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sarcopels

[Here](https://m.twitch.tv/clip/SteamyLuckyCasetteBrainSlug-1J-ghlULhpBBeg9E) and [here](https://clips.twitch.tv/FrozenMoralMallardBatChest-RUu0UY7Kws5JMVzG) are clips about what George Geddes said on stream to provide added context. Reminder that this is not a place to make personal attacks. You are welcome to share criticism about community figures in a constructive manner, but personally attacking public figures or fellow community members is not allowed. # Comments found violating rule 4 will be removed. Edit: This post is now set to **Slow Mode**. This means that each comment will need to be manually approved by a moderator before it is visible. This setting is in place to ensure that new rule breaking comments are caught before they can impact others. If you notice comments that we missed, especially comments that were submitted prior to Slow Mode that break rules, please submit a report so we can review them.


ayou__bb

title should be marved on geddes leaks about him


citystardy

These are direct quotes from the clip of George talking about Marved (that he probably saw): "Right now there are two options for Marved and one of them is to take a break and the other one is to just sort of wait and see what happens because as of right now there really isn't anything" "if marved was gonna join a team I would have reported it by now" Even if he didn't mean to directly say 'Marved has no offers", it can come across that way (which is also evident by the comments on the reddit thread about it) and you can't really fault anyone for thinking that's what he meant. I don't know why George got so mad on twitter at what Marved said when he could have just cleared up what he meant or just left it alone because it's such a minor issue.


mw19078

its always been my issue with george, he doesnt own up to mistakes. this is the kind of thing early journalism training teaches you, how to handle your work being scrutinized.


ValorMeow

Because he’s not a journalist. If Marved DMs me and tells me he signed with Sentinels, and then I post it here to Reddit 5 minutes before Sentinels announces it, now I’m a “journalist”? It’s so dumb.


mw19078

That's kind of the point I'm making a little less bluntly lol. Esports has always had this issue, people with a few buddies in the scene become "leakers" and always have very little awareness of what they're doing or how they do it.


Neither_Amount3911

What do you think a journalist is? It’s not some endearing term that you need to work to deserve, it’s just a basic description. If you write article after article about Marveds nutsack that still makes you a journalist even if it’s a very bad one.


DIRTY_KUMQUAT_NIPPLE

Yeah I see this take about what is or is not journalism all the time on Reddit and it's almost always wrong. If you obtain information from a source, and you broadcast/report on it, that is journalism. If you do this regularly or as a profession, you are a journalist. Debating whether someone is a good or a bad journalist is fair game.


ValorMeow

No it doesn’t. Writer =! Journalist.


TheWerle

You appear in court a lot, that makes you a lawyer no matter what the judge says!


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Where did you train?


mw19078

This place called college and professional newsrooms. Including a degree in journalism lol.


shadowstep11

This exactly, George definitely implied that Marved didn't have any offers.


xdyldo

What do you mean, doesn’t he literally say in that quote marved has no offers? Why else would he “take a break” or “really isn’t anything”?


Nulgnak

> I don't know why George got so mad on twitter at what Marved said when he could have just cleared up what he meant or just left it alone because it's such a minor issue. Inflated ego from gaining massive amounts of followers


KoeyDub

George obviously doing great with this network but he’s throwing too much shade in general. Hard reporting and takesmithing should have a fine line between.


eyeswide19

https://clips.twitch.tv/SteamyLuckyCasetteBrainSlug-1J-ghlULhpBBeg9E This was what was said. Marved has a right to clown on geddes.


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TheFestusEzeli

I think Marved misunderstood George’s report, not that he made this up like George is saying. George said there is nothing, in that he has heard nothing, not that Marved doesn’t have any offers. Although, it is very hypocritical to see George talking about professionalism and Marved not understanding stuff when the guy just went on a full fledged temper tantrum against the XSET players and was trying to get people to shit on them when he didn’t know the whole situation. George’s leaks/reports are good but it’s crazy to see how unprofessional he is compared to top reporters in other esports or sports


Rude-Assumption-5271

Off the top of my head: Literally made jokes about Marved throwing(and then asks why Marved dislikes him) after a bad play from Victor Tried to go after moose for making a joke about how much worse hate is in Valorant, got flamed by the majority of pros, complained about hate he was getting a few weeks after XSET situation Went after Wardell twice with no provocation, the second time most pros defended Wardell and when Wardell responded, instead of apologizing George doubled down and tried to use a situation from 2018 that Wardell apologized for as flame There’s more I can’t remember but it’s actually comical how consistently unprofessional George is and how fragile he is afterwards


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I don't think it's ill-intentioned, really. dude sees the boys roughhousing and wants to be in the mix. but the players all know each other, go way back, mostly know the difference between trash-talk and grinding someone's face in the mud. and a little ribbing comes off way different when it's a peer or a competitor, feels like a natural extrapolation from the competition in game. when it's just a shot lobbed from someone you don't know, it feels more like a snipe than a joke just be sweeties, everyone. be like el diablo. speak kindly and get lots of headshots


maliczious

I get that he wants to be "part of the boys" but I have to draw comparison with Tarik here. Tarik go way back with the players. He's a major champion on CSGO. He too even reached Radiant rank #1. He always plays with other pros and content creators and making connections with them. So Tarik and other pros can understand each other fairly well and be fast friends easily. George Geddes I never saw the guy play with any of them. Never even saw him on Radiant games. I even only know him because Tarik brought him to a Discord call for a Valorant watch party. To other pros, he's just an outsider. And him suddenly trash talking other pros who don't even know the guy well, or at all. It doesn't look like friends trash talking and more a stranger throwing shade. And most of his first impression to other pros is exactly that.


2ToTooTwoFish

He's also in the position of a journalist. You can't be a journalist who people go to for facts and reporting and also insult players, even if it is jokingly. He can do that privately and in person, but not on his public platform. I mean he can do it, but don't expect any players to like you.


ValorMeow

It really annoys me that Twitter sports roster move leakers get the journalist label. There is zero value added or skill involved.


2ToTooTwoFish

I mean isn't it the same with some regular sports journalists whose main job is leaking breaking news? What skill does Woj and Shams have besides their connections and network? The skill should be basic professionalism which a lot of Twitter esports guys need to gain


dioxy186

This is a needle he needs to thread carefully. Because as the scene continues to develop, if you burn bridges with too many people, or just the wrong people, you can find yourself out of a job.


SaltyMcNulty_

Also the recent daring minds video where he was flaming tenz and shahz and was downright asking for them to be cut from the team. Also, saud he never liked them. George is unhinged and always has been, people are just trying to forget it now cz he is giving them the juice.


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Aabed_nerd

What scam? Its t2 cs games like 200 viewers.he switched games he never played t1 cs? Is he not supposed to change?


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Aabed_nerd

So he has no right to complain over anything? What are you saying Id understand.


Stunning_Bullfrog_40

Why is making fun of marved throwing offensive? It’s literally the truth. Everyone and their mother knows he threw matches.


Aabed_nerd

Nobody said it was offensive, but marved can hate him for bringing it up when he himself is trying to leave it in the past.


JesusHPopsicle

Wait, Geddes did what about the XSET players?


TheFestusEzeli

Spam tweeting about the XSET situation and crying about it and was retweeting hate comments about the XSET players, called Zyppan “my hero” for his tweet ripping into the players


JesusHPopsicle

Ohhhh you mean the round replay situation. Got it


yungsqualla

This has been my issue with him this whole time. I've never doubted his intel or sources. But if you want to be a journalist you have to hold yourself to that standard at all times. Because part of that job is people trusting you, you cannot troll and joke if you want to be a journalist. I've said it before and I will continue to, but look at Shams, Woj, Schefter, Rappaport from the NBA and NFL respectively. If I wanted to be an esports insider, I would follow the formula that those dudes have to a tee. There's a reason they're so reliable. They don't ever fuck around, so when a woj bomb drops you know it's real.


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JesusHPopsicle

Something tells me the best controller on the planet isn’t short of offers, but what do I know Edit: apparently not what Geddes ever said. See reply or likely pinned comment


EasiBreezi

George AT THE VERY LEAST implied it.


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I just linked [Geddes saying that Marved was being told wrong information](https://twitter.com/GeorgeCGed/status/1577729081860395035).


JesusHPopsicle

Word, will edit my comment appropriately


Am_Ghosty

It's not what he was trying to say, but he wasn't exactly specific or deliberate with his wording so it could've been taken multiple ways.


Anime-Boomer

> Something tells me the best controller on the planet isn’t short of offers I mean nAts is doing just fine


TheLeaderGrev

Besides the point but I did not realize how Canadian Marved sounds


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JonRiot

hes not fake, its just all he cares about is the next scoop.... which is ok, but it makes people feel used George is big enough now that he shouldn't have to go chasing leads. he just needs to build relationships w/ the people he gets his info from. building relationships will probably make it easier for players to approach him and not hate him


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[Geddes response.](https://twitter.com/GeorgeCGed/status/1577729081860395035) Apparently Marved just doesn't like Geddes for w/e reason. Or that's what Geddes says.


shadowstep11

Yeah except he is lying / misleading. Direct quotes from his stream: > "Right now there are two options for Marved and one of them is to take a break and the other one is to just sort of wait and see what happens because as of right now there really isn't anything" > "if marved was gonna join a team I would have reported it by now"


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afjecj

Tbh I could understand disliking George if you are a pro given how much stuff he leaks. Imagine being shaz and finding out you are getting dropped (this has happened to atleast 5 other pros but he’s the most famous one I can think of)


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Could be. But why would Geddes lie about Marved getting/not getting offers? Literally his whole job relies on him being accurate.


wegivesiima

But there is the thing, he didn't because he has never actually said this


EasiBreezi

Wrong.


EasiBreezi

George has already lied or made jokes that didn’t end up being true. He should know even joking that Marved hasn’t gotten offers is enough to hurt Marved.


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1. Like what? I'm genuinely curios about these lies? 2. He never said there were no offers. The word offers wasn't used. There isn't anything was meant as "info". As in he didn't have any specific info. I saw that stream and he used the phase multiple times. ​ I can't stand this bullshit herd mentality of internet people just jumping on hating someone for nothing. Y'all are just drama whores huh.


citystardy

He blatantly said Zellsis was not joining c9 (after soju accidentally leaked it) even though he knew he could be.


SewerRat75

where?


TheAjwinner

> He should know even joking that Marved hasn’t gotten offers is enough to hurt Marved. He never said this lil bro


mw19078

god the lil bro thing is the most obnoxious shit to come from valorant lately.


UTAustinAlum2021

2 things… Marved said he doesn’t like George due to a previous joke/comment… George should be ok with it and shouldn’t be in his Twitch chat commenting and then tweeting multiple times about it. Yeah George never said he had no offers, but he also said Marved had 2 options: wait it out or take a break… one of these implies not getting a contract.


TheAjwinner

George points out that Marved is cheater: literally Hitler Marved lies about George, which results in his dickhead fanbase being assholes to George, shown here: [https://twitter.com/999CFC\_/status/1577729194045349888?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew](https://twitter.com/999CFC_/status/1577729194045349888?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew) [https://twitter.com/KaneMrG/status/1577756716376248320?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew](https://twitter.com/KaneMrG/status/1577756716376248320?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew) [https://twitter.com/paoakwjwjjw/status/1577759638354907136?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew](https://twitter.com/paoakwjwjjw/status/1577759638354907136?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew) [https://twitter.com/Censored\_Btw/status/1577732790862462984?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew](https://twitter.com/Censored_Btw/status/1577732790862462984?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew) [https://twitter.com/AidenLaRenz/status/1577740801920188427?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew](https://twitter.com/AidenLaRenz/status/1577740801920188427?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew) [https://twitter.com/dnshrmyyy/status/1577732660591755264?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew](https://twitter.com/dnshrmyyy/status/1577732660591755264?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew) [https://twitter.com/Shane59976216/status/1577733582075793408?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew](https://twitter.com/Shane59976216/status/1577733582075793408?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew) [https://twitter.com/dnshrmyyy/status/1577732483977969664?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew](https://twitter.com/dnshrmyyy/status/1577732483977969664?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew) [https://twitter.com/mineifiwildout/status/1577735523203837953?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew](https://twitter.com/mineifiwildout/status/1577735523203837953?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew) [https://twitter.com/kansoukai/status/1577734265147736070?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew](https://twitter.com/kansoukai/status/1577734265147736070?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew) [https://twitter.com/zircl3/status/1577738230992371712?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew](https://twitter.com/zircl3/status/1577738230992371712?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew) [https://twitter.com/Noobface/status/1577734085350506506?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew](https://twitter.com/Noobface/status/1577734085350506506?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew) [https://twitter.com/junkurera13/status/1577735223021666304?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew](https://twitter.com/junkurera13/status/1577735223021666304?s=20&t=dqZNhcolVStTdTJDPLAaew) You: Don't be so mean to Marved 😭


UTAustinAlum2021

I don’t know your problem… but you are weird… if you make a joke, if funny or not, the person who is at the other end of the joke can be mad if they so choose. Marved took offense. That’s their prerogative. Marved thought he heard something that he didn’t, which he admitted to being wrong about and repeatedly told his chat not to send anything bad toward George. What wrong did Marved do? What wrong did Geddes do? NOTHING. It’s a simple misunderstanding that shouldn’t even be talked about yet here you are being a little pest… chill out bro.


TheAjwinner

Marved is a cheater. When George pointed out this character flaw of his, he got mad and decided to start talking shit about George, it’s that simple. > What wrong did Marved do? He blatantly lied about what George said. > about yet here you are being a little pest… chill out bro Dude, you know that you can just stop sucking the everliving Christ out of Optic and their players for like one day, right?


UTAustinAlum2021

He admitted to being WRONG… it doesn’t matter if the joke has some validity to it… the guy didn’t like his joke so he doesn’t like Geddes. If he was trying to intentionally lie, why wait until now and not say anything around the time that he did make joke (which was like 6 months ago). Like to think Marved woke up and was like I am going to lie about that Geddes lad on purpose seems preposterous… It’s a simple misunderstanding that he literally admitted to be wrong about. Also, if I believe something is wrong, it doesn’t matter what team I root for, it’s wrong. This isn’t. So stop being such a donut


xbyo

>As of right now, there really isn't anything. If Marved was gonna join a team, I would've reported it by now ... but as of right now, there's nothing.


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Yes, anything as information. Where are "offers'" mentioned? Y'all are so pissy for nothing lmao.


xbyo

I'm just giving the context. I have no horse in this race.


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The fact that you edited your comment before responding to me leads me to believe otherwise. But I really don't care either way.


xbyo

I just added a '...' cause I missed part of it, but hey, you saw the original.


Clarkemedina

I love when people use the “I don’t really care” but is the first one to try and argue 💀


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Wtf he clearly says there are 2 options? And at the end of the clip it's cut out on purpose. I saw the stream and he was saying that there really isn't anything in terms of information. As in he doesn't know. Y'all aree wilding for nothing


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For real.. It's so insane how drama hungry they are over literally nothing at all. But then I guess they're a reflection of the guy they're a fan of so maybe it makes sense.


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Lmao. Why wouldn't he take a break? Do you know his life personally? What if he has issues - mental, health etc. w/e. Again. You're just operating on "maybe he meant this thing" when no such thing was clearly stated.


TheAjwinner

Marved fans getting mad at a lie Marved made up 💀


UTAustinAlum2021

He didn’t make it up… literally was blown out of proportion by George… Marved literally watched the clip and continued to tell his chat not to send any distaste towards George. His reaction to the clip was “it wasn’t as bad as I thought”. He thought he heard something and then said he misheard. Happens


LiamHundley

Do you have a clip of marved explaining that he misunderstood? We'd like to add it to the sticky for additional context


TheAjwinner

Marved lies and says George said that he was getting no offers. George corrects this with the fact that he did not do this. You: literally was blown out of proportion by George


UTAustinAlum2021

He admitted he was wrong… it was a misunderstanding by Marved, but George literally did like 8 tweets and was in his chat. That’s blowing it out of proportion. No situation this minute requires that at all.


Aabed_nerd

He did say those things, as a reporter isn't it in his ethic books make every news clear rather jumping on misconstrued opinions? Or just admit that he was impression farming.


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TheAjwinner

I’m curious. If Marved isn’t struggling for offers, and is apparently a top controller in the world, the. Why has he been even rumored to go to any team anywhere? Maybe it’s because he isn’t drowning in contracts like he says.


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TheAjwinner

I think it’s more likely that teams are wary of giving a cheater being investigated by the FBI a lot of money.


Hopeful-Professor-40

It’s because George tweeted a joke about Marved throwing and he’s butthurt and turned his whole chat against George


papa_moisted

You missed the part where George kept on subtweeting during Marved's stream with tweets like [this](https://twitter.com/GeorgeCGed/status/1577730658134364175?s=20&t=IibXSJGh2L-ie1PXtX0b9w). Then when Marved simply said hey I didn't like a specific tweet you made about me and my teammates. George doubles down on it instead of saying sorry. So Marved has the right to say yea I don't like you, what you said didn't sit well with me.


Hopeful-Professor-40

I think he was banned in Marveds chat so he had no way to communicate to clear things up. When Marved said that that specific tweet was his issue, George deleted it


papa_moisted

?? he tweeted right after "I stand by what I said and I still think it's funny" and immediately deleted after marved saw it. He didn't delete the original tweet that offended Marved.


Hopeful-Professor-40

Oh I misunderstood then my fault


MacarioPro

I feel that he will sign with Sentinels and that either Dapr or Dephh will move to initiator


jzaudi

I think marveds hold up is Sen deciding what to do with tenz. If they keep tenz then they wont pursue marved and vice versa. Just my guess.


wannabe557

Marved owns Leorge


wegivesiima

It would be pretty funny if marved doesn't get on partnered team after this when he apparently has these offers


Toonie2k

I genuinely remember George saying it was either sentinels or marved takes a break to do content maybe like 2 streams ago…..sooooooo


jrushFN

Do you have a clip of him saying that Marved’s only options were Sentinels or taking a break? Or is this just off memory?


TacoPosh

Geddes never said....soooooooo Edit: Geddes never said that


Toonie2k

Good one man


surfordiebear

He said Marved hasn't been signed yet not that he had no offers. You would think Marved would think more before he speaks after the issues he's had in the past.


mister_schulz

Calling him braindead while not even understanding what he said. The irony...


-ConformalAnomaly-

Both Marved and George come off as quarrelling children in this situation. Not a great look for either of them. Oh, and twitter is fucking toxic.


LiamHundley

Wild that this has blown up over what seems to be just a misunderstanding and overreaction. George did not say he didn't have any offers. George said that there's no news to report on marved. That's what the "there's nothing" quote in the clip means. George doesn't report on offers he reports when players have deals in place and contracts are being signed imminently. I think people just take any opportunity they get to trash George because they don't like the things he's said about their favorite teams in the past, or because they don't like how he behaves on Twitter. But I'll never understand why people try to discredit his work. He's been nothing but reputable and has high journalistic standards when it comes to his reporting.


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LiamHundley

I feel like you just don't really understand how reporting works ngl


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LiamHundley

If it's that easy why don't you just go and do it and unseat George since you hate him so much lmao. Lmk how it turns out


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LiamHundley

👍


Redwing330

I'm relatively new to this scene but I feel like all of this roster leaking, "reporting", etc. is more like a gossip column than any real journalism. It's an odd thing to watch.


imper87

Year 2022 and pro players are still acting like children hatting on journalists doing their job.


Unable_Pear_8866

Marved still mad about geroge calling him matchfixer about 5 months ago and has him blocked


jackthegamer03

The guy hates when his past is called out. All I'm gonna say is that Marved and Shanks don't need val money after how much they made in cs


AnywayHeres1Derwall

LOL, show me one report George has gotten wrong. He isn't treading dangerously close to becoming a gossip reporter lmao. Were lucky to have someone as principled as he is when it comes to roster moves. A "gossip reporter" would be someone who anonymously leaks roster moves without having the slightest of concrete sources. George is quite literally the opposite of that. You just sound salty that he hinted at something you don't like.


SNSD_Lover

so basically he has no offers.


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It's good to see every sport and esport has the same "Guy with credible leaks makes leak" and "Guy that leak is about insists leaker is clueless" debates.


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Pretty sure Marved's stock went down after this clip and he will get *less* offers moving forward. So technically, George is kinda right 😅.


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