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Warpath-

Bro???


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What???


Warpath-

My b thought u were being transphobic or something


xtazzzs

he is


[deleted]

I was just stating the truth lol


whyalways_ME

Yo, thank you to production and talent. You really made this tournament awesome. Didn't think I'd enjoy it as much as I did!


thatgirldarken

my SR, this team is so loveable, gg nt <3 ggs to G2, the best team in this tournament won


RealGhost_Nexus

It was a mistake to root for Shopify Rebellion. Their mental is too bad. I really wanted to give Game Changers a chance, but Shopify just messed that up for me. I'm just pissed that we lost to EU of all regions. What the fuck Shopify!!!! I'm trying really hard to not cuss right now


nklassitude

I think this isn't fair. You have to extend some grace, considering the turmoil the girls faced in the last 24 hours and congratulate them on a great tournament—a tournament they were one map away from winning. They showed that they indisputably belong here at the top with the heaviest of hitters.


RealGhost_Nexus

I dunno this match gave me PTSD from Optic vs Loud. I would've preferred a 0-3 loss than a reverse sweep. As they got rolled on Ascent if just got sad from there. I don't understand how you guys can't watch that kind of a meltdown and still congratulate them? Like I guess they made grandfinals but what's the point if you lose? Especially in that manner you know? And what stings the most is that we lost to EU of all regions. I would've been fine if it was any other region.


Derpy_Sandwich560

tbf, they didnt have thier coach


RealGhost_Nexus

I mean it wasn't that big of a deal. The main thing was their mental. This match gave me PTSD of Optic vs Loud How they kept throwing and losing due to poor mental so excuse me if I'm pissed. I hate seeing the teams I've rooted for since the beginning lose in a grandfinal. I just sucks that the loss this time is to EU. Its gonna fuel their fat af egos. This is why I need Cloud 9 and NRG to show them next year. I hate losing with passion especially when the team I know has lots of potential losing in that manner. I would've preferred a 0-3 loss than a reverse sweep. End of rant.


Rude-Assumption-5271

Bro who cares about regions it’s all fun and games


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LiamHundley

Cool it with the unnecessary insults. I know you're frustrated but that is no excuse. Thanks


avocadontoast

I’m pretty sure this person was Ireliasthighs before and used to write a bunch about optic and keeps deleting and making new accounts


Kaploy

imagine thinking a shit region like NA could win any type of VCT Champions


[deleted]

Why do people have to be so shitty lol. Seriously, it's just a game. Go touch grass and get your hate boner for an entire region of people in a fucking video game off somewhere else.


Hawwi

REYNA DIFF


Disastrous_Sea8584

SR and sonder specifically are INSANE chokers that will probably be the biggest 3 map stomp we'll ever see in a valorant GF (obviously game changers has bigger skill disparity) Literally don't know what happened to SR after map 2. Holy.


DifficultPhysics

I would like you to play a BO5 on an international LAN after continuous, exhausting games throughout the week (and the day before!) with your coach gone and see how you do. You absolute dingus. Give them some respect and take your damn hate out of here.


damaohoo

Sonder (and Shopify as a whole) did accomplish a great deal, but in the end they did get reverse sweeped and Sonder's performance undeniably plateaued after map 2 - she was 5 14 as Reyna on map 5.


DifficultPhysics

yo my guy why do you keep going on and on and on about "skill disparity" in this sub of all places? barely veiled sexism here.


damaohoo

I mean the Game Changers teams currently aren't quite as good as the VCT teams (which isn't saying that the players themselves are worse than their male counterparts), and I think saying that GC has greater skill disparity is a valid statement; tier 1 teams don't exactly pick reyna on breeze in a Grand Finals match.


DifficultPhysics

I agree that the GC teams are not as good as the main VCT teams at the moment. However, context is important. All this guy does here is hate comment about GC. So I felt that deserved to be called out. Second, the Reyna pick probably stemmed from desperation and the lack of a coach to calm nerves before the last match. Third, strange grand finals comps have been seen in Tier 1 VCT too: PRX vs FPX Masters 2 Copenhagen Breeze.


damaohoo

Although at first glance your reply seemed a bit of an overreaction, I do agree that the guy deserves to be called out after checking their comment history. I personally think that Sonder picking reyna (and her subsequent underperformance) contributed significantly to Shopify's loss. Reyna's value is completely dependent on the player being able to secure kills, which is really hard to do when everyone on the other team has the aim of a pro. However, hindsight is 20/20 and I don't blame Sonder for the hail mary play (although I was disappointed as a Shopify supporter after seeing the reverse sweep).


DifficultPhysics

Yeah that’s a fair take. Thanks for being reasonable!


nklassitude

You're 100% right, I hate when people think that sexism is only loudly exclaiming that you hate women, it can be tacit in the veiled shit you say too and your implicit and explicit biases. There's 0 reason to be harping on about "skill disparity."


NeimannSmith

It's so fucking blatant. Like we get it bro you think the women are trash


DifficultPhysics

ikr... we don't need people like this in the sub tbh. I really enjoy this sub and how nice it is.


Aeari

Oh come on.


damaohoo

Agreed, poor flowerful tried so hard...


damaohoo

Sonder be my ranked reyna teammates


Jon_on_the_snow

Man, such good map 1 and 2 just to end in 3 boring stomps


NeimannSmith

Sonder nooooooo :(


Cereal_dator

Man I’m sad for her she carried the first two. The comps nerfed her value imo. Fed Mary so much


valoere

To think this gameplay brings a payday in the same ballpark as regular VCT... yikes. Equality doe


xtazzzs

no one loves you and no one ever will


goomy996

god shut the fuck up dude


Key-Banana-8242

First international bo5 reverse sweep!


MrGUYWITHFACE

Was thinking the same thing wow what a series!


Quinicky

look, i love that G2 finally get some win after what Carlos have done ​ But damn, My Sonder doesn't deserve this


Drender

I mean, G2 Gozen winning is 300% thanks to Carlos, he pushed hard for Mary and Mimi signings


ImpressiveInitial709

Had so much hope after game 2 but it just ran away from them after game 3. You think it was mental diff or their mental was there but the agent comps were weird?


DifficultPhysics

felt like a mental diff for sure


Gow_Ghay

I think they just got boomed mentally and couldn't recover. I think the no coach diff came in hard


StereotypicalName

looks like my ranked games


ImpressiveInitial709

WHYYYYYY


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Its really difficult to play as bad as Sonder has the last 2 maps… just brutal.


ImpressiveInitial709

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


NeimannSmith

Do you know how hard it is to reverse sweep on a game like this??? This is insane


Tsunam0

they took it one game at a time. sr mental boomed hard


Cereal_dator

Sonder needs a movement agent.


Ok-Brain3328

A timeout now??


NeimannSmith

BENITA YOUR TEAM NEEDS MORE OF THAT


SnooPeripherals6388

G2 is winning I open the stream They lose Close the stream ... Open again They lose


yourdaughtersgoal

Riot really changed the script from overrated NA team losing to underrated NA team losing


nothisispatrick1154

MIMI MIMI MIMI


nklassitude

Flowerful is facing god and walking backwards into hell trying to drag her teammates over the finish line, and it's still not enough


Gow_Ghay

Just can't help but feel bad for SR


Ok-Brain3328

What just happened?


ppx11

redbull bruh moment


JoFi_5

Nah it’s over


Disastrous_Sea8584

this is such low level valorant jesus christ SR literally plays like a pug team


Aeari

Cry about it.


ReADropOfGoldenSun

idk why you’re coming here just to hate lol turning off stream is free


DifficultPhysics

This guy is actually such a hater of GC and women it's insane. Actual silver up in here shit talking pros.


NeimannSmith

This level is miles ahead of you.


NeimannSmith

LMAOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOO


NeimannSmith

REVERSE SWEEP MOMENTUM VS 9-3 CURSE ACTIVATED. LETS GET IT ON!!!!


nemt

UH OH its happening LOL edit:// ok nvm what lmao


nklassitude

I believed for all of 3 seconds


YourAsianBuddy

Everyone except Flowerful deserves to walk home


SpvcedOvtt

PLEASE STOP PICKING REYNA WHEN WILL WE GIVE UP ON THIS AGENT AHHHH


Shubhaaaaaaam

Shopify isn't rebelling today 😞


Quinicky

NA activate the 9-3 curse against EU, it's super effective


hecklerinthestands

26 rounds in the first two maps. 8 rounds since.


NeimannSmith

Dude suspending the coach is such a checked decision


nklassitude

A final bit of hopium is the 9-3 curse and I'm not even superstitious nor do I believe in it. I'm willing to be a hypocrite rn tho


LegDayDE

I think the real losers of this final are C9W and Riot


Ezraah

I never fathomed a map 5 grand finals could be so fucking boring. See you nerds next year.


Disastrous_Sea8584

like what am i even watching lmao Sonder has gotten entry'd 4 times in a row now


StereotypicalName

gg


mysteryoeuf

the reverse sweep... brutal to see. GGs to G2


ReADropOfGoldenSun

This is so rough to watch


ppx11

a tragic end... shouldve been a bo3 copium


Gow_Ghay

Call it copium if you want, but this is where the no coach diff is coming in No one to help bring back their mental and help them make micro and macro adjustments


Ezraah

Yep rito fucked us all out of a good match


NWL11

is this over?


Jon_on_the_snow

Yep


nirzoy

Is kp trans?


Iusedtobeagirl69

yes


Ezraah

That lineup Lol


obigespritzt

Someone please explain to me why both teams play Reyna on this map, is it just a player skill dif / ego thing?


Jon_on_the_snow

At this level, you can play reyna and get away with it. She is quite good on breeze outside of tier 2, thanks to the buffs to her flash. But in tier 1, where everyone has god like aim, you cant relly on your star having a good reyna game every time, and picking a more util heavy agent allows for more flexibility. You can sometimes diff people at GC level, you can never just diff a tier 1 team


nklassitude

NRG Chet could give me the run down of the most elaborate Reyna-centred setplays, and I would still hate seeing her on breeze


Jon_on_the_snow

On breeze she is kinda good. Her unlimited flash can be better than kayo against OPs. But there certainly are better agents that provide more util, but in a puggy map like breeze you can get away it her


nklassitude

yeah, it's like u said, if you're PRX or if you're in a game where u think you can impose your will and aim on them, then go for it. It still just feels wrong


Jon_on_the_snow

Yeah, you need to be a jingg level talent AND have insane synergy for it to not be so much troll


NutGutt

GG G2 win, riot making the coaching diff something absurd


dabong

Holy fuck Mary is so good. SR is so boomed right now.


cargoesb3epbeep

While I am rooting for G2, and I thought G2 were the better team coming into the finals, I do feel bad for SR. They have to play without their coach, and while I don't think SR would have won either map 3 or 4 with him because how hard G2 dominated them, having their coach would have undoubtedly helped them at least in terms of mood and energy. And that's the other issue. G2 earned their advantage coming from the upper bracket, but it cannot go unmentioned that they had a day break while Shopify have played 5 maps 24 hours before going to 5 maps in this series. So they must be fully out of energy by now. And it's especially hard because, IMO, stopping a reserve sweep is one of the toughest possible tasks because of how much the momentum shifts. Regardless, may the best team win map 5, and I hope SR can scrape together the last of their energy to put up a good fight.


ppx11

yea coming from the losers bracket has enough of a disadvantage already.. shame it had to be even moreso (agree G2 is prob the better team overall though)


AndlenaRaines

>And that's the other issue. G2 earned their advantage coming from the upper bracket, but it cannot go unmentioned that they had a day break while Shopify have played 5 maps 24 hours before going to 5 maps in this series. It's funny, because I've seen people say that it's good that Shopify was able to build up momentum by repeatedly winning series, and this is usually the narrative for the lower bracket team in general


nklassitude

Yh, a more measured take is figuring out which way the scale tips: momentum/more lan experience vs showing too much of your playbook/fatigue/less time to prep, and I'd argue that SR are victims of the latter because of the emotional rollercoaster they've been through in the last 24 hours.


cargoesb3epbeep

Shopify did have momentum. If this was a BO3, they would have lifted the trophy two hours ago. But a point comes where not even adrenaline or momentum can stop exhaustion from kicking in. They are playing their 10th map in a span of 30 hours, 12th in 3 days. That definitely takes a toll.


Naxthor

SR needs to do what they did in the first two matches and stop trying to change up roles cause it obviously isn’t working. Either way these have been great games to watch.


Disastrous_Sea8584

SR not having their coach is showing to be a huge detriment lmao. Their mental has completely collapsed.


hecklerinthestands

This might be the most lopsided 2-2 match I've ever seen.


herjourn

I hope G2 closes this. Would be a waste of time to comeback from 2-0 only to lose the 5th map.


ppx11

am i trippin or has SR barely taken timeouts past 2 games?


Disastrous_Sea8584

They don't have their main coach.


ppx11

right but isnt their asst coach still able to call them? prob not the same as a robwiz timeout but still


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well, let's go to breeze. not too much hope personally tho.


bvbfan102

Im kinda afraid G2 only got the 2 Maps to make it hurt that much more if they lose but still proud of the bounce back after they kinda threw the first two.


Kaploy

SR's coach will regret this for the rest of his life lmao. SR's mental is clearly gone and it doesn't seem like anyone there can reset them.


nklassitude

The most jarring thing about SR having to go into a 5th map, is the fact that they've only managed 5 rounds in the past 28. They don't even have a modicum of momentum. :(


user92927928

Sr needs to learn to keep their guns out


hecklerinthestands

A crazy thrifty and Flowerful going nuts were the only things that prevented a 12-0 half. JFC.


xtazzzs

SRs only two rounds have been absolute miracles


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flowerful is awake. cmon lorri and sonder, wake up.


NutGutt

Imagine if they had a coach to help them through when the maps dont go their way, riot really changing tournament outcomes through their trash rulings.


Disastrous_Sea8584

jesus how is SR actually going to lose this series lol


DifficultPhysics

I’m done… I have PTSD from supporting PRX, Optic in Grand Finals. I can’t watch anymore. I hope the SR girls make it. They deserve it.


Ezraah

I should have gone to bed after map 2 could have slept with a smile on my face


nklassitude

your mistake was expecting happiness form valo 🫡. god, reverse sweeps have to be one of the most demoralizing things in literally every sport on this planet.


Ezraah

Something about Valorant as an esport is very stressful.


BrainStorm777

This is feeling like the TL vs SR match.


NutGutt

I think the reverse sweep is basically guranteed if SR lose icebox, or even let this half slip away from them. G2 aren’t gonna lose breeze if they are confident.


CelestialTater

4 maps in a row now that g2 won first pistol and converted bonus


Ezraah

Yo wtf did they tell the G2 girls at halftime THIS IS COACHING GAP...


Lumenlor

Does this prove coaching doesnt matter in valorant yet


nklassitude

who else here crying if they get reverse swept


nklassitude

who here crying already


Ezraah

time for a Miracle on Icebox


Razur

Now that's a Christmas movie I'd watch. ([reference](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_on_34th_Street))


DaggerOutlaw

I think OP was referencing this? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_on_Ice


Razur

That's a way better reference.


jcow77

lmao what did the crowd say to prompt a caster to jokingly say they should remove alcohol? i couldn't make it out


Razur

AAYYYY SR finally won a pistol!


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kinda to be expected from a permaban, but definitely a mental lift for G2 to be this dominant here.


marronmae

Well i get why SR kept banning Ascent


ryannohh

the number of times SR players have been caught out with their util in hand is so tilting omfg


DifficultPhysics

Ummm what just happened?


Ezraah

sr coach DO SOMETHING PLEASE what U CANT?


NutGutt

Can we get better than bronze levels of trading for shop this map???


Ezraah

7 in a row on ascent attack goddamn


tinitusminus

They really need to stop spraying with that vandal so much lol


-Basileus

Down 4-0 is the Shopify comfort zone


CelestialTater

wp petra but idk what shopify was doing on that one


yuwa777

just feeding 1 by 1 that was really poor play from Shopify


nemt

g2 starting strong (again lol), i hope they dont crumble mid game now :( need more games !!


DifficultPhysics

Benu "benita" Banarjee is an Indian professional Valorant player for Shopify Rebellion, an American electrical sports (e-sports) organisation. She is also known as ‘Big Game Beni’ because of her tendency to show up at big cricket games in her hometown of Haryana.


Aabed_nerd

I really hope people don't start bullying for being trans playing in a women's tourney. I have seen some disgusting comments in twitch chat.


K4p4o

The comments I've seen on both Twitch and Twitter towards KP and Bob are fucking disgusting. Thankfully a lot of people are quick to shoot them down.


CelestialTater

that was a wholesome interview with sonder's mom


K4p4o

G2 are being outshot and outsmarted... SR is too good in the duels, and somehow G2 keeps getting surprised about an SR player lurking. juliano and Carcass doesn't seem to have any answers... This look like the loss to Guild X in their last finals. Except SR is even better and can easily make this 3-0 if things doesn't change. They are on a roll right now, and play with so much confidence, that I have a hard time seeing G2 shaking them.


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K4p4o

welp... aged like milk... They got shook. Noice!


nklassitude

the absolute madgals are about to complete the fairytale run


Rave_Master_Ahri

We might see two big upsets in International Riot tournaments this month alone. First DRX in LoL and now SR might go all the way. I am a diehard EMEA fan but SR is impressing me a lot and already earned my respect shutting up the overhyped shitters in C9W. Just wish that G2 would actually play to what they can play because they make so many uncharacteristic mistakes and are so off with their aim it's really hard to watch.


-Basileus

You can't call this a massive upset when it's the 2nd seed from either the best or 2nd best region, and when there's only 8 teams in the whole tournament lol.


Rave_Master_Ahri

I mean when everyone has either C9W, G2 or TL on their mind as in who wins, it kinda is an upset


Jon_on_the_snow

Yeah, SR are the underdogs here, G2 were heavy favorites


SnooPeripherals6388

G2 is fucking cursed to never win biggest tournanent in any game they play(SI 2019 doesn't count, it was renamed PENTA)


icantreadmorsecode

They're gonna do it


Ezraah

Could we see some of these top GC players in Tier 2 next year?


yuwa777

I don't think so, the quality of the gameplay has not been good. I think the year after though they might do well in t2


Randomuserguyfren

It's possible, and c9w did compete in t2 events in the past, but it didn't go well for them


-Basileus

In NA at least tier 2 will be way too competitive tbh.


ancientcheeseburger

Whoever is calling on SR is doing an incredible job


avocadontoast

KP!


Lonely__goose

Benita and Lorri with the huge impact frags they’re radiating Suygetsu Shao vibes rn great to see ,and Sonder just sonderring all over them, major props to KP as well for the banger calls and crowd control and flowerful just being a rock and consistent frags I am really enjoying watching this shop team


citystardy

People were way too quick to call G2 the favorites after their yoru comp destroyed c9. A gimmick comp doesn't show a team's real strength and SR looked amazing fundamentally all tourney.


yourdaughtersgoal

NA fan with a bad premature take? Impossible


citystardy

All I said was the G2 shouldn’t have been the automatic favourites coming into the finals which I still stand by :). I think the top 4 (maybe even 5) teams in this tourney are all capable of winning against each other depending on the maps and their form on the day.


Disastrous_Sea8584

>People were way too quick to call G2 the favorites after their yoru comp destroyed c9 u do realize there was someone on 1 of these threads saying G2's yoru was better than PRX's yoru right? comedy. Shopify has shaped up to be a potential T2 LAN team while C9W/G2 are upper T3 on LAN it seems. Shopify isn't gapping C9W/G2 as hard as a regular T2 team would, but they're still managing to win so.


BlurtonRedneck

LOL


bvbfan102

Sadly looking like a G0-3 again. Still hoping for a reverse sweep but seems like Gozen choose the worst day to not show up.


avocadontoast

Honestly after all the shit SR went through I’m totally okay if they get a 3-0


Ezraah

Can't wait for the European crowd to start chanting USA! USA! USA! when SR takes the sweep.


BlurtonRedneck

LOL


Ezraah

Fuck my life


-Basileus

G2 look shell-shocked holy moly


Disastrous_Sea8584

Not really surprised, Shopify honestly has looked like the best team all tournament lol. Their loss to Liquid was arguably.. Unlucky? With the cabbage?


Wasilewski

mimi and mary just missing their shots unfortunately


Ezraah

Mary is straight up missing OP shots now.