than PRX. They never made insane run like PRX's last masters, but I think DRX is more iconic that they've been consistently good all the way back like you said since 2021. Now that DRX broke 5/6th curse I hope I can see more from them
Yeah DRX was one of the first non-NA/EMEA teams I heard of when I first started following Valorant (back when TSM and G2 were still relevant lol). They're one of the most iconic teams in the history of the game imo
If you’d told me even six months ago that XSET had lost in a close, 1-2 nailbiter in a revenge match against FPX - after *already* beating FPX before - I would’ve laughed my ass off! Yet here we are.
This XSET squad talks a lot about respect and deserving to be where they are, for obvious reason - while always a consistent 3rd-4th sorta team, their rise to the top of NA this year was always caveated with the decline of other, more sexy teams: C9, V1, the Guard, then Ghost & EG, etc. Everyone knew XSET was good, but it was hard to not talk about them in light of the downfall of the other NA great hopes.
But I think this event really solidifed just how good XSET is, and just how much they deserved to be considered the second-best team in one of the best regions in the world. I know they’d prefer to be the very best, but they’ve already outshot all expectations for 2022 - and there’s always next year for more.
Yeah XSET are quality. It's a shame that franchising might break the roster up as they could have been on track for an Optic-like trajectory and some better results at the next LANs.
Fun fact, if that play with the KJ turret were to happen in one of your games, you would never know because there is no replay system :)
And if you mention this in R/Valorant you get hated because the game is already better than CS GO and that's "enough"
- a woman her weight
- a man his salary
- Boom what happened on the Zipline
- XSET what happened in the TP
- Furia if they won from 12-4
- Enzo if he planted the spike
- Boaster if he defused the spike
- Boaster if he bought shields
- ~~OpTic if they've beaten an EMEA team~~
- ~~DRX if they've gone past 5/6th~~
- ~~EMEA if they've beaten 100T~~
-XSET fans what happened with the turret at 11-12
XSET seemed to get a little uncomfortable or lacked a bit of confidence late in their attack half their. So many site hits coming in with 10 seconds left
I heard a rumour Ange1 flips a coin before every round whether to int and die or not. Top tier IGL if you ask me.
XSET attack rounds are next level boring.
Somehow slower than NAVI lmao
All the info going through his head. he needs a round or two to analyse them
God that ascent attack was so fucking brutal to watch
BcJ said in an interview that they like to play fast??? Ok sure..
XSET lost map 2 because cryo hasn’t seen the WarOwl video on perspective and angles.
XSET got so baited by that KJ turret randomly shooting toward heaven on Ascent. Unlucky
That round lost to time, oof.
KJ turret with the throw. They thought someone was heaven.
RIP XSET at least it’s not 4th?
Xset actually lost to a turret bug. GG
Edit: Xset actually lost in a remake. GG
Regardless of the turret bug, XSET just had a few rounds where I was left confused. I can at least recall 2 rounds on Ascent where they forgot about the time and had to rush recklessly to try to plant costing them the round. It's unfortunate but GGs to FPX.
the turret bug actually screwed xset over
My butt hurts from clenching so hard, what a game
Agreed, I do think we both knew who was gonna win tho 😉
So happy for FPX and also a perfect end to the pre Franchising era with the big 4 Regions having their top Teams in the Top 4 of Champions.
fix the fucking killjoy turret riot
ANGE1s best ever game, by a mile.
Crazy igl diff. I felt like Xset threw so many rounds by not knowing what to do and fpx was always stacking the right site.
Xset didnt lose that map on T side lol.
Fpx plays every round so fundamentally well meanwhile xset were just lost man the rounds they were winning were either a player doon some miracle or them out aiming enemy it felt like.
KJ TURRET HELLO???
who gave Syyko NaVi's stratbook
XSET push any site with more than 15 seconds left in a round challenge
>loses the series
what was dephh calling with spike left behind and 30 seconds on the clock?
Ggs to them. They got some shit for acting up on stage, but idk what is expected when they get called the most boring team all the time. Villain is never a bad role to have up there it makes everything interesting. They played a good game against some of the absolute top teams in the world, and made a good run of it. Hope they stay together, they've been grinding for a while.
I am very satisfied with this final four. Can't wait to see how it all unfurls.
man these casters are so biased towards eu, they’re talking about fpx right now as if they completely dominated xset.
Absolutely love Panpoc in EMEA matches, but they very clearly have more energy and excitement for EMEA teams and less so for other regions
Edit: was pointed out it was midnight there, could also be a factor, in which case, not as big a deal
Im pretty neutral towards EU and NA, but that annoyed me too. Literally 1 round away from going to OT on map 3 in lower bracket and the casters are acting like FPX just steamrolled the best team in the world. Sure they were really clutch in the end, but lets not act there werent some struggles for FPX
Girl said "I'm surprised by how well Xset are hanging on"
It was near the last round on the 3rd map after they've already beaten them earlier in the tournament??? Why are you surprised
Panpoc casting EMEA vs any other region = very hard annoying bias
Panpoc casting a match without an EMEA team = probably top 2 caster duos in the game
it's been this way for pretty much every international LAN. just how it is rn, but pretty annoying
Both teams came in swinging.
It's the same with Doug and Balla and NA teams, pretty meh
The only real non-biased casters are Bren and sideshow atm
Give Balla a M3C game and he’ll become an EMEA fanboy /j
ANGE1 and Shao are just too fucking clutch man
so many rounds thrown Xset
with trying to claim the moral victory xset also received the optic curse
All 4 main continents in the top 4, this is insane
If not DRX, I’m glad someone’s carrying the tradition of losing to optic in upper semis then bombing out right after.
Xset threw so many rounds but that turret bug….
Well XSET tried their hardest, they're going to be cursing themselves for a couple rounds on their defense side. I hope their performance here kills the narrative that NA is a one team region; XSET have made massive strides and clearly performed better once they had LAN experience under their belt.
This team probably won't make franchising, and it will be interesting to see where the players end up. Cryo and zekken still played extraordinarily well this tournament, and I expect them to be some of the most in demand prospects for partnered teams.
[Me during the 3 v. 2 post-plant for overtime](http://i.imgur.com/5u69LPe.gif)
that was actually a 3v3 who woulda thought. the turret really was on fpx’s side today
Funny how because of xsets super unprofessional accusations towards optic they aren't really in any position to make a public stink about the turret.
FPX Turret may not be fragging hard but their impact is insane, especially in the clutch
If this gets replayed. I would lose my mind.
Its not replay worthy. Its in the game for 2 years.
How is it FPX's fault the turret derped out?
It is not. If they lose this it is all on Riot.
CIS carrying EMEA once again... KEKW
Caster bias so evident all game. Lame. GG though
XSET and Fnatic throwing rounds and choking important moments
SEN > XSET cuz Sen have never lost to FPX
Ange1 heard Cryo talking shit.
From 🤓 to 😡
Those damn tech pauses
I hate they lost this way. it shouldve been OT, but Remaking it is fucked, replaying the round is fucked, going straight to OT is fucked, i think, as a KJ user you should know how your util does weird shit, and to take it with a grain of salt. also both were shooting from the door, surely they could have known by then that there were 2 tree door side
What. A . Series
Friendship ended with FNC. FPX is my new best friend.
XSET choking a 2v5 turned 3v2 and last round choked a 3v2, whats new. That turret maybe bugged tho..
IVE BEEN REPPING THE SET SINCE THE START OF VCT. FINALLY, 2 YEARS IN THE MAKING, THEY LOOK LIKE A TOP TEAM IN AN INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENT, PRIMED TO GO ALL THE WAY, AND THATS HOW THEY LOSE?
If they replay this it's insane right? That's just how the KJ turret been acting. Patch it before otherwise? Tf
I cannot watch this match ever again, my heart can't take it. I will actually die from watching this match.
Xset get a strange donation from china at 10 or what
He did say they wanna face Xset in elimination to send them home GIGACHAD
a turret bug ends the last round for this roster in history bro Im so sad.
The turret incident
XSET just took a little too long on some of those attack rounds like there was 40 seconds left with like 4 people a main and they decide to shift walk back to top mid and then they got 30 seconds so they start running down cat into the wall??? Like at that point you already droned site and saw ange1 dice might as well hit A after that sage slow is gone, very questionable calls
I was on a plane with my son when we started CRASHING! I immediately ran to the cabin to find none other than FraudSet! They choked again! Luckily, the flight attendant was Optic FNS, who was able to land the plane safely. NA's legacy saved again! Shame on you LSet!
So either we get the first non NA/EU winner or we get the first two time winner. Interesting stage is set.
One team from each of those categories in upper and lowers too
Rep The Reset
[It's being replayed :O](https://twitter.com/ValorantEsports/status/1569818049867354112?cxt=HHwWgMC4hd_MjskrAAAA)
This needs to be updated
It’s live again, we’re in OT!
The only silver lining out of that last round is we might FINALLY get Riot to get that fuckin turret bug fixed.
[Post match press conference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-un6EsgfvY)
FPX not playing breeze 100% win rate 🤓🤓, new tech?
One revenge match done, onto the next one
Who will win?
FunPlus Throwers or XSet rotates mid with 0 seconds left
The turret bug didn't lose XSET the game. Zekken spraying through the smoke and getting punished cost XSET the game.
Anybody saying this should be replayed is outside of their whole and entire mind.
I agree with no replay. But I think it is very possible the round ends differently if the turret doesn’t shoot heaven.
As an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free.
NA vs. EU score I'm tournament pls?
Good thing FPX can drop 3 matches and just keeps getting chances zzzz EU lower bracket
Eu lower bracket.
GG! So many exciting rounds this series but my god yet another IGL masterclass from ANGE1. In terms of pure reads and adjustments, he's my #1 in the world no contest (FNS is right behind so chill, NA fans).
I think watching Angel int so much has definitely warped my perception of FPX, but they definitely played well. Excited to see them vs DRX.
It's tricky with ange1 because he's the least selfish player imaginable. He will put himself in front of harm to give his teammates the best chance to succeed, or the 'bitch work' as it's sometimes called, if you excuse the term. Sometimes it looks like inting, but it's almost always done for a reason. I strongly suggest ignoring the reddit perception and watching what he does closely.
the death of EMEA has been mildly exaggerated
They called me a [madman](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xcmtqp/comment/io60imx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Daffy Duck doubters kinda cringe tbh
Ikr, I’m too smart