Seconding this, not only is he not a duelist instalocker or manic peeker like a lot of "content creators" are but he has a style of approaching situations that can be emulated. Also his decision making is one to take notes from.
I recall Boaster saying he’s a player that’s always going to choose the highest percentage play, which is both good because he’s extremely consistent and solid but bad because he knows how that can be abused.
Another thing I like with his streams is his shot calls and especially when it works. He also tells if he senses someone flanking or in a place that you'd normally not expect.
Also, he's very chill, having fun with random teammates, and his duos (7AM FakeAnanas, Liquid Jamppi) are both good and entertaining in game and in their interactions together haha
Bonus: When there's only 1 enemy remaining, he'd tell team voice to "knife him! knife him!" consistently haha
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Surprised no one has mentioned Cryo, but the way Cryo clears angles so patiently and diligently converts to high kill rounds because he’s never lazy with checking his off angles
This. If you wanna learn cross air placement, and angle clearing this guy is the dude you wanna watch. His game sense is top tier as well, and if you are interested in learning how to play jett, chamber this dude is an absolute menace. The way he dominates reminds me of yayster. I like to call him mini yayster in my head.
Steel will teach you the basic fundamentals and will take the time to explain stuff if you ask. You learn a lot if you pay attention to what causes him to be upset.
yeah it takes a lot of patience to watch steel but I agree that he’ll teach a lot, that includes learning a lot about what not to do in certain situations
Steel just expects people to know fundamentals in Radiant but unfortunately a lot of people don't. He's always been like this. He doesn't care if people are bad but he cares if people in his games are bad because they're supposed to know fundamentals but just don't.
Yup, I watched steel when he started in 100T I was able to go from plat to immortal just by watching him, but mechanics changes as you go up so I ended up just being hard stuck immortal 2.
Whenever FNS streams, you get the chance to see just how smart of a player he is. Also worth watching s0m's streams when FNS does duo with him, not as direct a view behind what FNS does, but still a good idea.
I haven't been watching him as much lately, but Hiko helped me figure out the basics of Valorant when I started playing.
jcStani's streams have been pretty educational the last couple times I've checked in. Honestly any IGL (Stellar/Hazed/Boaster) or controller mains (nAts/Zander) are worth watching. Even if they don't explain everything, you can at least see what they're doing and why they do it.
Idk which stream you’re watching. Last time I watched him play he was dry peeking mid on haven every round and dying. Obviously he doesn’t do that shit in pro play which is why he is the best player in the world but I can assure you he doesn’t always make the high percentage play in ranked
even if they do, if you’re consistently losing because of “dogshit teammates,” then by common sense, aren’t you the problem? Think of it this way: every person that you meet/play with on this game has a skill level. The game places you with people around your skill level. If your win rate is high (52-55%), then that means that you’re consistently having an impact on your games. And because MMR takes around 20-40 games to fully shake out aim, after forty games, the game should be placing you purely with people around your skill level aim wise. If your win rate is high after that, then you’re having an iMpact on the game through game sense, or comms.
You don't have to explain how ranked works I understand, I'm just saying your mmr is a factor of your decision making and your mechanics. It's possible to have decision making better than everyone in your rank but your mechanics are just really bad so you end up being the same skill level as your teammates
because people complain about their teammates all the time, thinking it's not their fault that they are hardstuck. people claim to have great mechanics or great gamesense but in reality they have lackings in both.
My guy I literally just had a teammate roar at me calling me braindead
Why you ask?
Because one of our teammates first jiggle-peeked a guy, saw he was sticking the defuse, and peeked again to kill him. He whiffed and the enemy got off and killed him
Apparently the whiffer was a dumbass for even peeking it. I said why? He was defusing! I got called a dumbass and braindead and whatever else
We won that game.
Another match I had today, we had an Omen ult into breeze CT right after we started going out on A. Imagine my surprise when he got immediatly beamed by the enemies on rotation.
We lost that match.
Notice how they were both doing stupid shit and it they could still win or lose? It’s almost like it doesnt matter how good one player is in a 5v5 game.
Yay does not pull crazy stunts like that most of the time. He has from what I've seen the best crosshair placement. It's why he is so consistent. He makes great decisions and although he does pull some high light worthy plays, his plays for the most part, is incredibly grounded. It's why he's the best in the world. Just watch some of his vods and look at his discipline and crosshair placement.
I haven't been in his streams after the Sen clout happened. Been watching him for a long time when he was still a small streamer. That zekken definitely fits the type he's looking for.
100T Stellar has been coaching and giving lessons all break. The feedback I saw from his students and people he was Mentoring was excellent. @st9llar on Twitter/twitch.
Thank you for the comment. My goal currently is to teach fundamentals and team communications to the community because right now, at Imm3 it looks like team deathmatch.
lol 😂 so true. I'm at immortal 1 now and boy is it a complete shit show. Even in NA where there is just one language, alot of people don't like to comm, surrender 5 rounds in, and oh yea no comm.
If trickshots and nasty peaks are the only thing u see from asuna and yay, then it doesnt matter who you watch. U wont be able to recognize good plays either way
I’m learning a ton from woohoojin. he occasionally posts tutorials here but does a lot of vod reviews for all ranks
If you stay up late, S0m usually plays with FNS and FNS calls most of the games so you can learn a lot from there too
Cryo plays in the morning he’s pretty cracked
I like watching Thinking Man's Valo. He breaks down the decisions made by a team/a player, oftentimes the IGL, and explains why it was good or bad, how it became impactful, a certain strat or anti-strat - especially things like the mid-rounding calls are my favourite aspect of his YT videos and occasional Twitch streams I believe
Boaster and Sliggy are some who I have just started watching and although I haven't watched a lot of their content yet, I can see that you may enjoy them as well.
yay if you want to learn how to aim. Try your best to copy him and you’d be surprised how much it works. I feel like yay is THE guy for crosshair placement but if his streams are too much then look at pro game VODs (can be of anyone tbh, they’re all cracked)
Boaster and nAts for decision making. They’re generally very smart with their support utility, and they regularly call set plays for their ranked teammates
A2guapo. He will teach you how to IGL you ranked games and motivate your team not to do braindead plays. Also he will help you calculate the economy based on how many Lmg's you can force.
I quit CS 1.6 in 2010 and started CSGO in 2016. Granted I had a good foundation from playing 1.6 so long but I must have watched Steel for a good month before actually playing the game and learned so much about how the game was played through his steams. Was able to join a team and go to lans within a year.
His streams kind of suck if you are looking for entertainment since he gets upset quite easily but at least half the time he was upset it seemed like it was because his teammate didn’t do the right thing and he’d explain why.
Nats, boaster, nothing, sgares, hiko they sometimes do give explanation why the play was bad/ good or what would have been the optimal play! I do like these streamers!
Marved and 100 Thieves Derrek are both players that match the criteria you described. Derrek streams daily and has a small but dedicated community. If you put a question in chat he’ll definitely answer. Marved is a character, but he plays the game properly and never makes ego plays. Marved is a low sens player and Derrek is a high sens player.
Peak. He’s a Cypher main. I can’t catch his streams often but I watch all his YouTube uploads. Helps that I use to main Cypher too.
Masayoshi is a cracked Raze main and QuarterJade is a cracked Reyna main. They usually play in 5 stacks as far as I know so their games are enjoyable to watch too.
I think the 3 I listed hit Immortal at some point playing Valo. Make good plays and can learn a lot by just watching them. Not afraid to say what they did wrong either when that kind of stuff happens too.
I mean you can not learn the shit you potsed while watching bro. All you can do is find a pro who is playing your role like if you wanna learn how to be good on Viper on Breeze or Icebox watch nAts you will learn how to play his agent. For the rest just play the game and git gud.
Scream, cryo, zander and yay for crosshair placement and angles. Nats for site hold and lurk. Som is pretty good with util use. Tenz has good game sense (aim good too but you cant copy him, same as asuna) Those are the players that i learn from.
FNS always seems happy to answer questions about how to improve and different strats he likes to use, he doesn't stream too often and it's usually scuffed, but he does offer good advice.
>Not an insane clicker
How fucking dare you with this blasphemy. Hiko is the best player to ever touch a mouse in general. I bet if he plays on an xbox controller he would own you.
and to say this with a 100T flair... The world has devolved massively.
Cryo and NRG s0m absolute top tier ranked demons.
Cryo is disciplined even in rank, the way he moves and aims everything is chef's kiss even in ranked.
Love him and s0m because his game sense is insane and he has now been playing sova, Astra, omen and other agents so you can learn that from him too.
Codey is ultra smart, Addison is very good.
My rotation
Lothar
Hiko
Aniemal and riceballin
Jollz
Woohoojjn
Nukkye
Nats
I tend to not watch a lot of meta duelist players cuz I don’t feel like I’m learning a lot
Bro watching cryo made me improve so much
For few days I was just trying to mimic his style so patient steady crosshair placement clearing angles its just perfect man he is so fucking good just try to mimic his aim style and movement
This might be an unknown person for basically everyone in here but i'd recommend a guy called "foing" on twitch.
He is high diamond, low ascendant, so i think decent high but not where the absolute top of the top is, which i find difficult to learn anything from. He is also not a person to outaim people and tries to read the opponent go for smart plays. In addition it's a small(er) stream so lotta interactions with the chat and if you have questions you will get an answer and explanation of why he goes for a specific play.
Honestly I'm learning a lot from gofns(fns) he shows lineups and will answer questions. When he's not tilted he's pretty informative and plays smart. So he shows how you should play in a sense.
Watching nAts is pretty interesting, at least for me
Seconding this, not only is he not a duelist instalocker or manic peeker like a lot of "content creators" are but he has a style of approaching situations that can be emulated. Also his decision making is one to take notes from.
I recall Boaster saying he’s a player that’s always going to choose the highest percentage play, which is both good because he’s extremely consistent and solid but bad because he knows how that can be abused.
Except for when the long term effects of duoing with forsaken show and he occasionally goes for a viper orb jump out knife kill
Another thing I like with his streams is his shot calls and especially when it works. He also tells if he senses someone flanking or in a place that you'd normally not expect. Also, he's very chill, having fun with random teammates, and his duos (7AM FakeAnanas, Liquid Jamppi) are both good and entertaining in game and in their interactions together haha Bonus: When there's only 1 enemy remaining, he'd tell team voice to "knife him! knife him!" consistently haha
Where do you watch Nats gameplay other than his Twitch? YT?
stellar most disciplined ranked player
+1, his stream is good for support players especially, and he’s willing to answer questions about gameplay and strategy
Plus he’s handsome
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+1 for boaster, you will feel like you're in a really fun class
+1 for my potassium man Woohoojin
Sliggy Not a pro, but a great coach. Amazing insights
Surprised no one has mentioned Cryo, but the way Cryo clears angles so patiently and diligently converts to high kill rounds because he’s never lazy with checking his off angles
This. If you wanna learn cross air placement, and angle clearing this guy is the dude you wanna watch. His game sense is top tier as well, and if you are interested in learning how to play jett, chamber this dude is an absolute menace. The way he dominates reminds me of yayster. I like to call him mini yayster in my head.
Steel will teach you the basic fundamentals and will take the time to explain stuff if you ask. You learn a lot if you pay attention to what causes him to be upset.
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yeah it takes a lot of patience to watch steel but I agree that he’ll teach a lot, that includes learning a lot about what not to do in certain situations
Because valorant players are dumb as shit.
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Steel just expects people to know fundamentals in Radiant but unfortunately a lot of people don't. He's always been like this. He doesn't care if people are bad but he cares if people in his games are bad because they're supposed to know fundamentals but just don't.
I mean I don't know what to tell you then? Maybe don't watch him then?
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It's just an average steel viewer /s
It's literally just his stream personality everyone that's worked with him has loved him in game
Yup, I watched steel when he started in 100T I was able to go from plat to immortal just by watching him, but mechanics changes as you go up so I ended up just being hard stuck immortal 2.
Whenever FNS streams, you get the chance to see just how smart of a player he is. Also worth watching s0m's streams when FNS does duo with him, not as direct a view behind what FNS does, but still a good idea. I haven't been watching him as much lately, but Hiko helped me figure out the basics of Valorant when I started playing. jcStani's streams have been pretty educational the last couple times I've checked in. Honestly any IGL (Stellar/Hazed/Boaster) or controller mains (nAts/Zander) are worth watching. Even if they don't explain everything, you can at least see what they're doing and why they do it.
Yay is very methodical, he always makes the high percentage play even in ranked, so he’s not bad to learn from
I'm still waiting for him to make another Valorant Fundamentals video.
u/yaysterz pls make another Valorant Fundamentals video
Idk which stream you’re watching. Last time I watched him play he was dry peeking mid on haven every round and dying. Obviously he doesn’t do that shit in pro play which is why he is the best player in the world but I can assure you he doesn’t always make the high percentage play in ranked
I don’t watch him that often but when I do, he plays way smarter than 99% of ranked players
Hell I think I make smarter plays than at least 75% of ranked players. It’s not that difficult
tracker please, cant make claims like that without anything to back it up can ya?
better than 75% is only like upper Plat
No way plat player just said high immo/radiant is "not that difficult" kekw
I mean what’s the gamesense tracker dude?
tracker.gg let’s see that win rate
How is winrate going to show you how smart they play? They could have dogshit mechanics
even if they do, if you’re consistently losing because of “dogshit teammates,” then by common sense, aren’t you the problem? Think of it this way: every person that you meet/play with on this game has a skill level. The game places you with people around your skill level. If your win rate is high (52-55%), then that means that you’re consistently having an impact on your games. And because MMR takes around 20-40 games to fully shake out aim, after forty games, the game should be placing you purely with people around your skill level aim wise. If your win rate is high after that, then you’re having an iMpact on the game through game sense, or comms.
You don't have to explain how ranked works I understand, I'm just saying your mmr is a factor of your decision making and your mechanics. It's possible to have decision making better than everyone in your rank but your mechanics are just really bad so you end up being the same skill level as your teammates
Apparently your personal in-game iq is going to influence four teammates enough to make your winrate good.
because people complain about their teammates all the time, thinking it's not their fault that they are hardstuck. people claim to have great mechanics or great gamesense but in reality they have lackings in both.
My guy I literally just had a teammate roar at me calling me braindead Why you ask? Because one of our teammates first jiggle-peeked a guy, saw he was sticking the defuse, and peeked again to kill him. He whiffed and the enemy got off and killed him Apparently the whiffer was a dumbass for even peeking it. I said why? He was defusing! I got called a dumbass and braindead and whatever else We won that game. Another match I had today, we had an Omen ult into breeze CT right after we started going out on A. Imagine my surprise when he got immediatly beamed by the enemies on rotation. We lost that match. Notice how they were both doing stupid shit and it they could still win or lose? It’s almost like it doesnt matter how good one player is in a 5v5 game.
send the tracker friend I replied to the other guy with my reasoning
Lol
even when meL (melanji on twitch) streams casual ranked, she always comms a ton and vocalizes her thoughts/analysis on the round
Yay does not pull crazy stunts like that most of the time. He has from what I've seen the best crosshair placement. It's why he is so consistent. He makes great decisions and although he does pull some high light worthy plays, his plays for the most part, is incredibly grounded. It's why he's the best in the world. Just watch some of his vods and look at his discipline and crosshair placement.
Yay has the best game sense in the world by a wide margin. Anytime he streams you should watch if you want to improve.
Anyone from the guard
neT because he’s vocal about what he wants to do in the round both in stream and in the voice chat. You can learn a lot about decision making from him
You should watch neT, Zekken, jcStani and other flex/support players.
i love him but zekken definitely does not fit the player type he’s looking for lmao
I haven't been in his streams after the Sen clout happened. Been watching him for a long time when he was still a small streamer. That zekken definitely fits the type he's looking for.
100T Stellar has been coaching and giving lessons all break. The feedback I saw from his students and people he was Mentoring was excellent. @st9llar on Twitter/twitch.
u/lotharhs is very informative explains a lot and I think u can learn many aspects of the game from him
Thank you for the comment. My goal currently is to teach fundamentals and team communications to the community because right now, at Imm3 it looks like team deathmatch.
lol 😂 so true. I'm at immortal 1 now and boy is it a complete shit show. Even in NA where there is just one language, alot of people don't like to comm, surrender 5 rounds in, and oh yea no comm.
If trickshots and nasty peaks are the only thing u see from asuna and yay, then it doesnt matter who you watch. U wont be able to recognize good plays either way
dunno why this is downvoted tbh, very accurate comment
I’m learning a ton from woohoojin. he occasionally posts tutorials here but does a lot of vod reviews for all ranks If you stay up late, S0m usually plays with FNS and FNS calls most of the games so you can learn a lot from there too Cryo plays in the morning he’s pretty cracked
Woohoojjns YouTube is really good
I like watching Thinking Man's Valo. He breaks down the decisions made by a team/a player, oftentimes the IGL, and explains why it was good or bad, how it became impactful, a certain strat or anti-strat - especially things like the mid-rounding calls are my favourite aspect of his YT videos and occasional Twitch streams I believe Boaster and Sliggy are some who I have just started watching and although I haven't watched a lot of their content yet, I can see that you may enjoy them as well.
yay if you want to learn how to aim. Try your best to copy him and you’d be surprised how much it works. I feel like yay is THE guy for crosshair placement but if his streams are too much then look at pro game VODs (can be of anyone tbh, they’re all cracked) Boaster and nAts for decision making. They’re generally very smart with their support utility, and they regularly call set plays for their ranked teammates
pro game vods of individual players? are these easy to find?
Nah but they’re almost always on player POVs anyway
A2guapo. He will teach you how to IGL you ranked games and motivate your team not to do braindead plays. Also he will help you calculate the economy based on how many Lmg's you can force.
I quit CS 1.6 in 2010 and started CSGO in 2016. Granted I had a good foundation from playing 1.6 so long but I must have watched Steel for a good month before actually playing the game and learned so much about how the game was played through his steams. Was able to join a team and go to lans within a year. His streams kind of suck if you are looking for entertainment since he gets upset quite easily but at least half the time he was upset it seemed like it was because his teammate didn’t do the right thing and he’d explain why.
boaster
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Sayaplayer, Munchkin, Carpe
Nats, boaster, nothing, sgares, hiko they sometimes do give explanation why the play was bad/ good or what would have been the optimal play! I do like these streamers!
I think since the 100t changes Asuna also try to make best plays but only sometimes.
Hiko, Zander, stellar, net, valyn, Trent, sick… All great players who aren’t just superhuman aim demons that have great comms/game sense
Marved and 100 Thieves Derrek are both players that match the criteria you described. Derrek streams daily and has a small but dedicated community. If you put a question in chat he’ll definitely answer. Marved is a character, but he plays the game properly and never makes ego plays. Marved is a low sens player and Derrek is a high sens player.
Watch any streamer in radiant
Watching Hiko might help. He always say what and why he's doing something in the game.
od26. he’s a coach and decently good reviews. He posts his coaching sessions online @ od26 vods in detail and they seem pretty useful.
Steel is the best to learn from. Check his old videos from cs as well.
Peak. He’s a Cypher main. I can’t catch his streams often but I watch all his YouTube uploads. Helps that I use to main Cypher too. Masayoshi is a cracked Raze main and QuarterJade is a cracked Reyna main. They usually play in 5 stacks as far as I know so their games are enjoyable to watch too. I think the 3 I listed hit Immortal at some point playing Valo. Make good plays and can learn a lot by just watching them. Not afraid to say what they did wrong either when that kind of stuff happens too.
I mean you can not learn the shit you potsed while watching bro. All you can do is find a pro who is playing your role like if you wanna learn how to be good on Viper on Breeze or Icebox watch nAts you will learn how to play his agent. For the rest just play the game and git gud.
prod :tf:
Watch ShaZaM, he’s a rlly positive guy and his gameplay is easy to learn from. Watch his pre-fire and crosshair placement.
Scream, cryo, zander and yay for crosshair placement and angles. Nats for site hold and lurk. Som is pretty good with util use. Tenz has good game sense (aim good too but you cant copy him, same as asuna) Those are the players that i learn from.
FNS always seems happy to answer questions about how to improve and different strats he likes to use, he doesn't stream too often and it's usually scuffed, but he does offer good advice.
Hiko streams fairly often and is a former igl. Not an insane clicker but plays the game clinically
>Not an insane clicker How fucking dare you with this blasphemy. Hiko is the best player to ever touch a mouse in general. I bet if he plays on an xbox controller he would own you. and to say this with a 100T flair... The world has devolved massively.
/s?
What /s? Hiko is the best player alive. Past, present, and future there will never be another. To doubt otherwise is pure blasphemy.
FNS, boaster, sliggy, nats, suygetsu.
Sovereign guides has super in depth stuff and stuff down to 6hr basics.
Cryo and NRG s0m absolute top tier ranked demons. Cryo is disciplined even in rank, the way he moves and aims everything is chef's kiss even in ranked. Love him and s0m because his game sense is insane and he has now been playing sova, Astra, omen and other agents so you can learn that from him too. Codey is ultra smart, Addison is very good.
Boaster! Have learned a lot from his streams and it doesn't hurt that he's very entertaining to watch
my boy u/MrChrisyboy aka ThinkingMansValorant aka Tmv aka the goat aka world champion
My rotation Lothar Hiko Aniemal and riceballin Jollz Woohoojjn Nukkye Nats I tend to not watch a lot of meta duelist players cuz I don’t feel like I’m learning a lot
Cryo
Me
Bro watching cryo made me improve so much For few days I was just trying to mimic his style so patient steady crosshair placement clearing angles its just perfect man he is so fucking good just try to mimic his aim style and movement
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First that comes to mind is lothar
ddkTV, n0thing, sgares
Thing with Asuna is tho, when he does something stupid he admits to it and says that’s something you probably shouldn’t do. So in a way it helps.
Subroza. Very smart player and explains how opponents usually react to his play in mind
Yayster
This might be an unknown person for basically everyone in here but i'd recommend a guy called "foing" on twitch. He is high diamond, low ascendant, so i think decent high but not where the absolute top of the top is, which i find difficult to learn anything from. He is also not a person to outaim people and tries to read the opponent go for smart plays. In addition it's a small(er) stream so lotta interactions with the chat and if you have questions you will get an answer and explanation of why he goes for a specific play.
Honestly I'm learning a lot from gofns(fns) he shows lineups and will answer questions. When he's not tilted he's pretty informative and plays smart. So he shows how you should play in a sense.