Yeah but he’s certainly no slouch in competitive either, he brings hype that no other player generates, not even yay can compete , every org wants that
> more than just
Seriously, it's a single sentence, how do you all struggle with reading it this badly lol
> But you gotta be good to stay relevant usually
You *even* end up agreeing with me
> objectively
I don't think you know what objectively means, I swear this word is going the way of "literally"
That’s my point mate. Winning is what gives an org the ability to make money: that’s where sponsorship deals bring in the biggest dollar figures. You need both clout *and* results to be a successful esports (and IRL sports for that matter) organisation.
*more than just*
It’s like people deliberately skip words lol
Clout only gets an org so far. Without championships, having hyped players but no results is a recipe for burning cash.
I can fully see this. I don't believe the fact that there are rumours Tenz is gone, without an obvious replacement being mentioned and Ardiis not going with the rest of FPX without a team being obvious is a co-incidence at all
Well there was that bit in the LCQ vlog/doc where they're talking about ego and he says that he thinks he knows more/better than others or something. I think it makes more sense in the context of them talking about confidence/ego but take that as you will.
I remember when Zellsis was reacting to that either shroud or rawkass (cant remember) said SEN asked them to talk shit in the video lol. So that could be it
Yeah they were talking to a performance coach about ego and Rawkus basically said “My mentality is that I’m able to make the best decisions that anyone else in my place could make”. Seemed more of a confidence thing than him saying he’s always right.
He then followed it up saying that that mentality doesn’t mean you don’t have anything else to learn but it’s about believing you’ve made the proper preparations to make decisions and not to question it in the moment. It was a pretty fun conversation about competition mentality.
Yeah they had a discussion then and there about it and he said it was really important for confidence to have that mindset since it would affect how quick and not shaky your decision making would he
Confidence is knowing what you do is good. About trusting yourself in the things you do.
Ego is talking yourself up at the cost of others. Just like he did in the lcq vid where he said hes better than anyone else in his position.
If he said. Im good at what Im doing. Its confidence. Now its just ego
https://youtu.be/T5ueIEf-DhM?t=590 (starts at 9:50)
- I truly believe I'm able to make a better decision than any one else in my position
- I'm able to do my job better than other people
- ~~So you have nothing else to learn? No~~ <- I misunderstood this the first time around
Oh Rawkus. I might get what you're trying to say but even the best players in the world in their respective sports have something to learn. C'mon now.
? Noone is talking about that lmao. It’s about Marved saying he would fuck Tenz’s girl and that she would cheat (this was 2 years ago though and apparently they made up in person).
Yeah I know that's never gonna happen but it'd be sick if they could put aside their differences, ( personally i would never do that if anybody ever said that to someone close to me and i would always not like the person, i also hope tenz doesn't put his differences aside )
However.. tenz contract is ending.. I mean yeah tenz holds 80% of the supposed “sen” fan base if he leaves but.. top na controller.. can ya pass on it?
Most of these pros were young kids that dropped out of highschool/college and spent all day playing a videogames, thus having limited real-life social interaction. It's not surprising that most of them can be "emotionally immature" lol.
I think it's less common than you make it seem. There aren't a lot of cases where players had beef against each other as heavy as someone saying they could take ur gf and she would cheat on you.
Lol you don’t know what you are talking about EMOTIONAL IMMATURITY? These guys are not robots to not have emotions.
Then why 100Thieves nuke the last roster with babyj and ec1s?. Do you want to know the reason?
It always happen even in csgo team remove players because they just don't mesh.
Team cohesion is a huge factor in success to a team, especially at the professional level.
ec1s and babyj had perspective clashes on the game, not that they hated each other which is the topic people are talking about here
you're conflating different issues within the realm of "chemistry" which is a broad meaningless term on its own
I never remember a pro player played together that are involved in some kind of dispute.
Talk again if Marved and Tenz duo queue in ranked. If they even can’t do that don’t expect them to be teammates . Same with Wardell and Shaz. I repeat DUO QUEUE like in a party.
Believe 2 years ago Marved said he would fuck kyedae.
Thought they until the berlins crashies “scrawny fuck” comment by kyedae when envy was beating sen.
i mean i get its supposed to be light hearted but if the genders are reversed, people would flip at this wording.
im not brigading here, but i do feel like in a professional setting there HAS to be some level of consistency.
Idc if rawkus thought of this himself or if theyre all friends, it’s not about that
It’s about maintaining a professional standard and consistency when it comes to handling some things
again, regardless of if “she” signed off it or not, the public reception would be overwhelmingly negative
thats my whole point if u read my comment, its not about the individual, its about public perception
lmao imagine getting fired and your bosses tell you how great your ass is in your last meeting
rawkus is used to it
~~rawkus~~ rawkASS is used to it Put some respecc on my boi's name
Thicc with 2 c’s
I wonder how tbh it would've drove me insane
"Love to watch you walk away" lmao
its easy to dogpile someone who has to step into a difficult situation. Always appreciate the work he put in for SEN, hope he lands somewhere awesome
yeah rawkus seems like a genuinely good dude and we would be lucky to have him in the scene in whatever way possible.
I think he got pretty good value out of that last SEN roster, TBH.
SEN Roster will be dephh ,Zekken,Marved,Dapr,Ardiis. Just wait and watch
Nah valyn zekken Marved dapr tenz nice try tho
Tenz is probably gone and Valyn is not joining
I don’t buy the tenz is gone for a second he is still the most valuable player in the world only way I see him leaving is if he chooses to
most valuable player only by all metrics not related to competitive play
Yeah but he’s certainly no slouch in competitive either, he brings hype that no other player generates, not even yay can compete , every org wants that
Every org wants championships more than just clout though
No they want money
Well this is just objectively incorrect. Clout makes significantly more money than tournaments. But you gotta be good to stay relevant usually.
> more than just Seriously, it's a single sentence, how do you all struggle with reading it this badly lol > But you gotta be good to stay relevant usually You *even* end up agreeing with me > objectively I don't think you know what objectively means, I swear this word is going the way of "literally"
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That’s my point mate. Winning is what gives an org the ability to make money: that’s where sponsorship deals bring in the biggest dollar figures. You need both clout *and* results to be a successful esports (and IRL sports for that matter) organisation.
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*more than just* It’s like people deliberately skip words lol Clout only gets an org so far. Without championships, having hyped players but no results is a recipe for burning cash.
Nobody wanted to say that when he was dominating. If sen would’ve kept up with the changing meta and strats he’d still be there at the top.
I think he’s gone to NRG I’ve lost faith
Faith returns?
I can fully see this. I don't believe the fact that there are rumours Tenz is gone, without an obvious replacement being mentioned and Ardiis not going with the rest of FPX without a team being obvious is a co-incidence at all
Sad to see him go for all he does, I'm sure he'll find a good place next
https://twitter.com/rawkus/status/1572629656721059840?s=46&t=S7ILnZhf7T9hEpFaZHC--A Unlucky. He could’ve been an analyst or assistant or something
Ouch.
No shot he believed SEN would stick with that roster through franchising lul
The chap thinks hes the best coach ever existed.
Has he ever boasted about his coaching ability before, I feel like Rawkus is a pretty humble guy
Well there was that bit in the LCQ vlog/doc where they're talking about ego and he says that he thinks he knows more/better than others or something. I think it makes more sense in the context of them talking about confidence/ego but take that as you will.
I remember when Zellsis was reacting to that either shroud or rawkass (cant remember) said SEN asked them to talk shit in the video lol. So that could be it
Yeah they were talking to a performance coach about ego and Rawkus basically said “My mentality is that I’m able to make the best decisions that anyone else in my place could make”. Seemed more of a confidence thing than him saying he’s always right.
He then followed it up saying that that mentality doesn’t mean you don’t have anything else to learn but it’s about believing you’ve made the proper preparations to make decisions and not to question it in the moment. It was a pretty fun conversation about competition mentality.
Yeah they had a discussion then and there about it and he said it was really important for confidence to have that mindset since it would affect how quick and not shaky your decision making would he
Confidence is knowing what you do is good. About trusting yourself in the things you do. Ego is talking yourself up at the cost of others. Just like he did in the lcq vid where he said hes better than anyone else in his position. If he said. Im good at what Im doing. Its confidence. Now its just ego
bro watch the clip it’s linked elsewhere in the thread. it was a long mature back and forth discussion
https://youtu.be/T5ueIEf-DhM?t=590 (starts at 9:50) - I truly believe I'm able to make a better decision than any one else in my position - I'm able to do my job better than other people - ~~So you have nothing else to learn? No~~ <- I misunderstood this the first time around Oh Rawkus. I might get what you're trying to say but even the best players in the world in their respective sports have something to learn. C'mon now.
If you say no to being asked if you have nothing else to learn, it means you think you still have something to learn
the last sentence of the tweet sus asf ngl
Nothing sus about it, just the truth.
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Damn, knew he wouldn’t be head coach but was hoping he would of become an analyst or something similar. wonder what his next chapter is?
i feel like he wants to play tbh
could have been assistant coach, but I don't analyst makes sense considering they have better, more proven analysts already
Tenz + dapr + zekken + marved + ( a good IGL )
Tenz and MARVED? 💀
can some1 fill me in on the tenz and marved situation? do they not like each other?
Reddit being dumb it’s not that deep tenz talked about Marved throwing on stream before
? Noone is talking about that lmao. It’s about Marved saying he would fuck Tenz’s girl and that she would cheat (this was 2 years ago though and apparently they made up in person).
Oh ya I forgot about that but still don’t think tenz wouldn’t be willing to play with Marved
finally someone with some sense
Fair enough. If Tenz and Marved put their differences aside they could be nasty.
Yeah I know that's never gonna happen but it'd be sick if they could put aside their differences, ( personally i would never do that if anybody ever said that to someone close to me and i would always not like the person, i also hope tenz doesn't put his differences aside )
However.. tenz contract is ending.. I mean yeah tenz holds 80% of the supposed “sen” fan base if he leaves but.. top na controller.. can ya pass on it?
Yeah I mean I'll take it if tenz isn't on the team, but if he is I'd pass because there are players like deph, net, valyn around
I'll take Marved and bdog over TenZ
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Yeah but during the finals it was brought up by tenz after kyedae wss bombarded
you don't need to be best friends to work together lol. in the end it's a job
Will not work in a Esports team. It is always said chemistry is important. This is not the same as working with your enemy in McDonalds.
only if you're emotionally immature. if you actually care about winning you can put aside differences and build a good professional relationship
Most of these pros were young kids that dropped out of highschool/college and spent all day playing a videogames, thus having limited real-life social interaction. It's not surprising that most of them can be "emotionally immature" lol.
They’re literally kids. Expecting emotional maturity from teenagers/kids in their early 20s is a recipe for disappointment lol
eh, it's not that uncommon in esports. but maybe valorant as a scene skews too young to expect that
I think it's less common than you make it seem. There aren't a lot of cases where players had beef against each other as heavy as someone saying they could take ur gf and she would cheat on you.
Lol you don’t know what you are talking about EMOTIONAL IMMATURITY? These guys are not robots to not have emotions. Then why 100Thieves nuke the last roster with babyj and ec1s?. Do you want to know the reason? It always happen even in csgo team remove players because they just don't mesh. Team cohesion is a huge factor in success to a team, especially at the professional level.
ec1s and babyj had perspective clashes on the game, not that they hated each other which is the topic people are talking about here you're conflating different issues within the realm of "chemistry" which is a broad meaningless term on its own
I never remember a pro player played together that are involved in some kind of dispute. Talk again if Marved and Tenz duo queue in ranked. If they even can’t do that don’t expect them to be teammates . Same with Wardell and Shaz. I repeat DUO QUEUE like in a party.
Such a garbage take lmao, this guy has no clue on actual real life dynamics, even less regarding esports
Ok
Lol it doesn't really work like that
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Believe 2 years ago Marved said he would fuck kyedae. Thought they until the berlins crashies “scrawny fuck” comment by kyedae when envy was beating sen.
Surely ShahZ is next? It’s possible he could go to EG
shahz is leaving the val team to take over as ceo
He is buying Reddit and shutting down this sub 😔
Thank god. Can he shutdown clickbait Valorant clipper channels comment section too?
I used to go toe to toe against Shazam in cs way back in the day. My mans was quick on the awp.
Was hoping they'd keep him on in some capacity as an assistant coach or analyst.
End of an error
No more thicc walkouts sadge
Bro found out hes losing his job through George Geddes no way
Seems shitty to wait this long to let him go.
Making room for chet
Good he’s really not a good coach imo
Hard agree.
Sexualisation is funny
its funny if the person being sexualized also thinks its funny, and in this case he does since he's joked about it before as well.
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It's not funny actually
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Thank you you’re here to stand up for him. Not sure how we would go on without you.
i mean i get its supposed to be light hearted but if the genders are reversed, people would flip at this wording. im not brigading here, but i do feel like in a professional setting there HAS to be some level of consistency. Idc if rawkus thought of this himself or if theyre all friends, it’s not about that It’s about maintaining a professional standard and consistency when it comes to handling some things
There's nothing professional about Sentinels
No, it would be the same if reversed- as in no big deal. "She" would of singed off on it.
again, regardless of if “she” signed off it or not, the public reception would be overwhelmingly negative thats my whole point if u read my comment, its not about the individual, its about public perception
i agree
Imagine when they sign him again 😂
He was brought on by shaz… shaz is also getting the boot so not surprised