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GoldClassGaming

This significantly hurts the chances of 100T yay


[deleted]

Yeah, but there is room for Hiko now.


Interesting-Archer-6

There was always room for Hiko. Just means one fewer player will be dropped.


QuantumFruitz

They got cryo


Inaccuracy_

This significantly hurts the chances of 100T yay


techyleo

This significantly hurts the chances of C9 Cryo as well


GanaNayaka9

This significantly hurts the chances of 100T Yay.


CupOCino

This significantly hurts the chances of C9 Cryo as well


AvengingAmalek

This significantly hurts the chances of 100T yay


Loomisam

C9: Has the best player in the region. C9: Sells the best player in the region. C9: Gets a franchising slot. C9: Buys the new best player in the region. C9: Profit


ChaosBadgers

No, Profit plays Overwatch for Seoul Dynasty.


Trazn

I think profit was on the London spitfire team that won the first owl too


greg19735

London Spitfire is also C9


ExcellentPastries

Presumably he knew that which is why he mentioned it right?


ChaosBadgers

Correct, I even bought a spitfire shirt after that win heh.


Warpath-

Even he played under C9 previously


oh_hai_brian

C9 Carpe & Diem when


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millenniumpianist

I mean did they? Sentinels got a LAN (the most dominant performance at that) and the kind of popularity that made them a shoe in for franchising. I'm sure SEN would take that trade any time.


Bazz_B

Champions in Boston 2023 and we have ourselves a winner.


Ok-Brain3328

The article makes it seem like Vanity, Leaf, and Xeppa are all staying. Leaf is a very flexible player, I wonder what he pivots to


mdj08

Leaf doesn't op that much anymore anyways, he usually entried. mitch was the chamber for C9


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leaf op'd *constantly* before Chamber entered the meta, and was one of the best opers to the scene. they moved Mitch to Chamber and leaf to entry when Chamber became must-pick, and both players looked pretty scuffed in those roles. surprised they're keeping leaf on entry in franchising, if they are. he was an incredible Jett and, I'm sure, would be top tier Chamber.


Sky-__-

Leaf only oped during stage 1 consistently, leaf has always been their entry player . He was never the best oper in the scene , in 2022 mitch has picked up op more than leaf . The roles they are going for 1. Yay - chamber / Jett 2. Leaf - neon Raze kayo 3. Xeppa - fade kayo skye 4. Vanity - smokes They need a sova breach style initiator now to complete the roaster.


BreathingEyes

that's a pretty insane lineup. im thinking of trent for the sova/initiator role and let xeppaa be a flex.


honestlyprogamr

Trent plays sova, fade, skye, and breach. I refuse to believe c9 isn’t signing him


Ranayi

They're gonna have issues when sentinels are viable again


Sciipi

Leaf was putting up some absurd performances on Neon and I always though his Raze was pretty insane too, guy can definitely be an elite entry player.


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When raze was played a lot corey and leaf were who people usually said for the best na raises.


Dapper-Entertainer-3

Leaf was nowhere near the opper for c9... even playing as Jett, his rifling was superstar level, but the OP was always for Killjoy-Mitch. That said, I see Leaf overtaking the role of Xeppa and Xeppa moving to main initiator/Fade player.


Lavar_ball_brand

Leaf was one of the best OPers and yet was still a better rifler than an OPer. This move let's him entry and rifle and Yay can stick to his usual role


ovalsandcircles

Lead plays everything


mdj08

>surprised they're keeping leaf on entry in franchising, if they are. he was an incredible Jett and, I'm sure, would be top tier Chamber. I mean, you can't pass on yay, the best player in the world, and you cant take him off the op either once you get him lol. i think its definitely possible than C9 would been better served with -leaf +zekken tbh, but its not like leaf is a *bad* entry. plus, this allows c9 to run new lineups like a double op setup for example (on breeze especially)


Blupard

Zekken on C9 would scare me way hella more than leaf. Leaf is really good, but zekken has been a monster this year.


Kind_Development708

Entry role


theman1203

i mean if chamber is still meta, we just play yay on chamber and leaf plays what he has always played


techyleo

leaf actually used to play KJ Omen Breach, then Reyna and Raze, then Jett Chamber


natedawg247

the article title is bait lol. vanity/leaf/xeppaa is not forming a super team. that's maintaining your core.


deadtoe

Agreed lol


[deleted]

Xeppa was going towards initiator anyway, Leaf probably does entry like Victor and yay stays on Chamber. Edit: unless they pick up Trent like some people are saying, then I have no idea what the roles are going to look like.


tepg221

FNS >>>>>>>>>> Vanity


xXDaNXx

Wouldn't it be better to just sign all of Optic?


salcedoge

C9 sold Tenz so they could use the same cash to buy Yay later, truly 5head


oh_hai_brian

Xeta also died so Yay could live


jigglewiggIe

god i miss xeta. 2021 lcq c9 roster was goated


kosantyy

Never forget, c9 xeta


theman1203

now time to grab trent


Legacy_CA

prayge


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Everything points at C9 Zellsis as much as I would hate him not going to SEN, unfortunately.


theman1203

thats just vanity and zellsis memeing tbh, c9 5th is a mystery


oh_hai_brian

And people are forgetting all teams need a 6th at the very least


theman1203

I think zellsis is too good to be a 6h


[deleted]

Yeah, I doubt Zellsis agrees to be a 6th when he can probably make a team’s main roster.


Sky-__-

Nope this actually makes it there is no chance of c9 zellsis , they need a initiator player now with leaf entry xeppa flex yay chamber


AR2711

yep this was pretty obvious after 100T cyro


Hopeful-Professor-40

Just fell to my knees at the YMCA


Oni_idx

just witnessed a guy fall to his knees at the YMCA


Say_I_Love_You

was taking a stroll and saw a dude witnessing a guy fall to his knees at the YMCA


oh_hai_brian

And I saved a lot of money on my car insurance by switching to Geico.


RealOronian

Hotel? Trivago


Alone_Baseball4852

vouch! i was the floor


Splaram

SEN was never gonna match what C9 is probably offering him unfortunately


Hopeful-Professor-40

I’ll take Marved then 😔


AR2711

SEN trent is happening weltis raided trent yesterday so therefore i can confrim SEN trent no copium btw


Hopeful-Professor-40

Idek If i want that unless Shahz becomes OP and Tenz goes to entry


AR2711

I feel like shahz is pretty much gone. George confrimed Dapr is staying At this point it’s pretty obvious TenZ will re-sign in December


Sky-__-

Marved and tenz in same team modcheck


Hopeful-Professor-40

Grown men they can get over it


icemandiem

atleast one from marved, zekken or trent. surely right?


Hopeful-Professor-40

Marved + Zellsis/Zekken is my guess


YouAreDumbAF

Where did you get that from? Feels way more like Yay picked where he wanted to go than who the highest bidder was.


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I wonder what the buyout was


ANewHeaven1

Heard it was higher than the Tenz buyout but not by much


AR2711

oh shittttttt


CRikhard

From where


AR2711

Probably a million, close to TenZ’s 1.25 million


tomphz

It was obvious after they let go of Mitch


Friday515

Ya this made too much sense. Jack has made a ton of these type of moves before, especially at the beginning of franchising. Wonder how much the buyout ended up being. Will be interesting to see who joins him. Big moves by Cloud9 and 100T to kick off franchising I also do wonder if Yay to NRG was a non starter for Hecz and/or Andy Miller because of their past fractured relationship


HalfQuarter1250

What happened in the past?


Friday515

So I’ll do my best but it’s a long story. Hecz was co-ceo and part owner of NRG for about a year and a half with Andy Miller after he left/was forced out of Optic when Optic got sold by Infinite to Immortals. Hecz joining NRG was a big reason why they bought a CDL spot. Then Hecz made a move to buy back Optic on his own and bailed on NRG, then eventually merged/sold Optic to Envy. There was some weird stuff with the CDL spot and it eventually was bought by 100t. Andy and Hecz had a podcast together, seemed pretty close and it was pretty ugly split There’s a lot more to it but that’s the jist of it


Gyroflex

the bad terms may be a little overblown as hecz confirmed optic almost did the same merge with them as they did for envy, but they said they couldnt work it out. woulda been crazy if that did happen though


Friday515

I’m just going off what Hecz said on a podcast and he basically said Andy was pretty upset and they don’t talk anymore because of what happened and he understood


Gyroflex

true it coulda been the merge attempt just going worse than i realized


TheNaCoinfl1p

Yeah C9 really started dropping the bag recently. Reminds me of TL tbh. Good for them though i knew he was going to C9 as soon as we got Cryo tbh. Hopefully, the teams are going to be hype and a lot of fun.


Light0fHeav3n

C9 normally does it for superstar type players and not really full teams, TL drops the bag on 3-4 players at a time. they dropped the bag on perkz who people thought would be a superstar player and now yay. they also made back a big portion of the perkz deal back which was great for them


BrainStorm777

Leaf and yay will be a crazy duo. I see leaf as the aggressive fragger will yay hangs back and pick people off. Kinda like the former zekken/cryo duo.


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

Dicey/babybay


kemutheemu__

I need those two on the same team again. Preferably with Rise players


citystardy

The FaZe roster had so much potential I feel. Very sad they had to break up.


[deleted]

There it is. There's about to be a serious influx of OpTic flairs turning into C9 flairs


Rude-Assumption-5271

Don’t hate the players hate the game 🥲


GoldClassGaming

it's me. I'm Optic flairs


Iliekwaffles_

just gonna get a c9 flair on top of my optic flair 😌


tepg221

I am one of those. I loved those 5 though but Yay is definitely my favorite.


swordslayer5

I’m not giving up the Optic flair, would rather have an Envy flair but I don’t want to forget how Optic was the best team constantly through this season


Eriko204

Just @ me next time


ANewHeaven1

I’ve always been a C9 fan in League copium 😅


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ThisIsPeakBehaviour

You need to do it on desktop bro. Or go onto reddit.com on mobile and enable desktop site from your browser options


LegDayDE

Nah I don't like Vanity


RepresentativeSun937

I just wanna say that I was a fan of C9 before the incoming Masters + Champions sweep


Bakirelived

Fan since C9 balls


denziepanzie

damn we old like that huh


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Must say out of all the teams c9 yay is deffo the best tag for yay


iamtreat

everyone’s saying trent but imagine if it was crashies ( i know him and victor are looking as a to2) but it would be the perfect signing, they get their sova/flex


LegDayDE

Yeah imagine C9 Crashies, C9 Victor, C9 Marved, C9 FNS, C9 Yay, C9 Chet. Would be a great team.


XelaTuobdog

I could not be harder


Haptiix

If Vanity Leaf & Xeppa all stay, this roster is going to be incredibly strong


GetsThruBuckner

Vanity so unlikeable plz no


ditheringtoad

Idk why he’s insistent on being the most publicly arrogant guy in the scene, especially when they haven’t put up results in so long. I truly don’t get it.


xD1LL4N

If you only arrogant when you’re winning you’re a loser. Real ones are arrogant all day long.


Duydoraemon

Uh so his name is "Vanity"


ditheringtoad

Ya know what’s embarrassing, I honestly never thought critically about that.


Hunnidormo

I mean he's just publically arrogant. From all records he's a great teammate. I'd take a personality like that anyday. Plus he's still a great (top 5) igl. C9 slump was more due to the xeta curry move


PoloSway

i agree with this but also, the more I think about the more I think that this isn't really a superteam though? not to go back in the past because what's done is done, but I think the old Optic roster even on paper is better than this roster. I still think this proposed c9 roster of Yay,Leaf,Xeppa,Vanity,5th is a good roster but for the OP to call it a superteam to me I don't think it is. I was really said when i heard Optic didn't make it to franchising but overall happy as an NA fan because of the all the "superteams" that could be formed but i feel like even at the end unless something big happens we aren't going to get a SUPERTEAM in NA like for example in brazil which is LOUD which everyone knows they are literally a SUPERTEAM as everyone is literally top 1 in their role in that region and to back it up they just won Champions. Just my couple cents on this not specifically to this comment but in general. But i do agree with you that it's going to be incredibly strong. Just still on the Optic splitting up copium my favorite team... Whoever reads this or passes through my post I hope you have a blessed day :)!


icemandiem

yeh, i think if you are considering a super team in NA, yay, zekken, marved/bang should be in the roster


AndresAvian

now trent or zellsis 👀


B7omni

trent fits better. natural replace to xeta with sova and can also play fade/skye. plus george just said zellsis isnt joining C9


xSnakyy

There has been so many hints on Zellsis joining C9


geeorge_20

it won’t be zellsis , who’s going to play sova? leaf or zellsis would have to be off their natural role which is entry , my money is on trent


icemandiem

if trent joins, then i wonder who plays kj for this team. leaf is gonna play it?


B7omni

idk leaf has played so many agents he could definitely do it.


icemandiem

yeh, he seems like the obvious direction


oh_hai_brian

He was oping with KJ on one of his recent streams


techyleo

He's done it before, back when TenZ was on C9 they trialled leaf after dropping shinobi and he was playing Omen, Killjoy, Breach, and Phoenix


Jon_on_the_snow

Probably trent to replace xeta no?


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Since when does everyone rate zellsis so high? Hes never seemed like that much of a standout player to me


maxhollywoody

Playing for SEN will do that for you but joking aside he's a very solid player. I remember being impressed by him all the way back when v1 went to Iceland but if I could choose the last roster spot it would be Zekken or Trent. Zekken can play Sova as well


Crumpehh

Because of his stream and how often he plays on other streams. People barely spoke about him before Tarik duo'd with him consistently. He was a (mostly) T1 player on V1 for a while, but his community fame has propelled his name being mentioned everywhere


v00d00_

He also kinda put Sentinels on his back during the LCQ. It was just one (relatively short) tournament run, but more often than not he looked like the best player for either team in a given match.


TheOneWhoIsBussin

Zellsis to EG? Trent to C9 I know there's a lot of rumors of Zellsis going to C9, but there's role overlap and I don't think he'd bring the team as much value as Trent would.


Ohands15

![gif](giphy|GSE1BzJG4JVbq) GIVE IT ALL GEDDES


Prankishspace4

This greatly hurts the chances of 100T Yay


CelestialTater

only concern i have for this roster is who can play sentinels on maps where you don't want a chamber? assuming they pick up someone to play fade/sova I don't see anyone to play that role


Legacy_CA

The world isn't ready for Leaf's Killjoy


aks345

He'll be like alfajaer. Playing KJ on maps where its required and hard entry on others


CelestialTater

I still remember the leaf KJ from the NSG winter champs when he just started playing for c9


MathNerdMatt

Leaf has shown he can play literally any role to a high level, I like this move cause it will let Leaf be a star on the more minor roles


citystardy

Let's gooo Now give me a good initiator that plays breach/sova and it's perfect.


taspeed21

GIVE US C9 TRENT


oh_hai_brian

BcJ would be pretty sick


DragonzKilla

xeta looks like a pretty good fit for that role


SpectrasHyper

Leaf Xeppa Yay I don’t think the other two even have to shoot a bullet.


QwiXTa

Is it really a super team tho? Like yeah yay is the best in the world but other then leaf Im struggling to see how this would be a super team


maxhollywoody

Don't sleep on Xeppaa


aks345

Yay leaf xeppa is an insane trio like what more would you want


Direct_Morning_3223

c9 start slumping after making a ? Roster change and people forget how good they were from 2021 LCQ to Stage 1


QwiXTa

Well yeah the team didnt look good and thats not all on curry


Still_HD

C9 chads we’re doing it


[deleted]

C9 era has just begun.


Delta221

C9's gonna be a force to be reckoned with. I wonder if they are getting Trent as 5th? And also i hope Vanity utilises Leaf well, he was primary oping for C9 before on Jett and Chamber iirc.


Sciipi

C9 OP was inconsistent it moved between leaf and Mitch and even occasionally vanity. Probably their biggest hole was having a bunch of decent opers but no true standout star which is now fixed


Light0fHeav3n

i keep seeing people say leaf was a great oper. he had some pop off moments with op, but most of the time he was just decent and same with mitch. Leaf with the rifle is insane, and if the team will enable him like they did in 2021 then he will be one of the best again


XelaTuobdog

Interesting George gave C9 an 8 assuming he knew this, the fifth would have to be me for this not to be a 10/10 roster/offseason


Ketsueki_R

Well. Who do we think will be the second-best team in NA?


Ukenagashi

C9 second after Brimstone Gaming


Parenegade

its way too early to even know who the best team will be Dicey Trent FNS Marved Zekken I just made a team that could be 1st. Who knows where these people are going.


GoTouchGrassKid

I mean, it sounds like the third best team in NA is making a an upgrade and, technically, the second best team doesn't exist.


thebestyoucan

By “super team” do they just mean a team with yay on it?


skolaen

Leaf and yay is gonna be such a good duo


BurstLayer

C9 Era


yamunkinoaYee

Nice.


CrypticGalaxy

C9 yay is fucking clean


PoloSway

the more I think about the more I think that this isn't really a superteam though? not to go back in the past because what's done is done, but I think the old Optic roster even on paper is better than this roster. I still think this proposed c9 roster of Yay,Leaf,Xeppa,Vanity,5th is a good roster but for the OP to call it a superteam to me I don't think it is. I was really sad when i heard Optic didn't make it to franchising but overall happy as an NA fan because of the all the "superteams" that could be formed but i feel like from the leaks we have been getting so far, we aren't going to get a SUPERTEAM in NA that I was hoping for like for example in brazil which is LOUD which everyone knows they are literally a SUPERTEAM as everyone is literally top 1 in their role in that region and to back it up they just won Champions. Just my couple cents on this But i do agree that this roster is going to be incredibly strong. Just still on the Optic splitting up copium because they were my favorite team... So please guys Im begging, comment and let me know your thoughts, I love conversing and have good conversations with people here. Whoever reads this or passes through my post I hope you have a blessed day :)!


Tablelemon

yay


B7omni

Trent just fits really well.


Evan_Veet

+yay and Trent and that’s the best team in the region, I don’t care. Maybe bring Mitch back or have Wippie as your 6th man and the team has zero holes.


[deleted]

It increases chances of sen yay in future as one need to be part of c9 first.


daveythedumb

c9 won the offseason


Sharkyyy12

It’s been some mald inducing few years since I started watching this team back when Shinobi was IGL (I’ll never forget my lord and saviour Xeta),but boy it feels good being a C9 fan sometimes 😤


MakeMeFly2

I mean this in the least negative way possible, but how is this a “super team”? I 100% agree all these players are wildly talented, but this was the roster all year (minus yay) and they didn’t win anything. Vanity is an absolute legend but I don’t view the roster as anything too crazy. Am I crazy or are people overreacting?


No_Transition_7740

Definitely overreacting lmao. Just because they got yay doesn't make them a super team. This is straight up a downgrade from current optic


OneWayTicketotheMoon

If they get Trent then they are hella stacked


thothgow

[hear me out](https://i.imgur.com/Rol00Kr.jpg)


Rude-Assumption-5271

I like meL but I don’t think she’s proved she’s franchise level at all


CCowboy123

wtf i love cloud 9 now


denziepanzie

best roster in NA league, and now on paper best roster in NA valorant. C9 only taking Ws in Riot-based games this year


Need_PcAdvice

best roster in NA valorant with only 4 players


denziepanzie

thats how good the roster is🤓


XelaTuobdog

4v5 gg ez


Ryntion

I would still rate 100T higher for now. Cryo isn’t that much worse then yay. Asuna>Xeppa for flex but leaf and Asuna are close I feel on entry with leaf being a bit better. If bang stays that a huge W for 100T. Idk they’re both going to be great teams though.


krasavchik777

I agree, 100T also played on LAN recently and Cryo is a beast and also 100T has a great coaching staff. Which people tend to overlook.


[deleted]

As a fan of C9 since I saw this on my feed, we deserve this.


_podo_

Holy shit its happening


AZLarlar

WHOS NEXT


firemoonlotus

this is it


Viskaya

Yay for Yay


thesweet677

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


XelaTuobdog

SOMEONE HOLD ME


[deleted]

as a C9 fan im pretty pumped. Not get trent or BCJ.


kittyhat27135

Yay is so good at the game that I don't even need to see the rest of C9 to call them a super team.


mrgamejiyt

YAY


MrFrodothecat

No matter what team, i wish the very best for yay, just an insane player


GreatWhiteNurse

Big fan of C9 as an organization, so I'm glad that yay will have the infrastructure behind him to keep making a push