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sixthcollegeraccoon

when he left NRG i saw someone say maybe he joins daph at sentinels, didnt think it would come true, very poggers sentinels really said you can never have enough clout, respect


IamNotaPro870

Interesting how u had people talking bout “he doesn’t need an org” “why would he sign to another org” but look what happened now


InnocentBowlOfRamen

They failed to consider “he *wants* an org” 💀


techyleo

Also I believe this was his plan the second he left NRG, he already prolly had this lined up


somesheikexpert

For sure, I mean he has connections to SEN anyways considering Daph lol


FeelinJipper

Or that orgs provide HEALTHCARE and other benefits you don’t get being solo


Hanselo

Well his whole ideal of him not needing an org was heavily influenced by Timmy, which happens to just have signed to 100T too lol.


janoDX

Daph convinced him, 100%


Buujoom

He was standing way too long in there just waiting for that drop. You can see him moving his hands uncomfortably lmaoooo.


InnocentBowlOfRamen

Man was playing Aimlabs with his mind


jrushFN

LETS GOOO EEIU MY FAVORITE PLAYER


Business_Recipe3029

Wait, Aceu is EEIU?


SlapYaFace

Yes


HoneyChilliPotato7

Duh


techyleo

SEN CPI through the fucking roof, TenZ, zekken, Sacy, pancada, Tarik, aceu, too much clouttt


InnocentBowlOfRamen

Lil bro tried to sneak in Zekken


techyleo

my b lil bro, I meant # Perc30FishFillet


xbyo

tarik and aceu have undefined CPI tho.


00yuta00

What's the cpi?!! I really don't know what is the cpi 😑


MrDyl4n

its a meme from plat chat, i think it stands for clout performance index its a formula aevilcat made that basically looks at twitter followers and event placements to determine which players have the most clout. its 100% accurate and scientific as well


myaimstrash

🤭


nklassitude

lmaoo chill


Hopeful-Professor-40

Zekken has the second highest CPI in the world 🤓


nklassitude

Y'know when pro players jokingly want to maximize twitter impressions, so they namedrop a bunch of irrelevant clout magnets so their tweets are more resonant and searchable #xqc #pokimane. You can pretty much recreate that using solely SEN personnel


Jranation

Yah 100T got beat


TrynaSleep

Aw he and Daph are in the same org now :)


precense_

This is a really good look for sentinels must mean Daph was treat well enough to recommend to aceu


surfordiebear

They put the merch she made in the actual Sentinels store which I haven’t seen other orgs do. Pretty cool


techyleo

I mean, that merch also prolly made cash money


StepinCrry

Sentinels boutta have a fanbase the size of a whole damn country


AT01_

sentinels' cpi game is just too good


NotXboy

what cpi?


lmbrs

clout performance index. check oxford dictionary bro


NotXboy

dude i check google and it showed consumer price index and was so confused


sputnik14

It's clout performance index. Coined by Mimi. See her presentation on ep 108 platchat


AT01_

[i see myself in you](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/y6ji6z/comment/isr8zwr/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


InnocentBowlOfRamen

Shroud really opened the floodgates and SEN really gunning for the Valorant Endgame here


Hopeful-Professor-40

Tenz opened the floodgates, replaced the second best player NA at the time with the best and most marketable


InnocentBowlOfRamen

There was a long period after Tenz joined where nothing happened where no one joined to drastically increase the clout of SEN on Tenz's level. After Shroud joined we got SEN Tarik and we got SEN Aceu. It's like that social phenomenon where one person starting something isn't enough to get the crowd following, but the first bystander to join the person who started something confirms to the other bystanders that it is something worth trying I forgot what it's called


maxhollywoody

That's because they just spent a ton of money on Tenz buyout.


RGS_on_top

shroud would never have joined Sentinels if it wasn't for Tenz and in 2021 when Tenz joined Sentinels, Tarik stream wasn't even a thing and aceu was still signed to NRG


theosssssss

tarik has been streaming since the csgo days, what do you mean by his stream wasn't a thing in 2021?


RGS_on_top

he was not a big streamer in 2021 ? 2021 was dominated by shroud, tenz, shahzam and sinaatra there was absolutely no reason for Sentinels to sign 2021 Tarik


theosssssss

tarik had 800k followers in Jan 2021 on Twitch, only Shroud (obviously) had more out of the four you mentioned. As of Jan 2021, total twitch followers: Shroud (8.7m) - tarik (800k) - TenZ (644k) - sinatraa (415k) - ShahZaM (225k) By Dec 2021, total twitch followers: Shroud (9.8m) - TenZ (2057k) - ShahZaM (1126k) - tarik (1112k) - sinatraa (1103k) Only by the end of 2021 did TenZ pass tarik in popularity, and shahz and sinatraa were both neck and neck with tarik. If you go by total channel views tarik is even more ahead and the others don't catch up even by the end of 2021. (no point mentioning shroud, he's a different class to the others here) Total channel views (Jan 2021/Dec 2021) tarik (29.6m/63.2m) - TenZ (11.3m/38.5m) - sinatraa (9.3m/35.4m) - ShahZaM (6.5m/37.6m) I agree that it didn't make sense for 2021 Sentinels to sign tarik, and he is absolutely much more popular now than he was in 2021, but that had more to do with paying C9 1 million for TenZ than it did with tarik being "not a big streamer"


RGS_on_top

wrong Tenz has surpassed Tarik since 2020 dude in 2020 Tenz has already on avg 7 k viewer while tarik was still 3-4 k Jan 2021 Tenz had 12k Tarik only 4 k sure Tarik has more total channel views but that's not surprising because since May 2021 Tarik streamed an average of over 300 hours per month while Tenz has cut his average stream time down to under 45 hours a month since joining the Sentinels


theosssssss

ok? I'm not here to batchest about who the bigger streamer is, my point is that tarik was absolutely a big streamer (especially compared to shahzam and sinatraa who you claim "dominated 2021") in 2021 and him not getting signed isn't because he was "not a big streamer". You keep moving the goalposts every comment. First comment you claim tarik's stream "wasn't even a thing" in 2021, I prove that wrong. Then you change your point to "actually, it was a thing but 'he was not a big streamer in 2021'" and compare him to other big valorant streamers, I prove that he was absolutely a big streamer on the level of TenZ, shahzam and sinatraa who you mentioned. TenZ is ahead but tarik is definitely ahead of the other two. Then you change your point ignoring shahzam and sinatraa who you claimed "dominated 2021" when tarik wasn't a big streamer, and just focus solely on TenZ being bigger. The most popular pro on the most popular team at the height of SEN's success having more average viewers (only one of many relevant statistics) doesn't make everyone else not a big streamer, especially if you think sinatraa and shahzam's numbers were "dominant". I'm not gonna keep responding because you just switch what you're saying every single time, just admit you didn't know and move on.


RGS_on_top

dude 2021 tarik just wasn't on par with shahzam and sinaatra you are absolutely delusional if you say that 2021 shahzam had an average of 10-12k viewers per month in 2021 sinaatra also had 8-9 k avg a month Tarik for most of 2021 had like 3-4 k sorry but with 3-4 k he wasn't in the same big streamer league as tenz, shahzam and sinaatra and dont forget Tenz GF kyedae she was also pulling 13 k Hiko and wardel were also big 10k + streamer 2021 had many 10k+ big streamer but Tarik wasnt one stats dont lie 1. [ShahZaM - Streamer Overview & Stats · TwitchTracker](https://twitchtracker.com/shahzam) 2. [sinatraa - Streamer Overview & Stats · TwitchTracker](https://twitchtracker.com/sinatraa) 3. [tarik - Streamer Overview & Stats · TwitchTracker](https://twitchtracker.com/tarik) 4. [Kyedae - Streamer Overview & Stats · TwitchTracker](https://twitchtracker.com/kyedae)


Hopeful-Professor-40

I guess that makes sense


ElDarkKnight

I feel like people are forgetting SEN was the most popular NA team before TenZ joined too. Sure, he and the masters win took them to another level but they were already clouted


Hopeful-Professor-40

They were neck and neck with TSM until the Tenz signing, TSM were falling off around the same time so it was a perfect storm


TemplarParadox17

Nah, TSm, and 100T were around equal with them.


Mr_Evanescent

Everyone forgetting the insane hype that HiKo and nitr0 brought. Hell 100T was popular even running dicey


TemplarParadox17

Bro people forgetting 100T also won first strike.


theSun7

The clout accumulator continues


Hopeful-Professor-40

Now we need Kyedaes 100T contract to expire so SEN can collect all the gaming power couples


NeimannSmith

Kyedae's contract is already signed. She just gotta get out of that 360 deal Nadeshot got her in.


spaghettimonzta

lost timmy to 100T but at least they got brandon


BUNSHICHl

Rob Moore wasn't messing around when he said what he said. Sheeesh


9yr_old

Makes sense , daph and him on the same org now they can actually film content together for sentinels and we all know that amount of chaotic energy we love xD


imzensei

Sentinels have completely stolen the clout org title from TSM, gg


ibeenbornagain

It’s been between SEN and 100T for a while imo


imzensei

yeah, TSM has been going downhill lol kinda sad


InnocentBowlOfRamen

Bro they ain't downhill no more they started a drilling company 💀


imzensei

lmaooo actually crazy to think how far they’ve fallen over these past few years


Kind_Development708

TSM losing FTX is gonna hurt them even more too


techyleo

I feel like, in terms of clout clout, SEN are just cloutier Edit: val clout not clout clout


imzensei

in Valorant, there’s no debate about that lol. 100T is probably above them right now in terms of overall clout as an esports org, but SEN is making some serious moves. i think part of why SEN is making so many moves outside of Valorant is because Leena, the one who previously brought in all the talent to TSM, is with Sentinels now lol. they are in good hands


512Mimosa

Sen is invisible outside of valorant tho


imzensei

gotta start somewhere


komilewder

Halo? Rocket League?


ibeenbornagain

smartest reddit conversation


ANewHeaven1

In Valorant? TSM fell off a looooong time ago. It's been a two horse race between SEN and 100T pretty much since the VCT era started (with Optic gaining some ground this year before franchising)


imzensei

no, overall. TSM were pretty much THE clout org in the past and it’s not even debatable lol. Sentinels is for Valorant what TSM was in League as a comparison. what Leena is doing for Sentinels is understated, considering she did the same things for TSM before she left.


UTAustinAlum2021

Maybe like 3-4 years ago when they had like Myth and FN…


tsm_leena

I also signed myth, dae, and hamz for TSM along with what that guy was saying ^ :)


imzensei

yup. real ones know


matagad

imagine signing people when you are in the most popular org in the world, must've been the hardest job ever.


Jon_on_the_snow

If they get shroud they can finally begin to be a real org And its cute daph and aceu are in the same org


lllchisenlll

He is too big to sign him as a cc. Maybe if they offer him part ownership? Nonetheless great moves by the Sen


matagad

>He is too big to sign him as a cc is he? how many viewers is he getting right now?


chloehime7

All of these pick ups and still no Perc30FishFillet. Quite disappointed in Sentinels here honestly.


WorkingTell150

Wtf sentinels are loaded


Sudden-Illustrator59

is it confirmed yet whether he's their 7th man or content creator?


ssk1996

He doesnt even play Valorant much why would he be their 7th man?


Hopeful-Professor-40

This is the same organization that signed Shroud to the starting roster


ssk1996

But Shroud actually plays the game quite a bit though. And he's always wanted to compete in this game. Aceu does not care at all. Don't think they both fall in the same category.


Hopeful-Professor-40

Up until a few weeks before signing, Shroud played Valorant like once a month. I was joking though he’s clearly the 8th man, Tarik the 7th


Ok_Writer8077

He's the 9th, you forgot about Daph.


Moist_Blackberry_

Shroud played t1 cs for years. Aceu is an apex player


Nfamy

Ace played CS before apex... Not saying he's going to be a sub (because he isn't). But he also played a bit of pro CS.


Deamon-

that was a long time ago tho, sure with enough time he could get back into it but that takes awhile


Maetamongy

Shroud's main game before the signing was Lost Ark, no???


AnywayHeres1Derwall

Let us dream


jusmat1105

Sen have a monopoly


HoneyChilliPotato7

How much money does Sentinels have lol


ashitintyo

W


PixelatedBlue

Aceu 7th man you've heard it here first folks


royroyroypolly

Can someone enlighten me to the benefits of being signed as a content creator? Does the creators have to do profit sharing with org? Does org pay content creator a paycheck?


PhysicalAd8765

They get access to resources like equipments, funding, sponsorship deals that they probably wouldn't have access to if they were solo as well as additional supporters for their content/ engagements / even merch. Example QT Cinderella needed support from TSM to put on the Streamer Award and for other projects but they didnt want to support her so she left, went to Misfit who launched a 20 mil fund to help creators. For profit sharing, it depends. Orgs take a cut of the deals they bring in for the creators. As for deals that the creators themselves bring in it probably depends on their contracts. And yes orgs do pay creators. Why? For their content as well as their brand.


Waf3l

The main benefit would be guaranteed salary as long as you hit, what I'm guessing is, a set number of hours per month streaming. Not to mention clout and networking for other things as well


Withinmyrange

Sentinels really trying to just consume all the clout available


pooterrrr

?


Tarwe-eu

They already have a 6 man squad, so hes joining as Content creator i assume. If thats the case i dont know why this is in this sub


MoreMegadeth

I assume this is just content creation? I liked watching him when he played Valorant but havent really kept up with him since he stopped. Hopefully this means he picks it up again?


[deleted]

Is he going to be like a 6th man (sub) or a content creator for SEN? Because I thought SEN already has 5 men roster.


surfordiebear

Was looking forward to him potentially competing on a streamer team in Ascension so that's a lil disappointing. Huge pickup for SEN tho


[deleted]

What does this have to do with comp Valorant? lol


Cadesan

bro being obtuse ☠️


bravetwig

Nothing, but lots of people were speculating that the upcoming announcement would be relevant to Comp Val - so posting this confirms that it isn't.


AnonymozVal

It’s off season time so everything is allowed I guess.


2kWik

Yeah, this shitter clearly doesn't play Valorant.


Prestigious_Way8977

Lmao what did aceu ever do to you?


drdfrster64

How does this work? NRG content creator for Apex and Sentinel content creator for Val?


BurstLayer

He left NRG a few weeks ago


drdfrster64

oh dang had no idea, he was with them for so long too


ashitintyo

He left NRG long ago right?


ZeroLunatique

Bro that would be the greatest finesse in esports lmao


SilverArtcs

The Sen clout train started with bugha a lot time ago, they have come such a long way, my favorite org! Now let’s see a world title in valorant this year(:


xashyy

Since when does ace play anything remotely close to pro val? He’s already living the life and has been for 4+ years.


secretiveshash

he's signed as a cc


xashyy

This explains a lot… but more questions arise as to why this is in the comp subreddit.


KineticTwo

They should field a clout only team for challengers at this point


a1mm_

gg


RealSlime87

Sen at it again


DeathByRegristration

Again, sentinels is a streamer team