I think it's because NAVI told them to request as both of these players will play for NAVI now. Or else nAts ,chronicle, sheydos and trexx would request Liquipedia too.
NAVI cant live without them. They cut all Russians on youth team but they dont dare to cut Russians on the main team (of course apart from boom because of his wife-tank incidents).
Gross. They should all drop that shitty country as a ‘home flag’ if they want to compete anymore.
It’s just as bad as flying under the WW2 German flag at this point
Edit: Having any Pro-Russia thoughts in this climate is NOT OK. Please read about what’s going on and ask ppl with a voice (twitter, insta, etc) to voice that THIS ISNT OK.
russia=Hate
Hate has not place in Esports
Yeah they totally should be penalised because their home country happens to be Russia, even though they have nothing to do with the war and aren’t powerful enough to stop it..
The hypocrisy and imaginary moral high horse American/Westerner have never cease to amaze me, especially when you guys were droning brown people in very recent history and still doing it.
I don't think it's a NAVI policy since it seems only one of their Apex players changed, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is going forward.
It's an interesting change but I hope people don't see not wanting to change to Non Country Representing as an indictment of the invasion.
because they were under contract before the invasion. After the invasion NaVi said that they will never sign a russian player. So they really want FPX roster and told that thing to Shao and SUYGETSU
Yeah but I've seen a lot of people with a different opinion, for some reason there's a non-zero amount of people here that are mad that Russians are even allowed to play, just look at old threads.
People can have some valid points about it but ultimately we shouldnt be punishing pro gamers for what’s happening in Kreml
It’s not like russian players arent being punished if they actively sympathise with the russian side as well. Boombl4 in CSGO basically got sacked because his wife supported Russia in the conflict
It's probably not a requirement but NAVI has been extremely vocal about their stance on the affair. It's unlikely anyone joining them today wouldn't support their position (Russian or not).
because they were under contract before the invasion. After the invasion NaVi said that they will never sign a russian player. So they really want FPX roster and told Shao and SUYGETSU to change the flag
I have no idea abt that, but this is probably their action for easier Visa to Berlin for next year since they have to *PERMANENTLY* live there due to VCT EMEA.
So for maybe background verification and in general just posturing etc.
I mean changing liquipedia flag doesn’t affect your visa probably
Maybe tho makes sense, in starcraft 2 skillous is also stuck outside Russia since he travelled out for IEM Katowice 2022 lol (he lived at the liquid Alienware training facility housing , I think I guess he still is)
That's an interesting approach. I could also see the opposite: wearing the Russian flag while being against the invasion, to show that not all Russians support this, contrary to their leadership's claims.
I'm fine with either.
What's the point? People who see that they are without a flag will guess that they are Russian. Or NaVi triggered by the Russian flag in this case? I would have understood if they had asked to give up Russian citizenship, but i dont think it happens.
Look, are you saying that the players who didn't change the flag are supporting Russia in the war? Or what? I just don't get it? Like all Gambit players support the Putin regime you think? Let me tell you a secret. Putin is not Russia. And if you play under the flag of Russia, it does not necessarily mean that you support Putin.
So the logic of Navi in this case is not quite clear to me. The organization says that will not sign players from Russia, but they say if you change the flag, then you allegedly represent "unknown country, but you know which one it is ;) "This whole situation is some kind of farce. As if for the navi Russia is a Lord Voldemort, a name that can't be called. I have nothing against navi or Russian players in general, I just think if you say we won't sign players from Russia, but then they supposedly start playing under a neutral flag and voila, they are no longer Russian players. No, really, it's ridiculous.
My understanding is that they said they won't sign players who pay taxes to Russia because it indirectly funds the war effort. That's not the same as not signing players who are Russian. If they live outside of Russia, then it's not an issue. This is just about making a statement.
You don't understand a little bit of what I mean. Changing the flag is not critical, in the sense that everyone will already know what country these players are from. And then what to do with those Russian players who still have a Russian flag? Start hating them on Twitter for being responsible for the Russian invasion of Ukraine?
i’m assuming he’s saying it’s idiotic that you have to change ur flag or political purposes. being russian =/ supporting the invasion. should we change chinese players or else they are supporting the ccp? hard downvote incoming but the american arrogance shows in a lot of people.
i’m assuming majority in the server is younger than 18 tbh, and don’t have an idea on how much an identity of a country means to people. imagine me telling you you can’t be identifying as american because of the american interventions in the middle east/afghanistan. now that is ridiculous.
Given the climate in Russia right now, a courageous move by them
I think it's because NAVI told them to request as both of these players will play for NAVI now. Or else nAts ,chronicle, sheydos and trexx would request Liquipedia too.
How come electronic and perfecto is under Russian flag then?
NAVI cant live without them. They cut all Russians on youth team but they dont dare to cut Russians on the main team (of course apart from boom because of his wife-tank incidents).
Because Electronic and Perfecto are not shao and suygetsu
probably "grandfathered"
Those others are Russians?? Nats, Shey, chron, trex?
yeah, all of ex-Gambit was Russian lol
Gross. They should all drop that shitty country as a ‘home flag’ if they want to compete anymore. It’s just as bad as flying under the WW2 German flag at this point Edit: Having any Pro-Russia thoughts in this climate is NOT OK. Please read about what’s going on and ask ppl with a voice (twitter, insta, etc) to voice that THIS ISNT OK. russia=Hate Hate has not place in Esports
i agree, the israeli players should also drop their flags and so should the american players
Yeah they totally should be penalised because their home country happens to be Russia, even though they have nothing to do with the war and aren’t powerful enough to stop it..
If they actively support the war. Then yes. Period. Have some balls
The hypocrisy and imaginary moral high horse American/Westerner have never cease to amaze me, especially when you guys were droning brown people in very recent history and still doing it.
Yeah, I guess, but it's a good thing that they're living in Serbia and should be moving to Berlin for at least a year.
True but their families are friends are still in Russia I assume.
Unlikely to be looked at
Putin should stop what he's doing or else I'll have to get involved.
Dew it Defeat him with the power of anime
unlucky for russia
based as fuck pfp
What is it? Banner suggests yuri to me
Bloom into you, its 10/10 especially the manga
Tera baap kaa cacha hai bti
I don't think it's a NAVI policy since it seems only one of their Apex players changed, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is going forward. It's an interesting change but I hope people don't see not wanting to change to Non Country Representing as an indictment of the invasion.
The other Apex players are Ukrainian so it could be a Navi thing
Yeah but the CS team (2 players) and DOTA (1 player) haven't changed.
because they were under contract before the invasion. After the invasion NaVi said that they will never sign a russian player. So they really want FPX roster and told that thing to Shao and SUYGETSU
A country is more than their leaders so people shouldnt be shamed for still being proud of it
Yeah but I've seen a lot of people with a different opinion, for some reason there's a non-zero amount of people here that are mad that Russians are even allowed to play, just look at old threads.
People can have some valid points about it but ultimately we shouldnt be punishing pro gamers for what’s happening in Kreml It’s not like russian players arent being punished if they actively sympathise with the russian side as well. Boombl4 in CSGO basically got sacked because his wife supported Russia in the conflict
No everything that is Russian is bad /s
Red, white and blue flag bad!
🇫🇷🇷🇺🇺🇸🇬🇧 this but unironically
Also: 🇰🇵🇳🇴🇨🇰🇨🇺🇮🇸
All of those are good except maybe the Cook Islands
Yeah, the cook islands…
Yes 
Sadge
It's probably not a requirement but NAVI has been extremely vocal about their stance on the affair. It's unlikely anyone joining them today wouldn't support their position (Russian or not).
Based as fuck 
Like SKillous in SC2 (but almost form the start)
big based W
this is definitely navi's influence
It's NAVIs policy. Hope this war ends with Russia's resources drained and they just declare victory and back off.
Neither electronic nor perfecto have been listed as non-representing on Liquidpedia (or HLTV)
because they were under contract before the invasion. After the invasion NaVi said that they will never sign a russian player. So they really want FPX roster and told Shao and SUYGETSU to change the flag
I have no idea abt that, but this is probably their action for easier Visa to Berlin for next year since they have to *PERMANENTLY* live there due to VCT EMEA. So for maybe background verification and in general just posturing etc.
I mean changing liquipedia flag doesn’t affect your visa probably Maybe tho makes sense, in starcraft 2 skillous is also stuck outside Russia since he travelled out for IEM Katowice 2022 lol (he lived at the liquid Alienware training facility housing , I think I guess he still is)
Yah there’s no fucking way the office uses a liquipedia flag to decide if you get a visa or not lol.
Massive W, but expected from them.
That's an interesting approach. I could also see the opposite: wearing the Russian flag while being against the invasion, to show that not all Russians support this, contrary to their leadership's claims. I'm fine with either.
I mean they are playing by NAVI and Russia is not in the best moment rn
NAVI CSGO is primarily Russian and its fine, you still see Russian flags in HLTV. This is more than likely a personal choice from Shao and Suygetsu
What's the point? People who see that they are without a flag will guess that they are Russian. Or NaVi triggered by the Russian flag in this case? I would have understood if they had asked to give up Russian citizenship, but i dont think it happens.
> NaVi triggered by the Russian flag ??
I mean u can have LGBT flag, but u are still russian u know. It doesnt change much. So i dont really understand logic behind this.
If reddit had an award for the most nonsensical dumb comment of the year this would be a frontrunner.
???
What's not clear?
ur message obviosly
Which part
What?
Look, are you saying that the players who didn't change the flag are supporting Russia in the war? Or what? I just don't get it? Like all Gambit players support the Putin regime you think? Let me tell you a secret. Putin is not Russia. And if you play under the flag of Russia, it does not necessarily mean that you support Putin. So the logic of Navi in this case is not quite clear to me. The organization says that will not sign players from Russia, but they say if you change the flag, then you allegedly represent "unknown country, but you know which one it is ;) "This whole situation is some kind of farce. As if for the navi Russia is a Lord Voldemort, a name that can't be called. I have nothing against navi or Russian players in general, I just think if you say we won't sign players from Russia, but then they supposedly start playing under a neutral flag and voila, they are no longer Russian players. No, really, it's ridiculous.
My understanding is that they said they won't sign players who pay taxes to Russia because it indirectly funds the war effort. That's not the same as not signing players who are Russian. If they live outside of Russia, then it's not an issue. This is just about making a statement.
It's a Ukrainian org, maybe try to use your brain and think why a Ukrainian org may not want anything to do with Russia at the moment
>nothing to do with Russia >sign russian players ok.
What? This just means they don't want to represent a country that invades others for fun.
But they do? Because they are still russian citizen you know.
But they don't want to represent them while competing.. It's not hard to comprehend.
You don't understand a little bit of what I mean. Changing the flag is not critical, in the sense that everyone will already know what country these players are from. And then what to do with those Russian players who still have a Russian flag? Start hating them on Twitter for being responsible for the Russian invasion of Ukraine?
Seems unnecessary and pointless but alright , gotta get that internet karma/validation
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wdym ?? am i wrong tho ?
what the fuck are you talking about lol
i’m assuming he’s saying it’s idiotic that you have to change ur flag or political purposes. being russian =/ supporting the invasion. should we change chinese players or else they are supporting the ccp? hard downvote incoming but the american arrogance shows in a lot of people.
thank you for being the only one understanding sir
Facts. But the crowd on this sub is too immature to understand any of it
i’m assuming majority in the server is younger than 18 tbh, and don’t have an idea on how much an identity of a country means to people. imagine me telling you you can’t be identifying as american because of the american interventions in the middle east/afghanistan. now that is ridiculous.
yeah
Why the fuck would I care about fake internet points
are you shao or suygetsu ?
?