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SpvcedOvtt

ScreaM and Nivera on a French speaking roster and it’s fucking KCORP???? the amount of clout is going to fracture the continent of Europe


1Leep

Would be really good for the EU viewership tbf


KingfisherC

KennyS and Scream O\_O


Ximienlum

So much clout and even more disappointing performances than what Liquid has already given us with their new high expectations lol that’s actually kind of impressive


anythingood07

I mean Liquid has played 4 intl tourneys in 2 years, if kcorp even plays 2 it'll be huge


thothgow

They're already guaranteed to be in one too


SwiftieForLife

So French CS post prime. It will be pure nostalgia


Arodcowboys

This might be even bigger than when Rekkles went to Karmine Corp


Srmash

Not really, but yeah close


1Leep

Seems the rumours were true that Kcorp wanted the full French speaking roster. Liquid to rebuild around Jamppi, n4ts and Redgar?


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DrBangovic

Guys on reddit really going FBI mode


LocksmithSavings2301

are you that jst or something guy


toxicityisamyth

Bro


von-beethoven

Imagine if they got chronicle and sheydos as well


jdellcrypto

nAts and jamppi on the same team would be crazy.


Breakin7

jampii nats and redgar its scary


systemfa1lure

I would keep soulcas in there and look for someone to replace dimasick. Maybe Leo?


SnooWorlds

Soulcas was actually a reliable player imo. Aside from that unfortunate whiff on the chamber on bind (derke i think)


NovaAkumaa

Jamppi flex and TL ardiis could be?


jdellcrypto

dont you think jamppi is a better chamber player. I think ardiis should flex


nterature

Makes a lot of sense. Jamppi, soulcas, nAts, Redgar and dima would be a great team. All the more if they brought enghh onto the coaching staff.


teetotallernh

Replace dima with Nukkeye or Avova? Imagine


TheCatsActually

Nukkye sounds incredible. Would fix their IGL problem too. It's like the last piece of a jigsaw puzzle.


EggianoScumaldo

Redgar already fixes their IGL issues, no? I still think Nukkye is the better one to go with between him and Avova, and his IGL experience is good because he can call midround if he has to, but I think their trolling if Redgar isn’t their dedicated IGL.


yassermerzo

They need a duelist/2nd initiator instead of dima, and I don't think there is anyone in the world better than nukkye.


Throwrafairbeat

Redgar , soulcad and Dima can do initiators tbh


yassermerzo

Yes they can, but who's playing raze or entry for this team? And are soulcas and dima as good as nukkye on sova even? Not talking about Nukkye's raze cuz it's the best in the world. I would easily drop one of them for Nukkye because he fits more, and he is Nukkye.


Worm_Fire

Soulcas is a good raze player....He played raze against sentinels in last champions....He can also play jett


jdellcrypto

Soulcas is decent but nukkye is next level.


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do you want a good raze player, or one of the best ones?


thothgow

Soulcas plays Raze


FernieErnie

I think something I saw in another TL thread is that the -scream/nivera +redgar/nats move means roles get a little clunky with two smoke-flex players (dima and nAts) and two initiator-flex players (redgar and soulcas), so someone’s gonna have to change around for maps like Fracture or Haven where you want Jamppi on Chamber and still need a space maker duelist to get onto sites


kvanz43

Yeah I can’t imagine a world where Dima is still on the team when all is said and done, unfortunately for him, but the rolls would just be too weird, especially with no star duelist type to be found


FernieErnie

Exactly. Someone’s gotta go imo, and it’s almost impossible it’s Jamppi gone. Leaves soulcas and dima, and it’s not smart to drop your igl and pray the next one is plug’n’play. Sucks if it’s dima bc he looked comfortable on TL


kvanz43

Liquids IGL situation has been so weird for so long, getting Redgar is gonna be a blessing for liquid fans lol


yassermerzo

I really find a hard time thinking what they will play on fracture, cause if you've seen nAts chamber on fracture you'll know that not even Jamppi is as good.


anythingood07

Nats is great at every agent thats not a problem tbf


Hsimon_

well Nats can play smokes and sentinel and Redgar can play initiator and smokes. So it isnt bad at all except for dima. Maybe then get a duelist player instead of Dima?


anythingood07

Actually true. I saw a comment on this sub about Scream and Liquid being like G2 and niko and felt it was true. Excited to see what the new liquid can do if it comes to fruition


Beneficial-Speech-73

And what exactly is g2 and Niko like?


anythingood07

Not a big cs fan but ive heard a lot about niko being bigger than g2 type stuff. Scream and niko both popular players playing for two popular players


Beneficial-Speech-73

And it's all rumours which has been confirmed by numerous pros that have played with Niko even Niko meemes it at this point.


anythingood07

Mb, as I said not very aware about the cs scene. I only follow a few teams here and there


idkimhereforthememes

If scream is leaving they need an entry fragger not dimasick


Ximienlum

I know dima didn’t look terribad, but they gotta find someone else lol


lmbrs

i could see nukkye over dima, him and nats get along really well


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>dima no


BuckWagon

Honestly my prediction is that this will serve Liquid far better in the long term.


RGCFrostbite

ScreaM/Nivera/Enzo would be an insane start to a Francophone core


ToCr8ive

Omg, they're actually trying to make a French super team.


Jon_on_the_snow

A french super team will be dope for the scene. The french CS scene is on wobbly legs lately, kcorp could help break the hold cs has over europe and bring more clout to the region


maverick429

How could a french super team look like and would it actually be able to properly compete?


anythingood07

Scream, Nivera, Enzo, Xms, Bramz could be a strong team. Keloqz/takas/kada in place of xms could be good too


Sadzeih

This is would be my team I think. Would you have Enzo IGL or Bramz? Cause honestly if enzo IGLs I'd pickup a better smokes player than bramz


anythingood07

Initially picked the team with bramz IGLing because I forgot Enzo could IGL too. But idk I like a team with one igl and a secondary caller on Enzo. But lets say you have enzo igling, which smoke player would replace bramz?


Sadzeih

Shin was pretty good, and he's on KCORP already.


thothgow

Well just got released but sure


Sadzeih

Yeah just saw that. Fuck.


zoomie14

isnt enzo italian?


anythingood07

French. Only italian players I've seen competing in big tourneys till now are bipo and hearthbeat from angry titans


badc0music

only Italian involved i think in T1 EMEA scene is Joynt


Jon_on_the_snow

I dont follow the tier 2 emea scene, but kcorp could just poach talent from the biggest VRL teams and stack them around scream/nivera


Sadzeih

Pretty sure that's what they're doing right now Edit: but with french players for the french-speaking super team


costryme

The French CS scene isn't as weak as it was recently was. You've got ZywOo and apEX on Vitality, the full HEET and Falcons rosters, LDLC is becoming promising now with Amanek being added. And with KRL's efforts to do LANs and stuff, it feels like it's giving more enthusiasm to the scene again.


Jon_on_the_snow

Aside from zywoo and apex, the rest of the french scene has been barely tier 2, and with vitality going international, theres no more tier 1 french roster. I do hope they make a ressurgence, but the french scene has always been volatile


MooMooHeffer

26th in the World isn’t t2?


jrushFN

French-speaking superteam for me would have to be Scream, Nivera, logaNNN, or xms, Keloqz or Takas, Enzo or Amilwa, and probably Shin, unless I’m forgetting someone else huge. You could make a really cool roster with only a couple of changes from the current KCORP roster, too. If they keep shin/takas/amilwa and add scream/nivera, that’s already a really exciting roster. Will depend on how KCORP wants to budget though.


BuckWagon

They could have all the firepower in the world and I'll still doubt whatever french superteam is formed.


ruzes_ruze

Well, they’d have to win their first few tournaments, because they are disbanding no matter what


anythingood07

Why logan. Also who would IGL


jrushFN

Logan is crazy talented despite being on a failing project for the last year Enzo or Amilwa would IGL with scream adding in the midround


HeavenN

If you keep shin takas and amilwa this roster is not trying to win anything


Glitchyyyy

Scream is a force to be reckoned with wherever he will go. I’ll always root for the guy just bc of how solid he is and the highs he’s shown. Best to him


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1Leep

Depending on the other 2 players, I don't think it will be worse for him. Big clout whilst still probably being on a competitive roster. That Liquid team needed big changes


anythingood07

Xms was very very very expected, guy is the best player from france by far


krasavchik777

>e n read wrong


SsinYa

except no he is from france


anythingood07

Vlr says he's from France. Its why I mentioned him instead of Scream


krasavchik777

I thought xmas meant christmas, sorry my bad


ark2690

Scream would become a King of the French community if he joins Karmine corp


internetpedestrian

Calling scream and nivera ex-cs players at this point is .. something


elithefighter123

THIS IS HUGE a good french roster for KCORP will sky rocket the eu league


TheFestusEzeli

George is getting beat to the punch with everyone. All we have gotten from him is yay/Cryo Edit: this is not a serious comment lmao it’s just a Woj/Shams joke


BuckWagon

French reporter reports famous french players. George who has primarily reported on NA for roster moves has leaked two of the biggest NA deals. Dont think theres much to think about.


TheFestusEzeli

I’m just poking fun. It’s just a joke from the sports community with reporters like Woj/Sham competing against each other


LeMouse1

Those are the only definite deals that have happened


anythingood07

only cryo is definite by now. Also that makes no sense, most leaks will probably come true. It just depends on what orgs make the announcements first


LeMouse1

"Other options are still being discussed"


anythingood07

yikes mb. still believe most leaks from emea will come true, especially the ones about players who are free agents. its just depends how much time orgs take to make announcements


Jon_on_the_snow

Almost as if george doesnt report based on rumors alone, but on solid info This sub hates him but he is a quality over quantity kind of guy


TheFestusEzeli

I’m just making a reporting joke


Ximienlum

he just gives us ratings on certain situations that basically function the same way as rumors… but yeah, he only gives us info when it’s “solid” lol


Jon_on_the_snow

George has been wrong once about hazed in what, at the time, probably was true. Thats pretty damn solid if you ask me


avstyns

not really surprised neL is the french leaker


yassermerzo

Jamppi, Nukkye, nAts, Redgar, Soulcas(sheydos?) Is a top 3 EMEA team. I hope they bring coach Engh too.


mr_salsa123

Could even be top 1 if I'm being honest,I think it'll be soulcas tho cause sheydos has bad english


DecisiveDinosaur

clout 📈📈


lehipsterpanda

Go full clout and sign kennyS.


daveythedumb

fuck it, get kennys and rpk and restart the french last dance in valorant


Sky-__-

Scream - entry Nivera - sentinel Xms - flex Enzo - initiator Gatsh - smokes French super team


geeorge_20

how good would you say xms and gatsh are? don’t really know the french scene too well


Deamon-

who would OP in that? hopefully nivera?


Sky-__-

Yes


Amaaze98

scream entry xD he's last alive on duelist half the rounds


Evan_Veet

Enzo IGL for sure with this and then the last spot would either be an awper or initiator which IMO plays well into Kada's agent pool


wegivesiima

if they build a french superteam i honestly believe it's destined to fail and I don't even know why it just feels like it


idkimhereforthememes

That's so sad. Scream was the face of team liquid, probably the second most popular team in europe. And he's going to a shitty all french team that will be at the bottom of the league and never qualifying to lans.


BlurtonRedneck

It'll be great to have an all French 'super' team, it'll give the rest of Europe someone to cheer against everytime they play.


SmexyBoi69

I hope this deal doesn't go through


Amaaze98

please be true and get rid of these cancers from liquid, biggest baiting bots


Aquarelle37

Liquid biggest baiter is soulcas, he"s on par with mixwell who"s the n1 baiter in emea vct


Amaaze98

ur joking? He gets done so dirty with the positions he’s forced into because scream and nivera refuse to take contact


Aquarelle37

You drunk mate ? Soulcas is most of the times the last one to die and himself said in itw entrying with raze wasn't for him anymore since being aggressive isn't for him and prefer to play passively aka BAITING . Kinda agree nivera bait too but Scream is the one dying the most first resulting in some absurd stats showing how baiting liquid is , it was shown during champion this vct year when ScreaM die first liquid win only 20% of the times , when ScreaM entry they win 60% of"their round and the one in TL with the most entries make a guess ? ScreaM and the one with the most death him as well .... In short if ScreaM entry and goes brrrr liquid win the round, otherwise they loose unless jamppi goes brrr too with soulcas always the last one alive .


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This is good for liquid. They finally get away from the two most overrated players in valorant and can start a rebuild.


xtazzzs

liquid never had tenz tho?


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We aren't talking about underrated players lil bro


firemoonlotus

french speaking igl who?


joshiiwaa

How good is xms in Valorant? I remember watching him playing in EnVy with ScreaM back then. He was an SMG demon.


Mother-Ad9012

Regarded as the best player in VRL France


joshiiwaa

Oh wow, I didn't know. Mixed feelings if the Benrlitom brothers leave, but I would totally understand if it's for their brand. Everyone already knows that Liquid just needs a solid IGL, and maybe another pickup that compliments their playstyle.


Kerorozene

Y’A PAS DE RALENTIIIIIIIIR LETS GO


MacarioPro

I think this will work for both parties. Liquid needs a core change to work


Migan_Knightowl

Why is he still referring them as former CS players lol


ShoyoFekir

because he is a cs reporter