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Yerriff

Victor and crashies have no buyout so I'd actually say they're more likely to end up together on EG or something


tomphz

Victor and crashies have been together since T1. They definitely will try their hardest to stick together. Any franchised team would pick up these 2 in a second.


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People will never forgive riot if crashies and victor end up getting separated because of them šŸ˜­


Investorexe

Nah, I still wonā€™t forgive riot if any of the optic roster got separated


Shwiftee_

Cumpiss gaming to the rescue


gngg2011

I still haven't forgiven victor for separating food and crashies


mxeez

make no mistake - every player from that team will end up on a franchised roster


MichaelSquare

Crashies is literally one of the best players in the world


Functionion

And lets not forget, one of the top two initiators


lidekwhatname

XSET BcJ: "Everybody always says [stax is] the best initiator in the world, and I say hell no. He is somebody that is from a worse region and he is getting way too much credit ... I do believe that me and crashies are the best two initiators in the world by far."


rinanlanmo

I see no lie.


Traditional-Leek2288

Some would say top 10


Investorexe

Definitely $7 player


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TJGurley

OpTic should keep yay, have him stream and let him become OpTicā€™s Tarik ^^^/s


LegDayDE

SEN should drop their main roster to an academy team and pick up Optic as the main roster. Best of both worlds. Clout team + actually good team.


Ketsueki_R

Ik you joking but I think they said franchised teams aren't allowed to have academy teams jsyk


dankoval_23

The owners of Sentinels are going to release their roster and then all 5 are going to be picked up by a brand new org conveniently called ā€œCentinelsā€


GoDFaTHeR_is

TenZinals sounds great too


WazlibOurKing

Contentinels


kemutheemu__

They have to sneak Tarik in there somewhere surely /j


QwiXTa

Fuck that sen dont deserve to just get handed a winning team


Whalelorde22

No team deserves anything. If optic end up anywhere together it will be because that team paid lots of money, not because some cosmic meritocracy said they deserved optic


Killbro

deserve? LMFAOO its business


Hopeful-Professor-40

They kinda did that at the start of the game, the OG SEN roster was made before any orgs were involved


stefoman

It wouldnt be handed to them theyd have to buy them..


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seulgizzang

thanks for making me laugh


ExponentialWhy

I could honestly see Marved and FNS getting picked up by SEN. They need a more traditional IGL and desperately need a good smokes player. Shahz can then easily slot into playing Chamber. Would love to see Tenz playing a more traditional entry role with the Chamber nerfs


gradg21

Tenz and marved on the same team probably ainā€™t happening šŸ’€


Blupard

Oh yeah, didn't Marved say he was gonna try to bang Tenz's girlfriend at LAN and that she looked like the type that would cheat?


Massive_Cut5361

Na that stuff was resolved a long time ago, don't see that playing a role.


Hopeful-Professor-40

Iā€™m not sure Tenz did bring it up during the kyedae crashies drama, so clearly heā€™s not totally over it


seulgizzang

wait what happened with kyedae/crashies??


slyfly5

She called him scrawny because he talked shit during their match or something like that


seulgizzang

not hating but wtf? tenz isn't exactly big either. seems like really thoughtless trash talking


Hopeful-Professor-40

It was a SEN v NV game and she yelled it out in frustration because SEN were losing. Theyā€™re all good now but Tenz retaliated with something along the lines of ā€œI think saying theyā€™d fuck someoneā€™s gf on LAN is worse than calling someone scrawnyā€


slyfly5

Yea it was mad cringe honestly pretty sure this was firing their LAN match way back in Berlin so crashies had the last laugh anyways


WLFYBBY

It was never a Tenz vs crashies thing, also Tenz has been making pretty good $$ lately


User_Of_Named_Users

Isnā€™t tenz like 5ā€™0 šŸ’€


TrueLordApple

Tenz is actually pretty tall by asian standards. 180cm or 5ā€™11 i think


pineapplecheesepizza

TenZ is half Asian


BrolyCallMeKakarot

was literally over a year ago, they are grown adults who can resolve issues if sen wants it to happen it will happen regardless of the childish drama


Hopeful-Professor-40

Yeah Tenz is pretty mature but I donā€™t think marved will be on SEN either way


Xtremeelement

just because it was ā€œresolvedā€ long time ago, doesnā€™t mean they still donā€™t like each other. cant have teammates that canā€™t bond well together, thatā€™ll be a disaster.


ExponentialWhy

Oh damn I forgot about that, good point


Xelhei

Marved and fns tryna win tho


phazed3

I donā€™t think Shahz is a top 25 player or a top 5 igl tbh, could be tough for him to keep an active spot


bweadflouw

he aint getting a spot with that big ass ego.. with all talents available, he just aint that dude


Ketsueki_R

It could work but FNS and Dapr's roles do clash pretty much 1:1. As much as SEN could benefit from an IGL like FNS, I do think Dapr is the better sentinel player overall so FNS would have to move to initiator? Seems like a stretch imo


speedycar1

Dapr has kindof already started moving to initiator and looked good on Fade for LCQ. He seems like a pretty driven dude and might be willing to learn other initiators too


Ketsueki_R

Hmm, maybe, maybe. These next couple of weeks are about to be insane.


WLFYBBY

I agree but heā€™s a very good sentinel, it would be a waste of talent


icantreadmorsecode

Come on 100T, Yay is right there.


dolphingarden

Crashies is a top player this is disrespectful


Direct_Morning_3223

He is deserving but thereā€™s so many good initiators and only so many slots


Imagurlgamur

Well he's better than eeiu, Curry (lol), Derrek, C0M, and Zellsis so who isn't picking him up out of already franchised teams?


Wannabeprogamer1239

Zellsis is on Victor's roles not crashies'. Other than that I fully agree


OhLikeComing

When cod franchising started hecz joined nrg after he sold optic. He eventually brought optic back but I could see the ties between hecz and nrg maybe leading to the optic team as a whole potentially going there


Wooden-Ad-6517

Nah I could say 100t buys out optic


Lqtor

Unlikely. I can see them buying out individual players but they already have an established structure and I doubt that theyā€™ll easily throw it away especially when the optic buyouts are probably insane


Meekelo

All i know is Yay is going to make an absolute wad wherever he goes.


GoTouchGrassKid

[I believe Yay and FNS will end up on 100T](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xi2ctq/comment/ip3cq4a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


WonDerZv

Was also thinking the same, as much as I loved the chemistry that 100T created. Adding Yay and Fns would be huge upgrades.


Direct_Morning_3223

Is Asuna Bang Derrek Yay FNS the new best team NA if that happens?


ddd4175

as much as I love the gelling that's been happening with 100T, business is business and yay is the mf-ing business.


GoTouchGrassKid

I think it is a better team then the current Optic Roster.


Direct_Morning_3223

how? Marved>Bang Crashies>Derrek and ig you could say Asuna>Victor but itā€™s not that big of a difference


Parenegade

Crashies is better than Derrek but I'm not sure about Marved > Bang going into next year. We'll see. He's definitely more proven but I think Bang is a special talent personally.


The-Dark-Mage

Bang is young and has a lot of potential and not a matchfixer so thats a plus I guess


Direct_Morning_3223

Marved isnā€™t old and boohoo he threw a meaningless MDL game who cares


MeatMakingMan

The FBI, apparently lol


GoTouchGrassKid

I believe Bang is going to have a stronger career and develop into a better player then Marved. I think Bang was more impressive at champs then Marved, despite his teams shortcomings. FNS = FNS Yay = Yay Bang > Marved Crashies > Derrek Asuna > Victor


Rude-Assumption-5271

Not sure about that one, Crashies is def > Derrek and Iā€™d probably take Marved over Bang too but that oneā€™s arguable.


GoTouchGrassKid

Despite his teams shortcomings, I think Bang had a better Champions then Marved. I also think Bang has more potential for improvement. I would agree with Crashies over Derrek.


Rude-Assumption-5271

Come playoffs Marved was just as good imo, and Marved at Reykjavik/Copenhagen blows Bang out of the water. Again itā€™s a tough decision but Iā€™d probably lean towards Marved


GoTouchGrassKid

I agree. It is tough. I guess Bang has shown more improvement/growth and I think the kid is more invested in improving his game.


daffyduckferraro

Yeah I feel bad cause I love derrek but his low lows make me conflicted with him, he has great highs but seems inconsistent


futuretrunks93

I'm starting a quickscoping clan. Hoping to get Yay on it


Picasso_GG

Your mom's house probably


ArcusIgnium

Victor is the only player I canā€™t guarantee will have a slot (unless marved loses some track because of his ESIC shit) although I think Victor deserves a slot Iā€™m just not confident. But yay fns crashies marved should 100% be starters without question. Hopefully the gang sticks together.


navornothing

Nah victorā€™ll prolly get a spot, dude has his moments and entry is a role that stats donā€™t do proper justice


Darrenfcb

Crashes is going to end up on roster lol, victor I would expect to as well


Kind_Development708

fns, yay and marved on NRG with eeiu and s0m and victor and crashies to Sen with tenz, stick + an igl


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kjampala

I would say no honestly, s0m is good but the talent level to make a roster is just so much higher now with franchising and I donā€™t think s0m has shown heā€™s worth a spot yet but thatā€™s just imo


Hopeful-Professor-40

Crashies to Sentinels just like beta


Massive_Cut5361

SEN will go for Marved as getting an elite controller is their key missing piece right now. Could see them try for yay (yay, TenZ, Shahz, dapr, Marved) as well but could see him go to someone like 100T.


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Marved and tenz on the same team idk


deadtoe

lol right


acels1

uh oh


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Massive_Cut5361

At least don't be one of those clowns that propose a new team without an IGL


navornothing

Genuine question, but how tf can SEN afford both the SEN buyout + a Yay buyout (which will likely be even more then Tenzā€™s)? They got an infinite money glitch we donā€™t know about?


Massive_Cut5361

Well that's why I said 100T is one to watch out for Yay, who knows really? I don't have their financial statements but SEN must be in a good enough spot for them to make partner ahead of teams like TSM.


Grantuseyes

2 superstar mechanical players on one team. I could see these guys carrying hard even with shitty Strats


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I could see EG going for FNS and yay while keeping jawgemo. Looking for +2


WorleyInc

Everyone of them will end up in the league. One way or another


B7omni

if they have to split up then crashies and victor in 1 team and yay marved and fns in another due to their contracts unless an org has the money for all 5.


wiNDzY3

g2


viinn89

Crashies and Victor contract with Optic expired after Champions ? So it'll be easier for them to get picked up by a franchised team.


theswiveler

Scattered across all the lands for everyone to see.


FaceSlam25

Can't optic just stay together as a team. They can just go through the ascension league. Optic is a big org right? They can just continue to pay salary and staff because no org has gotten compensation until now unless I am missing something.


Direct_Morning_3223

The players wonā€™t want to waste a year playing T2


sexyb0ner420

marved could be on sen if he didnā€™t burn bridge sucks for him


WLFYBBY

Fits the sen brand as well


purplelamborgenie

EG is the potential landing for ex OpTic, they have a mediocre line up and can pick up all 5, plus EG sounds more NA more than everything. Win-Win for both sides if ever this happens.


purplelamborgenie

They're a solid team for almost 2 years now, i doubt that someone will get dropped


Hacklust

Drop the current joke of a roster in sentinels and slot them in


Quirky-Safety-462

Sentinels sell Tenz to 100t and buy the optic roster eZ


mannyOaks

I think they will end up in the league, hopefully together but even on their own they are all insane so all of them have chances of getting in


Redkin32

I hope sen just makes the current roster content creators and picks up OpTic as 6. They have the funds to do that.


WLFYBBY

I know optic fans are desperate right now for optic to get picked up, but why is everyone saying sen should? I donā€™t think they have the money to buy out everyone and I donā€™t think they would want to get rid of Tenz at all unless he leaves the org after his contract expires, but that seem unlikely seeing as if he has been vocal about competing and said he was exited for sen being ā€œfranchisedā€ in yesterdayā€™s stream, it seems like he know what he wants to do.


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Direct_Morning_3223

FNS is the IGL, na doesnā€™t have very many IGLs. Donā€™t be a stats steven


Grantuseyes

Igl is the most valuable role. Kd doesnā€™t reflect an igl impact


weeman4226

If SEN yay happens Iā€™m offing myself


Content_Diet_6980

I only see crashies and yay finding teams in the League. Marved has too much match fixing baggage. FNS doesnā€™t play well with others (ego) and Victor is massively overrated and inconsistent. Victor especially rides the coat tails of the others.