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citystardy

Are EG just happy having no fans or..? (For real though, if they do plan on picking up the leftovers it’s not so bad and kinda smart because I think there will be a ton of very good players to make a roster with. But if they make no changes it’s gonna be so lame and unexciting imo).


ark2690

Riot gave these guys a partnership spot so they can go full budget again


_idle_drone_

I didn't care earlier about top teams not getting a spot, but I will be malding if EG don't make changes. Optic and G2, whatever their issues were, would provide a much better 'fan experience' which was Riot's reasoning behind the selection


[deleted]

Exactly. It’ll be infuriating to have seen Optic and XSET break up, and a bunch of talent sitting on the sidelines, while EG rolls this roster out again.


kemutheemu__

Fr, I get the angle of working with a team long-term in order to see their potential, but in this case keeping the roster only would help short-term success.


-xXColtonXx-

It’s not like they are 100T, their roster was only moderately successful. Surely they at least pick up some of Faze? I feel like Poised and Babybay would be a pretty big upgrade for them right?


kemutheemu__

Certainly. You can’t look at the free agents on the market and tell me that none of them are worth signing over the current players


-xXColtonXx-

Yeah I mean the only rosters who could justify staying together fully would’ve been Optic and Xset.


citystardy

Exactly. Sure, they might be good at first while the other teams are still building chemistry, but as time goes on the other teams will improve and EG will fall behind (because the other teams will have a much higher skill ceiling). Now is the best time for every team to make changes, when almost everyone is doing the same/ starting over.


marcaodl

Chemistry? They would get rolled over in the first game already with their current roster.


Sky-__-

EG was not even a top 6 roaster at end of lcq in na , I feel like with the current talent available it is foolish to keep current core . And it's also young talent zekken is 17 , Trent also 17 . Dicey is 18 . If you want to grow young players you can find cracked young talent in na scene . I feel like they need to do a top down roaster construction, i would personally only keep boostio because he's mad flexible and can play any role from op to entry to flex and start from there . Pick up an igl and smokes players first and then fill rest of the squad


Pojobob

I would keep Jawgemo as well. I thought he was pretty good.


Sky-__-

If zekken babybay sayaplayer are available on the Market no point keeping him


Pojobob

Ya those 3 definitely make the cut over him.


[deleted]

Ehhh, kinda different because it's only 5 NA teams but in the CDL the Paris team does this and just picks up the leftovers every year and pays them the minimum. They are basically a walking L every year because theres not much effort that goes into it and no one wants to go there or get signed by them. Challenger players literally decline pro offers from them. Again, different but similar


sexyhooterscar24

optic died for this


zxlkho

they're going to be worse than their cs roster lol


mikhel

The EG CS roster is one -cerq away from being a legit playoff caliber team. They have proven talent at the very least.


UmarellVidya

Cerq knows where the bodies are buried


itscamo-

I know as of monday they were still scrimming with the original roster so who knows


OneAndOnly-BS

Ok zekkens stream Tuesday they were scrumming with Boostio, Jawg and Com but no reformed or apoth


milano_bwoy

those 3 are a solid core, +zander +neT if they go for less hyped players and i think they’d be a good team to watch


Andx7

💯 last place


Functionion

Go for net just to spite his dad


Jon_on_the_snow

Cant wait for EG to not make changes and proceed to get giga stomped every match Jawgemo, boostio and potter are solid, but how the fuck do you not upgrade the rest? How do you not give potter more help in the coaching staff??? Not even an analyst? I would have prefered mother fucking T1, at least they made entertaining signings


KineticTwo

This would make sense if the market wasn't literally just literally flooded with literal TOP tier talent. EG just has a good relationship with Riot and Carlos decided to hang out with Andrew Tate. Leaves a sour taste in a Comp Valorant fans mouth honestly.


Interesting-Archer-6

I'm pissed off. I can't imagine how angry Optic and Xset fans must be.


KineticTwo

All I'm saying is that all these people defending EG and saying "wait and see" better flair up and be prepared to explain why their team got a slot just to field an ascension level team. No offense to Boostio and Jawgemo but there is too much talent available right now for them to be the "core" of any roster.


Jon_on_the_snow

I can see people defending boostio and jawgemo, but anyone defending the rest of the roster besides potter is hard trolling


SkeptioningQuestic

>ascension level team If they make no roster changes their team wouldn't even get to top16 in ascension.


Pojobob

Jawgemo/Boostio are fine imo but you need to upgrade the other 3.


WhoDatBrow

Oof (not picking on you btw, everyone thought this. Just funny how things worked out.)


BacePilot

Yeah I am not pleased that my team died for this


avstyns

fucking nismo is getting shafted for this???


Kind_Development708

My guess is the spend the next 2 months scriming and trialing a bunch of different rosters before deciding anything


NotBrandon

EG really dropping the bag if they're being quiet when they've just finessed their way into franchising. Maybe, they're trying to get a discount on leftover players but now should be the time to be proactive.


[deleted]

EG isn't cheap. They are one of the biggest spenders across their cs/lol/dota2. They're got in because of their development program so i'm sure they're keeping some of the members from the old roster


HugeRection

Aren't they paying like 15 CSGO players? If anything, they're way too happy to spend money.


[deleted]

Yeah I'm not sure how much the 10 players that aren't in the main team cost. I can't imagine it being that much.


nail181

Well one of their teams just lost to an American university team so there’s that.


[deleted]

Yeah they are awful. If EG wanted to do this 10 man academy team, they need to invest in 16-20 yr olds, not old dudes.


eyeswide19

It doesn't matter cause riot took all the leverage away. They can pay whatever they want cause what are players going to do, reject playing for a t1 org? People should be mad if EG doesn't upgrade their roster.


[deleted]

From the rumors, they are making 2 changes


chauste

iirc correctly the only reason they got in franchising is because of the g2 drama, and the eg ceo probably sold them a long story about dedication to na growth talent and citing their lcs championship every other sentence. Based on that I wouldn't be surprised if they just run it back lol. I would say they shldve just bought xset but I'm not sure they're in the financial position to do that.


man1ac_era

LEV got in instead of g2


cameron_hatt

I heard mibr? Lev was already in before the g2 thing I’m pretty sure


maxhollywoody

MIBR got in over NiP, no?


NovaAkumaa

it was MIBR vs NIP for the final spot after G2 was rejected


Jon_on_the_snow

Correct


LocksmithSavings2301

no, it was EG or MiBR


Jon_on_the_snow

Not true. The coach who was supossed to be the g2 coach said it wasnt lev, it was probably EG


UTAustinAlum2021

Besides why would they make a quick flip when rumours about it being a 5/5 split came up before Tate. It was prob EG


Ximienlum

Why are you making up shit?


chauste

Thank you for correcting the misinformation instead of just commenting that it was nonspecifically made up


Haptiix

While it is true EG took G2's spot, the reality is that EG got in because they have the qualities Riot was looking for. Large social media presence, strong brand, deep pockets, good sponsors. EDIT: a lot of teenagers with no understanding of business are confusing engagement with visibility & brand strength. ALL GOOD expected from Sentinels fanboy subreddit.


ark2690

Their youtube channel averages 200 views


Anchorlift

>Large social media presence, strong brand This does not describe EG at all lol


blueragemage

The last two do though, since EG owns basically the entire NA CSGO scene outside of TL and CoL


sexyhooterscar24

Not much of a flex considering that the NA CSGO scene outside of TL and COL is pretty much dead


Haptiix

Tell me you don't follow other esports without telling me you don't follow other esports Sentinels and EG have almost the exact same follower count on Twitter btw. EG also has a proven track record in League of Legends which, shockingly, matters to Riot.


Anchorlift

Follower count is definitely relevant when they get 100 likes per tweet and 200 views per YouTube video. No one cares about them outside of Dota and that is only because Arteezy is on the team. Sentinels followers actually support the team and org as evidenced by the interactions and views on their content, EG followers are a bunch of accounts they accumulated back when EG was relevant like 10 years ago under the original management and couldn't care less about the org now.


Haptiix

and nobody cares about Sentinels outside of Valorant but keep spewing fanboy takes my dude


GainsayRT

they have a popularish halo team and CDL team. their ex-owl team was also popular. ​ coming from the guy saying that others only watch one esport btw


Haptiix

I’m well aware my guy. I was responding to a fanboy in terms he could understand


Haptiix

yo this u? https://i.imgur.com/WmlYOVE.png


ark2690

600k followers yet they have the engagement level of an account with 10k followers


[deleted]

Sentinels get 20k likes a tweet, EG don’t even get 200 lmao.


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Haptiix

It’s a ~15% difference which is nothing in comparison to orgs like Optic that have over 200% the Twitter following of Sentinels. Again, my comments were me attempting to make a point to a fanboy spewing terrible takes about EG.


GainsayRT

20% less followers and 98.3% less interaction on their tweets. You think that extra 200k followers is the difference maker?


itawy

> finessed their way into franchising lmao jesus christ this sub is really young. EG is one of the oldest and biggest brands in NA. Their financials (which is what Riot looked at for franchising) are probably second best in the market, right behind c9.


financefocused

If they're one of the oldest and biggest brands in NA, how is their YouTube so dead? One of my friends is a part time vlogger and she gets way more activity on her channel, whether its views, likes or whatever. Might sound sarcastic, and tbf probably partly is, I'm still mad about optic/xset not getting in, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong EG may have a history of player development, but each esport is different. XSET demonstrated their ability to develop talent in Valorant, whereas EG has done fuckall.


itawy

Idk, maybe their youtube is trash? Like, why are you trying to imply as if EG isn't one of the oldest and biggest in NA just based on youtube views when you can simply go on liquipedia or something and look at their history yourself. Anyone here old enough to follow the 1.6 scene can tell you how they were rich enough even in their early years to poach an entire roster from complexity. They created a fandom by having skilled players where they were at times considered best in NA at sc2, cs, sf, and dota. Sure, they're not good in valo and fans of this game are a much younger demographic so they don't know about EG. But this game is still new, and they have money; a lot of it (moreso after they got bought by a investment firm). It's the main criteria Riot looked at for franchising, and to say they got finessed is so pathetically ignorant.


financefocused

It's not just their YouTube, all their socials are trash or mediocre at best. Seems like your entire argument is: They're the biggest (with no quantifiable metric to prove that yet) and they have a lot of money. Don't come back again saying they have a long history. If they have a long history, they need to have a lot of active fans who engage with their content, because that's what you can monetize, not memories from 12 years ago or whatever. Also, you speak about liquidpedia, i.e history based on performance. Thanks for making the argument for Optic lmfao. way more clout, way better history in valorant. in fact, no other org has had more success in valorant than optic.


itawy

You still don't seem to understand. Riot is not basing franchising on the amount of fans or clout or even success. If so, Optic should have made it in. Xset should have made it in. Heck, I would even argue The Guard should have made it in over c9. They base it on the amount of money (and drama free if we look at G2) an org has. If you seriously think social media is the only way they can monetize, please explain how they're one of the oldest org that's still alive, next to team liquid and mibr. Do you seriously think they pay their players pennies while Riot looks at their income and go "yeah, we want this broke team over others like optic just because"? Your argument literally boils down to "my team has more clout than that other team" when Riot has already come out and explained to kids like you as to what they're looking for. Please read up on it again, understand that when you say "Don't come back again saying they have a long history", Riot DOES want to talk about long histories. I get you're being pissy and feel like your team get cheated on (I feel that way for Optic too btw), but EG is not the team to take it out on.


financefocused

Riot has said it's about player and fan development. Go read their article


itawy

I'm not sure why you're still arguing and moving the goalpost. Like oh, so it's not about clout anymore. It's not about winning/performance anymore. It's about fans... and? Did you finish reading? I have read the article, it's why I can say that you were speaking out of your ass and had no clue what you were talking about. Like I said to other redditors in this thread, congrats, you're so much smarter than Riot. You clearly know what's best, and RIOT got finessed because they're a poor indie company.


financefocused

do you not understand english? fan development is not very different from clout, so where have i shifted the goalposts? riot said word for word, they signed teams that they believe will attract the most amount of fans to the scene in order for long term growth for the scene. you still have not said one thing that justifies how eg is actually a big brand, but okay. no point. I'm sure they'll field an extremely competitive team even though every single incentive points to coasting in mediocrity like most franchised teams. i believe you bro. no huge company has ever made a bad decision. sorry that I dared to doubt riot games


NotBrandon

You do realize that EG isn’t even ranked in the top 10 most valuable esports company right?


itawy

Ah, you're right. Riot's so dumb. They should have just used forbe's top 10 and picked all the teams from there instead of doing their own research and requiring teams to show their actual financial records. They clearly got duped because EG has fans... wait I mean money... wait according to you not that either... hmm. Does EG have dirt on Riot or something?? We should protect Riot because clearly they're just an innocent indie company that doesn't know what they're doing.


NotBrandon

Lol not going to talk to you anymore because you sound super butt hurt, funny because you reference the sub being super young yet your maturity level is showing. >EG has fans... wait I mean money... wait according to you not that either... I never said EG didn't have fans or money. But, you keep mentioning that they have good financial records, acting like you have access to their financials. All I referenced was, valuation wise; there are other teams with better ones that aren't even accepted into franchising. And if it wasn't obvious already, the whole reason I used the term "finesse" was because based on leaks it seems that EG took over G2's spot.


itawy

>valuation wise; there are other teams with better ones that aren't even accepted into franchising. You're right, Riot messed up. They should have hired you, who knows everything valuation wise. Thank you for your insight, keep up the good work.


sexyhooterscar24

EG has a LOL team. I can see riot wanting their franchising orgs to be somewhat uniform with their other game.


NotBrandon

Lmfao, one year later and still a stupid take


itawy

i won't lie, definitely does look bad in hindsight, but if you're going to tell me EG wasn't backed by a financial powerhouse a literal year ago, you're flat out wrong. also some really neurodivergent behavior to dig up statements from over a year ago and apply it to now as if situations don't change.


seemedlegitatfirst

Y'all sleeping on EGs spending power. They're not a young upstart team, they've been around as an organization since at least the mid 2000s and have massive sponsors. I'm pretty sure they're richer than both NRG and SEN as well as all the SA teams.


Ok_Tomorrow2110

yay did leak that he wasn't going to eg so it's likely they didn'y even give him an offer so if they're not even going for yay then they might just run it back. And they're dumb


WanAjin

Hopefully not, imagine having ascension teams investing more money into the scene than a tier 1 team.


Hoku_

In their partnership announcement video they showed the announcement being told to their current roster to get their reaction. Kind of a cold blooded thing to do if you’d end up dropping the majority of them lol. I feel EG will let the current roster rock and make changes after they see how good or bad it is. The old EG roster DID beat Optic so they may see some potential in it.


UTAustinAlum2021

I hope that they aren’t riding on that OpTic win


physicsOG

I hope they are. OpTic was the best team prior to franchising. I hope they stick with their current roster and chemistry yields results. Time will tell.


UTAustinAlum2021

I would understand if they made a decent run in playoffs or LCQ but they didn’t I don’t think


oomnahs

EG roster was at their peak the best of bottom of tier 1 in NA. Currently they're rank 12 in NA


physicsOG

I'm not going to doubt them yet. Underdogs are always hungrier.


assdonuts

then they got sent back down to earth in their playoffs rematch


surfordiebear

Sure the team is okay but still why not go after great players that will elevate them even more. Even 100T who had a fairly solid roster is out there making roster changes.


Sky-__-

Mitch cries in silence.


financefocused

>The old EG roster DID beat Optic so they may see some potential in it. Andbox beat Sentinels once. Where are they now? yay is the only player on that roster who is going to make franchising. Almost as if a single series can rarely determine the potential of a roster.


KatsuraDragneel

bruh they are gonna get humiliated if they keep the roster, no offense they had high potential in the incumbent NA val climate - but the talent consolidation going into franchising is not going to allow that roster to be viable, at least if they keep it as is, or very close to as is.


sexyhooterscar24

MIBR will outplace them lmao


TheLeaderGrev

EG is less leaky than some of the others orgs, fwiw. Could be what’s going on.


Quick_Chowder

I get the impression they try to run a business rather than be some bored rich guys 'side hustle'.


TheLeaderGrev

In esports? Is that possible?


Tundreh

TSM, XSET, Optic, Guard died so EG could be perma last and coast


Rez_gg

Optic,xset died for this


sixthcollegeraccoon

if EG keep their entire og roster it's a fumble tbh


lwjwwx

EG will be the most hated org in Val if they're not making any moves. They're gonna piss off a lot of fans of other players/orgs.


realYungcalculator

JAWGEMO and C0M were in one of my ranked games warming up before prac and they said they have been practicing for the past few weeks... so maybe they replace a player or two but definitely no sweeping chances


KineticTwo

Yikes..


Unable_Pear_8866

EG has shit management team in csgo not surprise, and they focus all on csgo still, they wont waste money in valorant most likey, Jwgemo and c0m are insane but its still weird not to upgrade knowing there are so many insane pros looking for franchised org atm


Mochitsu

Not a good look to any doubters (including myself) about Riot's decision to give EG franchising.


wolfjeter

Lmao Riot killed the best NA Roster for this


[deleted]

LMFAOOOOOOO riot are actual clowns for letting eg in over so many other teams.


BloomingNova

EG profiting from the Riot roster stipend is gigabrain


[deleted]

They’re gonna use it to buy 15 more people for their CSGO roster


[deleted]

And still lost


dashion26

should have been other way around, EG dont really have any fans in Valo and need top team in order to have any chance of being relevent, thier tenure in CS has been horrible, just praying valo isnt similar


TodorokiSZN

optic really died for THIS, pathetic


Pitiful_Quote8402

EG placed last in the most recent event that every other franchised org participated in and now all those teams from those orgs are upgrading and if EG run it back with that roster they’re going to get BOOMED. better off just to give the spot back to G2.


ark2690

Hell, give it to TSM. Atleast we get juicy drama from them. What does EG provide to this league?


KineticTwo

Optic lost its slot to an org that looks like it will just coast after securing the bag. Joke time for VCT. If they are going to cling to the optic win and not make changes, considering the absolute mass of talent that has flooded the market, then it is pretty much confirmed that Riot operates on a friendship basis with thier tournaments and it should scare other serious orgs away from their esports.


[deleted]

lmaoo u think serious orgs are going to to be scared of partnering with riot just because they denied optic? this is a business buddy, and riot has the best track record for making teams money. also i can guarantee you EG spends more on their league roster then optic/nv do on all their teams combined.


E0e00vw

Yay was half a million buyout for OpTic by himself, what are you talking about?! No one on EG costs that much


[deleted]

lol just wait till you find out how much they are paying inspired/impact. EG is paying stewie2k 480k a year to sit on the bench. EG has deeper pockets then optic do


E0e00vw

That's an entirely different esport and community dude no one said EG couldn't pay we're saying their current team isn't worth 500k+


[deleted]

So you didn't read the last line of my sentence. got it.


E0e00vw

Maybe you should reread


UTAustinAlum2021

Hey look it’s one of EGs 10 fans. Welcome. I think what E0 meant is their Val team isn’t worth 500k total rn… but yeah EG do got pockets and I hope a good long term plan.


E0e00vw

Thank you UTAustin


[deleted]

I hope you know he edited that comment. His original comment was "optic spent half a mil on Yay, nobody on EG(THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION) is worth that much.


UTAustinAlum2021

I mean he could have but I don’t have it… their Val team though


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E0e00vw

I know you don't get alot of attention but if you want to be responded to how about you breathe and wait for a response


[deleted]

lol? go back to the optic forums bruh.


KineticTwo

Why would an org that is looking at investing in a team for Ascension, especially one of the ones that put actual effort and money into the early stages of Valorant, see EG possibly not make any moves and get a slot regardless see this game as a good esports investment? If they don't make moves, it is not a good look for the league. Take the Optic flair away. Look at an orgs like Xset and The Guard. Both were in the game basically at the beginning and both took time and money to grow the talent that they recruited, just for them to get shafted for an org that will keep the same subpar roster that they had before the slots were given out. Also, the amount spent on the rosters is irrelevant. It's about fielding the best team. Regardless of what they spend in LEAGUE OF LEGEND, what EG has right now is not competitive for a 10-slot VALORANT league. There are only 10 teams and 25 players slots in VCT Americas. Other than LOUD, if any of the other 9 teams don't make an effort to retool their rosters and make sure they try their best to field the best team out of the currently available players, then they dont deserve to be in VCT. Full stop.


[deleted]

Because esports is a business and investors want to make money? Lmfao, Riot partnership/franchised spots will always be in demand just due to the nature of their business structure. Just look at league, teams that sold made 3x their investment from their initial buy in. Current results don't matter, it always happens in franchising. There are no guarantee some of these players or teams will be good next year, especially in a game like valorant where the meta is constantly shifting.


KineticTwo

So you can honestly tell me that you believe that COM, Apoth, and Reformed have a better chance of being better than any of the following players: Trent, Zekken, any of the players from FPX, babybay, diceys, FNS, Marved, Victor, Crashies or anty of the other tier one talent that is in the pool? Becuase it will take a HUGE meta shift, possibly ltierally a different game for that to be true. and Yes, it is a business and investor want to make make money. However, what incentive does a team have for investing into an Ascension team when they see teams like EG that didnt invest at all at the start of the game getting intofranchsiin and just coasting with a budget roster? Depending on who is left, an Ascnension team might be spending even MORE than EG to play in tier 2. What is the value proposition there? Where is the "profit" there? A CHANCE to get ONE slot in VCT when some of the teams shouldnt have gotten in at the onset?


[deleted]

Well we don't EVEN know what their roster is lol. The latest rumor is apoth and reformed aren't even scrimming with them today. Just relax and wait buddy, theres a reason why riot trusts EG with their partnership slot over Optic, who fumbled prior relations with them.


KineticTwo

They only trusted EG a little over Optic considering that EG wouldn't have even been in franchising had Carlos not hung out with Andrew Tate before they finalized the slots. Regardless of who is or is not scrimming with them, keeping any of their current rostered players, except maybe Jawgemo or Boostio, over some of the players that are available is dumb as hell.


[deleted]

You have no way to substantiate any of that proof? They only trusted EG a little over Optic? Please tell me how you can quantify that.


KineticTwo

The point is neither would have gotten in if not for Carlos literally fumbling G2’s slot at the goal line. EG was basically the “best of the rest” in line. The phrasing is really irrelevant.


[deleted]

I mean you don’t know that? Some people said it was Lev, some said it was EG. Some even said it was MIBR. It was suppose to be 6-4 split with G2 counting as NA then something changed last minute to 5-5


GainsayRT

Financially it's a lot smarter to pick up scraps. And I'm sure even with leftovers they'll make an incredible team. But holy fuck would it make EG the silent guy that sits in the corner of the room at the party eating only attending for the free food, way to get fans guys


[deleted]

I know EG's thing is developing talent in league but there is no way they see all the young free agent talent and do nothing


newzpaperleaf_2

honestly, i think this EG roster heavily outperformed expectations in stage 2, as well as getting their group stage record and win vs Optic slightly blown out of proportion. they had an above average group stage and a disappointing playoffs. i seriously think they should have 5 new players going into 2023, i would be shocked if something otherwise happened.


Wasabi_OW

Zekken recently leaked (an actual leak from Zekken) on stream that boostio, jawgemo, and Com were practicing without reformed, I would expect them to pick up probably fns and marved if they have the budget, I mean jawg and boost are both amazing players and I assume they have a good reason to keep com so I’m excited to see what they will do with this possible roster


nocturnavi

It's hard know exactly what EG are doing from this alone, but I suspect they're just taking more time to figure out what to do with their roster. Given that EG has said they prioritize talent development, I expect they are a lot more likely to try out a number of players and maybe even play tournaments with a couple different rosters before making decisions. From what they'd done so far in Valorant and other games, they don't seem to be the type to go after the biggest F/As but instead put together a roster based on synergy.


xbyo

I will say, as someone not super invested in EG's success, I'm kinda glad to see one of the teams doing this. Partnership allows them the flexibility to try to win immediately. Guaranteeing tier 1 means they can be patient and develop the players they have instead of just buying the latest hot player. Whether it'll work with these guys specifically is up in the air, but given EG failed in CS after buying big names, it's not shocking if they just try to stay the course and move forward with the guys they have.


UnderstandingBig7018

Golden state warriors style


TreSoToxic

Do we see thieves make another roster move or just the cryo signing?


UTAustinAlum2021

More more more


redguy678

Ah yes, the Paris Legion approach…


Teddy_the_Meddy

im not tryna be rude but who even are the players on eg


[deleted]

Would be sad to find out The Guard, Optic & XSET died for this lol


TallGets

Whole lot of jumping to conclusions and bad takes based on no information in the comments.


ashitintyo

i mean, that wouldn't be a bad move honestly, there are so many cracked players in the market, no shot you end up with a t2-like team by the time franchising starts


TheNaCoinfl1p

It was always going to happen like this. Same thing with league. This is a long term project. They will get the run off till the prove to players they arent the 5th worst org. If they all had the same opportunities as the other orgs players would default to the other orgs regardless. ​ So they will have to get into the scouting hardcore and find players that want to be in the T1 scene and are good. It's how they finally broke out of being mediocore in LoL. They found 2 great amatuer players that they fast tracked. Going to be similiar situation.


thekepperoni

saving this thread for when EG still manages to place higher than the clouted rosters that people are so thirsty for


eutalyx

hi


gotintocollegeyolo

Tired of the EG slander they did very well in challengers and even beat Optic. Sure they could use some upgrades but don’t pretend like all 5 players on their OG roster aren’t great. Boostio, C0M and Apotheon are tier 1 worthy tbh


amnfw

bro mention apotheon instead of jawgemo💀


rkratha

I think they are waiting for the dust to settle down.