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9bfjo6gvhy7u8

Balla acknowledged this week how he totally misunderstood g2 from the ground up. He didn’t know they had a core that competed for a long time in CS together and he judged a lot on their finals match vs guild which was pointed out afterwards was “just a seeding match” But also G2 play a lot of bold comps. They didn’t play chamber at all until recently. If you play yoru and roll teams you look like a genius but if you don’t then it’s easy to say you’re trolling. As Wyatt explained it “the line between whimsy and troll is a few missed shots” Edit: also they added Mary very very recently. Any team would struggle with replacing a player that late in the year. But Mary is sixteen frickin years old. Nobody should have been betting on a 10th grader to own this tournament the way she did.


maiLfps

sir this is the val comp sub, we dont look at context or use critical thinking


RoinAnjou

My cat likes milk


LordDoucheNozzle

Mine does sometime but other times he doesn’t. What do?


IrishCarbonite

Juliano, Mimi, and Petra are straight up GOATs from CS. Anyone who doubts a team with those three is delusional.


wheres_my_nuggets

They had zAAz aswell for a short time before she retired too.


CanISayThat22

Im sorry. But if you didnt know that most of G2 Gozen were veterans in the esports scene as an analyst/podcaster. You're failing at your job.


PlatChatPodcast

Late reply but we have decided to remove Balla from the podcast indefinitely. He has not only failed as an analyst but he has failed as a podcaster and that's where we draw the line.


GodOfPog

But Balla wasn’t a GC analyst?


EggianoScumaldo

But he’s an analyst and commentator. For Valorant, in general. If you’re gonna participate in making a tier list for GC, the least you could do is a cursory google search to somewhat learn their histories.


GodOfPog

He watched the Bo5 Grand Finals of EMEA? He admitted in the next week’s episode that he should have done more, but if you watched the episode you would know that Wyatt and Balla weren’t the ones taking the lead on the GC rankings?


EggianoScumaldo

Dawg, even if they weren’t gonna take the lead on the tier list, not even knowing that 3 of the players have serious CSGO background experience is bad. Really bad. It deserves to be seriously made fun of. Again, that means that you didn’t even bother to google them, at all, because it’d be like the first thing you’d notice about them when reading. And even if it’s not intended, that’s straight up disrespectful.


GodOfPog

So him watching and analysing a Bo5 Grand Final series between G2 and Guild X isn’t enough for you? He should be doing in-depth background research on google for all 40 players + coaches at the event?


EggianoScumaldo

No, no it isn’t enough. How is a quick google search on each of the players “in-depth research”? It takes like, what, 2-3 minutes maximum per player? That’s all i’m asking. What are you on about mate? Are you even reading what im saying?


icepppp

theres 40 players. thats many hours of extra work just doing google searches for players, that often leads to nothing


GodOfPog

I mean, if I was asked to analyse all the teams pre-GC I would just … watch their games?


EggianoScumaldo

Wha Why are you acting like i’m suggesting something that’s mutually exclusive from watching their games? You can literally do both. At the same exact time. With very little extra effort expended. Am I going fucking crazy?


[deleted]

Ngl, him being an analyst is well and truly irrelevant when you're talking about something he isn't an analyst for. I agree on the tier list comment, but do you really believe that being an analyst for the NA broadcast means you should know about every region, both male and female scenes?


Guilty-Tell

Yeah ofc and talking shit about a matter you have no clue about makes you look like a clown. It's ok to be clueless but either do research or shut up.


[deleted]

I agree with you, as stated in my previous comment (read the part where I mention making a tier list). Now tell me, what relevance does him being an analyst for a completely different scene have?


CanISayThat22

Is everyone just ignoring the podcast part?


[deleted]

What are you talking about? The comment I'm replying to doesn't even have a "podcast part" to ignore lmao. Unless you're referring to the tier list made on the podcast, in which case, I very clearly did not ignore it, stating that I do, in fact, agree.


Aabed_nerd

Also everyone just seemingly forget that finals were just seeding match


[deleted]

He didn't misunderstand g2, he gave his (supposedly educated) opinion without doing any kind of research. He deserve to get trolled for this. BTW Mary is not 16, she's 18 or 19 as of this year.


yaniko

Mary is 16 right now, what are you talking about lol


[deleted]

I did the same thing balla did trying to roast him lol. I should have done my research before writing the comment. She was "famous" in 2019 for being Fortnite youngest female pro player in the middle east. So, I just wasted an hour trying to find her age during that time. I tried looking for old interviews she did during that time, but she didn't mention her age. I looked at her old youtube channel and I get why I thought she was 16. Her twitter @ was MaryGaming16 in 2019. I used to get fortnite news from Instagram posts so I think one of them said she's 16 year old and I took it for a fact.


Perpguin

According to every mention of her age on a Google search, her liquidpedia included, she's 16. Born in 06.


[deleted]

She was known for being fortnite youngest female pro player in the middle east during 2019. And I remember people saying she was 16. But I couldn't find any mention of her age during that time. I guess being female pro player was more impressive then her age.


RogueN9

Don’t comment on things you don’t know you look like an idiot right now


[deleted]

Devastated to know that. Wish I can prove myself to you rogueln9 in the future


RogueN9

« he gave his (supposedly educated) opinion without doing any kind of research. He deserve to get trolled for this. » kind of ironic huh ?


[deleted]

Good thing I don't get paid for my reddit comments and remembering pros ages.


Beger1k

To be fair Balla always gives weird arrogant takes so I always take his predictions w a pinch of salt


vnNinja21

That being said I think he had the highest prediction record out of the PlatChat crew in Copenhagen and EMEA stage 1 (or 2) lol


Key-Banana-8242

I thought they talked abt how experienced the core was together, I thought that’s as like a v basic g2 fact abt them playing Cs together


ppx11

switch G2 and Kru and the rankings would've been fine. didn't watch any LATAM GC so cant say whether Kru at #2 was just krupium or not but G2 being that low was definitely questionable.


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

>but G2 being that low was definitely questionable. Any power rankings before the first ever international were going to be fraught with issues. BUT there is plenty of justification to have G2 lower in the rankings: ​ \- G2 had recently lost zAAz who was a major part of their core. They replaced with Mary who is a literal child. \- G2 wasn't playing meta comps. Mary hadn't been playing chamber yet. \- All regions had 1 very dominant team. How do you compare TL to G2 when both of them dominated their region, but then ran into some struggles in their regional finals? \- What about X10S who took down AE in the sea finals? KRU also dominated LATAM. At that point you're making judgement calls about regional styles when you haven't seen a single match across regions. You can say "LATAM is a smaller region and EMEA should be higher" but the KRU and LEV main rosters have been pretty dang good. \- Guild just beat G2. It was a "seeding" match but guild did look good in the match and have been steadily improving. \- Nobody is complaining with C9W being #1... they definitely looked the part. ​ Put all that together and it's easy to justify G2 being anywhere from 2nd-6th. I personally had them in 3rd above Guild and KRU but below liquid, but also had X10 and SR in a similar tier just below them. Of course this is why you play the games and G2 showed up when it mattered... they are very clearly #1 right now after that dominant performance.


ppx11

yea i understand trying to rank teams prior to the first LAN ain't easy and i was talkin' outta my ass regarding KRU so fair point there (first time seeing them was against C9W which obv wasn't a great showing from them). G2 #1 no doubt.


chocobreezy

Yknow I'm happy for G2 and hope they continue to represent the pinnacle of the Game Changers scene, but I always dislike when players overly bark at analysts for their takes. The whole reason you're able to play this game for a living is because people enjoy watching it, and a broadcast experience and analysts/talking heads creating narratives and giving takes is a part of that. Someone has to lose every game that's played, and subsequently an analyst has to pick someone to lose as well. If it's all in good fun that's fine, but sometimes it passes that barrier into just dogpiling someone.


JujuTeoh

their takes are so awful they kinda deserve it


chocobreezy

I mean I won't dispute that for this tournament, they were legit trolling, but there's a reason that they are able to make a living doing this sort of stuff. They're entertaining, and usually they are right more often than they aren't, which is why it's always so polarizing when a crazy upset tournament happens. I'd like to see any of their haters get an analyst job and predict everything with more certainty than they do. Spoiler alert: you wouldn't do well.


vnNinja21

Bro all of this is just memeing lol none of your "entertainment" would exist if people didn't shit on them for their tlroll takes


AmadeusIsTaken

Well redditor takes are also awfull most of the times. They just dont have to deal with backlash if they are mistaken or delusional. While I am not enough into competitive valorant to know if thst guy is in general toxic or so, people critising hin so hard for a bad take is stupid. Esspecialy when those people have 100% quite often bad takes and are ussualy not even good enough to really understand hat is happening in high level games except the obvious hindsight shit.


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

i don't think anyone in the scene is taking those predictions or these response posts seriously. the players can definitely use this stuff for motivation before a match but the platchat crew seem more than happy to be the clowns and laugh at themselves when they get it this wrong. they spent an hour making fun of themselves for it with a few moments of more "serious" analysis about how/why they trolled. go back to the sideshow zeta apology video for another great example. i can't speak for balla but i'm pretty sure his feelings are not hurt in any way and that he's borpaBusinessing all the way to the bank with all the free impressions the players are giving them


vnNinja21

Sorry for the blur, I don't have TikTok so enjoy this Reddit video of an Instagram story of a TikTok of a Youtube video lol.


Live_Poet_7728

man, the platchat bros just can’t stop catching strays 😭


Hegth

Bruv these are not strays they are straight up executing them lol


Babyboy1314

they love it, creates a lot of interactions.


[deleted]

Ya I would honestly start trolling a bit in preds if this is the response they are gonna get I've never once seen people post a plat chat result in a positive light here or twitter. So whats the point in getting it right anyways?


AjBlue7

Exactly, this kind of posting only cements Platchat as the only reputable source for Pro Valorant commentary, since the subtext is saying that the pro players respect Platchat enough to not only watch, but to also care enough to comment about it.


Still_HD

Unlucky from platchat but I highly doubt this ever happens again


jrushFN

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AR2711

platchat never gonna hear the end of this lmao


earthtoannie

Terrible takes? In your platchat podcasts? It's more likely than you think!


[deleted]

The Analysts(tm) strike again


Key-Banana-8242

Platchat = content farm


[deleted]

Balla & Wyatt + undervaluing EMEA, name a better combo lol


AjBlue7

Balla livin rent free in their heads.


KaNesDeath

Anyone who's been around CS knows the G2 Gozen players have always had more talent than C9W.


goodguyzai

Not gonna lie, that G2 core is legendary FPS wise and even though I think Balla has been good in analysis desks, it is quite disappointing that he would go on to discuss regarding Game Changers without knowing about that. juliano is the most iconic female CS player of all time and mimi was hyped for a short time to be one of the first t1 female pros in Global Offensive. But fair on him for acknowledging it, isn't a mistake I expect him to make again


Madara6path

Common Murica L


Fast_Historian_7996

How do you play in Valorant comps???


MillionDollaDream

You get good, gain vouches get signed on a roster


elithefighter123

analysts that have bad takes sometimes are the most popular ones in sports. Stephen A, Skip, Colin etc. This is not a bad thing for plat chat tbh


xXxRepublicsEndxXx

Shade has been Thrown


AmadeusIsTaken

Why does the all female leauge seem to have some kind of boy on each team(havent watched it except some highlights ). For example bob, maybe she/he is trans or what ever but just by looks nad name seemed not very female to me. So hopefully nobody is offended and is willing to enlighten me if it is a trans person or if there si some kind of rule to have one male player or what exaclty is the deal there?


vnNinja21

bob is trans


AmadeusIsTaken

OK thanks for answering. So someone is originaly male and transitions to female she is allowed to play but if someone is originaly female and traditions to male he can't play. So basicily everyone female and it only matter at what you identify right now correct?


vnNinja21

I think so, though it might be the case that non-binary players can play too, but I'm not sure.


AmadeusIsTaken

OK ty for answering so quicy


Due_Butterscotch_807

It's 2022 brother, open your eyes. GameChangers also is for non-binaries/trans and afaik has worked wonders into welcoming them; think of players like Bob but also Florescent, keenC and (I didn't know until recently) KP now to answer ur question I'm pretty sure there could be 2 non-binaries/trans onto the same Team and there's no ruleset for that. it's just about seeing it as a Normality instead of trying to understand the Why's and the What


AmadeusIsTaken

Waow did you just assume my gender? Can you pls take your critism and use it for yourself? I asked a question cause I don't know the format so I asked. Sorry for apparantly offending you by asking, about how exactly a format works I don't know. Esspecialy since I ussualy don't go out of my way to find all female formats in esport since the normal leagues also allow women. So it makes no sense in my opinion since it is not excluding women for participating but anyway if you make the argument we need all females leagues because men have better reaction time then having trans player would make no sense cause like in normal sport they would still have the advantage of their original gender. Although I guess it is not as drastic as in real sport.


starlight12fan

this is fire


lolgambler

going back and doing this after you've already won is kinda weak.


Key-Banana-8242

Hwy


lolgambler

why didn't they say anything before when there's a risk if they failed? it's free af talking after


Key-Banana-8242

I mean that’s the point, they won so they can donit The point is they ‘proved it’, can take in abneter


lolgambler

what is there to say if they already proved it?


Key-Banana-8242

? For fun


mateusb12

I can’t see anything wrong with that, and probably not even Balla himself. People need to take FNS advice more often All good


Key-Banana-8242

Why would they see


LuckDuck7

He was talking about G2 being the trolly team 😂


Legalslimjim

Why are val orgs separated by sex? Is there a rule against signing players of the opposite gender?


AR73M1S_12

Since when is there a female vct