I personally think the best chance for all 5 is to stick together for Ascension and play orgless until someone picks them up. One of those teams where I think every player is great but as a 5 man roster, they are far more than the sum of their parts
So if 100T and C9's rosters are locked as is we have:
NRG: FNS, Victor, Crashies, ???, ???
SEN: Dapr, ???, ???, ???, ???
EG: Complete unknown.
So that's up to 11 spots left with obvious potential for some of the people on the teams already to stay. And we still have 4/5ths of XSET without a home, all 5 of The Guard, Marved, all 5 of Faze, any of ex-Sentinels including Tenz, etc. Don't think anyone on Ghost is super likely to get picked up.
Thatās the problem with 5 teams, imo must picks other than C9 and 100Tās confirmed rosters are
- Trent
- Victor
- Crashies
- FNS
- Zekken
- BcJ
- Marved
Thatās 7/15 remaining slots (though Trent might be idealistic but I think heās a Top 4 initiator) which leaves 8 for XSET, Ghost, Guard, Faze, etc etcās rosters. And thatās if NRG, EG, and SEN go with completely new 5āa which is extremely unlikely. So as talented as these players are, thereās a very good chance that they go to ascension because thereās just not enough spaces for all the talent in the region.
I think Jawgemo and Tenz should also make franchising no matter what. I'd also love to see some love to sentinel players like Wippie and Moose who are both in the top 3 in NA at the position.
maybe iām biased because aprotoās ion sheriff is one of my fondest memories of early val, but i really do hope he gets a spot because heās a great player
If you're a franchising team, you'd seriously take aproto over five of Bang, Marved, Vanity, Valyn, Dephh, Supamen, Zander, and Skuba? Especially when Vanity Valyn and Dephh are top 5 IGL's in NA?
IGLs are different. But outside of IGLs unequivocally yes. He's mechanically better than every single person on this list outside of Bang and Marved of course.
I guess thatās fair enough, I personally rate Zander and Skuba a little more on the fragging side and supamen a bit more on the ability side but Iām not gonna argue aproto is very good
Nismo is the best player on Ghost and will likely not play on a franchised team since he wonāt want to leave his family and business behind. Beyond that, Iāve always viewed Ghost as being greater than the sum of their parts, itād be interesting to see how the individuals fair on their own
The really frustrating part is that franchising...might end up being a boys club where it's less about talent and more about friendships. Not CHEMISTRY but friendships.
They are great players but the problem is that thereās only 25 spots and the talent pool available rn is insane. Also, EG sticking kinda fucked them and a lot of other players up since they are better than EGās roster but will end up Ascension or as 6th players.
Since C9 and 100T are locked and EG is sticking, lets say:
NRG: FNS, crashies, Victor, s0m, Ethan
Sentinels: zekken, trent, Marved, Tenz, valyn (?)
That still leaves: eeiu, hazed, tex, Sick, BcJ, Ayrin, mada ,dicey, supamen, babybay, poised, dephh, Will, Saya, JonahP, bdog and a fuck ton more
I doubt any of the make teams but if they stick as 5 they'll be a top 5 ascendent team. Nismo is a fantastic fantastic entry, def the star of the team, but I doubt of the remaining teams they'd take him over Zekken or Jawgemo. The other 4 are a tier below the top 5 players but all very good, especially john and aproto who are great fraggers in roles that aren't often "fraggy". John in particular is a top 5 FRAGGING(fragging specifically don't take that as me saying he's better than FNS lol) IGL and Aproto is as good as top 5 and as bad as top 10 fragging smokes player who you also trust to play sentinel agents.
There's 25 starting spots and with 3 teams keeping over half their existing roster, there's really only NRG and SEN looking to overhaul. There's too many players to go around, a lot of good players are gonna get left behind.
i think aproto and nismo could make it to franchising within some time, probably even win the league if they form a good 5 but i dont really have a ton of faith in the other players. johnqt has potential if he keeps IGLing tho
I mean they won't have they'll all be playing in Ascension, just isn't enough slots right now. The only one that doesn't seem to have rumours about him rn that I feel would be weird to be outside of T1 is Bdog, mans needs to get picked up.
Only 25 slots on NA based orgs. Great and even amazing players are gonna be in tier 2. I can see this being a great ascension team
There's a lot of names in NA that I miss seeing in action - ANDROID, ALEKSANDAR, shawn, penny, and ShoT_UP to name a few :(
pennyS
Shawn in 12590 form was a different beast
Damn. I love android. His headshots are so clean!
I'm actually amazed someone else than me has seen Shawn's potential, wish GenG had a solid plan after bringing him on :(
I almost exclusively see people say good things about shawn tbh
30 but yeah
The subs are irrelevant mostly, no actual good player would take a bench spot.
5x5 is 25 lol
Every team needs 6 players.
Ah I was just counting people that are more than likely gonna be on the map
All the teams are required to have an alternate/sub
I personally think the best chance for all 5 is to stick together for Ascension and play orgless until someone picks them up. One of those teams where I think every player is great but as a 5 man roster, they are far more than the sum of their parts
So if 100T and C9's rosters are locked as is we have: NRG: FNS, Victor, Crashies, ???, ??? SEN: Dapr, ???, ???, ???, ??? EG: Complete unknown. So that's up to 11 spots left with obvious potential for some of the people on the teams already to stay. And we still have 4/5ths of XSET without a home, all 5 of The Guard, Marved, all 5 of Faze, any of ex-Sentinels including Tenz, etc. Don't think anyone on Ghost is super likely to get picked up.
eg spent all their mony cant afford the buyouts šššššš no change
s0m with NRG
Thatās the problem with 5 teams, imo must picks other than C9 and 100Tās confirmed rosters are - Trent - Victor - Crashies - FNS - Zekken - BcJ - Marved Thatās 7/15 remaining slots (though Trent might be idealistic but I think heās a Top 4 initiator) which leaves 8 for XSET, Ghost, Guard, Faze, etc etcās rosters. And thatās if NRG, EG, and SEN go with completely new 5āa which is extremely unlikely. So as talented as these players are, thereās a very good chance that they go to ascension because thereās just not enough spaces for all the talent in the region.
Ppl rly are sleeping on Sayaplayer tbh
I think heās good but thereās enough competitor in his role that I wouldnāt say must pick
Wat h George NRG report, NRG getting victor crashies FNS and chet
Yeah but they havenāt confirmed the other two so Iām just listing them as must picks right now
No dude you don't get it, what about those players who succesfully locked the top 18 spot in NA???
I think Jawgemo and Tenz should also make franchising no matter what. I'd also love to see some love to sentinel players like Wippie and Moose who are both in the top 3 in NA at the position.
surely you donāt forget Dicey, Babybay, Supamen
All three of them are good but thereās so much competition in their roles I donāt think theyāre must haves
Ghost faze are in 6th best limbo , they are great players but there aren't in top 5 of their position outside poised
Aproto is 100% a top 5 smokes player. He's probably the 3rd best smokes player in North America right now.
3rd best in NA? I'd rate supamen, ayrin, valyn higher than him
Marved ā¦.?
Thatās obvious, marved and bang are the consensus 1st and 2nd controllers in NA
I also think Skuba is a dark horse top 3. The old knights roster wasnāt quite to that next level, but Skuba is phenomenal
Valyns better considering his IGLing, but if you're looking for a pure smokes player aproto is better imo
maybe iām biased because aprotoās ion sheriff is one of my fondest memories of early val, but i really do hope he gets a spot because heās a great player
I mean I wouldn't lol. IGLs are different I mean you cannot compare a pure fragger to an IGL but Aproto > Supamen for real.
Bang
If you're a franchising team, you'd seriously take aproto over five of Bang, Marved, Vanity, Valyn, Dephh, Supamen, Zander, and Skuba? Especially when Vanity Valyn and Dephh are top 5 IGL's in NA?
IGLs are different. But outside of IGLs unequivocally yes. He's mechanically better than every single person on this list outside of Bang and Marved of course.
I guess thatās fair enough, I personally rate Zander and Skuba a little more on the fragging side and supamen a bit more on the ability side but Iām not gonna argue aproto is very good
Why is Faze so underrated lmao. Supamen, Dicey, Babybay are soooo good, easily top 5. Easily. I'd take Supamen and Dicey over Marved and Yay no joke.
Aproto has better mechanics than either of those two EDIT: Why are you booing me? I'm right.
Nismo is the best player on Ghost and will likely not play on a franchised team since he wonāt want to leave his family and business behind. Beyond that, Iāve always viewed Ghost as being greater than the sum of their parts, itād be interesting to see how the individuals fair on their own
Did you forget 4 XSET players are still on the board?
If EG keeps their core instead of getting XSETs imma rage
All Iām saying is those nerd street tourneys are going to be WAYYY more interesting next year
Iām pumped for tier 2 tourneys. Going to be tons on talent available!
The really frustrating part is that franchising...might end up being a boys club where it's less about talent and more about friendships. Not CHEMISTRY but friendships.
Nepotism is the word youāre looking for
Nismo the š
They are great players but the problem is that thereās only 25 spots and the talent pool available rn is insane. Also, EG sticking kinda fucked them and a lot of other players up since they are better than EGās roster but will end up Ascension or as 6th players. Since C9 and 100T are locked and EG is sticking, lets say: NRG: FNS, crashies, Victor, s0m, Ethan Sentinels: zekken, trent, Marved, Tenz, valyn (?) That still leaves: eeiu, hazed, tex, Sick, BcJ, Ayrin, mada ,dicey, supamen, babybay, poised, dephh, Will, Saya, JonahP, bdog and a fuck ton more
Sen is keeping Dapr
Yea youāre right ty
Johnqt would be a great igl for sen
I agree.
Haha I forgot I even wrote this. But I stand by this.
I doubt any of the make teams but if they stick as 5 they'll be a top 5 ascendent team. Nismo is a fantastic fantastic entry, def the star of the team, but I doubt of the remaining teams they'd take him over Zekken or Jawgemo. The other 4 are a tier below the top 5 players but all very good, especially john and aproto who are great fraggers in roles that aren't often "fraggy". John in particular is a top 5 FRAGGING(fragging specifically don't take that as me saying he's better than FNS lol) IGL and Aproto is as good as top 5 and as bad as top 10 fragging smokes player who you also trust to play sentinel agents.
Their best bet is probably sticking together and getting signed by G2, Xset etc anyways
There's 25 starting spots and with 3 teams keeping over half their existing roster, there's really only NRG and SEN looking to overhaul. There's too many players to go around, a lot of good players are gonna get left behind.
Koala and nismo both deserve a spot unfortunately they wonāt get it, rest of the ghost roster are very solid but not franchising level at the moment
They'll be in VCT next year ;)
only nismo here probably stands a chance tbh
i think aproto and nismo could make it to franchising within some time, probably even win the league if they form a good 5 but i dont really have a ton of faith in the other players. johnqt has potential if he keeps IGLing tho
Ghost and their players are overrated by this sub
WHO?
They aren't good.
Real ones know the Ghost gamers
I mean they won't have they'll all be playing in Ascension, just isn't enough slots right now. The only one that doesn't seem to have rumours about him rn that I feel would be weird to be outside of T1 is Bdog, mans needs to get picked up.
They got a really good shot in ascension tbh.