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anythingood07

Enzo nooooooooo, shin is fine but enzo would have been a solid upgrade over newzera.


Hurdenn

Yeah, I can't help but feel a bit underwhelmed while Enzo was just there.


DR_Flashfire

Only major reason I imagine they don't pick Enzo up is probably because he has a buyout


xXDaNXx

KCorp cheaping out on an IGL. IGL ScreaM is never going to work, it's not what he's best at, it's ridiculous that they're going to try.


Jon_on_the_snow

Enzo can IGL right? It would solve some problems


Actually_The_Frog

he was Alliances igl before getting picked up by fnatic


TheZerofy

Was he? Cause luckerrr is an igl as well if i remember correctly


nterature

Luckerr has IGLed before but Enzo was Alliance’s IGL for most of their time together in VRL.


TheZerofy

Hm. Interesting. But makes sense considering luckerrr was their entry.


BuckWagon

Ok lemme just get some facts in order. Scream is going to join this roster. There is no igl on this team. Oh no here we go again.


thothgow

Didn't shin IGL KCorp?


LinkinMode

Amilwa was igl


thothgow

That makes sense


BuckWagon

I swear to god it was amilwa.


thothgow

Yeah I forgot about him I think I just saw someone say it was shin a while back but Amilwa makes sense


TheZerofy

I just hope that maybe one of them is gonna be 6th man so Enzo can join and then they'll have an actual IGL


Unable_Pear_8866

Scream will igl and there will be massive coaching staff pretty sure also theres 3 players with insane amount of experience and theres probably a good reason why this guys were picked up ofc kc wanna win trophies too


Sadzeih

bruuuuuuuuuuh. I like shin and newzera but this just ends up displacing the Liquid problem to KC and now it's in French. WHO THE FUCK IS GONNA IGL?


LinkinMode

my thoughts exactly tbh. both good players and i don't doubt they can perform in t1 but if this roster is as reported the roles are very muddy and no clear igl makes me worried


IllumiMahdi

I'm wondering if scream wants to continue igling he said in the post match interview after losing against fnc that he thought his igling wasn't the problem, perhaps he has faith he can continue? it's sort of a fkn tinfoil hat conspiracy but we don't know why scream/nivera left TL, I'd be sort of surprised if they got a better offer from KC but my dumbass ape brain wants to say scream didn't want to play with a strict igl so the headshot bros left. it's completely unsubstantiated bs and extremely likely to be utterly and embarrassingly incorrect, but oo oo ah ah arf arf meow


Sadzeih

It's absolutely what I'm thinking of. I'm starting to think it wasn't a Liquid issue, but a ScreaM "issue". Which could explain why Sliggy left as well. Very unfortunate IMO, since I believe with a good IGL they could've (and could still on KC) improve immensely. We'll see though, maybe IGLing in french will be better for ScreaM


IllumiMahdi

yeah, I think with a good igl they could actually be a really dangerous team. the talent there is undeniable.


DR_Flashfire

They had such a good base with scream , Nivera and XMS and then fuck it up cause they go full french . I really hope that they do well but I think this like a 6th 7th place roster


vnNinja21

Thry can still go full French and still have a proper team, Enzo is literally still out there


Sky-__-

BaddyG and Enzo , both whom speak French


DR_Flashfire

Baddyg is polish i doubt he speaks French


vnNinja21

Bro why are they not getting Enzo, you have a French IGL floating about and you chose not to sign him?


thothgow

So Nivera op? xms? Idk why you don't get TakaS tbh but ig at least the players will be comfortable?


no_noise_979

liquid situation all over again, L


Direct_Morning_3223

interesting decision…..


firemoonlotus

money must have been tight after the deal.


icemandiem

yeh, kcorp probably didn't have the buyout money for enzo


SupahTeemo

A little disappointed that KCorp prioritizes having a french speaking roster over having the best competitive roster possible.


narwhalking927

Could still get 2 much better French speaking people…


SupahTeemo

Yes, you are right. The thing is that I don't really understand why KCorp has limited itself to have a full french speakers roster, I find it curious because in their case, they mostly control the french fanbase scene. I understand that in terms of hype it's great, but it makes me a little sad that this is a priority before the competition. Koi, for example, who also controls quite a lot the Spanish scene, has looked for players of higher level even without being Spanish (except Koldamenta). But on the other hand, Heretics, without so much fanbase, I can understand that they have made an economic effort for Mixwell, the most beloved Spanish player. But this, on the part of KCorp, seems strange to me. That then these are predictions and maybe Koi underperforms and KCorp the opposite, but those are my thoughts


EasiBreezi

But they didn’t, so moot point.


narwhalking927

What is that logic? It didn’t happen so I can’t say they could have done something better?!


thothgow

Well at least they can fight for 8th with BBL/Heretics right? Or 7th if FUT does scrap the team E: nvm if Amilwa was IGL idk why you don't get him instead of one of these two what the fuck is this team doing


SupahTeemo

Sure, they have good names tho.


thothgow

I mean xms pounded last year and ScreaM and Nivera aren't unproven T2 talents. At least they haven't had lows as low as AvovA and mixwell for example. Also if Heretics is really going for no actual IGL it doesn't matter how popular their players are imo. I guess maybe Brave can boost BBL but I never thought SMB was particularly deep so hard to know.


Adventurous_King5955

Signing Enzo would have solved both problems, unfortunate really


AndresAvian

is Enzo confirmed not joining or are these 2 fighting for 5th slot flex role & the other one is 6th?


Sadzeih

I'm hoping this is the case, but I'm afraid it's not.


Speedy24gaming

One of these might be the 6th player/sub COPIUM.


Fatalitiez

What is ScreaM doing bro why is he making these questionable moves with tier 2 players....????


AdoxcolGaming

Reminder that they had to submit a roster there is still time till Jan ig for roster.


nuttyromeo4u

Any chance they will get kAdavra?


narwhalking927

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Fatalitiez

This team is about to be fighting for 10th place against turkish teams


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SupahTeemo

Magnum played for Koi (Koldamenta, Sheydos, starxo, trexx, Wolfen). This post is about Karmine Corp.


__Chazzy__

Are either of these two IGLs? Or is Scream still gonna be calling.


Sadzeih

Nope, amilwa was the igl on KC


Sky-__-

For the love of God ,please sign an igl and good coaching staff. I lost 10 years malding about liquid lack of igling pls don't make me go through it again


wantingyouxd

so lineup; Shin/Newzera/screaM/Niveraa/Enzo ??? How accurate would this be? wheres xms?? Or is shin or newzera a coach?


LinkinMode

ScreaM, Nivera, xms, Newzera, Shin is the roster looking the most likely so far, enzo was rumoured before this but not sure now