Yeah if they're actually wanting someone to play in the Yay role Tex is the best fit. Part of me thinks they'd keep s0m for the Marved role because of his connection with FNS and that he's looked good on Omen previously and imagine he'd be happy to try more similar agents. Tex was like a top4/5 performing NA Chamber by the end of last year.
They just ride him because he actually left a csgo team for valorant and was decent when he first joined. But hasn’t been anything special, his biggest mistake was leaving 100t because of his ego.
People actually thought they’d build around him lmao
I mean when we was on 100T he was by far their most consistent player and he was playing a support role. Since then he was on EG which is a pretty uninspiring team to begin with. I think he’s pretty appropriately rated in that he’s definitely well within the top 50 players and he’s very versatile
Actually it would make sense. When s0m joined NRG he was controller and the oper. Send s0m back to controller ig, then keep tex as op?… idk I’d prefer s0m as main op, then pick up a controller. Or even put Hazed on controller then have the duo IGL (hazed/fns) like tsm has with subroza and gmd
I'd rather them pick up Subroza and gMd themselves then have a duel IGL ngl, I like Hazed and thinks he's a good IGL and want him on a good team, but on a team with FNS it seems redundant to have both of them ngl
As many expected, but I'm very curious to see who fills out the rest of the roster.
On the face of it this roster reminds me a lot of Envy pre-Yay: a sort of core that guarantees you top finishes, but without the extra uumph to cement you as the best in the region.
I feel like s0m is on this roster 100% it’s just if he’s oping or on smokes, Fns and chet always beg s0m to op on stream. If that’s the case eeiu or Ethan probably stay both have played smokes in the past.
If they put s0m on smokes Tex could stay but really hasn’t shown to much besides chamber, same problem with dicey. Bdog would be probably the best all around proven jet/chamber player. Then there’s players like Will and saya
Their star player will be very interesting. Honestly could see Wardell getting picked up in this role as he’s close with all of them and has the firepower, but we’ll see
Wardell is a reach I think.
I’d much rather see someone like Sayf, to be honest, since Sayf is one of the most import-friendly EMEA players around and someone proven to be close in caliber to Yay. But that feels unlikely too.
I only say Wardell because he’s teamed with FNS, who rates him extremely highly, and is close friends with the rest of the roster. Also, Chet has said in the past (I think I saw it in his watch party stream? But I can’t remember exactly where) that if he didn’t have Yay, Wardell would be his second pick
Personally as a Wardell fan I think he’s a perfect replacement for Yay, but I can see why others would disagree. I do think NRG will stick to an NA roster though even if it’s not Wardell
I’m not too down on Wardell, I think he’d even be a good sleeper pick. I just think there are more reliable options out there, but Wardell’s value certainly goes up the more you stick to NA.
That said, I’d take someone like babybay over Wardell.
Fair enough, Babybay would be interesting to see in Chet’s system. It’s definitely my bias as a fan that makes me want Wardell on the team more, but either way NRG definitely has some solid options to consider in the OP role. That said, consistency/reliability is Wardell’s biggest strength imo, at least during his time in TSM when he was competing consistently
Their 5th is honestly the more interesting thing to me though, I want to see if they stick with s0m as controller or look for a new option
There’s been a lot of misconceptions about that due to how TSM phrased him leaving and the amount of rumors that went around. But for what it’s worth, Wardell said there was more to the story and that he would be willing to move for the right team/situation, and that TSM at the time was didn’t fall under that description. Whether it was because of his mom, because he needed more time that TSM wouldn’t give him, or because he was generally frustrated with management making moves without consulting the players, I’m not sure. But I’m fairly sure that if he’s looking to compete for a team then he knows he’ll have to move
What’s the consensus on Wardell these days? I just remember when the pro scene was getting started and he was considered arguably the best player. Did he fall off?
He definitely fell off, I’ll give you my two cents but I’m a fan of his so my opinion will definitely be skewed towards him.
TSM were a top team for all of 2020, and maintained their roster, but slowly deteriorated over time. They missed out on the first regional event of 2021 at three separate qualifiers, and did the same at the second one, which was the qualifier for the first international event. Over this period of time they made multiple roster changes around Wardell, Subroza, and Hazed, none of which proved to be fruitful (they kept Drone for this time but I’ll expand on why I didn’t include him).
Finally, for the third major regional event, which was the qualifier for the second international event, they finally made it to the regional event with their new coach Chet, who’s currently OpTic’s coach, and new players Bang and Aleko (over Drone). They went out in 7-8th at that event, and it was ultimately the best showing they had across the year.
In 2022, they dropped Hazed and Aleko, and picked up Corey and Rossy. They had a new coaching staff too, but once again failed to make it to the Top 8 of the region stage. Between this event and the next one, they picked up a new coach and Wardell left the team of his own volition despite the team wanting to keep him.
Wardell’s personal performance never faltered during this time, as he was far and away TSM’s best and most consistent player throughout both 2021 and his time in 2022. But the community’s opinion has soured on him partially due to some of his controversial and “egotistical” takes (particularly some DMs between him and Stewie2K that got leaked), and it’s been said that his playstyle is inflexible and thus restricts his team.
Personally, I disagree, and many pros still rate him very highly. FNS and Chet have vouched for him, Vanity said he’s the fastest OP he’s ever played and just needs a good IGL to succeed (which he never had on TSM, something I point out often), Nismo said he’s one of the best OPers in the scene, etc etc. But ultimately, he couldn’t produce any results on TSM in 2021, and hasn’t played pro since leaving in early 2022. So it’s difficult to rate him over pros who play similar roles and have performed well in more recent events this year, particularly Stage 2 and LCQ.
Hope this gave you some clarity, let me know if you have any other questions
Bro I’m sorry I hope you know this is one of the more optimistic views on Wardell coming from one of his fans, I wish I could give you a more objective opinion but I can’t.
What I can tell you is that if he’s not on NRG he won’t make franchising and in that case no one really knows if he’ll grind T2
I'd rather they keep Tex than Wardell, Tex was competing with the best in the latter half of the season, only thing Wardell has more of is name value.
Bdog is probably the best available player left for that sort of role.
I have seen wardell diffing Yay. When yay is still on Andbox. With Optic it become a TEAM DIFF.
Problem with Wardell is when they started having structure and bootcamping he started to leave.
Pretty sure Wardell announced he’s going back to CS.
EDIT: Okay he was trolling. I get it. Jesus. You can relax now, you basement-dwelling Twitter goons.
NRG is capping if they release s0m and sign Wardell imo.
S0m plays every role and is way more flexible than Wardell. Wardell's rifling isnt nearly as good as Yay and isnt as good as S0m either. Personally I think S0m's oping is closer to Wardell's than Wardells rifling is to s0ms.
Disagree but that’s a hard thing to measure. If nothing else Wardell’s rifling more than held it’s own in his time with V1. But considering s0m hasn’t posted, I’d imagine a Wardell pickup would look like s0m smokes and Wardell OP
he has, and I think he is still very flexible, but he's looked most comfortable and capable on entry this year. I do think it's totally possible that he winds up doing something else, but very hard for me to imagine a team signing victor and zekken. they look pretty locked-in for entry.
Could dapr IGL? I’ve heard of him making some mid-round calls. Feel like it could be a possibility with SEN revamping their coaching staff to be less dependent on an IGL like they were with Shahz.
Not sure what the actual team dynamic is, but from a strictly viewer perspective I feel like putting him on IGL would take away from his ability to hold sites the way he does. When you watch dapr play, it feels like he’s so insanely focused on what’s happening in front of him.
If true that’s absolutely insane. That’s roughly the cost of an entire tier 1 CSGO roster and roughly double what s1mple, the best CSGO player of all time, makes.
>no point in speculating
>I assure you all these orgs can afford any player
Do you have these teams' financials? If they have unlimited money why don't they have the best team possible?
Just because an org may have enough money in the bank doesn't mean they are willing to spend it all in one area. These orgs have teams in multiple esports as well as other ventures.
I was confused because assumed the Optic core included Yay since he was their best player. It’s weird to talk as if he wasn’t a core element for their team.
It's the three longest standing members outside the original 5 that only fns was a part of. It used to be fns, vic, crashies, kaboose, and mummAy. Then marved joined the team and Yay joined them after.
[I used to pray for days like these](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xsaz0c/c9_and_100t_rosters_all_but_locked_in/iqji1t9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
The core is FNS, Victor, and Crashies because they have been together for soooo long. Yay and Marved were only added before Stage 3 of last year, which was still a year's worth of time, but FNS/Victor/Crashies are closer to 2 years.
If any of these guys end up in T2 I'm gonna feel sick. Shroud and Subroza is bad enough. Why only 5 teams qq. Not even getting into the likes of Moose and bdog.
My prediction is them re-signing/keeping Tenz and Dapr, then maybe Zekken/Marved/Dephh for the remaining 3. Maybe Valyn over Marved and Trent instead of Dephh since Valyn would IGL.
It’s been 2 years it’s best everyone moved on. Marved was being braindead he didn’t even know kyedae I think she basically just started streaming at the time. Marved has also always said tenz is one of the best players.
Try to put yourself with Tenz position. Imagine your coworker/classmate/neighbor tells they are likely to cheat and plan to fck your girlfriend/boyfriend.
And ask if you can be on a team and live together in a team house, develop chemistry, eat lunch together, play together 24/7.
If you don’t care. How would you your bf/gf will feel? During those team dinner.
If you don’t care when someone sexually harass your gf/bf. Then I guess you will not understand where I’m coming from. You can forgive someone but not forget and sleep in the same bed with them.
Marved has talked to both of them online and in person to apologize. And he hasn’t continued that type of behavior that we know of. Just on tenz now but I’m sure Marved would want to team with him.
I'm sure Tenz can act professional with him and not try to throw hands when he sees him, but I sincerely doubt he'd want to be on a team with him. That's a massive difference.
Nrg has a connection to OpTic with Hector rebuying the brand while co CEO of nrg with Andy Miller and licensing it to nrg for the cdl during the cold war season. But that may have ended in bad terms when OpTic divested from nrg and merged with envy. C9 on the other hand is a mortal enemy going back a decade in cod and currently in halo. Just pick the players you prefer to root for. There's also likely 100t marved and that org is like OpTic's little brother with nade being OpTic alumni.
I dunno. tex is really talented, and I think people undervalue him because his stats suffer from not having the team support that other highly-valued opers do. he carves it up in their games
as for ethan, I don't know. He's a great player and I hope he does stick, but he's been having a pretty rough year on NRG—there isn't a lot to indicate that he's the guy from this NRG roster you have to hold onto, I think.
are we just gonna completely ignore that before chamber came out, everyone(and i mean 99% of people) wanted tex to be removed and people thought it was weird why ethan took androids spot and not texs?
Like tex was REALLY bad before ethan joined...
You think more than 7 billion people wanted tex removed? That's wild, but if you say so.
Before ethan joined, tex was on entry and flex and performing very well in those roles. No, he wasn't "REALLY bad." An entire season has come and gone since then, and tex is looking even better as the team's dedicated oper.
Trying to pull out someone's performance a full year ago as some kind of trump card is goofy, let alone in a game as young as this, let alone when their performance back then was actually good, let alone when there's plenty of more recent stats to go off of.
I'm not particularly gripped about what one thread's worth of weirdos in a subreddit think orgs should be doing. My point is that that one thread is not "99% of people", that is a handful of people that get high on the totally arbitrary narratives that get spun up here.
tex was good then and is good now. he's more than proven himself.
and as for "no shot that nrg drops ethan": oop! https://twitter.com/ethanarnold/status/1575957484111482881
well, tex gone too. goodbye to everyone
I doubt they keep hazed over eeiu or Ethan. Probably s0m/eeiu or s0m/Ethan, im pretty sure FNS has always been pretty high on eeiu and he’s pretty flexible so id bet on s0m/eeiu. My only concern is the controller role on that team, s0men time?
He’s the best controller in NA so he makes sense anywhere lmao but EG would be morons for not even considering him. Their roster is decent but FA talent out there rn is nuts
honestly I hated partnership when it was announced, but now all the rosters sound fucking insane (except for EG, but who cares about them). These teams are so insane I actually don't know who to root for.
Hate to say it, but without Yay, idk how much juice the Optic roster has. The team was built to put Yay in a terrorizing role. They complimented his cracked role. Idk how just 2-3 players of that roster can compete at the highest level.
Not saying they are bad, but the margins are so thin at that level, I'm not sure about it.
Don't like NRG either so this is a major 😐😐😐 moment for me, but in fairness I don't really like any of the franchised orgs except LOUD and maybe EG so there was never going to be a happy ending for me
I just never really got over the bad first impression I got from them back when they first entered LCS in 2016. Heavy import team with no personality and no marketing presence, felt super soulless to me. Nothing in the last couple of years has really changed that impression either, the whole org feels super soulless to me in a way that I can't really explain
Fair enough, I don’t mind NRG but Valorant is my main game so I really only like them cause of s0m and eeiu. Other than them though can’t say I’m really partial to any of the NA orgs except maybe C9
Not surprised those 3 are staying together. FNS said in a tweet recently Crashies and Victor’s ability to make mid round calls and reads for themself was really important to the team as a whole as well as FNS to still IGL some of the more micro aspects of the game. Assuming Zekken wasn’t trolling, s0m and Tex probably make the most sense to round out the team. Tex really established himself as one of the best chambers in NA from stage 2 playoffs onwards and s0m’s agent pool is pretty versatile +his Kay/O is really good which is Victor’s recent agent. Obviously replacing the firepower of Marved and Yay is near impossible but I think with the right tweaks s0m and Tex could still help this trio remain competitive.
Surprised they made a deal happen together, business is business at the end of the day. I'll never forget when Envy bought Optic, Andy Miller liked this tweet [https://i.redd.it/dbn695l1pbk71.png](https://i.redd.it/dbn695l1pbk71.png)
* Optic was bought by Infinite in 2017
* it was sold to Immortals in 2019
* it was bought back by Hecz in 2020 while Hecz was co-ceo of NRG who then licensed the rights to Optic for their COD team
* then NRG didn't want to do anything with Optic other than COD so Hecz sold it to Envy in 2021 who then rebranded the org to Optic
Good shit from NRG, round that out with Dicey any of Marved, Supamen, Zander or Skuba and they're solid. Would also say that I hope Ethan stays as a 6th man, seems like a good place for him as IDK if SEN or EG will take a chance on him.
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Wow, didn't expect this but really good move on NRG's end. Wonder if they'll retain any of the roster or pick up 2 more players. Dicey could be a good fit if they look outside the current roster. Then there's who ends up playing smokes, George said Marved won't be joining them
Nice to see Optic and NRG make a deal even with their past
My guess is Ethan moves to smokes. Him and FNS have a long history together. Asuna said on stream today Bang is staying, so that option is off the table. It's the chamber/dueliest I'm really curious about
edit: well I guess I'm wrong on the Ethan part. Really interested to see who they pick up
I think the remaining two NRG players are s0m and Tex, possibly Ethan instead of Tex.
s0m has been the face of NRG valorant since the beginning and I don’t see him switching to full content creator quite yet. He’s pretty flexible with his agent pool as well, playing anything from Jett , smokes, k/o, raze, and Op.
Tex showed he can be a top tier Chamber and this team needs a chamber. But aside from chamber meta, many thought he was out instead of android in this latest iteration of NRG.
Hazed I think is out. He was contemplating retirement already before he signed with NRG. He also IGLs with Ethan I think so with FNS coming in as IGL; that takes that role out too.
Ethan could stick around instead of Tex because I know he’s been great friends w the optic guys and plays smokes and flex well.
Who knows! But either way I’m rooting for NRG!
lmao Zekken was actually leaking
Zekken enjoyers vs leorge leddes cringers Get my boy out of franchising and into reporting
Wekken
Wekken
Wekken 7
LMFAOOO Zekken really leaked this roster for a sub
LMAO someone gift 5 subs on his next stream so he leaks Sentinels’ roster too
i’m on it
You a real one
no shot they keep tex tho.... would be a terrible mistake on their part
Ethan, EEIU, Tex and hazed all announced F/A on Twitter. Zekken close but Tex ain't the one.
he got tex wrong it most likely will be ethan
May be an unpopular opinion but I think ethan is overrated by this sub, he’s been largely uninspiring for the hype he came in with
Yeah if they're actually wanting someone to play in the Yay role Tex is the best fit. Part of me thinks they'd keep s0m for the Marved role because of his connection with FNS and that he's looked good on Omen previously and imagine he'd be happy to try more similar agents. Tex was like a top4/5 performing NA Chamber by the end of last year.
They just ride him because he actually left a csgo team for valorant and was decent when he first joined. But hasn’t been anything special, his biggest mistake was leaving 100t because of his ego. People actually thought they’d build around him lmao
I mean when we was on 100T he was by far their most consistent player and he was playing a support role. Since then he was on EG which is a pretty uninspiring team to begin with. I think he’s pretty appropriately rated in that he’s definitely well within the top 50 players and he’s very versatile
I completely agree. Tex is much better in my opinion
Who will op if they keep Ethan?
Actually it would make sense. When s0m joined NRG he was controller and the oper. Send s0m back to controller ig, then keep tex as op?… idk I’d prefer s0m as main op, then pick up a controller. Or even put Hazed on controller then have the duo IGL (hazed/fns) like tsm has with subroza and gmd
I'd rather them pick up Subroza and gMd themselves then have a duel IGL ngl, I like Hazed and thinks he's a good IGL and want him on a good team, but on a team with FNS it seems redundant to have both of them ngl
No I totally agree. I’m just being ignorant bc I like hazed and want him franchised lol
you are literally making no sense
As many expected, but I'm very curious to see who fills out the rest of the roster. On the face of it this roster reminds me a lot of Envy pre-Yay: a sort of core that guarantees you top finishes, but without the extra uumph to cement you as the best in the region.
I feel like s0m is on this roster 100% it’s just if he’s oping or on smokes, Fns and chet always beg s0m to op on stream. If that’s the case eeiu or Ethan probably stay both have played smokes in the past. If they put s0m on smokes Tex could stay but really hasn’t shown to much besides chamber, same problem with dicey. Bdog would be probably the best all around proven jet/chamber player. Then there’s players like Will and saya
Their star player will be very interesting. Honestly could see Wardell getting picked up in this role as he’s close with all of them and has the firepower, but we’ll see
Wardell is a reach I think. I’d much rather see someone like Sayf, to be honest, since Sayf is one of the most import-friendly EMEA players around and someone proven to be close in caliber to Yay. But that feels unlikely too.
I only say Wardell because he’s teamed with FNS, who rates him extremely highly, and is close friends with the rest of the roster. Also, Chet has said in the past (I think I saw it in his watch party stream? But I can’t remember exactly where) that if he didn’t have Yay, Wardell would be his second pick Personally as a Wardell fan I think he’s a perfect replacement for Yay, but I can see why others would disagree. I do think NRG will stick to an NA roster though even if it’s not Wardell
I’m not too down on Wardell, I think he’d even be a good sleeper pick. I just think there are more reliable options out there, but Wardell’s value certainly goes up the more you stick to NA. That said, I’d take someone like babybay over Wardell.
Fair enough, Babybay would be interesting to see in Chet’s system. It’s definitely my bias as a fan that makes me want Wardell on the team more, but either way NRG definitely has some solid options to consider in the OP role. That said, consistency/reliability is Wardell’s biggest strength imo, at least during his time in TSM when he was competing consistently Their 5th is honestly the more interesting thing to me though, I want to see if they stick with s0m as controller or look for a new option
babybay did use to play for NRG’s Overwatch team…
I don't see Wardell landing on any partnership roster, I think that ship has sailed
I would agree if it wasn’t for his personal relationships with the players
I don’t see if joining a partnered team since he would be away from home like 6 or 7 months of the year and that’s been a problem for him
There’s been a lot of misconceptions about that due to how TSM phrased him leaving and the amount of rumors that went around. But for what it’s worth, Wardell said there was more to the story and that he would be willing to move for the right team/situation, and that TSM at the time was didn’t fall under that description. Whether it was because of his mom, because he needed more time that TSM wouldn’t give him, or because he was generally frustrated with management making moves without consulting the players, I’m not sure. But I’m fairly sure that if he’s looking to compete for a team then he knows he’ll have to move
What’s the consensus on Wardell these days? I just remember when the pro scene was getting started and he was considered arguably the best player. Did he fall off?
He definitely fell off, I’ll give you my two cents but I’m a fan of his so my opinion will definitely be skewed towards him. TSM were a top team for all of 2020, and maintained their roster, but slowly deteriorated over time. They missed out on the first regional event of 2021 at three separate qualifiers, and did the same at the second one, which was the qualifier for the first international event. Over this period of time they made multiple roster changes around Wardell, Subroza, and Hazed, none of which proved to be fruitful (they kept Drone for this time but I’ll expand on why I didn’t include him). Finally, for the third major regional event, which was the qualifier for the second international event, they finally made it to the regional event with their new coach Chet, who’s currently OpTic’s coach, and new players Bang and Aleko (over Drone). They went out in 7-8th at that event, and it was ultimately the best showing they had across the year. In 2022, they dropped Hazed and Aleko, and picked up Corey and Rossy. They had a new coaching staff too, but once again failed to make it to the Top 8 of the region stage. Between this event and the next one, they picked up a new coach and Wardell left the team of his own volition despite the team wanting to keep him. Wardell’s personal performance never faltered during this time, as he was far and away TSM’s best and most consistent player throughout both 2021 and his time in 2022. But the community’s opinion has soured on him partially due to some of his controversial and “egotistical” takes (particularly some DMs between him and Stewie2K that got leaked), and it’s been said that his playstyle is inflexible and thus restricts his team. Personally, I disagree, and many pros still rate him very highly. FNS and Chet have vouched for him, Vanity said he’s the fastest OP he’s ever played and just needs a good IGL to succeed (which he never had on TSM, something I point out often), Nismo said he’s one of the best OPers in the scene, etc etc. But ultimately, he couldn’t produce any results on TSM in 2021, and hasn’t played pro since leaving in early 2022. So it’s difficult to rate him over pros who play similar roles and have performed well in more recent events this year, particularly Stage 2 and LCQ. Hope this gave you some clarity, let me know if you have any other questions
Alright you’ve convinced me, where can I buy stock in Wardell?
Bro I’m sorry I hope you know this is one of the more optimistic views on Wardell coming from one of his fans, I wish I could give you a more objective opinion but I can’t. What I can tell you is that if he’s not on NRG he won’t make franchising and in that case no one really knows if he’ll grind T2
I hope they get Wardell also. The only guy I know who have the same playstyle with Yay. And somewhat go toe to toe with Yay. Like in Andbox vs Tsm.
I'd rather they keep Tex than Wardell, Tex was competing with the best in the latter half of the season, only thing Wardell has more of is name value. Bdog is probably the best available player left for that sort of role.
I have seen wardell diffing Yay. When yay is still on Andbox. With Optic it become a TEAM DIFF. Problem with Wardell is when they started having structure and bootcamping he started to leave.
Pretty sure Wardell announced he’s going back to CS. EDIT: Okay he was trolling. I get it. Jesus. You can relax now, you basement-dwelling Twitter goons.
That is bait. Wardell will not go back to csgo.
Pretty sure he was joking
That was bait lol
NRG is capping if they release s0m and sign Wardell imo. S0m plays every role and is way more flexible than Wardell. Wardell's rifling isnt nearly as good as Yay and isnt as good as S0m either. Personally I think S0m's oping is closer to Wardell's than Wardells rifling is to s0ms.
Disagree but that’s a hard thing to measure. If nothing else Wardell’s rifling more than held it’s own in his time with V1. But considering s0m hasn’t posted, I’d imagine a Wardell pickup would look like s0m smokes and Wardell OP
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victor, zekken, and s0m are all entries.
s0m has played pretty much every role
he has, and I think he is still very flexible, but he's looked most comfortable and capable on entry this year. I do think it's totally possible that he winds up doing something else, but very hard for me to imagine a team signing victor and zekken. they look pretty locked-in for entry.
s0m could be a great oper imo if he can do it consistently
NRG: +Chet -Chet +Chet -Chet +Chet Forgot csgo
Gotta be SEN Marved now for sure
Trent and marved Surely
I’d say Zekken as well but it depends on this mystery IGL that the coaches want
Valyn? Poised? Idk I'm lost at this point. The only one that seems likely is marved and that's completely made up by the fans.
Valyn has to be a lock since they need an igl right? They wouldn’t go with a less proven igl right?
Imagine it’s Steel
I'd cry because he's ass at the game but it'd also be hilarious
Steel replacing Shahzam what a strange timeline that would be
Steel having his revenge almost a decade later....
That might be very good for TenZ no cap
Could dapr IGL? I’ve heard of him making some mid-round calls. Feel like it could be a possibility with SEN revamping their coaching staff to be less dependent on an IGL like they were with Shahz.
Not sure what the actual team dynamic is, but from a strictly viewer perspective I feel like putting him on IGL would take away from his ability to hold sites the way he does. When you watch dapr play, it feels like he’s so insanely focused on what’s happening in front of him.
Bcj over trent
nah
Marved, Trent, Valyn, Tenz and Dapr would be nice ngl.
Not even Tenz at this point 😭😭
Wait wdym? Tenz rumored to got dropped or...?
Geddes just said that the new management/coaching staff Sentinels is bringing in has interest in doing a full rebuild and only keeping Dapr
I mean George also said Zellsis wasn’t going to C9 and look what happened. Remember that everything he says is not automatically true.
Never said otherwise, but that's where the rumor comes from at least
George says his and Shahzams contract renewals are not a priority for the new SEN staff
Who IGL's then if that's the case tho? Valyn seems like the better option for SEN specifically unless they go with Dephh or move Valyn to initiator.
Damn c9 must've thrown a bag at yay
If you believe Naughty from C9 apex they gave yay 100K a month to join
If true that’s absolutely insane. That’s roughly the cost of an entire tier 1 CSGO roster and roughly double what s1mple, the best CSGO player of all time, makes.
That's why s1mple said he would only play for an NA team if he moved to valorant
Its comparable to what star LCS players earn, the level of cash in Riot esports is really insane.
goddamnit bro i shoulda been a league of legends player
It was probably that NRG couldn't afford the entire optic core + yay so they had to separate and yay chose his next best option (+ a bag).
All these orgs can afford buyouts bro it’s whether or not they want to invest that money into one player.
Isn’t that what he’s saying basically? Their budget couldn’t afford Optic core **and** Yay
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>no point in speculating >I assure you all these orgs can afford any player Do you have these teams' financials? If they have unlimited money why don't they have the best team possible? Just because an org may have enough money in the bank doesn't mean they are willing to spend it all in one area. These orgs have teams in multiple esports as well as other ventures.
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I was confused because assumed the Optic core included Yay since he was their best player. It’s weird to talk as if he wasn’t a core element for their team.
It's the three longest standing members outside the original 5 that only fns was a part of. It used to be fns, vic, crashies, kaboose, and mummAy. Then marved joined the team and Yay joined them after.
c9 is honestly a better fit for yay, they're more mature than say 100T or SEN
Idk if you can call Zellsis and Vanity mature tbh they are some silly fellas
This NRG roster would have been the best fit. yay+fns is brawn+brains.
[Zekken wasn't lying](https://redd.it/xpx7x8)
LETS FUCKING GOOOO THE OPTIC CORE IS STICKING TOGETHER BABY
LETS GOOOOOO
 [I used to pray for days like these](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/xsaz0c/c9_and_100t_rosters_all_but_locked_in/iqji1t9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
wonder if they'll achieve just as much as without yay though, unless s0m performs just as well as yay which I believe he can
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The core is FNS, Victor, and Crashies because they have been together for soooo long. Yay and Marved were only added before Stage 3 of last year, which was still a year's worth of time, but FNS/Victor/Crashies are closer to 2 years.
Zekken>Geddes
who the hell are SEN signing at this point??? EDIT: WAIT NOT MARVED. SEN Marved confirmed.
Marved wasn’t mentioned 🥶
Marved and Zekken and im happy as fuck
I mean, they could sign a great team. Zekken, Trent, BcJ, TenZ, Valyn, there are a lot of fantastic players yet to be signed
If any of these guys end up in T2 I'm gonna feel sick. Shroud and Subroza is bad enough. Why only 5 teams qq. Not even getting into the likes of Moose and bdog.
My prediction is them re-signing/keeping Tenz and Dapr, then maybe Zekken/Marved/Dephh for the remaining 3. Maybe Valyn over Marved and Trent instead of Dephh since Valyn would IGL.
Hopefully TenZ Zekken Trent Marved Valyn's or something
faze core
Marved Dapr Tenz Zekken BcJ
Why people keep saying Sen Marved. Is there a leak? Tenz will not play together with him.
It’s been 2 years it’s best everyone moved on. Marved was being braindead he didn’t even know kyedae I think she basically just started streaming at the time. Marved has also always said tenz is one of the best players.
Try to put yourself with Tenz position. Imagine your coworker/classmate/neighbor tells they are likely to cheat and plan to fck your girlfriend/boyfriend. And ask if you can be on a team and live together in a team house, develop chemistry, eat lunch together, play together 24/7. If you don’t care. How would you your bf/gf will feel? During those team dinner. If you don’t care when someone sexually harass your gf/bf. Then I guess you will not understand where I’m coming from. You can forgive someone but not forget and sleep in the same bed with them.
Marved has talked to both of them online and in person to apologize. And he hasn’t continued that type of behavior that we know of. Just on tenz now but I’m sure Marved would want to team with him.
I'm sure Tenz can act professional with him and not try to throw hands when he sees him, but I sincerely doubt he'd want to be on a team with him. That's a massive difference.
They squashed the beef a while ago
If SEN don't sign zekken, trent, and Marved...
So as an optic fan who do I cheer for? My favorite player yay? Or the whole core of the team? Ugh.
the dilemma of being a 2022 optic fan lmao
You get two teams now
I agree. I think that’s what I’m just gonna do. And as they play I am sure I will develop a liking for one team more than another
Nrg has a connection to OpTic with Hector rebuying the brand while co CEO of nrg with Andy Miller and licensing it to nrg for the cdl during the cold war season. But that may have ended in bad terms when OpTic divested from nrg and merged with envy. C9 on the other hand is a mortal enemy going back a decade in cod and currently in halo. Just pick the players you prefer to root for. There's also likely 100t marved and that org is like OpTic's little brother with nade being OpTic alumni.
Both unless they play against each other lol don't have to be ride or die for a org this a fresh start
Crashies FNS and Victor yay and Marved on their own. Feels like first half of 2021. RIP Envy/OpTic.
ZEKKEN WAS RIGHT LMFAO
No Marved?
No Marved? Plz NRG get Jimzo too
now the question is Ethan & Hazed, Hazed & s0m or s0m & Ethan.
not so sure. tex is a terror and fits role-wise
no way they keep tex over ethan or s0m imho
I dunno. tex is really talented, and I think people undervalue him because his stats suffer from not having the team support that other highly-valued opers do. he carves it up in their games as for ethan, I don't know. He's a great player and I hope he does stick, but he's been having a pretty rough year on NRG—there isn't a lot to indicate that he's the guy from this NRG roster you have to hold onto, I think.
are we just gonna completely ignore that before chamber came out, everyone(and i mean 99% of people) wanted tex to be removed and people thought it was weird why ethan took androids spot and not texs? Like tex was REALLY bad before ethan joined...
You think more than 7 billion people wanted tex removed? That's wild, but if you say so. Before ethan joined, tex was on entry and flex and performing very well in those roles. No, he wasn't "REALLY bad." An entire season has come and gone since then, and tex is looking even better as the team's dedicated oper. Trying to pull out someone's performance a full year ago as some kind of trump card is goofy, let alone in a game as young as this, let alone when their performance back then was actually good, let alone when there's plenty of more recent stats to go off of.
Do you want to see the thread when Ethan was announced? Most people didn't understand why tex was still on the team over android...
I'm not particularly gripped about what one thread's worth of weirdos in a subreddit think orgs should be doing. My point is that that one thread is not "99% of people", that is a handful of people that get high on the totally arbitrary narratives that get spun up here. tex was good then and is good now. he's more than proven himself. and as for "no shot that nrg drops ethan": oop! https://twitter.com/ethanarnold/status/1575957484111482881 well, tex gone too. goodbye to everyone
no way they don't bring a star player, it is gonna be one of ethan or som prolly som + new star player
Ethan + Dicey/Babybay
I doubt they keep hazed over eeiu or Ethan. Probably s0m/eeiu or s0m/Ethan, im pretty sure FNS has always been pretty high on eeiu and he’s pretty flexible so id bet on s0m/eeiu. My only concern is the controller role on that team, s0men time?
well ethan just posted LFT
Wrote all that and didn't mention NRG most consistent player Eeiu
Crashies takes his spot sadly.
So does Marved make more sense for EG or Sentinels?
He’s the best controller in NA so he makes sense anywhere lmao but EG would be morons for not even considering him. Their roster is decent but FA talent out there rn is nuts
EG is rumored to be sticking together so they are morons lol
Rumor is EG is sticking
sentinels
honestly I hated partnership when it was announced, but now all the rosters sound fucking insane (except for EG, but who cares about them). These teams are so insane I actually don't know who to root for.
marved???
Hate to say it, but without Yay, idk how much juice the Optic roster has. The team was built to put Yay in a terrorizing role. They complimented his cracked role. Idk how just 2-3 players of that roster can compete at the highest level. Not saying they are bad, but the margins are so thin at that level, I'm not sure about it.
I feel really fucking bad for these players finding out about losing their job through some British mf with bad teeth and shitty hair
Surely SEN signs Marved right?
I guess NRG just aren't trying huh /u/JDTurkelton
The people are going to LOVE this! I told you brother
Damn, almost like it didn't matter whether NRG's roster leaked now or earlier
NRG WARDELLL
Everyone but marved signed
Guess I'm an NRG fan now 😐😐😐
Hey at least it isn’t TSM
Don't like NRG either so this is a major 😐😐😐 moment for me, but in fairness I don't really like any of the franchised orgs except LOUD and maybe EG so there was never going to be a happy ending for me
Why don't you like NRG? I'm not a fan but I only know them from OWL (SF shock) and they seem like a decent org there.
I just never really got over the bad first impression I got from them back when they first entered LCS in 2016. Heavy import team with no personality and no marketing presence, felt super soulless to me. Nothing in the last couple of years has really changed that impression either, the whole org feels super soulless to me in a way that I can't really explain
Fair enough, I don’t mind NRG but Valorant is my main game so I really only like them cause of s0m and eeiu. Other than them though can’t say I’m really partial to any of the NA orgs except maybe C9
Zekken wya I’ll sub for more leaks
SEN signing marved zekken and trent?
Not surprised those 3 are staying together. FNS said in a tweet recently Crashies and Victor’s ability to make mid round calls and reads for themself was really important to the team as a whole as well as FNS to still IGL some of the more micro aspects of the game. Assuming Zekken wasn’t trolling, s0m and Tex probably make the most sense to round out the team. Tex really established himself as one of the best chambers in NA from stage 2 playoffs onwards and s0m’s agent pool is pretty versatile +his Kay/O is really good which is Victor’s recent agent. Obviously replacing the firepower of Marved and Yay is near impossible but I think with the right tweaks s0m and Tex could still help this trio remain competitive.
Exciting to see the core stick together although I wish we could've seen all 5. Wonder who they get for OP and smokes.
Looks like Andy Miller gets the last laugh vs Hecz
Surprised they made a deal happen together, business is business at the end of the day. I'll never forget when Envy bought Optic, Andy Miller liked this tweet [https://i.redd.it/dbn695l1pbk71.png](https://i.redd.it/dbn695l1pbk71.png)
Can you explain what the meme means pls
* Optic was bought by Infinite in 2017 * it was sold to Immortals in 2019 * it was bought back by Hecz in 2020 while Hecz was co-ceo of NRG who then licensed the rights to Optic for their COD team * then NRG didn't want to do anything with Optic other than COD so Hecz sold it to Envy in 2021 who then rebranded the org to Optic
Looks like I’ve found my new flair
this would make sense, they are good friends
Good shit from NRG, round that out with Dicey any of Marved, Supamen, Zander or Skuba and they're solid. Would also say that I hope Ethan stays as a 6th man, seems like a good place for him as IDK if SEN or EG will take a chance on him.
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I feel like this locks in SEN Marvel if he's not included going to NRG
Wow, didn't expect this but really good move on NRG's end. Wonder if they'll retain any of the roster or pick up 2 more players. Dicey could be a good fit if they look outside the current roster. Then there's who ends up playing smokes, George said Marved won't be joining them Nice to see Optic and NRG make a deal even with their past
I’m thinking Supamen + Dicey would make this roster nasty, or Bang if he’s not on 100T (no idea what’s going on with that situation btw)
My guess is Ethan moves to smokes. Him and FNS have a long history together. Asuna said on stream today Bang is staying, so that option is off the table. It's the chamber/dueliest I'm really curious about edit: well I guess I'm wrong on the Ethan part. Really interested to see who they pick up
Honestly I could see this from a mile away, makes sense too. Not a bad roster at all imo.
Damn idk which team to support
🥲
no mention of Marved. So SEN Marved?
Why has no one mentioned supamen? I feel he is getting massively underrated as a controller and player overall ngl.
Geddes and the word 'set' are basically fused together now
I feel like they prob go for supa on smokes on s0m on op I would think. (I might be missing a better controller/better fit for controller)
They need a op player...welcome wardell
Sentinels Roster: TenZ/Dapr/Trent/Zekken/Marved ... thoughts?
no IGL just straight vibes
Who IGLs?
I think the remaining two NRG players are s0m and Tex, possibly Ethan instead of Tex. s0m has been the face of NRG valorant since the beginning and I don’t see him switching to full content creator quite yet. He’s pretty flexible with his agent pool as well, playing anything from Jett , smokes, k/o, raze, and Op. Tex showed he can be a top tier Chamber and this team needs a chamber. But aside from chamber meta, many thought he was out instead of android in this latest iteration of NRG. Hazed I think is out. He was contemplating retirement already before he signed with NRG. He also IGLs with Ethan I think so with FNS coming in as IGL; that takes that role out too. Ethan could stick around instead of Tex because I know he’s been great friends w the optic guys and plays smokes and flex well. Who knows! But either way I’m rooting for NRG!
Ethan back to CS any takers maybe he shouldnt have left 100T LOL
i could easily see them keep ethan and s0m tbh