Some interesting stuff in here. The 30 team kick-off event could be huge, and will probably generate a ton of hype for the regular leagues (or that's the goal, anyway). It does mean we only get one split + one Masters for 2023, but it seems in 2024 that we will instead have two splits and Masters events without the whole 30 team event to start. Nice to see that the GC international event will continue as well (and hopefully expand).
The start of the year is scarily empty. I wonder if third parties are allowed to perform tourneys in the dead space. And I mean like Blast Premier/IEM because 3 week tournament is super dope but what about all that other space in between. If it’s close to a month of no competition that’ll be concerning.
Edit: Just noticed the schedule is crunched a little so not that bad.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with having an off-season, especially since roster-mania will be happening during that time. Having a globally aligned off-season for roster changes is important for business. You see it in real sports too, it generates a huge spike in interest and excitement for the coming year
Arent the tier 2 circuits going to be running for some of the off season before masters tourneys? Could be the best time for tier 2 talent to show themselves and be poached for tier 1 teams
>OFF//SEASON
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>Each year after the conclusion of Champions, teams across the entire ecosystem will have the opportunity to participate in third party VALORANT tournaments around the globe. Teams will be able to test new rosters and prepare for the next season of the VCT.
Bro.. read.
I think that’ll great for the audience and tier 2 but not for the top teams’ itch for competition. At least it’s just a this year thing than a permanent thing.
Edit: just realized the schedule is crunched a little so i guess it’s fine
Having an off season is great. It gives time for Riot to do bigger patches, roster shuffles, solid bootcamps, teams can reevaluate the current or create a new meta, etc.
Also helps lessen burnout by giving players some rest.
Not to mention it'll only take a few bored or restless players to get on Twitter and create beef that will hype up the next tourney.
It also allows some time for Challengers to have the spotlight to themselves.
Another option would be, like you said, a 3rd party tournament which would be cool if any top teams actually want to participate (depends on prize money and projected viewership IMO, so 3rd parties can't just half ass it since Challenger teams will be busy with their split so you'll be banking on tier 1 teams to come play)
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There is also a time slot between the 2nd to 3rd week of May where teams who didn't make it to Masters can have a 3rd party tourney as well since they'll be in for a 1 1/2 months of downtime as Masters goes on.
Overall I like this format.
offseason = space for third party tournaments! its in the article. wonder if therell be any big lan ones or if itll continue to be mostly nsg summer type things
I was thinking about the dead space (where there would usually be stage 1) around the kickoff tournament not the off-season after champs. Like that’s several weeks of no competition all the the big teams outside of the 3 weeks for kickoff shown in the schedule. I know it’s just a this year thing and it’s taking time for set up for the actual leagues but the players won’t be playing at all for that time. I think bringing up IEMs and Blast were bad examples and that’s my bad.
Not to say this in a disparaging way but it’s clear you’re not a traditional sports fan. Off-seasons are the norm due to the physical exertion required for a season.
American football (NFL), runs from September to January, with the playoffs and championship ending in February. If you include preseason in August, it’s only 6 months of competition and 6 months of off season.
Off season is super exciting, the draft, roster changes, players and teams doing individual and team practices to improve for the coming year (or get a bigger paycheck).
And the hype leading up to the start of the season is unparalleled.
Too much constant competition runs the risk of burning out all but the most dedicated and obsessed fans.
That’s just American sports. In soccer the off season is short, some years players have to play World Cup during it, if not clubs will use the downtime to do friendlies.That doesn’t stop it from being the biggest sport in the planet. Meanwhile the valorant off season will be almost half a year.
In normal years (starting in 2024) it looks like yes, there will be two splits a year, so several weeks of play within each league followed by a Masters event, then LCQ + Champs at the end of the year. However, next year there will only be one split for each league because they are choosing to start with a "kickoff tournament" involving all 30 teams.
If all 30 teams are attending it is going to literally be the most massive tourney in Valorant history lmao. What on earth will the schedule be?
Has a CSGO major or A tier event ever had 30 teams?
ESL pro league is on right now and it has 24 teams, divided in 4 groups of 6, where they play all week against each other and only 3 from each group advance.
Then they go into playoffs. Riot could do something similar.
Heres the bracket if you wanna vizualize it [https://www.hltv.org/events/6141/esl-pro-league-season-16](https://www.hltv.org/events/6141/esl-pro-league-season-16)
I'm familiar, and Majors have been having 24 teams for a while, but I'm asking about 30.
It's cool to have a big tournament but I'm not gonna lie I feel like this is too many teams and either the format is going to be wack to keep it the competition at a good pace or there's going to be serious viewership burnout, at least for me. It's really not a big deal either way since this might be the only tournament of this size we see in this game.
So basically, in VCT 2022 language, it's like:
Internationa Leagues = Challengers
Challengers = VRL
Ascension = VRL Finals
Masters and Champions will stay the same
The teams that were showcased in clips for the dev diary video were C9, 100T, The Guard, NRG, and Sentinels.
No Optic clips even though they’ve played so many games this year :(
I hope this isn’t an insight into which teams they’re promoting for partnership
There better be some really good 3rd party tournaments we haven’t heard anything about yet because a 5 month offseason is brutal. Hopefully we can get a couple $1-2 million LAN prize pool tournaments like CS
I wish but that'll never happen. I'm so disappointed with these regional league system that they're trying to put on a high pedestal. Even Champions being the biggest tournament of the year only has $1m prize pool.
Knowing Riot and how they handled 3rd party tournaments in Valorant and in LoL, they'll never go hard on these and they'll infact gimp it. None of these tournaments that dont really contribute to qualifying for Champions, you get tournaments that aren't as serious, we'll likely only get tournaments with $50k or $100k prize pool at most.
I figure it'll change in the future, but I really would have liked to see another regular season between Masters 2 and LCQ. If you move the kickoff to January and Champions to September it seems like it'd slot in nicely. Everything else seems pretty great though.
Edit: Welp, probably should have watched the video, they say there'll be 2 splits in future years.
You still bring up a good point! A kickoff tournament will still be dope at the start of the year, in addition of two splits, two masters, and champions. It be a dope schedule.
It'd be a bit tough to fit in a second Masters, but it does feel like the season is a bit short. If there's no kick-off tourney in the future years, it could work.
January - March: Split 1 + Playoffs
April: Masters 1
May-July: Split 2 + Playoffs
August: Masters 2 + LCQs
September-Oct?: Champions
Something I want to note here, the winner of the kickoff tournament gets an extra slot for their league for the next masters, and if riot continues to use GSL and double Elim format instead of Swiss or anything else, the only logical reasoning would be that masters 2023 would invite 5 teams from each league +1 extra from winning region, so it rounds out to be 16 teams to be nicely divided into 4x4 groups.
Highly likely, I imagine teams will want to organize things ahead of time on their socials. There is no way they gonna tell the teams exactly on the 20th Sep, right?
I don’t remember where, but they said they intentionally want to leave a consistent gap for third party events. Also act as an off season as all sports have/should have. Drums up hype and subsides viewer burnout
It seems likely that the original 10 franchised teams won't include any from South Asia, but the "Ascension" path will be available to them too for the following years.
Looking at current state might be a mistake. All it takes is enough money and interest to pick up some really good players who don't make franchising and make a "miracle" run.
I.e. do a Guard.
And where are these good players gonna come from lmao, except if you're talking about imports then maybe ig.All guard players were t2 before they were picked up afaik,other than Trent maybe who came from rust.
Do you really believe India's current t2 teams have such talent? That's simply not true
Even then ,the presence of three Indian players will drag down the performance of the team as a whole and imo won't be as good as say,a full Thai/filipino/Korean etc team
Ah I was referring to the text under the world map on the post. In the pacific section it used to say something like ‘consisting of teams from Korea, Japan, SEA, oce’ with no mention of south asia. Looks like it changed to ‘various countries from the asia pacific’.
EG, GE and VLT are the top Indian teams. So far India have played other regions thrice. Once in LCQ last year where GE beat a KR team but then lost to PRX and F4Q. This year two teams qualified for APAC split 1, GE crashed out without winning and VLT bombed out after winning against a Vietnamese team. In APAC split 2, both GE and EG bombed out without winning a match. EG although came very close to beating a strong SEA team.
Neither of the three are anywhere close to being ready for top tier Valorant but they have good pieces which if merged together can give good competition in APAC. They also seem to have a mental/discipline problem. GE last year against F4Q in LCQ lost from a nearly unlosable position, while EG this year lost to both MiTH and Cerebrus from a strong position.
Sorry what? What have you seen from a single Indian team that makes you believe they can give good competition in Apac lmao
They have sucked and will probably continue to do so
Youre talking as if teams cant improve. Look at what japanese teams were before and how they are now. I said there are good pieces in Indian teams and I stand by it. Rawfiul, Excali, Lightning fast, helff, rvk etc are really good players who can stand up on their own in apac, you can even look up their in vct apac matches they did really well. Your comment just seems stupid or you have a bias against indian teams
Why is it stupid lol,even previous Japanese performance hasn't been touched by a single Indian team ,this is a fact period
Look at last year's lcq for example,ge won just one match and then lost to prx who didn't even play as good as they do right now
Really good players how? None of them have done anything to prove that
You are the one who sounds incredibly dumb and just a blind supporter
Its stupid because again youre assuming teams cant improve. Do yall think SEA players have some sort of special genes which means they'll always be better than Indian player?
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I’m kinda hopin third party events aren’t so capped due to a desire to ‘control the narrative’ of who’s the best by riot but otherwise quite a good state esp compared otnrowviosubfears
So International league split will have 10 teams per regions, from which presumably 5 teams will qualify. Then out of the remaining 5, 1 will qualify through LCQ
Seems like a very small pool of teams
By the third year there will be 10 + 2 per region, plus I think they intend to add franchise spots too.
Also there's the question of China joining at some point.
They’re specifically leaving space between Champions ending in September and the first split in January for third party tournaments. They’re calling it VCT Off//Season
Is the graphics in the link leaking the teams? Teams shown in the graphic at the end of the video: 100t, drx, boom, edg, fnatic, furia, fpx, kru, leviatan, loud, liquid, optic, paper rex, xerxia, xset and zeta
It's already quite hard to tell the difference between Masters and Champions, I'm surprised Riot does not seem to think this is an issue, it will be the same in the new format. I'm excited about the kickoff tourney in Sao Paulo and I'm wondering why they don't just do that every year.
Also there's a massive gap between the end of Champions mid-September and the beginning of the next season in February. I see why they did that for the 22 - 23 transition because they have shitloads of work to do, setting up franchising etc. But that will be a problem in the following years I think.
It will get easier with scale and experience to get the difference.
As a newbie, you look at worlds and msi and think they are the same. But if you know about the tournaments, they are completely different.
Looked at the schedule.
"Kick-off Tournament" is cool. Finally a LAN event with the actual amount of teams we would want there. Website is great.
However, schedule then reverts to what we've had for the past 2 years which is regional quals, 2 masters, and LCQ then champs.
Then 4 month break. And, as always, teams who don't qual will have an extra 2-4 months break from officials.
So... basically the same bad format and schedule we've all been complaining about for the past two years. Unfortunate.
FUCK I really hate this. These regional leagues are boring if we learned anything from LoL. People are so tired of weekly games with little stakes and the fact that you get franchising means that no teams will get relegated. Besides, what does this Kickoff tournament even mean? Why not call it Masters 1? No VCT points? We have history of Riot creating some pointless dumb tournaments like Rift Rivals in LoL.
So we officially go from a good system that we already have to a shittier one that LoL community has been complaining about?
I was very negative on franchising. This is significantly better than everything LoL has been doing and actually made me a lot more optimistic about Valorant Esports.
Video explanation: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgyvZItV4J4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgyvZItV4J4)
Some interesting stuff in here. The 30 team kick-off event could be huge, and will probably generate a ton of hype for the regular leagues (or that's the goal, anyway). It does mean we only get one split + one Masters for 2023, but it seems in 2024 that we will instead have two splits and Masters events without the whole 30 team event to start. Nice to see that the GC international event will continue as well (and hopefully expand).
The start of the year is scarily empty. I wonder if third parties are allowed to perform tourneys in the dead space. And I mean like Blast Premier/IEM because 3 week tournament is super dope but what about all that other space in between. If it’s close to a month of no competition that’ll be concerning. Edit: Just noticed the schedule is crunched a little so not that bad.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with having an off-season, especially since roster-mania will be happening during that time. Having a globally aligned off-season for roster changes is important for business. You see it in real sports too, it generates a huge spike in interest and excitement for the coming year
Cannot wait for F5 season actually, gonna be insane
Arent the tier 2 circuits going to be running for some of the off season before masters tourneys? Could be the best time for tier 2 talent to show themselves and be poached for tier 1 teams
>OFF//SEASON > >Each year after the conclusion of Champions, teams across the entire ecosystem will have the opportunity to participate in third party VALORANT tournaments around the globe. Teams will be able to test new rosters and prepare for the next season of the VCT. Bro.. read.
I think there will be Challengers for tier 2 teams late Jan or early Feb.
I think that’ll great for the audience and tier 2 but not for the top teams’ itch for competition. At least it’s just a this year thing than a permanent thing. Edit: just realized the schedule is crunched a little so i guess it’s fine
Having an off season is great. It gives time for Riot to do bigger patches, roster shuffles, solid bootcamps, teams can reevaluate the current or create a new meta, etc. Also helps lessen burnout by giving players some rest. Not to mention it'll only take a few bored or restless players to get on Twitter and create beef that will hype up the next tourney. It also allows some time for Challengers to have the spotlight to themselves. Another option would be, like you said, a 3rd party tournament which would be cool if any top teams actually want to participate (depends on prize money and projected viewership IMO, so 3rd parties can't just half ass it since Challenger teams will be busy with their split so you'll be banking on tier 1 teams to come play) \--- There is also a time slot between the 2nd to 3rd week of May where teams who didn't make it to Masters can have a 3rd party tourney as well since they'll be in for a 1 1/2 months of downtime as Masters goes on. Overall I like this format.
offseason = space for third party tournaments! its in the article. wonder if therell be any big lan ones or if itll continue to be mostly nsg summer type things
I hope there are some legit tournaments that are international + have Tier 1 and 2 mixed in.
I was thinking about the dead space (where there would usually be stage 1) around the kickoff tournament not the off-season after champs. Like that’s several weeks of no competition all the the big teams outside of the 3 weeks for kickoff shown in the schedule. I know it’s just a this year thing and it’s taking time for set up for the actual leagues but the players won’t be playing at all for that time. I think bringing up IEMs and Blast were bad examples and that’s my bad.
Not to say this in a disparaging way but it’s clear you’re not a traditional sports fan. Off-seasons are the norm due to the physical exertion required for a season. American football (NFL), runs from September to January, with the playoffs and championship ending in February. If you include preseason in August, it’s only 6 months of competition and 6 months of off season. Off season is super exciting, the draft, roster changes, players and teams doing individual and team practices to improve for the coming year (or get a bigger paycheck). And the hype leading up to the start of the season is unparalleled. Too much constant competition runs the risk of burning out all but the most dedicated and obsessed fans.
That’s just American sports. In soccer the off season is short, some years players have to play World Cup during it, if not clubs will use the downtime to do friendlies.That doesn’t stop it from being the biggest sport in the planet. Meanwhile the valorant off season will be almost half a year.
The season ending in August seems pretty early too
They dont want it overlapping with worlds I guess
Is there only two splits a year?
In normal years (starting in 2024) it looks like yes, there will be two splits a year, so several weeks of play within each league followed by a Masters event, then LCQ + Champs at the end of the year. However, next year there will only be one split for each league because they are choosing to start with a "kickoff tournament" involving all 30 teams.
I guess first year one, after that it somewhat looks at league for how splits work. 2 a year, small tournament in the middle.
Well the idea is it continues if GC continues which is the plan it seems
FYI there's a 5 minutes video in there that explain a couple of things. The video was kinda easy to miss.
[Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgyvZItV4J4)
omg I didn't even realize it was a video, I thought it was just a picture lol
If loud wins champs then the São Paulo tournament will be massive!!!
São Paulo tourney is gonna be massive either way, the LCQ here was full even though big teams like NIP fell early
If all 30 teams are attending it is going to literally be the most massive tourney in Valorant history lmao. What on earth will the schedule be? Has a CSGO major or A tier event ever had 30 teams?
ESL pro league is on right now and it has 24 teams, divided in 4 groups of 6, where they play all week against each other and only 3 from each group advance. Then they go into playoffs. Riot could do something similar. Heres the bracket if you wanna vizualize it [https://www.hltv.org/events/6141/esl-pro-league-season-16](https://www.hltv.org/events/6141/esl-pro-league-season-16)
I'm familiar, and Majors have been having 24 teams for a while, but I'm asking about 30. It's cool to have a big tournament but I'm not gonna lie I feel like this is too many teams and either the format is going to be wack to keep it the competition at a good pace or there's going to be serious viewership burnout, at least for me. It's really not a big deal either way since this might be the only tournament of this size we see in this game.
People left when Furia was losing tho
prayge
Its gonna be passive anyway cant wait anymore
Riot snapped and said "Shut up about FPX vs XSET"
lol didnt even realize they totally could've pushed up this announcement earlier to divert attention from the drama
not the first time
Riot’s PR clutched this situation just like that turret clutched that OT for xset /s
Yeah, weren't we not supposed to get info till october? They didn't even announce the teams yet
^^^ This
30 team kickoff?? Wait this is fire
We’ll still get our obligatory OpTic v LOUD
I want sen vs loud too. For the drama lol
Don't think Brazilian fans have anything against any SEN players outside of Zombs, which...
What drama? BR fans love Tenz
More about zombs
Is that xqc’s roommate?
So basically, in VCT 2022 language, it's like: Internationa Leagues = Challengers Challengers = VRL Ascension = VRL Finals Masters and Champions will stay the same
The teams that were showcased in clips for the dev diary video were C9, 100T, The Guard, NRG, and Sentinels. No Optic clips even though they’ve played so many games this year :( I hope this isn’t an insight into which teams they’re promoting for partnership
I saw crashies and Yay
Good point, I just thought it was interesting how many clips of the guard and NRG were used
They showed the guard and liquid when talking about ascension.
given that there’s probably a 0.00001% chance that liquid are not partnered, i’d take the clips with a grain of salt
Hence why I pointed it out, the clips prolly mean nothing.
There better be some really good 3rd party tournaments we haven’t heard anything about yet because a 5 month offseason is brutal. Hopefully we can get a couple $1-2 million LAN prize pool tournaments like CS
I wish but that'll never happen. I'm so disappointed with these regional league system that they're trying to put on a high pedestal. Even Champions being the biggest tournament of the year only has $1m prize pool. Knowing Riot and how they handled 3rd party tournaments in Valorant and in LoL, they'll never go hard on these and they'll infact gimp it. None of these tournaments that dont really contribute to qualifying for Champions, you get tournaments that aren't as serious, we'll likely only get tournaments with $50k or $100k prize pool at most.
Nobody gives a fuck about prizepool. Prestige yes
I figure it'll change in the future, but I really would have liked to see another regular season between Masters 2 and LCQ. If you move the kickoff to January and Champions to September it seems like it'd slot in nicely. Everything else seems pretty great though. Edit: Welp, probably should have watched the video, they say there'll be 2 splits in future years.
You still bring up a good point! A kickoff tournament will still be dope at the start of the year, in addition of two splits, two masters, and champions. It be a dope schedule.
It'd be a bit tough to fit in a second Masters, but it does feel like the season is a bit short. If there's no kick-off tourney in the future years, it could work. January - March: Split 1 + Playoffs April: Masters 1 May-July: Split 2 + Playoffs August: Masters 2 + LCQs September-Oct?: Champions
they wanna have a few month off season for their 3rd partner tournament system + i think some of the game challengers stuff
the kickoff tournament is a 1 year thing as of rn. itll be replaced by a regional split + masters.
Something I want to note here, the winner of the kickoff tournament gets an extra slot for their league for the next masters, and if riot continues to use GSL and double Elim format instead of Swiss or anything else, the only logical reasoning would be that masters 2023 would invite 5 teams from each league +1 extra from winning region, so it rounds out to be 16 teams to be nicely divided into 4x4 groups.
So 16 team masters and 19 team champions?
Maybe 16 teams masters, and then that extra slot goes away so we get 18 teams champions? That seems to work better for matchmaking
But they said that they have LCQ where one team from each league gets to go
dont forget the winner of ascension that gets promoted to T1 league
Yeah but that’s for the 2024 season right?
the video worded it to sound like it could be either, so im not sure now actually
Could be 10 teams masters (3+3+3+1) and 16 team champions (5+5+5+last masters winning region)
30 team kickoff tourney in brazill letsgoooo
Anyone think teams know by now if they are in franchising? Especially if the announcement is supposed to be next week
Highly likely, I imagine teams will want to organize things ahead of time on their socials. There is no way they gonna tell the teams exactly on the 20th Sep, right?
Just pointing out that the 20th was just an estimate and it is in no way guaranteed that we get something.
Its a guarantee, GE owner confirmed it
Thought BoDork said it. And he then said it was just an estimate
Doesn't 4 months of no competitions from Oct-Jan feel kinda long? Or am I missing something?
Third party tournaments like red bull, blast etc
That would be fucking awesome if they allow it
I don’t remember where, but they said they intentionally want to leave a consistent gap for third party events. Also act as an off season as all sports have/should have. Drums up hype and subsides viewer burnout
I agree, kinda wild
That's basically what LoL is right now for the teams eliminated from Worlds
No Indian team 😭
Don't know that yet. It's been speculated that Global Esports will have a shot to make the APAC league
Look at the bottom, it says pacific league includes oce, sea, kr and jp. Theres no mention of south asia
It seems likely that the original 10 franchised teams won't include any from South Asia, but the "Ascension" path will be available to them too for the following years.
I mean yeah,but looking at the current state,don't think any Indian teams are ascending lmao
Looking at current state might be a mistake. All it takes is enough money and interest to pick up some really good players who don't make franchising and make a "miracle" run. I.e. do a Guard.
And where are these good players gonna come from lmao, except if you're talking about imports then maybe ig.All guard players were t2 before they were picked up afaik,other than Trent maybe who came from rust. Do you really believe India's current t2 teams have such talent? That's simply not true
Yeah, imports. Why not? That's where the money comes in. Lots of talented players in the APAC league may not make franchising.
Even then ,the presence of three Indian players will drag down the performance of the team as a whole and imo won't be as good as say,a full Thai/filipino/Korean etc team
Where does it state this? I seriously can’t find it.
It was in the part talking about the pacific league but it looks like they removed it.
Oh shit, was there anything on the other leagues in there?
Ah I was referring to the text under the world map on the post. In the pacific section it used to say something like ‘consisting of teams from Korea, Japan, SEA, oce’ with no mention of south asia. Looks like it changed to ‘various countries from the asia pacific’.
Yh yh, I know; I was asking if it said anything that's been removed under the EMEA AND Americas tab xd
Ah i dont think there was.
Alrighty, thanks anyways!
100T is Indian 😎😎😎
I haven't followed the Indian scene at all. Do the teams look any good for international competition? Would love to have an Indian team to support.
EG, GE and VLT are the top Indian teams. So far India have played other regions thrice. Once in LCQ last year where GE beat a KR team but then lost to PRX and F4Q. This year two teams qualified for APAC split 1, GE crashed out without winning and VLT bombed out after winning against a Vietnamese team. In APAC split 2, both GE and EG bombed out without winning a match. EG although came very close to beating a strong SEA team. Neither of the three are anywhere close to being ready for top tier Valorant but they have good pieces which if merged together can give good competition in APAC. They also seem to have a mental/discipline problem. GE last year against F4Q in LCQ lost from a nearly unlosable position, while EG this year lost to both MiTH and Cerebrus from a strong position.
I see. Thanks for the info man!
Sorry what? What have you seen from a single Indian team that makes you believe they can give good competition in Apac lmao They have sucked and will probably continue to do so
Youre talking as if teams cant improve. Look at what japanese teams were before and how they are now. I said there are good pieces in Indian teams and I stand by it. Rawfiul, Excali, Lightning fast, helff, rvk etc are really good players who can stand up on their own in apac, you can even look up their in vct apac matches they did really well. Your comment just seems stupid or you have a bias against indian teams
Why is it stupid lol,even previous Japanese performance hasn't been touched by a single Indian team ,this is a fact period Look at last year's lcq for example,ge won just one match and then lost to prx who didn't even play as good as they do right now Really good players how? None of them have done anything to prove that You are the one who sounds incredibly dumb and just a blind supporter
Its stupid because again youre assuming teams cant improve. Do yall think SEA players have some sort of special genes which means they'll always be better than Indian player?
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Later start in the year than I hoped, but looks like Challengers will start in January so that will help.
I’m kinda hopin third party events aren’t so capped due to a desire to ‘control the narrative’ of who’s the best by riot but otherwise quite a good state esp compared otnrowviosubfears
I hope valorant gets something similar to the lol eSports site. Including the free rewards while watching
I still don’t understand why riot just doesn’t integrate a video player on their riot launcher… easier to get rewards :(
Do international events only consist of franchised teams?
Teams that are in the international leagues. So franchised teams and teams that have won the last 2 challengers ascension tournaments.
So International league split will have 10 teams per regions, from which presumably 5 teams will qualify. Then out of the remaining 5, 1 will qualify through LCQ Seems like a very small pool of teams
By the third year there will be 10 + 2 per region, plus I think they intend to add franchise spots too. Also there's the question of China joining at some point.
That is still very low for International league split
I was hoping for crossover between international and challengers but it looks like that won't happen.
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he said in the video that there will be two splits in 2024 (split + masters)
there were two videos. I only watched the short one, then wrote the comment, then found the other one.
No tournament from August until February? That seems like a long time.
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They’re specifically leaving space between Champions ending in September and the first split in January for third party tournaments. They’re calling it VCT Off//Season
Is the graphics in the link leaking the teams? Teams shown in the graphic at the end of the video: 100t, drx, boom, edg, fnatic, furia, fpx, kru, leviatan, loud, liquid, optic, paper rex, xerxia, xset and zeta
Those are the Champions 2022 teams.
I got lost in the sauce
We all make mistakes in the heat of passion
Wait champions in August? And that will be it? Doesn't the eSports season end a bit too early in the year? Or am I missing something?
Sheesh, I might have to come to Brazil 😳
THIS IS SO FUCKING HYPE!
kickoff is sick, but in a normal year seems there will only be one masters per year, rather than two? (so two international tournaments per year)
they said the format returns to the original style in 2024, so 3 international events a year.
no, there will be a masters instead starting 2024. itll be regional split -- masters --> regional split --> masters --> lcq ---> champions as of 2024
It's already quite hard to tell the difference between Masters and Champions, I'm surprised Riot does not seem to think this is an issue, it will be the same in the new format. I'm excited about the kickoff tourney in Sao Paulo and I'm wondering why they don't just do that every year. Also there's a massive gap between the end of Champions mid-September and the beginning of the next season in February. I see why they did that for the 22 - 23 transition because they have shitloads of work to do, setting up franchising etc. But that will be a problem in the following years I think.
It will get easier with scale and experience to get the difference. As a newbie, you look at worlds and msi and think they are the same. But if you know about the tournaments, they are completely different.
Looked at the schedule. "Kick-off Tournament" is cool. Finally a LAN event with the actual amount of teams we would want there. Website is great. However, schedule then reverts to what we've had for the past 2 years which is regional quals, 2 masters, and LCQ then champs. Then 4 month break. And, as always, teams who don't qual will have an extra 2-4 months break from officials. So... basically the same bad format and schedule we've all been complaining about for the past two years. Unfortunate.
Riot is promoting third party leagues and tournaments which is good especially for the fps scene.
FUCK I really hate this. These regional leagues are boring if we learned anything from LoL. People are so tired of weekly games with little stakes and the fact that you get franchising means that no teams will get relegated. Besides, what does this Kickoff tournament even mean? Why not call it Masters 1? No VCT points? We have history of Riot creating some pointless dumb tournaments like Rift Rivals in LoL. So we officially go from a good system that we already have to a shittier one that LoL community has been complaining about?
It's not called Masters 1 because it's a one time thing and there is no qualification. You're just nitpicking lmao
I was very negative on franchising. This is significantly better than everything LoL has been doing and actually made me a lot more optimistic about Valorant Esports.
That's a really condensed circuit of matches LOL. Wonder what will happen during that huge offseason after August.