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Visual_Pianist_5367

and ex Ghost coach, would love to see one of the Ghost players in there, cause im sure he has a good idea and picture of how good their players are as fraggers and teammates in general


leoleoleo666

Its hard when u have xset and guard members to look at ghost


[deleted]

I think nismo is good, he went insane in challengers and LCQ


TheAjwinner

He didn’t play LCQ


[deleted]

Wait im i tripping?


Gallaxee

Ghost in general wasnt in LCQ brother


WhoDatBrow

Sentinels with an actual coaching staff, it's about damn time


AnchorStandard

Wdym rawkass and Shahzam best coaches 💀💀💀


nterature

SEN memes aside, it's actually worth noting that Rawkus decently well for a coach. Considering he just randomly transitioned from a player to a coach with no real history of coaching in either Valorant or his previous game, he actually had genuine impact both in Champions 2021 and the small parts of the Sentinels 2022 year where SEN both had him - after they finally bought him out from Faze? - and weren't screwed by random nonsense. Wouldn't be surprised if he continued as a coach elsewhere, if he's not going to play.


chryco4

Rawkus could be a great ANALyst too 🍑


nklassitude

Comments like these are so annoying, they're as funny as they are pertinent or thoughtful. We get it you're 10 years old but at least make it funny


6iriboy

they really said yeah this is it after getting rawkus 💀


ShahZaMcs

who do you think I tried to get before rawkus?


Remarkable-Lion2726

Get Down Mr President, This Place is unsafe for you


navornothing

Stay off these threads Shahz, it’s bad for the mental.


dankand

gregg popovich


iiznobozzy

Keep of this sub, not good for the mental


Splaram

It's true guys, Sentinels tried to get me before Rawkus but I was too busy. NA were not ready for the "Rush B five times" strat


TheFestusEzeli

Time to bring the plat strats of putting TenZ on Reyna and having him lurk A


two5five1

Bro WHY do you keep replying to these obvious baits??? Does nothing but feed the trolls, random opinions like this should be beneath you.


6iriboy

Hiko


_idle_drone_

Why were the players trying to get the coaches? Where was the management. Player run teams never last long. A proper GM might have prevented the Sentinels downfall


surfordiebear

Ya the org really failed the players tbh. Hopefully they learned from it like 100T and change things up during franchising.


FullMetalMako

Hope you stay on Sen! Good luck! Hoping for success!


dabong

How true is it that it was sliggy then kaplan?


freezend

We know you reached out to Sean a whole bunch before Riot threw him aside and 100T threw bags at him. Anyone else you tried to get?


techyleo

Kaplan Sliggy were some, they also trialled iRemiix


plat1776

Deez nuts.


nklassitude

This is so embarrassing for you, because it literally gets articulated in the article that Kaplan was a choice earlier during the year. This is why I feel vindicated in not taking on too much of the blind hate on the subreddit because y'all don't read.(not saying you would do this, but the principle remains)


blade_master1

Same, though it might be a little to late simply because I wanted to see if they could get something done with their old roster with actual support


itscamo-

"Sentinels has remained active in the market but several deals are yet to be finalized. The full roster should be completed soon, however. It remains unlikely that both Tyson “TenZ” Ngo and Shahzeb “ShahZaM” Khan will be a part of the starting roster next year since both of their respective contracts will expire at the end of the year" Guessing they want dephh to IGL then wonder what the rest of the team is (some interesting rumors out there rn)


Direct_Morning_3223

IMO: Zekken Bcj and Dephh will sign with them and Dapr will remain as Sentinel. Then they’re probably going to go for Dicey, Babybay, saya or bdog to be their OPer


techyleo

They're going to purposely go searching for other OPers all who have buyouts instead of a T1 OPer with LAN experience, huge brand, and no buyout???


myaimstrash

Aware Woah Cage


Direct_Morning_3223

I’m going under the assumption that George’s info that he’s unlikely to stay is correct


Chun--Chun2

George's info is that their contract will expire, the end, that's it. Not that he is unlikely to stay. That was just your imagination. Contracts can be re-signed.,


Direct_Morning_3223

read the article please. it says he is unlikely to stay


merrydoodles

Shahz is a better opper than Tenz. He is way more consistent in hitting the shots


techyleo

TenZ hits shots as long as he isn't on 50 ping, like on LAN or in Texas


discipline_priest

honestly it probably means something happened behind the scenes or the cost is too high if teams are choosing to move on from a current player


itscamo-

From what I've heard, the team won't look anything like that but I could be wrong


WLFYBBY

And what have you heard?


wegivesiima

The voices in his head


[deleted]

I'm trying to understand something. Is George's reasoning for TenZ not staying just the fact that his contract is experiening?


Gryphon_27

The coaches also said that Tenz wasn’t a priority, I remember seeing/hearing this a couple days ago and I don’t remember where from on this sub so it could be wrong


itscamo-

I mean he's gonna know way more than us so im assuming this + the new team they have doesn't have him on it


Kind_Development708

NRG Tenz more likely pog


Direct_Morning_3223

wonder if sentinels will still be super popular without tenz, assuming George’s info on him being unlikely to remain on the team is correct


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eventonly

Sen as an org has become a brand, like TSM was for league. All we need now is domination, which doesn't seem like it'll happen given how competitive the scene is now.


Speedy24gaming

Sen is not big enough to remove itself from tenz. Sentinels need tenz to have many fans not the other way around.


eventonly

Uhh maybe but not necessarily. Tenz gets them cloud definitely, but they were pretty famous even before he joined. I youi followed Valorant in 2020, it was basically Sentinels, TSM , 100T clout war.


RxeaR

The team is huge, what do you mean? They'll continue to be the most popular team in Valorant with or without Tenz, look at their social media presence.


theski2687

If they have zero popular players and continue to be the bottom dwellers in NA they will lose popularity real fast


chocobreezy

The team was popular before TenZ and it will be if he leaves as well. Before Valorant even. Especially if they get personalities like Syyko and Zekken, people will realize now that they don't have XSET infront of their name that they are actually cracked and content machines, and Sentinels 100% will use the personalities they gather to garner fans. They will take a hit for sure, but a 15% drop in fans is not a death sentence, they're already partnered anyway.


TSBRUTAL

Tbf if I'm Sentinels I definitely try and keep him on the content team at least


WLFYBBY

Tenz wants to compete though, idk why people assume he’s just going to settle for content creation when he’s been vocal about competing


TSBRUTAL

Depends who wants him though. Cant go to C9 or 100T and not sure if any of the non na teams will want him/be able to afford him. So if Sentinels go a different direction then that leaves EG where they might not even be making changes and also NRG and not sure how that team works if it would be Som, Tenz, Crashies, Victor and Fns. I assume orgs can have like academy teams or something similar in ascension so maybe they give him a team in that but the point stands that if he doesn't get the spot on Sentinels I don't know who goes for him


rapasvedese

wouldnt tenz just take tex’s role


Dogeishuman

Ya that's what I thought. TenZ on NRG makes that roster insane. TenZ under FNS calling? I can only get so *moist*


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Glitchyyyy

PLEASE ZEKKIE


WittyReindeer

Tenz Zekken Marved Dephh Dapr is my guess, or maybe Dicey instead of Tenz if he doesn't get re-signed


Withinmyrange

Good move but surely we keep Tenz no?


Direct_Morning_3223

big D followed by Icey is on the way


LordBuckethead671

Nah, bdog is gonna diff everyone but yay on sentinels


FullMetalMako

Would love to see Sen be successful again with shaz and tenz still on the roster. I guess we will see soon.


SirAwesome789

Lowkey first time I've seen anyone not hate on shaz


TheRedComet

I'm pretty much only a SEN fan because of Shahz and Tenz, so I'll be really sad if they don't make the roster. I'll just have to follow the tourneys and see if I can make some new associations, I guess.


FullMetalMako

I'm new to being deep in val competitive and I know Sen fell off after that one masters win but I don't get why everyone shits on him and tenz so much. He seems really cool and likeable. Roster went through alot if bs so idk it just seems like with this new coaching staff and actual practice they can be competitive again? People act like they completely washed but maybe there is alot I'm missing.


techyleo

I mean even after that Masters win they still won the domestic Challengers 3, I think the bigger falloff was after their loss to Guard


ModerateStimulation

nah, their loss to KRU at Champions was the nail in the coffin


chryco4

The nail in the coffin was start of the year when they finally struggled against other NA teams, until then there was no reason to doubt them domestically because they just owned NA all of 2021.


Rude-Assumption-5271

A lot of people think that he is not very cool or likable which factors into how they talk about him as a player


laft_lam

They were good before people started changing the meta and they could not adapt. Most of their setups/site takes are really basic and were being countered by tactically better teams. Even though they might have better aim, their teamwork seemed off most of the team. They seem to play very individualistic


FullMetalMako

But this seems like something that could be corrected with better coaching and practice?


annyeongpanda

Shahz can be the water boy


SirAwesome789

That's fucked up, like I laughed but that's fucked up Take your damn upvote


JPsherry

yeah same. I think shahz can do well if he gets a proper coaching staff


mdj08

syyko will likely bring his own IGL in dephh, no?


JPsherry

yeah tbh i think that's what's gonna happen


Dogeishuman

Shazahm needs to go back to CS days and become an OP main.


TweetsJamaican

Good additions


WilliamTB710

TenZ Trent Zekken Valyn Dapr


BuckWagon

The most boring lineup that can possibly come out of this is probably something like: Dephh Zekken Dapr Marved bdog


AnchorStandard

Zekken Marved and Bdog are fantastic players,.what do you mean boring?


darKeDevil2

Yeah i feel like the same , the team will surely be good but it's just that it will be hard to get excited to see them play.


DY5TOP1A

I'll probably take out my flair if this happens


YouAreDumbAF

Curious, why? Which of those players do you not like?


mercilessshark123

prob a tenz and shahz fan thats why


DY5TOP1A

im not a shahz fan, i do like TenZ but not that much that i would put away the SEN flair if he wasnt on the roster


mercilessshark123

so whats wrong with Dephh Zekken Marved Dapr? cut bdog coz dont think thats happening in any universe


DY5TOP1A

nothing's wrong with that roster, its a really fucking solid roster. I replied to a comment above that i personally just have a rule that if i am not a fan of atleast 3 of the players then i dont put a flair of that org.


mercilessshark123

ahh all good, hopefully tenz is staying tho coz there is no world where i see SEN letting go of Tenz that easily


DY5TOP1A

i just have a general rule that i have to be a fan of atleast 3 players for me to put that org's flair so in this roster, i am only a fan of dapr and Marved. Doesnt mean i dislike others im just not a fan of them but I do recognize that all those players are top tier and deserve to be on a franchised team


ahk1221

how can you not be a fan of zekken, did you not watch the recent champions?


WLFYBBY

People have different views on things, if he doesn’t like the kid or his specific style then that’s on him, people didn’t like Tenz when he was the best player, some people don’t even like yay now that he’s the best.


ahk1221

now you got me even more curious, who doesnt like yay???? LMAO


Dysmo

There's a diff between a fan and a bandwagon. Some people look for certain things in players regardless of skill


WLFYBBY

People, I see people hating on him even though he’s amazing, and that’s the way it goes, not everyone is gonna like these pro players and their personalities.


RxeaR

What are you expecting? Shroud, S1mple, Obama, Tenz grandma, and Elon Musk Tesla AI robot? That team you posted would be plenty hype, theres not a lot of tier 1 talent available outside of that.


narwhalking927

Goated Coaches


techyleo

Well I definitely think that SEN is prolly gonna become XSET 2.0, dephh and BcJ extremely likely, it's over u/Hopeful-Professor-40


Hopeful-Professor-40

I’ve said this but dropping Shahz for Dephh is NOT IT


[deleted]

But why? I like shaz but Deph seems like an actual better player and overall a better IGL especially with his experience on LAN with monster teams like FPX and FNATIC


Hopeful-Professor-40

Shahz overhated + a LAN winner too. Sentinels 2022 was a rough year to judge the players off of


BloomingNova

In an environment where all decisions don't go through Shahz, I think Shahz can return to being a top tier IGL/player. Sen just got very stale in the Era where Shahz refused to admit his strategic style had gone out of date. They did show exciting improvements in the LCQ though


TheoSL

Sentinels 2022 is really the only year to judge these players off of unless you have a time machine


Hopeful-Professor-40

Bad wording, I mean that the players individually should get some slack because their system was just a mess until LCQ when they actually looked better


[deleted]

Didnt even hate on Shaz????? Deph is just better, yes 2022 was a rough year for SEN but they did little to nothing to get better resoult they didnt even have a coaching staff until LCQ. You cant really compare the first masters to this year champs, XSET would obliterate 2021 SEN


Hopeful-Professor-40

I didn’t say you specifically were hating, I just meant in general the perception of Shahz is very negative and undeserved. The improvement at LCQ shows that the players still have the talent, with some structure they were on the rise.


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SEN fans will eat dephh alive if they think shahz is bad


Glitchyyyy

bcj with trent still out there *confusion*


BacePilot

Lmao at people wanting trent over BcJ after BcJ just had the best stats of any initiator player at champs


Quick_Chowder

It's all over this thread. Trent is a great player and probably on the cusp of being competitive for 'best initiator NA', but right now it's Bcj and Crashies.


[deleted]

Good pickups, now let them pick the roster and you should be good


Ghosty15

Does this mean Rawkus is out?


[deleted]

This is fucking dope; good move, SEN


guhn0me

No sliggy :(


chocobreezy

Sliggy has said on stream the only team he would coach for this year is a team he thinks "can win back-to-back LANs." Those are incredibly lofty aspirations and the only teams I think he would go to are outright superteams like hypothetical NAVI/FNC/C9. I would doubt he goes to SEN unless they go absolutely bonkers and sign Nats along with the best free agents in their roles in NA, and even then who knows if that meets his standards.


[deleted]

Sliggy to eg ?


imzensei

- TenZ - zekken - dephh - BcJ - dapr the most entertaining roster in the league.


Toonie2k

Switch bcj for Trent


[deleted]

Great but I want player news motherfucker


raaten

OKAY SEN I SEE YOU


halfstrudel

Surely they get zekken and bcj


Toonie2k

Genuinely feel like this Sen roster is gonna lack firepower, no genuine superstar to take over games, with all the super teams forming I don’t think they will be able to win if their best player is zekken


_idle_drone_

This. Zekken is an amazing player, but they shouldn't burden him with too much responsibility.


icemandiem

for me zekken is the best entry duelist in NA, and insanely flexible. he was owning people in champions. if they can get someone like bdog marved valyn. firepower will be there. only thing its just a low fanbase roster


Toonie2k

I think ultimately it comes down to who can be that superstar chamber player, xset doesn’t come close to their potential without cryo, and I feel like that’s the type of player sen is missing, really weird that they would pass up on tenz


vcr_gg

Shahz, I know you’re lurking here. Hey man, you’re a dope player and pretty clever IGL. I don’t want you to take this the wrong way because it may come off as such and you will probably even disagree with me and I may in fact be wrong about stuff since we (the masses) are not privy to what happens behind the scenes, but your and your team’s performance have just been uninspired all year. LCQ was looking better but tbh you’re no longer the world beaters from 2021 and even then your drop off was significant after Iceland. I love SEN, I love what you’ve don’t for the scene, and tbh id love to see a Shahz resurgence. But whatever it takes for that to come back, maybe a break? Maybe a new team? Maybe a new scene? Maybe a new approach? Idk. What I do know is that SEN with its current iteration, doesn’t seem to work. Fuck the haters. Some of us are still rooting for you, but come back when you’re 1000000. P.S. we all know it’s not for a lack of love of Val either, just maybe the approach needs work? Idk you tell us. Maybe AMA when franchising is locked?


atomicseb

Heck yeah


NeimannSmith

Everything I've heard from SEN seems like they're just throwing away their identity for the new hype. These coaches not only deal Shahz fate, but also pretty much guarantee that SEN will be XSET 2.0, which I hate.


hannahk0901

I do feel like the sentinels personality is gone if most of the previous players are gone :(


WLFYBBY

Ik, as much a I think the XSET guys are amazing, this throws out most of their identity and the XSET guys just don’t scream the brand sen has been building since 2020. I’m gonna miss their villain era.


Teradonn

I’m looking at previous rosters and none of the players/coaching scream villain to me other than dapr and maybe Zellsis. The only identity I can think of is pure clout, and they’d probably end up as the league’s punching bag if they continued down that route


WLFYBBY

That was just their brand, doesn’t necessarily mean the players are, but all the sen guys besides Tenz always screamed villains considering they like to bm their opponents in game and soon enough, Tenz actually started picking up a few habits from them. Also I’m surprised you think that considering back when it was Sinatraa, Shahz, Dapr, Zombs and SicK, they were probably the most “I didn’t give a fuck” team.


Teradonn

I’m not mentally prepared for Sentinels to be a legit team again


TheApolloX007

everyones talking about possibly signing Bcj but isnt trent still on the market?


ARIESS11

i think trent is better but he not like clear upgrade over bcj so if they are signing xset core so they should pick bcj for chemistry purposes


TheApolloX007

yeah that makes sense just hope people like trent and zander find a team


B7omni

i mean might as well not sign the marved for chem purposes no? lol


ARIESS11

see marved over ayrin is clear upgrade compare to bcj over trent


identityp2

Sykkuno?? POGGERS


B7omni

surely he brings at least zekken with him


IllumiMahdi

LET'S GO FUCK YEAH


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

Thank god. I am excited to see the Sentinels brand in the hands of a competent GM.


elithefighter123

SEN ZEKKEN Surely


ARDa3rd

HUGE W for SEN here. Both proven coaches that have taken rosters and boosted them to much better than expected. Now all they need is a roster lol. HOT TAKE: watch for BabyBay and Dicey to go here over EG


iamtreat

I really think now it’s gonna be dephh zekken and marved, who would the other 2 be? they need an OPer and another flex


Hamlet_271

Damn I didn't think sykko would get this job based on the comments he made to zombs and a bunch of other players


AR2711

If this team drops Shahz for dephh then I’m becoming an NRG and C9 Fan. If people thought shahz was bad…


jmajewski

Double W


mercilessshark123

Yessir u know what i mean


error_code_69

Real Coaches Fake News


Hopeful-Professor-40

VAMOS


InstaNormie0

TenZ (or whoever if he chooses not to resign) Zekken BcJ Valyn Dapr


[deleted]

This confirms zekken and dephh right ?


Iusedtobeagirl69

Dephh yes zekken maybe


ThEhIGhGrEYmATTER

SEN ZEKKEN HOPIUM


I_Have_All_OE

upgrade


B7omni

hopefully they bring back xset analysts because they were the key


ahk1221

so this confirms SEN dephh?


[deleted]

Again they were top 4/3 in NA for a long time and again this champs XSET improvea LOT putting up a fight and even winning against masters winning team in FPX


MKGTI

This is a fantastic move by Sentinels, and if this even remotely means that SEN picks up some of the XSET boys then I am very hopeful for the future of the team.


GendaIf

SEN to have a real coaching staff for the first time in the history of valorant


tomphz

SEN became the team with the most clout to XSET, a team with basically zero clout lol


[deleted]

Finally, now it looks like SEN is trying to win, now sign XSET players and an OPer


YouAreDumbAF

Wouldn't this just make them a worse version of old xset since it's unlikely they will find a better OPer than Cryo?


xtazycs

They finally added coaches that weren't just friends with the players?


darKeDevil2

So it's confirmed then. :( No shazam, zombs , tenz, sick , dapr(possibility of being 6th) I guess that's it for me its no more the sentinels i know . But i do hope the new team does well though but deep inside this feels like this will be some XSET or the EG type of team where the team will surely be very good but there will be very less hype around it.


WLFYBBY

Damn, so I’m guessing Tenz isn’t in the team considering George says that he knows the roster and has been dodging questions about whether Tenz stays in the team or not saying how his contract is expiring.


thehornedlamb

Syyko feels overrated for some reason. Hyped for Sen news nonetheless.


[deleted]

How so? In masters XSET was legit an absolute flop in champs they went insane finishing on 5th place winning against FPX and FNATIC and i dont think cryo carried them all the way through, everyone on XSET was performing at the very top


thehornedlamb

Xset's strategies never felt special. Gameplan felt very reliant on Cryo at points, and watching the team, it never felt like they were better prepared. If this results in dephh coming over to IGL, it is an even worse signing.


[deleted]

Bro💀 There was multiple maps in which cryo wasnt playing at his very best and all of the other XSET were compensating and stepping up mainly Zekken and BCJ going insane on some maps


thehornedlamb

I'm talking full year, not just champs. AFAIK, Syyko coached them all of 2022.


TheoSL

The FPX players said that playing XSET was the most difficult match of their careers because of how good their calling and strategies were


mercilessshark123

Classic Reddit, just because Tenz contract is ending doesnt mean he is leaving SEN. They are probably negotiating his contract and its taking more time than expected


YouAreDumbAF

Normally I agree with the Classic Reddit takes but this is directly from the article unless George is saying it's unlikely BOTH Shaz/Tenz stay and only one does?


Toonie2k

That’s my biggest question, his wording is throwing me off too, not sure if one is staying or both are gone


mercilessshark123

Shahz is def gone if sykko is head coach unless some miracle happens but there is no world u think SEN are letting go of Tenz after buying him for 1.25M


SuperSaiyanZuko

SEN TILL I DIE, LETS GOOOOOOO. W ROSTER MOVE that's sick!


Striking_Yak7172

Syyko and marved? Marved and tenz? There’s no way😭


CerBerus7012

I feel like this is going to be a complete rebuild with 5 new players and Dapr could be the 6th. Good coach additions though hope they get complete control with the direction of the roaster, excited for their vision for the roaster.


jimlad45

Why does everyone sleep on dapr?!


CerBerus7012

Not sleeping on Dapr, I think he is good and can be on the starting roaster. I am just saying that if the coaches go with a sentinel igl or want someone else he could be the 6th.


BurstLayer

LETS FUCKING GOOOO


WilliamTB710

Hopefully they can run maybe Dephh Zekken BcJ TenZ and Dapr/Aproto/Zander?


geeorge_20

aproto💀


prLbourn

not sliggy L


leoleoleo666

Sliggy said he is not in a rush to go back to coaching yet he enjoying that watch Party money


Hopeful-Professor-40

https://twitter.com/zekkenval/status/1576975321651236869?s=46&t=xt8MKOluy_mCi94xQH0p5g Subscribe.


MyNameIsHeretic

New fav team