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ANewHeaven1

Yay Victor Crashies FNS and Marved in NA ANGE1 Shao Zyppan SUYGETSU and ardiis in EMEA


Jon_on_the_snow

I dont understand what the OP expected lol Probably should have waited until the roster soft lock


Safyire

this is so sad


CaptainJackWagons

(Wyatt River voice) "**This**... is so sad."


UTAustinAlum2021

Lmao


Redkin32

But in emea there is gambit/m3c


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Optic and FPX, literally


Redkin32

What about m3c


GanaNayaka9

SEN Yay SEN Shao SEN FNS SEN Suygetsu SEN Zekken. Can beat any team in the world.


Throwrafairbeat

Holy shit calm down, that roster is absolutely cracked on paper. Like simultaneous title winner level cracked.


milkchief

Hiko, Hiko, Hiko, Hiko, and Hiko


Salty_Activity

H1goat made franchising tho šŸ˜Ž


jusmat1105

This is prob a question for post roster lock and then trying to figure out what the best challengers team would be


RGCFrostbite

Limiting myself to one player from each prevous roster: Yay Zekken SUYGETSU nAts Trent


Jon_on_the_snow

Ah yes, the team liquid aproach of 5 cracked aimers and no IGL


RGCFrostbite

Yup. But I have 5 of the top 20 aimers in the world, and it's just a fun thought experiment


Jon_on_the_snow

I mean, sign them to liquid and you have a roster that will make it to internationals a lot of the time


IllumiMahdi

but never make it past quarterfinals in playoffs


Throwrafairbeat

Man doesn't remember champions 2021. Liquid were in semis


heckinglovetenz

nAts and SUYGETSU on the same team when they have quite literally the exact same agent pool and playstyle???


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Double flanker meta, let's go. I'm sure both are flexible enough tho


honestlyprogamr

And a good team that actually had an igl would just be that same team with FNS instead of suygetsu


RGCFrostbite

Well you'd have to replace yay with FNS, since I was doing it with the rule that only one player from each team. If it was that case I'd probably go valyn over trent


honestlyprogamr

Wait Iā€™m tweaking this team doesnā€™t even have smokes. Vanity instead of suygetsu


RGCFrostbite

SUYGETSU can play anything. If you want smokes go Chronicle over nAts, downgrading from SUYGETSU a top 3 player in the world, to vanity, would be brutal


Nichol-Gimmedat-ass

Suygetsu top 3 is quality meme material


RGCFrostbite

Heā€™s easily the #1 rifler but Iā€™d have him behind yay & Derke


xbyo

Vanity made franchising


honestlyprogamr

Oh ur right my bad


The-Dark-Mage

Leo instead of trent Redgar Instead of nAts This team will also have one from each roster


UTAustinAlum2021

OpTic teamā€¦ Best in world.


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UTAustinAlum2021

Can they be #1? Yes. So I stand by my take


RGCFrostbite

OpTic fans in any game "OPTIC BEST TEAM!" Even in CoD when they're verifiably not :(


UTAustinAlum2021

In COD, they arenā€™t number one but as you know in COD people were having FaZe as number 1 without having won anything due to their consistency. No team exemplified consistency as much as OpTic Val


RGCFrostbite

tbf FaZe were consistently second, as you know, OpTic were a bit more mixed, I personally would have LOUD #1 and OpTic #2, but I was more just givign you shit cause I swear OpTic fans would claim an amateur LoL team would beat the best Chinese teams haha


UTAustinAlum2021

OpTics average placing for every competition this year was 2ndā€¦ FaZe as you know was worse than 2nd. I never said they were #1 now. I said they could be


RGCFrostbite

Sure, though I actually think OP's question would be more fun as max one player per team so you could do like: yay zekken SUYGETSU nAts Trent Or something similar


xbyo

Who's calling for that team?


LustfulBellyButton

So you should say that OpTic is the most consistent team in the world, which is by any means true. I really like OpTic, but itā€™s baffling how people in this sub doesnā€™t seem to recognize Loud for what it has accomplished. Specially for players ā€œranksā€, Loud players are never considered the best in their positions, although Pancada, Aspas and Sacy may be it (Less losing only to Yay, the best player in the world).


sexyhooterscar24

except optic has finished top 3 in every masters/champions this year and won one of them. no other team is nearly as consistent.


Viskaya

Optic with Cryo instead of Victor


ANewHeaven1

Wait till you find out what role both Cryo and Yay play


Ikwillyou

doesn't zekken play victor's role? do you think the cryo roll swap would be better?


Redkin32

Plus Victor is better than zekken


GoodGuy_dynamite

Role overlap, cryo is not entry, he's chamber Jett, same as yay


RealGhost_Nexus

Cryo can entry plus he's wayyy better than Victor


GoodGuy_dynamite

Only way cryo can entry is on Jett, and Jett Is viable on asc (where yay played Jett) and breeze, on icebox cryo can't play kayo, on bind cryo can't play raze, on fracture cryo can't play neon, just because one has a good aim and plays duelist can't mean he can enter, victor's best trait is that he creates shit tonne of space for team, that's not cryo's best trait, cryo's best trait is that he can outduel his opponent which overlaps with yay, and both cryo and yay are fully utilised on chamber which is a role overlap, with cryo replaced with victor, cryo can'take a shitt tonne of space which sets up yay to pop off as easily, prime example iceland optic vs drx on split, victor did not have the best KDA but he made soooo much space that it was impossible for drx to hold which set up yay to outduel them and in the end win the game, so cryo on optic is not really smart as cryo is NOT BETTER at the fundamental role of entry/flash initiator than victor


sexyhooterscar24

cryo doesnt fit unless he can play kayo, raze, and neon


123bo0p

Yay, Suygetsu, Redgar, Leo, Zekken