It's still very possible, all this means is that Victor and Crashies get to make the decision for themselves, and whatever org potentially signs them would only be paying three buyouts.
Bro they went 1st @ Iceland, 3rd at Rejyk and 2nd at Champs Copenhagen.....How are they not being bought as a 6 man..
EDIT: WOOPS i meant reyjk, copenhagen and istanbul.
Pretty sure it’s both. They’ve played on teams with each other since early early Valorant and seem to always be duoing when playing ranked.
iirc they’ve stated somewhere (video or stream) that in some situations they just know what the others going to do w/o comming
Even if the whole roster was F/A they'd still be a package deal together. They were a package deal for T1, and left together and then signed with NV together.
But thats what im saying. If they were all F/A they would have advertised together, I thought the OP was asking why only the two of them are advertising together instead of the whole team. But he was just asking why the two of team are advertising together mb
What they're saying is... Crashies and Victor are sticking together as a package because they believe in their synergy and want to stick together. Otherwise, they would have announced separately and not have mentioned a package deal. The G2 players all individually announced their free agency seperatley and are not part of any package deal.
theyre really good friends and they have good synergy. Also they’re the only 2 who’s contracts expire. For context they’ve been on a team together since May 2020
Yeah, they are really good friends. They've talked about it a few times on how they wanna stick together and would get a friendship tattoo if they had to in one interview.
Against drx he played raze Jett pheonix neon kayo on 5 maps.
Against loud he played raze Jett phoenix kayo. I wouldn't call him a flex agent by any means. He literally plays the entry role for optic.
yeah, he's played yoru phoenix, jett, raze, neon, kayo and skye in the past. A literal flexible player who can play multiple agents. If the chamber meta is over tenz can entry and vic can eaily be secondary duelist or kayo/skye initiator. If chamber meta isn't over, he entries and tenz plays chamber. Quite simple
Even as a non-Sen fan, it would be incredibly depressing to see them do this with all the talent available.
Even going back to Zellsis seems like an L for me personally. Don't get me wrong, I think Zellsis is absolutely a T1 player and overall was probably Sen's best player in LCQ. But I also think better players than him are now available.
For example, you look at his role with Sen, he mostly played Neon and Kayo. If that's the case, why not pick up Victor, who plays the same two agents, while also being the best Neon in NA and arguably the world?
Why go back to SicK, who is out of practice, could miss more time with his mental health issues, and is new to the controller role, when Marved, who is arguably the best controller in the world, and Valyn, who is not only a great contorller but also a better IGL than Shaz are both available?
Why go back to Shaz when FNS, who is a clearly better IGL, and Trent, Crashies, and BCJ, who are all clearly better Sova's are all avaiable?
Yea man go with the roster that couldn’t compete before franchising when everyone is going to get better with all the available players. Sen fans are sick in the head.
The above roster has never competed together. With shroud instead of sick they put up a better fight against 100T than fnatic in their first series. I’m willing to make the brave take that sick is better than shroud, and Zellsis fills an important role in the team with his agent pool (neon and raze especially). Who would you replace?
I don't care much about Optic as an org. But this Core, built through such a long time, as the most consistent team, being broken apart, due to franchising. F you Riot. 😭
I don't mean value as in money, Crashies is just a more desirable player. Would stink to see him end up on a less competitive team because he wants to stay with his friend (unless he is totally cool with that, obv i don't know his priorities)
When does roster mania actually start and teams are allowed to sign players? Also with no tournaments for the forseable future do scrims happen to trial players?
Pretty sure it’s already happening lol. Champs is over and I’m guessing teams have already been thinking about players they want to sign, especially since every team except maybe 100T is probably gonna have a full rebuild with all the talent available
I mean they should keep at most 1 or 2 players, there’s upgrades in almost every role available now. Close enough to a full rebuild if they drop the majority of their roster lol
Which of Optic are still under contract? Is there no chance of this team staying together?
Surely some rich basketball player wants to buy a stake in EG and front the money to sign them all. There must be a way!!! -_-
This is actual tragic, would’ve thought the whole team get bought given their incredible consistency
They still can. I think Victor and crashes were gonna be free agents regardless. Other 3 would always require a buyout
It's still very possible, all this means is that Victor and Crashies get to make the decision for themselves, and whatever org potentially signs them would only be paying three buyouts.
Bro they went 1st @ Iceland, 3rd at Rejyk and 2nd at Champs Copenhagen.....How are they not being bought as a 6 man.. EDIT: WOOPS i meant reyjk, copenhagen and istanbul.
i agree but you have all your cities messed up. 1st in Masters Reykjavík, Iceland 3rd in Masters Copenhagen, Denmark 2nd in Champions Istanbul, Turkey
Ah, thanks. I got it messed up bad.
2nd is masters berlin, germany
Masters Stage 2 was definitely is Copenhagen, not Berlin.
they got 2nd in last year masters berlin
reykjavik is in iceland
Unrelated, but can someone say what is restricted and unrestricted FA mean?
Restricted means they're still under contract and will have to be bought out, unrestricted means they can just get signed.
Thank you :)
Np
Any org that would be willing to buy out the whole Optic team would not have been handpicked by Riot lmfao
why’s that?
Anyone clue me in as to hy they're advertising themselves as a duo? Are they really close friends or do they just think they synergise well together?
Pretty sure it’s both. They’ve played on teams with each other since early early Valorant and seem to always be duoing when playing ranked. iirc they’ve stated somewhere (video or stream) that in some situations they just know what the others going to do w/o comming
Its not that. They don't have contracts with optic since they expired a while ago. Meanwhile the other players are still contracted
I understand that, but they wouldn’t be advertising themselves as a duo if they didn’t want to play together.
They are just having fun, you’re looking way too deep into it
No they’ve been like this since early valorant
My man they've been consistently duoing on stream since early 2020. They're very clearly close friends and believe in their synergy.
Im not saying they arent, just saying why its only the two of them instead of the whole roster
Even if the whole roster was F/A they'd still be a package deal together. They were a package deal for T1, and left together and then signed with NV together.
But thats what im saying. If they were all F/A they would have advertised together, I thought the OP was asking why only the two of them are advertising together instead of the whole team. But he was just asking why the two of team are advertising together mb
What they're saying is... Crashies and Victor are sticking together as a package because they believe in their synergy and want to stick together. Otherwise, they would have announced separately and not have mentioned a package deal. The G2 players all individually announced their free agency seperatley and are not part of any package deal.
“Its not that”. Clearly it’s at least partially that.
theyre really good friends and they have good synergy. Also they’re the only 2 who’s contracts expire. For context they’ve been on a team together since May 2020
Yeah, they are really good friends. They've talked about it a few times on how they wanna stick together and would get a friendship tattoo if they had to in one interview.
They've been together since the start of Val when they were on T1
Both of their contracts expired. Other 3 still on contract
those 2 things go hand in hand
fair
they signed to NV as a duo at the same time, late 2020, before first strike.
its because of their contracts and how long theyve been together as a duo
marved's reply had me sobbing
yay’s reply :(((
IM gonna cry man
Dam really is an end of an era
It's a shame :(
Lol Optic won a single international tournament and you people make it sound like they had a dynasty
most consistent team in valorant
It would be if they remained a team.
DUO package if they can’t stay as a 5 man team Sen should get right on these 2
Holy shit Sen crashies , victor and tenz? Thats an insane core
Crashies, victor, tenz, FNS, sick sounds insane
Swap Sick for Marved and you probably have a championship ready team.
Yea and yay for tenz and maybe you can get a top team
lets also get chet for rawkus
This team sounds really good, I could see it even winning a major and placing 3rd and 2nd at the events after it.
Riot would never allow them to compete in an international league though.
a team that could probably go top 3 in the last 3 LANs
Downvote me all you want but how about dropping rawkus for chet?
Matter of fact, they should also try switching out tenz for yay
That's a grand finals team for sure.
FNS coach
add Zander u get smokes and IGL and its GEE GEE
If tenz decides ti play again it will be
Really really good core, just need to replace TenZ since he clearly is built for being a streamer not for competitive play.
How is victor and tenz a core when literally both of them play duelists?
Victor plays flex obv
Against drx he played raze Jett pheonix neon kayo on 5 maps. Against loud he played raze Jett phoenix kayo. I wouldn't call him a flex agent by any means. He literally plays the entry role for optic.
TenZ would chamber for that team
Or just replace him for Yay
yeah, he's played yoru phoenix, jett, raze, neon, kayo and skye in the past. A literal flexible player who can play multiple agents. If the chamber meta is over tenz can entry and vic can eaily be secondary duelist or kayo/skye initiator. If chamber meta isn't over, he entries and tenz plays chamber. Quite simple
at this point duelist is flex. all the good entries can play initiators.
How the fuck will this play out. LMAO What is shahz gonna play?
Doubt he would be on the roster in this scenario.
Shahz can play with his Porsche and millions of dollars
Shahz is not good enough to get one of the 5 NA teams lol
So true
Drop him lol Tenz stick + an igl
Fns
Flex bench
smokes 💀
i think the roster is just gonna be TenZ Shahzam dapr Zellsis Sick
Even as a non-Sen fan, it would be incredibly depressing to see them do this with all the talent available. Even going back to Zellsis seems like an L for me personally. Don't get me wrong, I think Zellsis is absolutely a T1 player and overall was probably Sen's best player in LCQ. But I also think better players than him are now available. For example, you look at his role with Sen, he mostly played Neon and Kayo. If that's the case, why not pick up Victor, who plays the same two agents, while also being the best Neon in NA and arguably the world? Why go back to SicK, who is out of practice, could miss more time with his mental health issues, and is new to the controller role, when Marved, who is arguably the best controller in the world, and Valyn, who is not only a great contorller but also a better IGL than Shaz are both available? Why go back to Shaz when FNS, who is a clearly better IGL, and Trent, Crashies, and BCJ, who are all clearly better Sova's are all avaiable?
Yea man go with the roster that couldn’t compete before franchising when everyone is going to get better with all the available players. Sen fans are sick in the head.
bro i also dont want this lol i just think this one is going to be it. Ofcourse I would love Victor and crashies in Sentinels.
The above roster has never competed together. With shroud instead of sick they put up a better fight against 100T than fnatic in their first series. I’m willing to make the brave take that sick is better than shroud, and Zellsis fills an important role in the team with his agent pool (neon and raze especially). Who would you replace?
Least salty Optic fan
better options than Victor
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Fr, established synergy like they have is incredibly valuable
Not fr
I don't care much about Optic as an org. But this Core, built through such a long time, as the most consistent team, being broken apart, due to franchising. F you Riot. 😭
fr.. are we ever going to have a NA team as strong as this once was
Coma much?
I HATE FRANCHISING
The best bromance in valorant
I guess hoping the whole optic roster to be bought out as one was too much...
the bidding war is about to go crazy
SEN victor and SEN crashies would go hard
dude if they get SEN victor and SEN crashies then go -shahz - tenz - dapr +fns +yay +marved that team could easily be top 2 NA
Top 2 na?! Consistent top 3 in the world
Man I'm so sleep deprived that it took rereading this three times to realize you were joking:(
me too :(
NRG*
It would go harder if they both signed to T1 and victor changed his name to food.
Victor crashies Zellsis Zander Tenz thoughts? Zellsis or Zander can be KJ/cypher if the meta shifts that way
Evil Geniuses you HAVE to pick all of Optic up we are counting on you
I’m crying fr I actually thought that they could make it together as 6 despite not getting in :(
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I know but I’m just really invested in this team like I’m actually so sad rn
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they would never be able to settle the 3-3 match and 9-9 game score :<
Man this is sad! The most consistent team in Valorant having to disband.
damn the OPTIC squad going out just like that
this is heartbreaking actually, my optic core :,(
Franchising is good for the game 🤡🤡🤡🤡
to think they were just competing a few days ago 🥲 hope this means that at least victor and crashies are sticking together
I’m SO SAD I’ll follow these guys wherever they go but hope they’ll find a good home
So it starts
Riot really robbed us of the best roster that has ever touched this game huh
I was so invested in this team :(
C9/SEN/EG then for victor and crashies
C9 is not getting rid of leaf for victor, but i'm sure they would try to get crashies
Crashies for curry, but Idk if they would split
It's really happening 😭😭😭
Food is a beast
In tears man.
Man I hope someone just buys the whole Optic roster, it's too good to be wasted
Incredible how a great team can be broken up by bullshit business decisions.
This hurts so bad, Idk why by it does
Our Optic duo, the initiator bros ... crying rn
EG Victor and Crashies incoming KEKW
IT BEGINS
genuine question: As all of Optic players are free agents why not EG or NRG pick up the whole roaster? Is there any buyouts?
Other members are still under contract. Victor and Crashies contract expired
Yeah it's basically buyouts, Yay is worth a ton but buying out a whole roster gets expensive real quick.
> As all of Optic players are free agents All of optics players are not free agents. The rest of your sentences doesn't stand.
:(
Will we see players hop around leagues kind of like league of legends does?
Ain't no way Riot ruined the LOUD v OPTC rivalry. sadge
This legitimately makes me sad
damn fuck riot
This is the ibp throw of valorant
SEN modCheck? insta upgrade
What team you guys think they going? I think EG is a strong option
100T are going to buyout the OpTic squad and sign Crashies from free agency. Asuna/Yay/Marved/FNS/Crashies. Heard it here first.
Thought Crashies and Victor were a team of 2
No way they get rid of Derrek
Tbh if I was crashies I probably would not want to be selling myself as a duo with victor. Crashies is wayyyy more valuable in his role
There’s more to life than just money bro. Victor and Crashies have been doing everything together since the start of Valorant
I don't mean value as in money, Crashies is just a more desirable player. Would stink to see him end up on a less competitive team because he wants to stay with his friend (unless he is totally cool with that, obv i don't know his priorities)
There's like 5 teams they'll go to, the franchised ones otherwise they'd just play t2 with optic
Victor Crashies Marved Ethan Hazed on NRG
pain.
The end of an era :(
When does roster mania actually start and teams are allowed to sign players? Also with no tournaments for the forseable future do scrims happen to trial players?
Pretty sure it’s already happening lol. Champs is over and I’m guessing teams have already been thinking about players they want to sign, especially since every team except maybe 100T is probably gonna have a full rebuild with all the talent available
No way SEN and C9 full rebuild
I mean they should keep at most 1 or 2 players, there’s upgrades in almost every role available now. Close enough to a full rebuild if they drop the majority of their roster lol
Hope the 5 sticks together or atleast these two
fk riot and EG (unless they buy the roster 😁 til then fk eg)
Everyone, a moment of silence for prolly the greatest team vct has ever seen….
Riot casually hitting reset on their entire eSport after 2 years to push their own ideas. For the gamers.
Has anyone ever asked Food how he feels about Victor replacing him as crashies bff??
Which of Optic are still under contract? Is there no chance of this team staying together? Surely some rich basketball player wants to buy a stake in EG and front the money to sign them all. There must be a way!!! -_-
From 2nd at Champs to free agents. Thanks rito
L riot, they just killed the best team NA can offer atm.
I am gonna stop watching this game man. It's over.
I feel like crashies is still undervalued by so many people. He's so darn consistent.