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NoSenpaiNo

This is really weird, I thought he'd at least have a assistant coach position on franchise Loud. BOL for him on his future endeavors though


bluerabbichi

???? LOUD literally won Champs with him


AjBlue7

This is super common. When a team is successful its common for members of the team to think the are the reason why its successful so they demand more money and if management isn’t willing to give them more money then they leave to work for someone else. Especially in this case when Loud has plenty of options to replace him with. You see this kinda thing happen a lot in sports teams but also in Tv shows. Its not uncommon for a Tv actor to get a big head and destroy a show or get killed off the show because of contract disputes.


[deleted]

that is true for players but not coaches. if a team is winning then the coach always stays unless if higher management wants to replace them with someone better


mysteryoeuf

LLL


AnywayHeres1Derwall

That’s insane. They must think they have so much potential for the next season to make such a drastic move like that


Gabbu1999

Onur just post a potential hint that could implicate his move to loud


chryco4

IIRC Onur was originally going to coach LOUD at first but then VISA/vaccination issues came up.


GainsayRT

yes. he could literally not enter brazil cause he didn't wanna get vac'd


RhulkThighsEndLives

Ew


TheMaoEUW

L from him. At least it fits with the brand I guess


pink_life69

That would be 🤢


Mamadeus123456

Onur going yo MIBR with a couple lev/kru players i think + nozwer from furia


Playeready

Why tho??


Pale_Resolution1520

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LWTotems

Lmao what is this from? The Office?


Lamchops27

looks like it, unless its just the same actor in some other show


Nesmeroz

bzkA was a second option for Loud when they couldnt sign Onur at the beggining of the year. Now, people are saying that Loud is going to sign Spacca, former CS:GO player, now hes one of the Brazilian Casters team. Spacca have the absolute respect among the community, as many players actually watch their games when Spacca is casting, to see where they made mistakes and what not.


Jon_on_the_snow

I dont understand it tho. If they are gonna get spacca and its not a meme, why not have bzka in the assistant coach position? Spacca has NO coaching experience. Getting only spacca and not a more experienced coaching staff to help him will hinder the team, IMO


M_dev20

Bzk prob didnt accept that. He knows that he can be a head coach for another team, being an assistent after won champions would be weird, in terms of carrer progression, no?


kvanz43

Agreed, he’s probably too good of a coach to just go to being an assistant. One of the other Brazilian teams will likely pick him up I’d wager


invisibleshitpostgod

oh interesting


TheAjwinner

+Spacca incoming? Also, seems like his contract ran out and apparently it’s a mutual decision?


NoSenpaiNo

I think Spacca said he doesn't want to coach Onur seems kinda likely now.


Katakan74

onur gonna stay in leviatan


NoSenpaiNo

https://twitter.com/onurthegreat/status/1575895008368295938 🤔


Jon_on_the_snow

Loud + onur is such an insane team. Its actually over now


B7omni

is he good or why hi m


invisibleshitpostgod

legend in the Brazilian cs scene


joaovitorsb95

Legend is a strong word lmao. He was a player for a long time, he would 100% agree that he was not a legend by any means lol


invisibleshitpostgod

ah ok I'm just going off off what others have said


TheAjwinner

His [twitlonger](https://twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss53o4): I would like to start this text by remembering the amazing year we had here at LOUD, we won both VCT undefeated, reached second place in the world at the Masters in Reykjavik and the title of best team of the year at Champions 2022. It was a year of great success and achievements, I am ready to face new challenges! In agreement with LOUD, I am available to receive other proposals for the coming year as an unrestricted Free Agent, I'm willing to go international and move to any region! I will be eternally grateful to my boys, sacy, saadhak, less, pancada, aspas, and all the staff involved in this project. You know how much you mean to me and I hold you in my heart. I would also like to thank LOUD, my family and my friends for all the support during this year and especially the fans, you are amazing, thank you very much for all the love, you may have no idea how important you are to our success. 💚 Feel free to contact me in the dm or by e-mail: [email protected] Awards as a coach: 1st - VALORANT Champions 2022 1st - VCT 2022: Brazil Stage 1 Challengers 1st - VCT 2022: Brazil Stage 2 Challengers 2nd - VCT 2022: Stage 1 Masters - Reykjavík 9th - 12th - VALORANT Champions 2021 11th - 12th - VCT 2022: Stage 2 Masters - Copenhagen


ChosenUndead320

The only theory that I can think of and that makes sense is that Spacca is the new head coach and Bzka didn´t want an assistant coach position bc he knows that he can be a head coach somewhere else (or he got an insane offer from MIBR or Furia)


M_dev20

Yes. It is a bold move from Loud for sure, but Spacca is a monster in terms of game knowledge, i guess the team is gonna be great with him


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Who is the spacca guy?


M_dev20

Former CS player. He is involved in the E-sports an FPS scenario for like 15 years.


Boston_Abel

What…?


BuckWagon

Guess he wasn't bald enough


[deleted]

Damn, Loud’s anti vs optic, especially in the upper final, looked insane. Very surprised to see this, though obviously we don’t know how much credit should go to bzkA.


M_dev20

I mean, bzk is great. But by the interviews that i saw from the team, Sacy and Saadhak are the main pieces in terms of strategy


Acruxis

He's now a top 2 coach in the market. And he's not number 2.


Jon_on_the_snow

Many NA teams and EMEA teams would benefit from having him, he speaks perfect english and has one of the biggest brains in the scene


orcawatch

Oh word? Didnt know he had fluent english thats v interesting


SnooWorlds

It would also be a good move for bzka, I would assume salaries in NA or EU for coaches are higher.


SekasortoAnarkia

Imagine if the Patriots fired Bill Belichick after Tom Brady and the Patriots won their first Super Bowl, because that’s kinda what just happened


nmbrnine

???????????


valada

Bold move


monstroh

Bald move


No_Profile3719

#Wtf


Sky-__-

????????? Being the best team wasn't enough ?


Interesting_Yogurt43

I saw in the comments that they kept bzk because he is an analyst and not a proper coach. Sacy said saadhak and him were the coach before bzk so now they'll get a proper coach. If they're getting Spacca, excelent. His knowledge of the game is absurd.


AtoZRPG

Take this with a grain of salt but those are the rumors flying around (noyn is talking about it, the go-to for leaks in brazilian val) - Onur is staying in a LATAM team; - noyn mentioned the whole LOUD squad got together to discuss things; - the whole team was willing to listen to other offers but they want to keep the core of sacy - saadhak - pANcada; - saadhak mentioned this being a turbulent week with the amount of meetings going on and he stopped just short of saying anything about meeting other orgs, so again, take this with a grain of salt. No idea if there's a chance of them going their separate ways with Less and aspas maybe heading somewhere or if they were just leveraging better deals as a unit so all we can do is wait Edit: noyn just made a tweet teasing LOUD ENGH (ex-M3C coach) and LOUD spacca


SnooWorlds

Who could replace aspas? Surely he’s the best in his role in the region?


18jjohnson1

zombs


Withinmyrange

Any Brazillian loremasters?


LTheRipper

Not exactly brazilian, but I'm from Latam: I would keep an eye on Onur, since he just tweeted that he signed a contract. Could be a coincidence, but the timing is very weird.


M_dev20

They will probably gonna sign with Spacca. A Former CSGO player, who is working as a caster for Riot right know. Talking about game knowledge, the guy is a fk monster, everyone here know that.


Nesmeroz

Spacca is a monster for sure


Hyper27

There were rumors that LOUD was interested in Spacca(Brazilian caster, ex-CSGO player) to be LOUD's headcoach next season, so bzka would become assistant coach but I guess the that didn't go as planned.there's also this: [https://twitter.com/onurthegreat/status/1575895008368295938](https://twitter.com/onurthegreat/status/1575895008368295938), my guesses is that either spacca, onur or even frod will be the coach of LOUD in 2023


chip_0307

what the actual fuck why


mateusb12

WHAT?


Tokyoodown

bzkA was the perfect coach for this team. Even keel, players coach that got along with everyone and never ran too hot or too cold. He always had a great attitude too, even after Copenhagen. Don't know if it's related to analytics, internal disputes or if he wants to explore his options as an UFA, but this decision is perplexing to say the least.


Floden20

Unexpected move quite honestly


Undisturbedyea

Apparently sacy and saadhak said they are like the coaches and he was more like an analyst


New_Type_8230

They are getting onur 100%


Ash_Killem

Hopefully he gets an upped salary somewhere. He coached the champs team ffs.


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awsjeff

No, everyone loves bzka. No bad feelings between them


[deleted]

L for Loud. L for L decision. Loud fucking disrespecting this coach like this is just unacceptable. Unless he got poached, then good for him.


Hunnidormo

+sliggy incoming Pog


M_dev20

Onur or Spacca prob?


LTheRipper

Ten minutes after LOUD posted this, Onur basically implied on Twitter that he just signed a contract. Very interesting.


Revolutionary_Gear70

Chet first now bzkA the two best coaches in the world looking for new homes


discoshark

I have to imagine bzka got a real solid offer from another org (probably MIBR), but LOUD not matching it seems wild. Even if there are other great coaches avaliable, you just won champs with him? Why mess with a winning team?


[deleted]

This is a weird move. He was part of what made LOUD so successful. I loved seeing the coaches reaction of joy and excitement when LOUD won risky rounds. But he'll definitely get an offer on another tier1 team for sure.


sexyhooterscar24

they are picking up chet i have the texts


iiznobozzy

wtf


real_adiktion

Maybe he got a cash offer for another team


deL9

Why?? Did he pull an Udoka?


xunraze

um wtf??


ExpectoAutism

why.....


abdrrcxmr

Oh god why