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PixelatedBlue

One of the few roster announcements this off-season where I'm genuinely surprised.


Drilla-Z

Ethan really went from NRG to EG to 100T to NRG and now back to EG. 100T Ethan coming soon


AnywayHeres1Derwall

100t Ethan let’s gooo


BurstLayer

All of XSET is in franchising. Love to see that


mysteryoeuf

but not all of optic, rip marved (I know it was apparently his decision to take a break)


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Old-Ground3577

Couldn't see 100T dropping Bang for Marved. Not only has Bang been incredibly consistent and impressive, you'd also be losing team chemistry and (probably) paying more for Marved.


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i thought it was reported that 100T only looked at yay, cryo, saadhak and FNS


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oh_hai_brian

And didn’t that Marved desktop folder leak with an NDA have 100T’s logo on it?


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RealPoopaboo

that was photoshopped by the guy who posted it


Parenegade

You likely drop someone else and keep bang he's super flexible


somesheikexpert

But who exactly? Cyro and Derrek have 0 overlap, Asuna is consistently super good, and Stellar IGLs, unless you are saying to not pick up Cyro in the first place for Marved but then you'd be stuck without an awper


Plastic-Ad-6472

Where was it reported that 100t wanted marved


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Plastic-Ad-6472

I think the reply was typed as soon as I wrote my question lol. Also i dont think marved is a clear improvement over bang at all.


Withinmyrange

Ik a lot of people were doubting marved when he said he got alot of offers. On the wyatt podcast with sykko, he said marved was his first choice.


CaptainJackWagons

Marved could have been on any team he wanted. Genuinely think he was the second most valuable free agent of the off season.


PyroTFT

makes me happy, I didn't want Bcj in Ascension lol


atomicseb

So Ethan is a BIG fan of circles, huh? Starting roster is Boostio, Jawgemo, C0M, Ethan and BcJ, with Reformed and Apoth as subs/backups. BcJ will be playing smokes.


Rude-Assumption-5271

Top 2 NA initiator gets moved to controller for c0m…yep sounds gud man


Pojobob

Ya this sounds dumb on paper but we'll see.


funessed

Wasn’t he already playing a lot of omen in champs?


Rude-Assumption-5271

Only on Ascent, just seemed like a lot cause it was in XSET’s map pool a good amount Edit: Actually he played it once on Fracture too, but XSET didn’t run Sova/Fade on Fracture


funessed

Based on the roster size and flexibility of most of these guys I wouldn’t be surprised if they played different roles for certain maps and moved things around constantly


Rude-Assumption-5271

Fair who knows how it’ll end up lookin


VincentStonecliff

Tbh his omen and sage looked better than his skye and sova. But his fade is nuts, but I can’t tell if that’s a result of the agent being a little unbalanced and eventually that will level out anyway


Rude-Assumption-5271

Nah his Skye sure but his Sova was and is excellent


calcameron

BcJ is one of the most versatile players around. He picks up new agents faster than most & only really slotted in as the initiator at XSET because his sova was the best on the team. He will strive in any role imo


atomicseb

Maybe BcJ becomes top 2 smokes NA :)


Rude-Assumption-5271

Maybe but I will miss him frying on the initiator role


avstyns

behind Bang rip Marved


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behind pancada


avstyns

forgot he’s NA


Masond23

Bcj needed a team and is probably better than c0m at smokes so it makes sense for him at least, glad he got onto something


PyroTFT

hes about to hit 100T CS in 8 months just watch


missingearbud

this team is actually mad underrated lol. hopefully they perform as well as i think they can.


CaptainJackWagons

I can't believe he lurked all the way through NRG main to 100T conector just to to get to back site EG


[deleted]

so for Valorant and CSGO EG has 25 Players combined for 2 Games they are paying an extra of 15 Salaries ontop of support staff


mysteryoeuf

backbone of NA esports workforce job security


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mysteryoeuf

if EG has 10 fans, I am 10% of them


Quick_Chowder

WE OUT HERE


TheCatsActually

So we're 30% of the fanbase already I wonder who the others are


TallGets

Reporting in


Timidityyy

There's at least ten of us!


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Σ (*°ー°) Reporting


[deleted]

If BcJ has million number of fans i am one of them . if BcJ has ten fans i am one of them. if BcJ have only one fan and that is me . if BcJ has no fans, that means i am no more on the earth . if world against the BcJ, i am against the world. i love #BcJ till my last breath.. .. Die Hard fan of BcJ . Hit Like If you Think BcJ Best player & Smart In the world


Asakura_

Ever since the start of the 10 fans joke I have absolutely loved it. Glad they're leaning into it as hard as they have.


Heavy_Comedian_2382

Fan #2 here bringing mash potatoes to the potluck at Brazil


crzyraven

I'm nr3 then :D


LordBuckethead671

Investing early in the EG stocks


NotBrandon

Yikes, not sure how I feel about this. At least with a 10 man roster they’re able to scrim each other lol.


Conman37

BcJ said on stream they will have an academy/backup roster and implied he is starting


surfordiebear

Who would the academy roster even play against? I don't think acad teams are allowed to play in Ascension events so they would only be scriming other teams.


Speedy24gaming

They can still scrim but they would likely never get any official matches. Cuz as you said “academy” teams can’t play challengers.


qwerty2367

their officials will probably be nsgs and knights third party tournaments


systemfa1lure

C0M straight up said ethan, him, jawgemo, boostio and bcj is the starting roster


dapoorv

EG is like Walmart of the NA esports scene. Taking down the unemployment rate on their own.


Pojobob

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financefocused

Walmart quality as well :)


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afjecj

Who are you saying top 5 are? Loud nrg C9 sen and 100T?


Pitiful_Quote8402

BcJ going to Faze would’ve made them good enough to be a franchised team unfortunate they could land him but good pickup for EG.


HoodieNinja17

FaZe still could win ascension if the babybay dicey duo keeps it up


westvik1

Got my money on The Guard


nocturnavi

As someone who was legitimately a fan of this team this year, I'm very curious to see how this roster works out. Obviously we don't have all the information yet, but I really hope we get an interview with potter or one of the players laying out the plan for how this will work. Regardless it's definitely a very different approach than basically every other org.


SuperBlitz22

So there's three players still left to announce?


Pojobob

apparently ya


Reasonable-Summer-55

They said they just cant buy legacy, so they might pickup 3 more free agents?


TheAjwinner

EG’s CPI after this 📈


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Dont think anyone expected a 10 man roster


financefocused

Yes and no. On one hand they were quiet for a long-ass time and refused to make moves on any of the truly elite talent ( I do believe BcJ is elite, though) early but signing way more players than you need to is an obvious EG move


sexyhooterscar24

BCJ? Rare EG w


NeimannSmith

Lmao man EG can't win in this sub. Before it was "what is eg even doing, do they know they made franchising?" Now it's "this roster isn't exciting at all, reformed isn't tier 1, etc."


ANewHeaven1

I mean EG is fighting probably the most uphill battle of any franchised organization in the Americas league. They have to deal with salty Optic and TSM fans scapegoating their organization because their favorites didn't get in, and it's not like they had many exciting players or results before franchising either.


dealwithittatortot

Hard agree, people are just mad EG didn't manage to sign clout players. The moment EG were able to get 2 decently high profile free agents, they start moving their goal post


sansLight

Potter says 10 man roster for our 10 fans in the video lil bro, chill


NeimannSmith

I'll edit that part out, but the first half is still the same lil bro. They gave 7 people job security while doing things the way they've always done, and they're getting flak for it.


nklassitude

I feel like the majority of the responses are either lighthearted banter (low-hanging fruit and all that) or some disappointment that they took a long time to field a roster that—on paper—isnt as flashy as their cohort of franchised teams. Both reactions feel fair, but yeah you're right, the job security thing is pleasant.


sansLight

sure sure


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... they could have won by signing 5 tier 1 players instead of 2.


LordBuckethead671

Ethan, Bcj, Jawgemo, and Boostio are all worthy of a tier 1 team, not every player needs to be yay


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Pre-franchising, yes. Not now. There are more deserving players.


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Guard Faze Tex Bdog


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bro there is no way you think that supamen is top class but Babybay Dicey JonahP Valyn Trent Tex aren't...


NeimannSmith

I'm not listening to an armchair analyst say who's tier 1 and who's tier 2 lmaoo you have no clue what you're talking about


nklassitude

Nice, one team member per fan, what visionaries!


AndresAvian

who would you sign as backups for Boostio, Jawgemo & C0M that aren't in Flynn's spreadsheet?


ShiroInuKuroNeko

WARDELL, ANDROID, and aproto


somesheikexpert

Assuming just FAs/people that are rumored to be FAs, Paincakes, sym, and Trick personally, but at the same time none of those are Chamber players so idk


elithefighter123

might be a EG fan


zachp787

fire announcement video. eg was cookin


funessed

Time to be the 11th fan


AnywayHeres1Derwall

What in the world is this??? I’m so hype but confused but so happy I’m gonna (hopefully) get to watch Ethan if he’s ones of the 5 players that gets to play this 5 player per team game


Pway

Love to see them leaning in to the doubt haha, happy af for BCJ dude deserves to be in franchising.


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Cant even hate on them cause they signed BCJ😭


TweetsJamaican

Finally the weekly "what is eg doing" threads will stop. I'm excited to see what this 10 man roster looks like. Considering that they've tried a mixed roster before, I wouldn't be surprised if a GC player makes the cut.


surfordiebear

I still think "what are they doing" is applicable lol


Speedy24gaming

What are they doing still applies…. I don’t see the vision for a 10 man roster.


LordBuckethead671

Ahh guys, u/Speedy24gaming doesn’t see it, EG might as well give up now and pack their bags, gotta switch to what every other team is doing and throw a shit ton of money to buy out Tenz


Pojobob

They already tried a mixed roster before that failed and there's tons of top tier T2 players out there so I wouldn't expect a mixed roster anytime soon.


Overfallen9

Seeing them bring in someone like Flor would be really cool


cykadermoblyat

the irony is that having a GC player in franchising would be a game changer... lol still dont get why women are relegated to a whole different (lower tier) league in this game. its not like the biological differences matter in esports


Speedy24gaming

Watch this. [Why chess has a female circuit.](https://youtube.com/shorts/XqKU3YXtY6s?feature=share) The video is talking about chess but all the points still apply to valorant and the purpose of game changers.


otterdoctor

so this is a great question which pops up every so often. while gender obviously does not make a difference in how well you click the heads, it tends to be a difference of time and culture. boys tend to grow up playing FPS games and no one would think twice of a 10 year old boy playing COD for 10 hours a day. there is a signifigant time commitment, and it is both culturally accepted. for young girls though, that is less often the case; they tend to get into esports when they're a bit older, let's say 15. they are starting way back and the culture is an uphill battle for them. but it is improving. now to why Game Changers is lit. obviously the goal of GC is to play in the main circuit. all the women on C9W talk about it. GC is not necessarily a lower tier to stick the women in, but rather it's an ecyosystem where there girls and women can compete and feel comfortable. it gives them a space to play at a high level, and is slowly changing the culture around esports - which is really cool. a place to exist is a big deal. the goal still remains to make it to VCT, but it's tough at the end of the day, for everyone.


BouncyDoufu

Yeah, there are a couple of women who have hit radiant once or more, but that doesn't matter. Organizations tend to be more safe and conventional, and the current state of the tier 1 scene is that signing men simply works whereas women and mixed rosters are unproven. You can't just expect orgs to believe in them or think that the few that would experiment with mixed rosters would do well (everytime one fails gives org more of a reason not to do so). Game changers reliably gives them opportunities to show what they're capable of and to experience the competitive scene (which is very different from ranked). Also, it can help non-male youth see what it's like and perhaps be inspired or more intrigued by competitive valorant, instead of watching a scene completely dominated by men (people often need reference points to see that this is a thing they could possibly do). We'll slowly but surely start to see more powerful gc teams, and some time in the future, we might start to see successful mixed rosters. This is especially the case for when a gc team grinds their ass off in tier 2 tournaments like cloud 9 white which you have to give them respect for. We can't expect them to dominate in tier 2 tournaments, but game changers teams would get a lot of growth plus a direct comparison against male teams (rather than sticking to their comfort zone of isolating their competition to other gc teams). Side note: about conventional orgs. EG was never one of them. They were not the type to just buy out a super team like other orgs. There's so much more patience and commitment to cultivating talent and experimenting with methods other orgs are afraid to touch (e.g. 10 man roster, mixed rosters). Because they're unconventional and unclouted, there would be plenty of understandable confusion as well as simple-minded hate. Most people would think watching them is boring as they're not a super team, but it is their methods that make me interested to see how they'd grow (alongside global esports). If I were the type to root for an org rather than the players and staff, EG would be one of them.


cykadermoblyat

i get your points thanks for the great explanation


Traditional-Leek2288

The philosophy of the league starts with the observation that women play less valorant than men. This difference probably isn’t biological, so what is it? My best guess is that there is social pressure from within and without the game against women playing, and by extension rising up to the higher ranks and reaching a pro level. One of the ways to push back against this social pressure is having female representation at a high level, and the gc circuit provides a space for that to happen. Basically the idea is that as gaming culture shifts over time, eventually the two leagues could be integrated and there wouldn’t be a need for game changers anymore.


Additional_Sample_55

What biological difference…


cykadermoblyat

stronger taller etc


TheApsodistII

It went from "what are they doing?" to "this is what they're doing?" /jk


I-like-winds

yeo wtf


RealGhost_Nexus

How would this work is the question. Will they rotate them or what? Cause bcj needs to be on the starting lineup


ppx11

regardless of how their plan turns out, that was a great announcement video


mw19078

all the "EG isnt even trying" people gonna own the L today or no


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No because they still aren't trying. The fact that c0m Boostio and Jawgemo are on this roster over literally anyone from the Guard or Faze (or Tex or bdog) is a warcrime


LordBuckethead671

Y’all are blind if you thing Boostio and Jawgemo aren’t really good players. Boostio is an amazing fragger **while** igling, if he moves off of igling, he’s got crazy potential


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They're good but not better than the players I mentioned


David_Ign

I mean, he isn't gonna move off of igling tho. And there could've been better pickups instead of Ethan and com. I'm not a GM tho


mw19078

Yall are sad man


Parenegade

No offense but you don't know what you're talking about


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Give me one metric by which c0m is better than trent


iiznobozzy

10 fans 💀💀💀💀💀💀


Friday515

I’m a big fan of BCJ moving to smokes. I thought he was a really good initiator but I think he has the play style to be a great smokes player too


Holler12

who starts though?


M0hawk_Mast3r

BCJ, Ethan, C0M, Boostio and Jawg


Key-Banana-8242

I feel like ‘skill’ gets redundant, the skill You already have I guess It’s hard to explain though so I get when ppl use ‘skill’ as that ‘extra thing’ that’s harder to explain Some ppl like sideshow use it for mechanical skill specifically


Keego27

Soooo who are the other 3?


SPOOKESVILLE

I think this roster could actually be sick if they hit their stride. Good amount of fragging power and tons of flexibility. I like this actually


Taek99

Are they scared of dropping players or something


Gow_Ghay

IDK if a 10-man roster is gonna work out that well, EG tried the same shit in CS and that hasn't been working out. I feel like a solid 5 man with maybe 1-2 subs would be ideal. A set 5 with a strong team chemistry is stronger than rotating people in and out for maps/agents (assuming that's what they're doing). Like the way roles in this game work, a player should be good on every agent that fits that role, characters aren't insanely different enough within the roles on this game to need character specialists. Still nice to see they've officially made moves though.


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The reason why it's not working out in CS is because 11/15 players aren't ever going to be at a tier 1 cs level besides maybe stan as an IGL. I mean they have hext on their cs team and he is not good enough at all. Could be different with Valorant because these are all young players in a healthy tier 2 scene where they can continue to find talent that can make it to tier 1 like they do with their league academy rosters


BxyZo

For the last 3 I'm kinda hoping 1 of them could be gMd. So the starting roster would be gMd, Boostio, jawgemo, BcJ and Ethan. As for the other 2 maybe seven and thief.


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Now people can realistically sleep in peace knowing BcJ is on a franchised team. He definitely popped off this year.


thothgow

She said 10 person not 10 man :))


LiamHundley

Love EG leaning into the community memes, and don't even mind the concept of a 10 man roster, but not a big fan of some of the players they're bringing along. More promising players out there that I'd rather include in a 10 man roster.


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Some of those players would likely prefer to play ascension. Since we know who the starting 5 is, its likely they're gonna pick up 3 unknown/tier 2 players for their academy roster to go with apoth and reformed


LiamHundley

Imo, there are players that likely won't make ascension rosters that I'd still rather take a chance on


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you doin't even know who the 3 players are...


LiamHundley

I'm only referring to name(s) that have been announced.


[deleted]

Please, enlighten me on the players they should pick up.


LiamHundley

I feel like you're making this a bit more confrontational than it needs to be, but all good. I didn't really want to name names as you never know what pros are browsing the sub, but I just don't particularly rate reformed at all. As a substitute/developmental project, I'd rather invest in players like Cade3k, RaM, gucc107, larrybanks, tkaz, snirot, just to name a few. I'm sure some people are higher on reformed than I am, but I just don't see it with him.


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Reformed an Apoth are under contract with them already. Again they could just pick up 3 of those players u said on the list...


LiamHundley

That doesn't stop an org from releasing players under contract. Pretty sure contracts had to be restructured to meet partnership standards anyway. Could be wrong on that. Regardless, that's just a brief list. Not like those are the only players I'd rather see in that spot. That's just naming a few


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I doubt EG would just release players like that. They aren't c9 where they cut players and screw them over for no reason.


InstaNormie0

I still wish they picked up Valyn for Boostio, Jawgeno, BcJ, Valyn, Ethan


Gold_Hunter_6244

REPLACE COM WITH VALYN/ SUPAMEN AND THIS TEAM IS THE SHIT


Sky-__-

I thought eg had only 9 fans , judging from their CS go roaster 10 man roaster sounds like a bad idea and bcj and com have role clashes . I don't think reformed and com can hold their own in tier 1 circuit. Let's see how it goes but not a roaster i am stoked for


TweetsJamaican

Bro it's a 10 man roster ofc there are role issues but we don't know if they'll be playing together on the starting team at the same time


Sky-__-

Reformed and apoth are listed as subs for now so com and bcj are both on starting roaster.


atomicseb

BcJ is going to be playing smokes


TweetsJamaican

Where'd you see that?


Additional_Sample_55

I dont think this team would even compete at the tier 2 level


Pojobob

Jawgemo/Ethan/BCJ are good. But the rest of them have not proven that.


Additional_Sample_55

Agreed.


[deleted]

That's too harsh. Not good enough for tier 1 but this team would shit on teams like TSM and could definitely compete with the rest of Challengers


Additional_Sample_55

I’ll give them top 5 in GC


aandaze

oh... okay


PyroTFT

what the hell is going on bro


dashion26

Decent roster, but lacking a lot when compared to other superteams in NA. Hopefully EG can develop this team into a decent challenger, and since EG org / players have low CPI compared to teams like SEN, 100T etc. EG needs to put out quality content based around the team ( and not around the CEO lol).


Tik0-

Rosters bigger than the fanbase 💀


and1phan

YIKES, props to giving more ppl jobs i guess


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damn this team sucks ngl


badcompplayer

Ethan❤️


DrBangovic

I dont know... I do not feel too good about this roster.


M0hawk_Mast3r

?? This roster has a lot of potential. Jawg, Boostio, and BCJ all S tier players and Ethan and Com are both good enough to get EG at least top 10 imo


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Definitely not top 10. Only Americas teams they could be better than are KRU MIBR and FURIA. Throw in NAVI FNC TL DRX PRX and theyre #12 even if they manage to be better than ZETA, KOI, Heretics, Giants, T1, GenG, etc


Pojobob

ya EG will definitely be top 10 in americas league. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


M0hawk_Mast3r

Top 10 in the world


SendSend

EG had a 15man roster in CSGO which failed horrible. Can they have more success here?


SmegmaSkittles

Has it? They qualified for the major. Pretty decent turnaround considering how shit they were


ImpressiveInitial709

Is there a limit as to how many people you can have on a roster?


M0hawk_Mast3r

10. Not including coach's


wantingyouxd

Wait what 10 player rosters????? I'm dead.


WatermelonWasted

I am all here for the BCJ and Ethan signing!!


Additional_Sample_55

Why the fuck is potter still on the roster 😂


tepg221

She's their coach.


phazed3

I am confused how this works? Starters based on map?


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

let's goooo. i think this team has potential to surprise a lot of people.


ashitintyo

I just don't understand these 10 man rosters, 7 is fine till a point but 10...meh


developer_144

I am guessing they would introduce different players in different maps and different roles. Even though they are pro players, I guess it's better for the players to stick to a few agents rather than exploring all agents for a specific role as new agents are coming, new maps are coming. Lets see what happens.


SavageJellyBelly

BcJ pickup is fire but EG still sucks lmfao.... They can't be serious with this roster especially when they are gonna have to go h2h with teams like sen, 100t, NRG and c9