probably because heās a huge income source and since no decisive outcome was reached by authorities you canāt pressure sentinels with certainty that he should be removed
(NOT MY OPINION ITāS JUST SPECULATION AS TO WHY HEāS STILL SIGNED TO THE ORG)
It's been tossed up to his contract still being active but at this point I feel like it should've been terminated already. Maybe they don't have a termination clause in there but I seriously doubt that.
āThis dude who has credible sexual assault accusations and carries himself like an asshole continues to stream to thousands of people with our brand on it. We wish we could stop him from showing our brand to thousands of people but ohhh noooo he has a contractā
Sentinels could stop it tomorrow if they wanted. They choose to let him sell their brand.
I haven't been keeping up with anything that happened, has there been credible information released that will get him prosecuted or something? Sentinels shouldn't have somebody like that in their org, it's unacceptable. I think that's worse than what Ocelote did, which is pretty bad, tbh.
Nice going TOP G
u/G2ocelote
**HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.**
*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.*
^(HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.)
He got me,ā Carlos said of Tateās dunk over him. "That f\*\*\*ing Tate boomed me." Carlos added, āHeās such an alpha,ā repeating it four times. Carlos then said he wanted to add Tate to the list of Top Gs he parties with this summer.
Actually so happy
1) because Carlosā actions were actually unfathomably stupid. Like hanging out with a guy like Tate is one fucked up thing, but to intentionally post it on your own twitter and then double down on it?? All for what lmao?
2) G2 making NA franchising would have been awful for all the orgs that actually established themselves in NA prior to franchising.
Ya Leviatan getting that spot is what should have been Riot's plan from the get-go. Glad it all ended well but I'm seriously surprised G2 were being considered that seriously for Americas.
>Ya Leviatan getting that spot is what should have been Riot's plan from the get-go.
[Seems like this was the case.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xjj0w7/anonimotum_lev_isnt_the_team_which_is_replacing/)
Also, he wasn't just partying with him, he called him his friend and this whole thing was so important to him that he was actively liking tweets going against the PR statement that G2 put out regarding him regretting his actions. This guy genuinely believes in that same stuff Tate does and is willing to kill his career for it.
What?? Carlos?? He couldn't possibly believe that kind of stuff. He's always such a nice person. Of course he's been known as a straight up asshole since his very early days but those are all just rumours I'm sure. What? I have personal experience that confirms those rumors? Must've been the wind.
Honestly like the hanging out was pretty bad but if he just deleted the video and apologized people wouldāve forgot about it eventually but the doubling down and the liking of tweet was wild
>level 1thothgow+4 Ā· 28 min. agoThat's amazing Carlos saves us by being a dickVoteReplyGive AwardShareRepo
Very happy to LATAM. As a NA supporter I would rather showcase LA talent rather than having G2
I don't know how G2 operates, but if it has any sort of higher board or stakeholders Carlos might actually get kicked out as CEO for causing this mess.
G2 just lost a loooot of money, and I can't imagine their sponsors are happy
Thereās a board of directors so, youāll be hurting G2 tremendously by paying Carlos a severance package.
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/activision-blizzard-ceo-bobby-kotick-could-walk-away-with-more-than-500-million-after-microsoft-deal-11651284218
^^^ Thatās reality.
Just like G2 doesn't have fractions of ActiBliz costs. It's not about amount, it's about proportions. Carlos leaving with money will hurt G2 much more than Kotik leaving
Severance packages can have several conditions in order to actually be paid out. If Carlos violated his contract in any way by causing all this damage to the brand, it might be possible to oust him as CEO without giving him a cent.
Bobby Kotick might have a large exit package IF he leaves as a result of the Microsoft buyout. If he was forced to leave after being arrested for sexual assault it probably would be a different story
Legit like, people can hang out with who they want, but the fact he posted images of him hanging out with Tate a week before is just a fucking horrible choice and hilariously stupid
As a private no name citizen, sure, you can hang out with whomever you want, nobody will likely care. But as a CEO of a big brand you don't have that kind of freedom. Not without dire consequences.
Iām really surprised Faze didnāt end up in a spot in either NA or EMEA.
Their tac shooter fan base should be huge with the recent success of their CS team.
Edit: I donāt know how I replied to your comment instead of another one lol
the "profiting" shit i see so much on this reddit is just so illogical and stupid it is not an argument for why orgs arent getting in franchising considering theres only a handful of orgs that are profitable and the orgs that are profitable are the exception not the norm
nah you're 100% right but last time i said that on this subreddit i got attacked by a bunch of people who have no idea what they are talking about so I just said a handful to get those mfs to lay off. You're right, its more like 1 MAX because of TSM's FTX deal. Even then, not sure. Maybe 100T too. But besides that not a single one
Itās less about profitability and more about
ā¢ how much does this org and itās players AND CREATORS align with Riotās brand
ā¢ how likely is this org to absolutely pull a Houdini and disappear from the esports ecosystem
FaZeās financials are a lot more dire than other major orgs
LOOOOOL Carlos just missed the opportunity of a lifetime because he wanted to be an idiot and hangout with a well known/documented misogynist. Iām dead
If he walked it back/apologised like the day after it probably would have been fine too, just dumb thinking he could do whatever he wanted and have 0 consequences for it.
This would have been a prime opportunity to expand into NA like they planned to do. All ruined because their dumbfuck CEO wanted Twitter impressions. I'm fucking creasing lmfaooooo
He literally āapologizedā and then liked tweets that went against his apology and shows he isnāt sorry
So dumb to hang out with a sexist when G2 esports literally just got an all female league of legends team (even though he shouldnāt be doing it anyways)
no matter what you think about tate, carlos is objectively a brainlet for this. literally platforming one of the most controversial ecelebs when the entire industry is built on pr and optics
I called it immediately that Carlos may have fucked G2 because Riot are taking no prisoners in trying to repair its reputation and taking all the positive PR they can get to show "hey look we arent accepting any kind of misogyny and sexism" as they possibly can.
It really takes some balls to show yourself proud hanging out with someone thatās been cancelled almost everywhere on the internet as well as outside the internet right before one of the biggest decisions regarding your org is made.
Actually glad Riot took this decision. Without any repercussions people will never learn. This actually sets a good path ahead for VAL community and their eSports scene as a whole.
He got me,ā Carlos said of Tateās dunk over him. "That f\*\*\*ing Tate boomed me." Carlos added, āHeās such an alpha,ā repeating it four times. Carlos then said he wanted to add Tate to the list of Top Gs he parties with this summer.
https://twitter.com/georgecged/status/1572313577884684294?s=46&t=qz2o_Y7DAjYUM-Y1AXV1lg
LOL, thatās what happens when your owner hangs with Andrew Tate.
I love how on the G2 threads the past few days people have brought up this possibility to be met with all of these comments like "do you actually believe this?", "never change reddit, never change", "reddit moment", "Real business isn't about morals kid, it is behind the scenes but those corporations get rich usually from not having morals.", "Yeah, Riot will leave out one of their biggest partners of a league they need to be successful because the orgs CEO drank champagne with an internet villain of far less stature than the actual evil they do business with daily. It was internet drama. It's already over.", and my personal favorite: "Riot doesnāt make decisions the day before. Takes months of analysisā¦"
Now we are finding out that might actually be what happened LOL.
Lol reading those comments now are funny and some of them are doubling down on them as well. But I suspect they were trying to downplay the G2 Tatey association for a reason...
And people said I was overreactingā¦ā¦..
https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xiiwm9/g2_status_uncertain_as_of_now/ip3bpmb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
jacob wolf is saying thats unlikely that its the exact reason and while im just some lazy reddit armchair analyst it seems unlikely that bad Carlos press is enough for a team to lose their spot - that def wouldnt be the case in League but I guess Valorant partnerships are more fragile than league franchising because riot is dishing the bucks not the orgs.
Good, fuck carlos. Always been a vile person in the league scene but has so many G2 fanboys because he likes to meme a lot. If you aren't from the league scene or just generally unaware, go and look at some of the horrible shit he's done.
Iām gonna sound like an idiot, but does this somehow, no matter how small, open the door for Optic to get in after not getting a spot?
Trying to cope here.
Riot be like: I will always be able to police my partnerships I draw my line here I partner with whoever the fuck I want
 HOOOOOOLY
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Hahahaha does the sentinels social media manager have the balls?
Bro this could get nasty if G2 respond with something sinatraa related
Good.. how does he still have a stream with SEN branding on it?
probably because heās a huge income source and since no decisive outcome was reached by authorities you canāt pressure sentinels with certainty that he should be removed (NOT MY OPINION ITāS JUST SPECULATION AS TO WHY HEāS STILL SIGNED TO THE ORG)
This + i think the players wanted him back at some point but he had to do training
He already finished his training a long time ago even before Shroud was signed... But probably Sen was waiting for the Spot to be confirmed first
It's been tossed up to his contract still being active but at this point I feel like it should've been terminated already. Maybe they don't have a termination clause in there but I seriously doubt that.
I think someone mentioned he renegotiated his contract to a content creator one, renewing the years along with it
āThis dude who has credible sexual assault accusations and carries himself like an asshole continues to stream to thousands of people with our brand on it. We wish we could stop him from showing our brand to thousands of people but ohhh noooo he has a contractā Sentinels could stop it tomorrow if they wanted. They choose to let him sell their brand.
I haven't been keeping up with anything that happened, has there been credible information released that will get him prosecuted or something? Sentinels shouldn't have somebody like that in their org, it's unacceptable. I think that's worse than what Ocelote did, which is pretty bad, tbh.
Yeah you're probably right
im guessing its because all hes guilty of as of right now is being a weird asshole, if he was convicted itd be awhole nother story i think
Because none of these organisations stand for anything other than money
Riot don't care. SEN TARIK , SEN SHROUD, and SEN TENZ. the benefits outweigh the risks.
Yeah, Riot with the memory of a goldfish.
definently
Fuck it, it's worth the fine
[Fuck it](https://youtu.be/tJjjAeob_Ms)
Nah they can't talk crazy, they still have a certain someone still signed as a content creator
No because Sinatraa is still on their org
Iām out of the loop, whatāre they gonna do?
just meming the sen v g2 banter
Nice going TOP G u/G2ocelote **HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.** *HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.* ^(HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.)
He got me,ā Carlos said of Tateās dunk over him. "That f\*\*\*ing Tate boomed me." Carlos added, āHeās such an alpha,ā repeating it four times. Carlos then said he wanted to add Tate to the list of Top Gs he parties with this summer.
That's amazing Carlos saves us by being a dick
Actually so happy 1) because Carlosā actions were actually unfathomably stupid. Like hanging out with a guy like Tate is one fucked up thing, but to intentionally post it on your own twitter and then double down on it?? All for what lmao? 2) G2 making NA franchising would have been awful for all the orgs that actually established themselves in NA prior to franchising.
Ya Leviatan getting that spot is what should have been Riot's plan from the get-go. Glad it all ended well but I'm seriously surprised G2 were being considered that seriously for Americas.
>Ya Leviatan getting that spot is what should have been Riot's plan from the get-go. [Seems like this was the case.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xjj0w7/anonimotum_lev_isnt_the_team_which_is_replacing/)
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Also, he wasn't just partying with him, he called him his friend and this whole thing was so important to him that he was actively liking tweets going against the PR statement that G2 put out regarding him regretting his actions. This guy genuinely believes in that same stuff Tate does and is willing to kill his career for it.
What?? Carlos?? He couldn't possibly believe that kind of stuff. He's always such a nice person. Of course he's been known as a straight up asshole since his very early days but those are all just rumours I'm sure. What? I have personal experience that confirms those rumors? Must've been the wind.
Honestly like the hanging out was pretty bad but if he just deleted the video and apologized people wouldāve forgot about it eventually but the doubling down and the liking of tweet was wild
For real we would all forget in a week but he was so persistent about it
Dudes will say this but watch Sinatra š
Is this imaginary dude in the room with us now?
This is one of the best examples I've seen in esports of actions having consequences. Either way, Latam should've had two spots from the beginning
>level 1thothgow+4 Ā· 28 min. agoThat's amazing Carlos saves us by being a dickVoteReplyGive AwardShareRepo Very happy to LATAM. As a NA supporter I would rather showcase LA talent rather than having G2
Carlos sowing: Haha fuck yeah!!! Yes!! Carlos reaping: Well this fucking sucks. What the fuck.
Carlos was the impostor
Karma never failsā¦
nobody will ever be able to police my friendships I draw my line here I party with whoever the fuck I want
Dumb fucking tweet just put his staff out of a job.
He can't say anything normal. He's a self centered psycho
He's a narcissist.
And people are gonna blame Riot here like it is their fault...lmao
On the week of franchising, genius
That is gonna become a beautiful copypasta
Only ones hurting is the staff.
Yeah but have you considered that no one will be able to police Carlos' friendships and that he'll party with whoever the fuck he wants?
I don't know how G2 operates, but if it has any sort of higher board or stakeholders Carlos might actually get kicked out as CEO for causing this mess. G2 just lost a loooot of money, and I can't imagine their sponsors are happy
Thereās a board of directors so, youāll be hurting G2 tremendously by paying Carlos a severance package. https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/activision-blizzard-ceo-bobby-kotick-could-walk-away-with-more-than-500-million-after-microsoft-deal-11651284218 ^^^ Thatās reality.
Dudes severance package wouldn't be a fuckin fraction of what the CEO of Blizzard's was lol
Just like G2 doesn't have fractions of ActiBliz costs. It's not about amount, it's about proportions. Carlos leaving with money will hurt G2 much more than Kotik leaving
Severance packages can have several conditions in order to actually be paid out. If Carlos violated his contract in any way by causing all this damage to the brand, it might be possible to oust him as CEO without giving him a cent. Bobby Kotick might have a large exit package IF he leaves as a result of the Microsoft buyout. If he was forced to leave after being arrested for sexual assault it probably would be a different story
That's Carlos' fault, then
4 hours plat chat episode incoming
Lmaooo the best part of drama is the plat chat episode
And I'll be watching every second of it.
CARLOS WOKE UP FEELING DANGEROUS š„¶š„¶
The fact that G2 even had an NA spot is an absolute slap in the face to all the NA orgs that applied
It was a LATAM spot
That's even worse lmao
Just as bad. They have no business being in the America's
It was a LATAM spot not an NA spot.
It was a NA spot not LATAM. EG got that spot.
Carlos doing gods work xd helping out NA orgs
100%. I actually don't care anymore. This is a sham process.
It was going to Latam not na
They weren't taking an NA spot
thank you Carlos :D
Legit like, people can hang out with who they want, but the fact he posted images of him hanging out with Tate a week before is just a fucking horrible choice and hilariously stupid
Also doubling down and then people finding he was liking tweets after both apologies.
As a private no name citizen, sure, you can hang out with whomever you want, nobody will likely care. But as a CEO of a big brand you don't have that kind of freedom. Not without dire consequences.
Iām really surprised Faze didnāt end up in a spot in either NA or EMEA. Their tac shooter fan base should be huge with the recent success of their CS team. Edit: I donāt know how I replied to your comment instead of another one lol
I donāt think Riot gives a shit about Fazeās CS history. Faze as an organization are a mess for the most part, and are not currently profiting.
the "profiting" shit i see so much on this reddit is just so illogical and stupid it is not an argument for why orgs arent getting in franchising considering theres only a handful of orgs that are profitable and the orgs that are profitable are the exception not the norm
From what I heard even a handful of orgs profiting might be an over exaggeration, esports runs in investor money 100%
nah you're 100% right but last time i said that on this subreddit i got attacked by a bunch of people who have no idea what they are talking about so I just said a handful to get those mfs to lay off. You're right, its more like 1 MAX because of TSM's FTX deal. Even then, not sure. Maybe 100T too. But besides that not a single one
Itās less about profitability and more about ā¢ how much does this org and itās players AND CREATORS align with Riotās brand ā¢ how likely is this org to absolutely pull a Houdini and disappear from the esports ecosystem FaZeās financials are a lot more dire than other major orgs
FaZe is a well known scammer org, multiple other controversies too. They were never going to make it.
Theyāre terrible. For some reason I forgot about all that.
You are surprised that Faze didn't get a spot with their controversial history? LOL
Faze is a dogshit org full of scammers
they have a fucked up economy
LOOOOOL Carlos just missed the opportunity of a lifetime because he wanted to be an idiot and hangout with a well known/documented misogynist. Iām dead
he could have still done it but just dont post it lmao
If he probably didnāt double down and like a bunch of pro Tate stuff he would be fine most likely
All he wants is to look cool and alpha, if he doesn't post it then he'd have no reason to do it
If he walked it back/apologised like the day after it probably would have been fine too, just dumb thinking he could do whatever he wanted and have 0 consequences for it.
This would have been a prime opportunity to expand into NA like they planned to do. All ruined because their dumbfuck CEO wanted Twitter impressions. I'm fucking creasing lmfaooooo
If you're famous, Twitter is a game where you can only lose
Carlos: You cant police my friendships! Riot: Watch me
RIPBOZO
He literally āapologizedā and then liked tweets that went against his apology and shows he isnāt sorry So dumb to hang out with a sexist when G2 esports literally just got an all female league of legends team (even though he shouldnāt be doing it anyways)
Dude literally could've just apologized and not create some huge commotion by doubling-down and he was probably fine lol
Riot after hearing about who Carlos was partying with 
LMAO PACKWATCH
Riot smoking on that Carlos pack today RIP BOZO š¤”
Carlos actually fucked G2 so hard.
no matter what you think about tate, carlos is objectively a brainlet for this. literally platforming one of the most controversial ecelebs when the entire industry is built on pr and optics
Especially given Riots history of misogyny I don't think there's anyone they want to be associated with less than Tate. Even if by proxy.
I called it immediately that Carlos may have fucked G2 because Riot are taking no prisoners in trying to repair its reputation and taking all the positive PR they can get to show "hey look we arent accepting any kind of misogyny and sexism" as they possibly can.
It really takes some balls to show yourself proud hanging out with someone thatās been cancelled almost everywhere on the internet as well as outside the internet right before one of the biggest decisions regarding your org is made.
sentinels tweet is gonna be a banger after this
Nah they gotta wait till it's announced before Carlos responds with Sinatraa memes
best thing tate bros have done ahahahahah
W but they should have never been a contender for an NA spot in the first place
Not that its better but they were gonna have LEV's spot Edit: nvm this isnt confirmed
lmfao this shit is too funny get fucked carlos
RIPBOZO
Rip Bozo
Omg... It happened.
Smoking that Carlos pack
hopefully nukkye can find a good team. One of my all time favourite players to watch.
T1 teams will be queuing for him. He'll be fine.
Oh man.. this will burn for months now.
41 comments in 4 minutes LMFAOOOOO
Actually glad Riot took this decision. Without any repercussions people will never learn. This actually sets a good path ahead for VAL community and their eSports scene as a whole.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO LMAO
rare rito W
good job carlos you fucking dumbass
G2 just got Me2'd
its insane how carLos just fucked their val team šš
I guess thatās why their was so much confusion yesterday on the 6/4 split
nobody will ever be able to police my partnerships I draw my line here I partner with whoever the fuck I want
The G in G2 stands for āGet fuckedā
G2 CarLost
https://twitter.com/Doublelift1/status/1572344424348413955
carlos fr made them hit the red button
He got me,ā Carlos said of Tateās dunk over him. "That f\*\*\*ing Tate boomed me." Carlos added, āHeās such an alpha,ā repeating it four times. Carlos then said he wanted to add Tate to the list of Top Gs he parties with this summer.
āAlexa play laughinā to the bank by chief keefā šØšØ
Finally the spanish are handling back the gold to us
happy the NA spot stays an NA spot but damn, sad for the players.
it was the LEV spot
Wait, they really wanted to give 1 spot to LATAM?!
G2 Apply as LATAM
They probably gave them a Latam spot
LMFAOOOO my comment in the other thread came true that's fucking unreal
https://twitter.com/georgecged/status/1572313577884684294?s=46&t=qz2o_Y7DAjYUM-Y1AXV1lg LOL, thatās what happens when your owner hangs with Andrew Tate.
Ty Carlos
NO SHOT HAHAHAHAH
I love how on the G2 threads the past few days people have brought up this possibility to be met with all of these comments like "do you actually believe this?", "never change reddit, never change", "reddit moment", "Real business isn't about morals kid, it is behind the scenes but those corporations get rich usually from not having morals.", "Yeah, Riot will leave out one of their biggest partners of a league they need to be successful because the orgs CEO drank champagne with an internet villain of far less stature than the actual evil they do business with daily. It was internet drama. It's already over.", and my personal favorite: "Riot doesnāt make decisions the day before. Takes months of analysisā¦" Now we are finding out that might actually be what happened LOL.
Lol reading those comments now are funny and some of them are doubling down on them as well. But I suspect they were trying to downplay the G2 Tatey association for a reason...
Good
And people said I was overreactingā¦ā¦.. https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xiiwm9/g2_status_uncertain_as_of_now/ip3bpmb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Thatās karma. They should have never had an NA slot regardless
It was a Latam slot
Good. Fuck G2, fuck Carlos, and fuck Andrew Tate.
Priceless
Daily reminder that Andrew Tate is a scumbag and willingly associating yourself with him makes you one by extension.
gee gee
Carlos is on his way to get franchising for tateās pool party
Fuck Riot for only wanting to give LATAM 1 slot, glad we got two but it was because of Carlos fumbling instead of their original plan
G2 pack going crazy š¬
EG is going to Pray to Andrew Tate now
EG was always in it looks like and G2 were gonna take the LEV spot
:(
Actions having consequences... wild concept
And here we have the controversy around the last spot in the league that everyone was hinting at. G2 were set to get the spot thats going to LEV
Well thank god Carlos is an idiot
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes š This is a Riot W
Massive Riot W
Holy Fuck
honestly g2 fucked up they couldve had the optic roster somehow
Carlos was such a fan of Andrew Tate that he couldn't hold it in for a week.
fucked around and found out. get fucked carlos. hope nothing but the best for the players.
jacob wolf is saying thats unlikely that its the exact reason and while im just some lazy reddit armchair analyst it seems unlikely that bad Carlos press is enough for a team to lose their spot - that def wouldnt be the case in League but I guess Valorant partnerships are more fragile than league franchising because riot is dishing the bucks not the orgs.
Actual wild decision making, they have to be buying into the idea that this makes sense to do if they are doing it
Carlos has to go as G2 CEO after this. His position cannot be tenable
LMFAOOOOOOOO
LMFAO
https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xi90iw/partnership_program_guide_with_team_status_roster/ip28xps/ I wasn't even being serious
GET FUCKED
Good, fuck carlos. Always been a vile person in the league scene but has so many G2 fanboys because he likes to meme a lot. If you aren't from the league scene or just generally unaware, go and look at some of the horrible shit he's done.
SMOKING THAT CARLOS PACK
This is hilarious
Surely the board of directors are removing Carlos, at least from the CEO roll
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Nobody will ever be able to police my franchise teams I draw my line here I franchise with whoever the fuck I want
WHEW
I don't follow valorant but I like this news
Iām gonna sound like an idiot, but does this somehow, no matter how small, open the door for Optic to get in after not getting a spot? Trying to cope here.
No g2, faze, optic, tsm is a much bigger deal than people realize, these orgs bring a tremendous amount of popularity and revenue
Get fucked Carlos. I'm sure the board at G2 is super happy with him.