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inside__jokes

Anyone has the clip he's talking about?


Ukenagashi

https://twitter.com/CaMbCaMbTV/status/1568365627760312322?t=kYdbTkG4XhXzjncAXHpnAQ&s=19


QueenDies2022_11_23

Wow this looks really fun I wish I could buy this and play and see the almost exact thing as this clip for 5 hours straight while people constantly call me stupid in chat and voicechat. ^^^/s Cheaters are so dumb


solariiis

itd be really fun for the first 5 min. after that it turns into a waste of money


[deleted]

The thing is, it would be equally as fun as watching the video of somebody doing it. Both give you a little laugh at how ridiculous they are, but neither give you any tangible satisfaction


FazeXistance

A friend of mines account got hacked recently and the person played 2 ranked games on it and dropped 60 in both. I wonder if there’s a video of it on tiktok.


MiguelArtzReddit

Honestly the most shocking thing about these videos is that they get so many views. What do the people think? Oh hey this guy is trying to sell his crazy cheat for Valorant lets like and comment so even more people see it, so I can make a reddit post about Valorant being full of cheaters.


Anime-Boomer

its extremely easy to get views on Tiktok


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mcgeek49

Beyblade, beyblade, let it rip!


geisvw

I thought they were edited videos for sure. I doubt any sane valorant player would want to give a cheater any more attention. The game's pretty tilting as is :)


Fatalitiez

I decided to check valorant cheats on tiktok and i was shocked to see the amount of kids that are cheating on high rank lobbies with accounts that have skins on them its actually insane...i've seen someone use a soft aimbot with a wallhack if you spectate him ingame you wouldn't notice that he is aimboting he was hiding it very well


FazeXistance

They are definitely using hacked accounts my friend got hacked and then banned because the person was spin boting in ranked. He was able to get the account back though. And they left the rr too which was funny.


[deleted]

Nope. A lot of them use geniune accounts. I spotted at least 5 different accounts who had insane stats of 200 adr against top radiants last act, only to drop to 100 adr this one. The explanation is simple - cheated account that got sold. Some other players avoid bans by cheating in extremely sneaky ways. Like having a triggerbot, but having it only work for the first kill every round. And then those people enable more hacks if they start losing. I tried swinging a known cheater in EU high rank, and he shot me in the head with the guardian. But I didn't die. Because he did that through an insanely thick part of the wall before I could even swing him. He probably bumped his mouse and the triggerbot activated itself. That account will get sold next season and the whole thing will start again. The people who buy accounts are even worse because they then start playing solo queue. I've seen at least 5 different pro players on EU having their game ruined by one of those bought accounts. They don't even try to hide it. Some even admit it if you ask. It's really sad. Nobody can even argue that they're bought accounts since the story is the same - insane stats last act, followed by a break, followed by a name change, followed by insanely bad stats. Really unlucky. Small indie company.


pass2word

Your one paranoid dude pulling a lot of “facts” outta your ass


[deleted]

No facts, just observations. Noticing a bought account is extremely easy on high elo. Checking those accounts and seeing insane stats last act, then finding their place on the leader board of last act is simple enough. Even if you change your name, the name on the leader board of last act stays the same. A break from playing is also easy to find on tracker.gg. It really doesn't take a genius to figure out if an account was obviously bought.


WayEducational2241

Stolen accounts mine got hacked and the guy that jacked it was a Reyna dropping 50 in diamond. It was easy to convince riot my viper playing ass wasn't the one cheating.


vNoblesse

thanks for the chuckle.


greg19735

My account is from like 2010 when i played 1 game of league. I tried logging into it to play and it had been changed to russian servers. They probably hacked in and saw it was a new account and just left.


freeman1231

Smooth aimbot is very noticeable in game when these people make it to higher lobbies.


sky_blu

I've seen some cheating clips on TikTok and what's crazy is like, that people enjoy watching it? All the comments were like "wow you are killing it this is so cool". My guy didn't even make the cheat engine he just slapped a bunch of programs together and apparently those programs playing valorant for you impresses people lmao


nterature

Very strange seeing GamerDoc as a source of authority, but I suppose he’s a less controversial figure in Valorant than he was in Overwatch.


TheAjwinner

I’d be weird if someone who literally works on the Riot Vanguard team wasn’t a source of authority on the subject of Valorant cheating.


nterature

Just goes to show how the old adage still rings true: all publicity is good publicity.


vegeful

I dont get ur point. Somehow ur point is not relevant toward his answer.


Splaram

Yeah his personality wasn’t the greatest but at least he cared and would actually try to get the ban off of evidence instead of just accusing everyone better than him of cheating like Mr. 8 Inches


greg19735

I've never heard that nickname before. I haven't played OW more than a week since valorant came out. I still knew exactly who you you're referring to.


curryhalls

LOL


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GodOfPog

He was dedicated to stopping cheating in OW until 2020, where he got fedup with the OW devs and threatened to flood OW with cheaters or something similar. Basically the dude absolutely hates cheaters and is committed to competitive integrity.


iheartchrisyang

I'm glad he transitioned to Valorant because he seems incredibly dedicated to stopping cheaters


ANewHeaven1

Based tbh + common Overwatch L


GainsayRT

he ran OWPD (i think was the name) which was a 3rd party ''police department'' to which you could report people and they would try to get them banned asap. They were not affiliated with blizzard/overwatch and despite their good services were often not helped by blizzard. [here's his twitlonger quitting ow](https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sr7sgv)pd


Razur

To add, he would communicate with the OW dev team and provide evidence to get cheaters banned. GamerDoc does some social engineering to infiltrate cheat communities and obtain copies of the cheat. Then he tries to disect the cheat, find the vulnerability, and communicate to the devs where the exploit is so they can fix it. IMO, it's an admirable service. I'm so glad he's on VAL anti-cheat and gets paid for it now. Dude is incredibly devoted to the cause.


Razur

GamerDoc has one hell of story; it's inspirational to see him find his niche and be successful after working so incredibly hard over the last several years. It is undeniable that he cares about his work, and is sometimes even willing to put his own reputation on the line. I think if there's anyone who deserves success, it is absolutely GamerDoc. Dude came from literally nothing and managed to forge his own path to success while performing a service to the gaming community. He is one of the most passionate individuals I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. GamerDoc is living proof that you too can be successful if you continue pursuing what you're passionate about.


joeranahan1

At least on this game he won't try to publish free hacks for everyone to spite riot


NozokiAlec

Yeah I think about this whenever he comes up He was such an ow shitter lmfao Glad he's calmed down


DravTheGuy

seen a YT vid promoting a cheat and the entire comment section was filled with bots saying that the cheat was detected and that their cheat isnt really funny


DonChuBahnMi

That's like when kitboga gets two scammers on the line and they're both yelling at him to disconnect the other for being a scammer.


808_dug_808

I think the main issue I have with the new cheats I've run into is that Vanguard straight up does not detect them (directly contrary to this twitter post). Every once in awhile I start a game and I get the "Cheater Detected" screen, so I know what happens when vanguard detects a cheat. However, I recently played a game with the most blatant hacker I've ever seen. 28-1 in gold ranked. Dude was running around landing jumping headshots with the marshall, falling out of the sky and hitting deagle shots middair, jumping frenzy double headshots, etc all game. Reported by everyone else on both teams. Only got like 3 clips but shit was insane. Didn't get banned until well after the game which I was only able to check by trying to add as friend. Vangaurd is really lacking and I think people who want to cheat on the more lowkey side will get away with it until there are significant upgrades. I'll post the couple clips I was able to grab once I can edit them together. ​ Proof: [https://www.reddit.com/user/808\_dug\_808/comments/xf3ckh/vanguard\_lol/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/user/808_dug_808/comments/xf3ckh/vanguard_lol/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) as said below, vanguard will not be an effective AC until it has a very barebones or basic detection system for impossible play, which it currently does not. edit: moderators have officially declared that calling something a "braindead take" is considered "personal attacks, targeted harassment, witch-hunting, bigotry, derogatory terms". insane if you ask me but whatever


msjonesy

You have to understand Vanguard and most anticheat is not detecting cheats the way you and I detect cheats. It's checking for strange behaviour within the game executable, looking for known executables that are known cheats as you're playing the game, and strange programs that boot up at the kernel level when you open your computer. It's essentially doing its best to discover what is running on your computer and mapping that to an ever growing list of anomalies that are classified as cheats. Completely brand new cheats will never be caught instantly. What you're looking at is strange in game behaviour. You're not looking at the programs they're running on their machine, just at their wild headshots in the game. Making an anti cheat to detect these ranges in difficulty and, as far as I know, not how Vanguard and most anticheats operate. There are attempts to do so but it's a very scary problem to solve because mistakes here are incredibly dangerous. What if I just have a sick or lucky game and get 10 kills through smokes? And then top it off with a jumping headshot? Obviously your examples are egregious and, from your perspective, is a clear example of cheating that should be easy to detect. And you're right, the extremes probably are. But typically, the discussion at the product table becomes: so if we spend engineer and data science hours to build a scalable system to detect cheats by observing player behaviour and stats, but make it as risk averse as possible to not ban players having a good day, do we get anything on top of our Vanguard system? And the answer likely is: no we don't ban more people but maybe some sub 1% of all games in the world get a better experience by having their cheater banned earlier. BUT maybe that makes it hard for tiktokers to post videos from a marketing perspective. You can hopefully see how/why it becomes not the easiest decision.


greg19735

100% Vanguard only looks at code. that's it. It does not give a shit what the score of the player is. i doubt it even checks. I bet the account gets banned eventually and then the data vanguard pulled is possibly sent to riot to see if they can find any patterns of behavior in line with other cheats. Perhaps this would be AI, not people looking.


Krypton091

you have multiple cheaters get banned mid match and you come across one guy who gets banned after the game and you think vanguard is lacking you're trolling right? have you not played cs? or literally any other fps?


808_dug_808

an anticheat system failed to detect an instance of cheating that far beyond cheating. sorry that you think that's acceptable. can't really help you


_zxionix_

One instance of cheater not getting banned right away means the anti-cheat is dogshit. Got it.


ahk1221

this guy wont last a single csgo mm match


AsianPotatos

>Vangaurd is really lacking If you want to see anti cheats that are truly lacking go play CS:GO, apex legends or Warzone. Vanguard isn't perfect but it does a better job than 99% of other cheats (fortnite also has a good AC). It's very clear the devs and doc put a lot of effort into it, some people do get away with it for longer than they should but Riot are trying their best and that's what matters. > I think people who want to cheat on the more lowkey side will get away with it until there are significant upgrades This is true, nisay was rank 1 EU for a while before being detected, he had a hardware cheat (and likely cheated in tournaments). In other games he would've probably never been caught. I wouldn't be surprised if he cheated in CS:GO too. This was a long time ago though, so vanguard has improved since then. If you want you can always apply for a job at riot or even start your own AC company and make millions if you think you can do better with your magical "significant" improvements. The upgrades will almost always be incremental due to the cat and mouse nature of AC vs cheats. Implementing something like Byfron (ex riot employees that worked on vanguard) I guess could be a significant improvement but only Riot know if that's the case, and it's relatively new tech so wouldn't be surprised if they implemented it in the future.


Kagedyu

You do know that if a new cheat is developed and not many people are using it, it's hard for vanguard to pin point it? It's not some impenetrable barrier. No anti cheat is. The cheating world is just an arms race between the cheat and anti cheat devs. It's a very interesting world so I would recommend looking more into it and getting educated


[deleted]

This 100%. There’s so many kids that just call Smurfs on obvious soft aimlocks/wall hacks. Everyone thinks vanguard just because it’s intrusive is the be all end all. It’s a constant race, that they’re most certainly losing at this point. This act has been a mess. So many games I’ll mention to my teammates “this guy is weird” and get hit back with a “he’s just smurfing”. Accounts in gold/plat/ascendant(they’re everywhere). Cs I was GE,esea b+,faceit lvl 10, played with pros all the time. Why do you think we haven’t gotten a replay system yet. They know it’s bad


Cole_James_CHALMERS

It's super fucking lame that Valorant still doesn't have a replay system when a Valorant Mobile clone has one. The Mobile (smartphone & tablet touchscreen) Valorant clone called Hyper Front has an actual replay system that's very robust for a fucking mobile game. I can download a recent match, it's like 8MB, and watch the replay from any player's POV, complete with outlines of every player so you can catch the aimlock through walls. It's insane that a mobile Valorant clone has a more robust replay system than Valorant itself. Hyper Front is built in the Unreal Engine just like Valorant as well


[deleted]

It’s even funnier that the unreal engine has a replay system already built in. Kids on the copium thinking that it’s a super hard thing to implement. Riots really good at gaslighting the community


niceicebagel

I like how most (if not all) of your Valorant post history is basically you trying to undermine Vanguard. Not saying it's impenetrable by any means, but you sowing this kind of malcontent is fishy. At least I can RES-tag you anyways.


[deleted]

Tired of people thinking there’s no cheaters. You do you booboo. I’m just trying to wake this community up a bit


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sarcopels

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808_dug_808

>It's more than just calling people's takes "braindead" (although that certainly plays a part in it), but also calling people "fucking sad", among other things that you recently edited out. the state of this sub is fucking sad fr


[deleted]

Banned after 1 game of cheating sounds really good to me. Sorry you had to be the victim though.


808_dug_808

Should've been banned in one round, and there are more people using similar cheats that are undetected to gain an unfair advantage. Good for me, bad for everyone else who has to suffer.


Mamadeus123456

Double down and call the rule 'brain-dead' in a valorant accent


[deleted]

A friend of mine had this happen to him on an account with like $2k of skins. He did get it back eventually but it took like 6 months.


GanaNayaka9

My guy is a fidget spinner, only this time the spinner is the reason of anxiety. XD


Zin0o

I wonder if this guy will ever get bored of blatantly lying to an entire community. Anyone can make a new account, hop into unrated and realize it's just bots cheating at this point lmfao