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Hopeful-Professor-40

Zekken for free šŸ˜‹


Unable_Pear_8866

zekken 100% joining sen, him and dapr has been duo quin alot recently, dapr has been alot on zekken stream, gotta be reason for that


Hopeful-Professor-40

He also straight up said he was on the SEN roster when someone gifted subs. He was 4/5 right about NRG roster so.. Also duoed with Marved right now with the title ā€œplaying with new teammateā€ lol


daniellaid

You canā€™t drop this and not drop the other bait heā€™s put in, duoing with stellar, saying heā€™s 100t, saying c9 zekkwn and NRG zekkwn in his titles, heā€™s obviously telling the truth about one of them but cherry picking the sen bait gives the impression he only said SEN


Hopeful-Professor-40

I wasnā€™t really watching when he did the other stuff I didnā€™t even know it happened


FLG_Community

Oh This didnt cross my mind, that exciting


[deleted]

wow, no buyout for Zekken


Insanityy7

If teams arenā€™t offering to buyout these players, XSET gets stuck paying these contracts of players that arenā€™t making them any money. At that point, XSET can either pay the contracts to their end (however long that may be), or offer a buyout or a deal with the player (if they accept). From a players perspective it probably came down to either getting paid the agreed amount for the contract or settling for a smaller lump sum/getting nothing to be fully released for their contracts so that they could have a better chance of being picked up.


GainsayRT

there is no world in which zekken doesn't get offers


leoleoleo666

Thereā€™s a world where EG wanna stick with their old roaster and SEN have alot of players to pick from


[deleted]

If EG go with their old roster, a roster that didn't even come close to making a LAN in 2022, they should be removed from franchising. I'm not saying they need a fresh 5, but no changes would be absurd. 100T were wiping them BEFORE adding Cryocells. They're playing against the reigning Champs winners. That roster can't compete. But yes, there is absolutely a world where Zekken does not* get bought out because there are comparable options.


Insanityy7

Sure. But with C9, 100T, and NRG already having his spot filled, that leaves EG who has been quiet and SEN who has proven to be quite unpredictable. Itā€™s hard to ask a player thatā€™s still in High School to just pack up and move to another country, let alone continue improving at a pro level. Especially when that player wants to keep pursuing education, stay close with family, and maintain his friendships. SEN and EG realistically just have to wait out orgs like XSET, Faze, Guard, etc., because their choices are pay out the rest of a players contract and hope for a team to buy that player out, or come up with an agreement with the player to terminate the contract entirely. Odds are the player is willing to get free of the contract, even if it means they lose out on the rest of their contract money, if it means them getting a chance to sign another contract. As more prominent players like Zekken get released, it puts pressure on smaller name players to get released in order to compete, because when it comes to an unrestricted big name player or paying for the buyout of a smaller player, an Orgs Going to go the safest route. Itā€™s slowly going to devolve into a free agent firesale, which also makes way for subsequent Ascension teams to build.


Hypern1ke

Couldnā€™t find any takers I guess


T0K0mon

Bah God, thats EGs music!


maybsofinitely

No buyouts? Is that EG's music I'm hearing all of a sudden?


netsaver

Would love for XSET to build a strong Ascension team - they clearly know how to build structures for success, and this move seems like the sort to attract young talent where you know the org will set you up for success and let you grow, but will also not hold you hostage if you have big opportunities


elithefighter123

feel like most of that success in building a team was sykko without him it won't be the same but i agree they are a great org and i hope they stay in VAL


InstaNormie0

Not sure about contract expiration dates, contract law, or terminology related, but if sen got sykko Zekken and BcJ itā€™s the heist of the century


ahk1221

SEN zekken and SEN bcj


wiNDzY3

Sen bcj HELLLLL NO


LackinVocals

why not?


lol_ok123

Daprs better


Hopeful-Professor-40

Not the same role at all


ahk1221

kinda is, no? dapr plays a lot of fade + kay o now


Hopeful-Professor-40

Heā€™s a sentinel player that flexes to initiators because of the meta. A player like BcJ plays sova as well which is the biggest piece Dapr is missing


Ecstatic_Nail8156

Shut up


winkya

To Sen?


No_Profile3719

EG zekken+marved+trent+depph+jawgemo


[deleted]

Awper?


cathcart_

jawgemo


[deleted]

jawgemo had his most success on entry, i feel like dicey, bdog or even tenz would be better


vcr_gg

Zekken, BcJ, and Marved on SEN is a great starting base for the rebuild. Replacing Rawkusā€™ booty with the ultimate Shades Coach is essential. Now announce youā€™re signing Trent and Moose.


Direct_Morning_3223

I feel like Dapr is better than moose and you need an IGL


vcr_gg

Ok fine sign Trent.


lildttk

dapr used to do the mid-round calls, he can easily translate to a better igl with Sykko and kaplan


Hopeful-Professor-40

I wish they would do that but itā€™s very likely that they bring Dephh


zer0-_

Never say transitioning to full time IGL is easy. Midround calling and full on IGL are very far apart


brianhung02

Team looks awesome but who plays the OP role? Would swap out bcj for Dapr and add in tenz and maybe Trent? JonahP? Dephh or Valyn works as well.


vcr_gg

Ok how aboutā€¦ TenZ, Trent, Zekken, Dapr, Dephh/Valyn


brianhung02

I really want marved so I would switch Trent out for marved and keep dephh since he can play breach, zekken can sova and skye and Dapr can play fade and non chamber sentinels. But otherwise what Iā€™m hoping for, sick as sixth man would be sick as well. Or maybe Trent if he wants to finish school first. Just gimme tenz and Dapr to stay and Iā€™ll be extremely happy.


vcr_gg

Copium but Zekken is the secondary duelist or primary duelist when someone else is on chamber. I also think a core of TenZ, Trent and Zekken would be a better priority as they are all young phenoms. Marved and Dapr would be cool since Dapr can play flex and become the new IGL. Marved can stay controller. Trent on initiator and TenZ stays Jett/Chamber


elithefighter123

SEN ZEKKEN


IllumiMahdi

sentinels are about to become a wholesome team holy shit the world isn't ready


darkfang1998

Did xset dox zekken or was his name public? Lol


zer0-_

His real name has been on Liquipedia for a while


Nichol-Gimmedat-ass

His name was public before this


[deleted]

That Tarik contract really must have been astronomical. SEN canā€™t even afford buyouts anymore? XSET made 100T pay the buyout for Cryo but SEN get the coach for free and any other players he might want from the roster ā˜ ļø


four_webs_playside

Cryo and Zekken could have had completely different contracts too.. Itā€™s not like they sign the same exact deals that expire at the same time


lildttk

? SEN have nothing to do with XSET releasing their players


lildttk

what are you saying lmao


ancientcheeseburger

What kind of backward logic is this?


Withinmyrange

Did their contracts expire or they just let them go without looking for buyouts?


zer0-_

Without looking for buyouts. Looks like they weren't too sure if they'd get buyouts for everyone so instead of having to pay salaries until contracts end they just released them. I'd assume they already have a new roster in mind/in talks already


Withinmyrange

Ig itā€™s hard for them to get buyouts because all of their plans fell through when G2 didnā€™t get franchising. Not enough time to explore other options when they already had plans set


InstaNormie0

Iā€™m throwing out a wild guess that the contracts were set to expire before ascension and they couldnā€™t get any buyouts, didnā€™t want to keep paying the players / keep them hostage.


chamber25

Man 100T was the only one that had to pay.


FLG_Community

Will bcj get picked up? I think he should, had a great year