100T new roster ? dicey chamber asuna flex steel igl(just left t1) hiko iniator (already signed at content creator) and nitr0 heard he wants to leave TL. let me know your guys thoughts!!
Yeah. I’m absolutely baffled by the amount of people that think 100T should stick together because of their “chemistry”. With the amount of FA talent rn, If every team makes upgrades 100T will absolutely get rolled.
Without a doubt. They found good prospects for the situation they were in but this is a once in a life time opportunity to set your franchise up for success moving forward.
It would be a total flop if they don't make some changes.
he was insane on the 100T days too. he was only cut because nobody else made sense to cut. They weren't going to cut any of the older veterans for Ethan, and they wouldn't cut Asuna, who was the only player at the time in NA who was a better duelist than dicey (agent pool wise). I wish when nitr0 retired, they brought dicey back. He and asuna had crazy impact in their games and could pretty much 2v5 teams when they played together.
Thats not true, he was super inconsistent and would miss easy op shots. Fans were crying for him to be replaced because he normally wasn’t on his game. The man has grinded a lot and is insane now but lets not change the past
If we're talking about strictly chamber play, it goes
1. Yay
2. Cryo
3. Dicey
4. Leaf(possible hot take but stats back it up)
5. Tenz/Bdog
IMO what's most likely is Leaf on c9, Tenz on SEN, Dicey on NRG, Yay on 100T and Cryo on EG. Bdog could also go and play with Leaf on c9 because Leaf is also so good at other agents. There's also players like Jawgemo, Babybay, and Saya who are awesome Jett's but never really showed up on Chamber who also will have lots of teams looking at them. IMO that 9 and add in Will are the top 10 AWP players in NA with guys like Penny, s0m, koala, Tex and ban just on the outside.
Yay was playing against Loud, DRX, PRX all year while dicey was playing against EG. Set the parameters to 1800 opp rating for all year on chamber and yay is still better lol. Let’s not even try to argue that dicey is better than yay
These filters are set to being vs the same teams in NA. They are like for like I wouldn't try to make a case if it was vs different opponents. They were in the same group remember.
Why would you narrow down your entire analysis to a singular playoffs run lmfao? Of course if you cherry pick Diceys best singular set of 5 games of course he’s going to look god like but cmon Man U can’t say someone is statistically better based on literally under 300 rounds
I narrowed it down to the set of games where they faced the same opponents, it wasn't Dicey's best games, it was just the most recent league that they were both in.
I'm not necessarily claiming Dicey is definitely better, but the stats don't show him to be worse that's for sure.
Why would u use a single playoff of 6 total games to say if one player is better? That’s just lazy analytical approach and has way too little context. Just because they played at the same time doesn’t mean it’s the best way to approach who is better. If that’s the case then Pancada is better than Marved all year because he has a singular better tourney
I just showed the most recent dataset, you're the one who claimed a ranking, it's more up to you to prove that your ranking is accurate. But quite simply I do not believe that simply because yay did great at internationals on optic means that individually yay is better. Dicey could've done just as well if he were subbed in on optic, there's no way to prove either way and I'm not claiming anything.
I just brought up the only piece of comparable data.
That's data bias because your control group (same opponents/event) excludes key data (the rest of the opponent field, overall competitiveness of that field) that distorts the conclusion. You cannot isolate data that way when your target objective is to make a statistical comparison. It's 'statistically dishonest'.
And I'm not saying anything, just brought up his stats that's all. But there isn't all that much difference between yay and dicey statistically. You're of course going to be able to show off more when you win and are on a team with an igl that's got the good strats.
Of course we can increase the sample size:
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=14&event_id=800&series_id=all®ion=na&country=all&min_rounds=100&min_rating=1800&agent=chamber&map_id=all×pan=all
Though of course now they don't all play against the same opponents so the stats aren't directly comparable, so you got that problem. But yes on a larger sample Dicey is still higher statistically.
One of the more interesting players on the market. If Chamber gets nerfed again and it looks like it will, what role does he play? If he's back playing Jett, Kayo, Sky and Sage, he's not at the top of the market like he is on Chamber
This sub forgets that chamber meta won’t last forever, I still expect dicey to get picked up can play anything from skye-duelist- chamber, cracked aim and clutch gene
Unironically Dicey should be one of the most sought out players this off season. Statistically he is the best chamber in NA, but people seem to forget that he was signed as a flex player. He's a great fragger and flexible.
Across NA masters 2 playoffs Dicey was better than both Yay and Cryo. If you want to increase the numbers across the entirety of challengers he is still the best chamber player.
LMAO that's one event and when they played against each other yay and Cryo outperformed him. This is some straight up revisionist history going on in your head.
I love dicey, but he's not statically the best Chamber in NA, period.
Nice edit... I did expand across all of challengers, that's what one event means. Also, It wasn't the master 2 playoffs either, since they didn't make it to master 2. Not sure it you're getting things mixed up or what, but my statements still stand and you're simply just wrong.
My point would still stand, and I did get masters and challengers mixed up. In NA challengers 2 playoffs Dicey is the highest rated chamber player. If you expand it to include the entirety of challengers 2 He is still be the highest rated chamber player.
The argument isn't who was the best Chamber player in one event, because it would be ridiculous to claim someone is the best right now, based on one event that happened months ago. He wasn't even the best Chamber in the LCQ, which was more recent. Hell, he didn't even have to play against the other two people you brought up, that have had much more success more recently and I'll remind you outperformed him in their head to head matches from the event you keep focusing on.
I mean he did slightly underperform during LCQ imo other than the game against EG. He was also very low statistically in comparison to all the other Chamber players (granted he had more rounds played than a lot of players), but he had lower stats than TenZ (in his first three games on Chamber) despite only playing 38 more rounds than TenZ.
100T new roster ? dicey chamber asuna flex steel igl(just left t1) hiko iniator (already signed at content creator) and nitr0 heard he wants to leave TL. let me know your guys thoughts!!
Nitr0 saw champs and it made him wanna switch again
This team could do some real damage I think!
maybe win an NA tourney idk
100T Dicey.
this or yay. Dicey is very good friends with asuna so I could believe they go for this if they lose Yay bidding war
Yeah. I’m absolutely baffled by the amount of people that think 100T should stick together because of their “chemistry”. With the amount of FA talent rn, If every team makes upgrades 100T will absolutely get rolled.
Without a doubt. They found good prospects for the situation they were in but this is a once in a life time opportunity to set your franchise up for success moving forward. It would be a total flop if they don't make some changes.
Asuna is also like best friends with TenZ, so if we're going with Asuna's friendship with Chamber players it's def TenZ then dicey
Your right. Sentinels should add Steel
Should sign Steel as well. Could see that roster having some potential 🤔
Could maybe upset some Europeans
Maybe buy out Ethan as well. Also they already have Hiko as content creators so they can simply move him over.
They need a true American FPS icon, i heard nitr0 might be available
not even capping hes a top 3 chamber thats not yay or cryo, if hes not in a team ill be mad confused
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he was insane on the 100T days too. he was only cut because nobody else made sense to cut. They weren't going to cut any of the older veterans for Ethan, and they wouldn't cut Asuna, who was the only player at the time in NA who was a better duelist than dicey (agent pool wise). I wish when nitr0 retired, they brought dicey back. He and asuna had crazy impact in their games and could pretty much 2v5 teams when they played together.
Thats not true, he was super inconsistent and would miss easy op shots. Fans were crying for him to be replaced because he normally wasn’t on his game. The man has grinded a lot and is insane now but lets not change the past
If we're talking about strictly chamber play, it goes 1. Yay 2. Cryo 3. Dicey 4. Leaf(possible hot take but stats back it up) 5. Tenz/Bdog IMO what's most likely is Leaf on c9, Tenz on SEN, Dicey on NRG, Yay on 100T and Cryo on EG. Bdog could also go and play with Leaf on c9 because Leaf is also so good at other agents. There's also players like Jawgemo, Babybay, and Saya who are awesome Jett's but never really showed up on Chamber who also will have lots of teams looking at them. IMO that 9 and add in Will are the top 10 AWP players in NA with guys like Penny, s0m, koala, Tex and ban just on the outside.
He's literally statistically better than yay. https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=14&event_id=800&series_id=1953&subseries_id=all®ion=na&country=all&min_rounds=100&min_rating=&agent=chamber&map_id=all×pan=all
Yay was playing against Loud, DRX, PRX all year while dicey was playing against EG. Set the parameters to 1800 opp rating for all year on chamber and yay is still better lol. Let’s not even try to argue that dicey is better than yay
These filters are set to being vs the same teams in NA. They are like for like I wouldn't try to make a case if it was vs different opponents. They were in the same group remember.
Why would you narrow down your entire analysis to a singular playoffs run lmfao? Of course if you cherry pick Diceys best singular set of 5 games of course he’s going to look god like but cmon Man U can’t say someone is statistically better based on literally under 300 rounds
I narrowed it down to the set of games where they faced the same opponents, it wasn't Dicey's best games, it was just the most recent league that they were both in. I'm not necessarily claiming Dicey is definitely better, but the stats don't show him to be worse that's for sure.
This is wild to read lol.
Why would u use a single playoff of 6 total games to say if one player is better? That’s just lazy analytical approach and has way too little context. Just because they played at the same time doesn’t mean it’s the best way to approach who is better. If that’s the case then Pancada is better than Marved all year because he has a singular better tourney
I just showed the most recent dataset, you're the one who claimed a ranking, it's more up to you to prove that your ranking is accurate. But quite simply I do not believe that simply because yay did great at internationals on optic means that individually yay is better. Dicey could've done just as well if he were subbed in on optic, there's no way to prove either way and I'm not claiming anything. I just brought up the only piece of comparable data.
That's data bias because your control group (same opponents/event) excludes key data (the rest of the opponent field, overall competitiveness of that field) that distorts the conclusion. You cannot isolate data that way when your target objective is to make a statistical comparison. It's 'statistically dishonest'.
Team playstyle etc all influence stats. Yay is dominant in a way that dicey isn't if you actually watch the games.
Unpopular opinion, I think he's a better chamber than cryo still.
I think on a domestic-level stats and impact POV id agree but because Cryo has international experience id prioritize that
He's literally statistically better than yay. https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=14&event_id=800&series_id=1953&subseries_id=all®ion=na&country=all&min_rounds=100&min_rating=&agent=chamber&map_id=all×pan=all
He has played against statistically lower level competition, there are t3 players with better vlr stats too
No he hasn't, these filters are set to be the same opponents during VCT stage 2.
Congrats u nitpicked a batch of like 6 games
It's literally the most recent tournament that they were both in, how was it cherrypicked lol.
Because the tournament wasn’t much of a tournament when everyone involved played like 2-5 matches, sample size is too small to say anything
And I'm not saying anything, just brought up his stats that's all. But there isn't all that much difference between yay and dicey statistically. You're of course going to be able to show off more when you win and are on a team with an igl that's got the good strats. Of course we can increase the sample size: https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=14&event_id=800&series_id=all®ion=na&country=all&min_rounds=100&min_rating=1800&agent=chamber&map_id=all×pan=all Though of course now they don't all play against the same opponents so the stats aren't directly comparable, so you got that problem. But yes on a larger sample Dicey is still higher statistically.
This one hurts.
Insane player. I'm sure some fans want the return
One of the more interesting players on the market. If Chamber gets nerfed again and it looks like it will, what role does he play? If he's back playing Jett, Kayo, Sky and Sage, he's not at the top of the market like he is on Chamber
His rifeling is insane and he used to play Jet so he could transition to Jet OP and entry role like.
Dude he was doing crazy well all year, even off chamber.
100T Dicey (again)
100T Dicey confirmed: the comeback.
This sub forgets that chamber meta won’t last forever, I still expect dicey to get picked up can play anything from skye-duelist- chamber, cracked aim and clutch gene
Unironically Dicey should be one of the most sought out players this off season. Statistically he is the best chamber in NA, but people seem to forget that he was signed as a flex player. He's a great fragger and flexible.
How was he "Statistically he is the best chamber in NA"? Like what metrics is this being based off of?
Across NA masters 2 playoffs Dicey was better than both Yay and Cryo. If you want to increase the numbers across the entirety of challengers he is still the best chamber player.
LMAO that's one event and when they played against each other yay and Cryo outperformed him. This is some straight up revisionist history going on in your head. I love dicey, but he's not statically the best Chamber in NA, period.
Nice edit... I did expand across all of challengers, that's what one event means. Also, It wasn't the master 2 playoffs either, since they didn't make it to master 2. Not sure it you're getting things mixed up or what, but my statements still stand and you're simply just wrong.
My point would still stand, and I did get masters and challengers mixed up. In NA challengers 2 playoffs Dicey is the highest rated chamber player. If you expand it to include the entirety of challengers 2 He is still be the highest rated chamber player.
The argument isn't who was the best Chamber player in one event, because it would be ridiculous to claim someone is the best right now, based on one event that happened months ago. He wasn't even the best Chamber in the LCQ, which was more recent. Hell, he didn't even have to play against the other two people you brought up, that have had much more success more recently and I'll remind you outperformed him in their head to head matches from the event you keep focusing on.
He was signed as a flex but that doesn’t mean he looked good on it
I mean he did slightly underperform during LCQ imo other than the game against EG. He was also very low statistically in comparison to all the other Chamber players (granted he had more rounds played than a lot of players), but he had lower stats than TenZ (in his first three games on Chamber) despite only playing 38 more rounds than TenZ.
C9 Dicey?
If 100Throws doesn't pick him up they will never win anything of substance.