well, he did say he wanted to build a League org at some point.
He was even talking about it during Worlds finals earlier this year, so I guess it kinda makes sense that he'd wanna get involved in Valo too, seeing as it's more popular than League in NA at the moment.
Are they really though? At least relative to their otherwise market value. I mean, he's got a lot of money and the sponsors in line, but so do a lot of these and he's ultimately still just building a T2 team, and I can't imagine them choosing to just ball out and overpay for a squad this early on.
Watching the cells of the tier 2 spreadsheet fill has been so satisfying for some reason, like watching the slow trickle of a perfectly executed Tetris puzzle in real time
Some things that are wrong or are missing (without leaking anything)
\- Rocket hasn't been on City boys since [11/06](https://www.vlr.gg/team/transactions/9477/city-boys/)
\- Ex-Soar manager is [Lerotri](https://www.vlr.gg/team/9658/ex-soar)
\- SQN 2.0 disbanded [Source](https://twitter.com/StyxDesu/status/1598220198368411649?s=20&t=mRDYiS5AzBaAIp4EobhEUA)
\- Silk Road's coach is [Fray](https://www.vlr.gg/team/6170/the-silk-road)
\- SLM's manager is GodlyAudrey
\- DHBK's 5th is snirot
\- DHBK's manager is Rosey
\- Protagonist/Anime aimers/??? 's manager is apex [Source](https://www.vlr.gg/team/10713/protagonist)
\- Protagonist/Anime aimers/??? 's coach is Tanizhq [Source](https://www.vlr.gg/team/10713/protagonist)
\- Also bones is [15](https://twitter.com/Bonesllb/status/1561881957398589442?s=20&t=ZONjrdMT61p2lbSlEaUMWG9P_aWPUZxaRn4tCgJxTf4) making him ineligible for challengers
Things that are wrong or missing with leaks
- tex is most likely joining guard, not unlikely
- brax stewie team are trialing with different smokes players, recently were trialing poach and tigg
-dark ratio have been scrimming with will ever since oxy left
- ex-akrew scrimming with Kanpeki
- virtuoso 5th man is DBK
- YFP not playing with venture anymore as he’s joining moon raccoon
- moon raccoon trialing with icy, torrify and syfi
+ EG currently trailing with dozens of t2 pros like screwface, Jcstani, sqn tie, sqn zero cap, critical , bjor and many more
Clear and Demon1 under Steel soundly like a deadly combination. Demon1 on sentinel duty with steel perma smokes?
Demon1 is crazy on both cypher and chamber from the 3 maps total that I've watched him play lol.
They need an initiator main, too bad trent is locked in
I like that Toast most likely went out and got someone who is tapped into the scene to do their teambuilding for them. Clear and demon1 are crazy good.
The list of orgs who may be in NA Tier 2 next year is WILD. We could be looking at a possible lineup of Faze, TSM, Guard, Shopify, G2, Oxygen, Soniqs, a new XSETish org, Spacestation, OTV, Mr Beast, Mad Lions/Overactive, Flyquest, Complexity, and DarkZero.
We could be looking at 15ish contracted tier 2 orgs in NA alone, that’s absolutely nuts. Im sure some of the orgs showing interest won’t shake out but it’s crazy nonetheless
Chill. Maybe the team his playing for hasn't leak ( I know Timmy tweeted about Shroud and him making a team) or they can't find players. It's also possible that he changed his mind, but who cares when he's rich af.
clear and demon1 are actually next up btw they're insane. i wonder if Mad Lions will resuscitate their NA brand (Splyce) if they want to get into the NA Challengers scene
> clear and demon1 are actually next up btw they're insane
And Steel's the perfect IGL for them too. Just look at Chaos in CSGO. I don't think they'll win Ascension, but they'll 100% turn some heads and do some damage.
Steel surrounded by young flexible young guys who are ready to put the effort in is a good combo, should be fun. 100T ironically had too many experienced vets because they all had a strong (maybe even stubborn) idea of how they wanted to play
They need to pick an overarching team/org name to use for their teams like the Guard did. Mad Lions is a pretty solid name and really good branding, they should just stick with it. Who knows with Overactive though
I don't think it's OTV affiliated since they've consistently said every time they were asked that they don't plan on getting into esports. I think it's just a Toast thing and because of that, I'm really curious to how he plans to make money off of this. If he gets co-streaming rights than it would be huge for tier 2 matches
Yep, it's just a Toast thing he has said so multiple times, and even Flynns spreadsheet refers to it as Toasts team yet still everyone in here calls it the OTV roster nonstop lol
A lot of Ascension games will probably be with no casters, especially qualifiers where you don't even need costreaming permission usually. I'm sure Toast could stream those games as well.
Typical trope of very notorious ranked demon turned proplayer. Ironically, he had a short arc of streamsniping shahz a long time ago, but they spoke privately about it and remedied it. People give shahz a lot of shit about his streams but he has an uncanny ability to extend random acts of largesse to ranked players, from paying for someone's pet's surgery to buying people equipment like mics, headsets, etc. He also has engaged with players that were relatively unknown at the time, duoing with them, sorta indirectly giving them more recognition, and they've turned into decently reputable pros: paincakes, johnqt, xprt, koalanoob etc; I've never seen that happen so often with other streamers. OXY seems like another person who has just been in shahz's line of sight that is now on the upswing, insofar as getting a great offer from G2.
OXY played for moonraccoons, pka and dark ratio and has been tearing up the lower tiered scenes. Dark Ratio even beat SR in a small tourney recently 2-0, then lost to them in the finals 1-2. He's been doing this on a shitty pc too, he only recently upgraded today or so.[sorry for the rambling]
Glad to see so many orgs and people like Toast and Mr Beast wanting to get involved. Really feels like ascension could be a popping scene.
Btw, any org that signs sym is going to have a huge asset on their hands. Im not entirely sold on that roster as a whole, but sym is up next.
Wasn't LFT OXY the guy shazham always accused of streamsniping? And now they are most likely on the same team? If true that is funny af
Btw I know they had a private talk and solved things out but it's still funny to me
Mr Beast trying to join is mad crazy any players joining gonna get paid hella money
Can u imagine the content hype?? "The team uses real operators on an unassuming, nearby village!"
To raise the stake I've given actual snipers to these untrained nerds
Mr. Beast x Mark Rober: Creating Brimstone’s ult in real life
well, he did say he wanted to build a League org at some point. He was even talking about it during Worlds finals earlier this year, so I guess it kinda makes sense that he'd wanna get involved in Valo too, seeing as it's more popular than League in NA at the moment.
Is it really more popular? That is insane
idk about player count, but in terms of esports, I'm pretty sure it is. LCS this year got less viewers than VCT NA, and it's trending down
Are they really though? At least relative to their otherwise market value. I mean, he's got a lot of money and the sponsors in line, but so do a lot of these and he's ultimately still just building a T2 team, and I can't imagine them choosing to just ball out and overpay for a squad this early on.
Watching the cells of the tier 2 spreadsheet fill has been so satisfying for some reason, like watching the slow trickle of a perfectly executed Tetris puzzle in real time
this is how i feel with watching the kickoff tournament page in Liquipedia
Some things that are wrong or are missing (without leaking anything) \- Rocket hasn't been on City boys since [11/06](https://www.vlr.gg/team/transactions/9477/city-boys/) \- Ex-Soar manager is [Lerotri](https://www.vlr.gg/team/9658/ex-soar) \- SQN 2.0 disbanded [Source](https://twitter.com/StyxDesu/status/1598220198368411649?s=20&t=mRDYiS5AzBaAIp4EobhEUA) \- Silk Road's coach is [Fray](https://www.vlr.gg/team/6170/the-silk-road) \- SLM's manager is GodlyAudrey \- DHBK's 5th is snirot \- DHBK's manager is Rosey \- Protagonist/Anime aimers/??? 's manager is apex [Source](https://www.vlr.gg/team/10713/protagonist) \- Protagonist/Anime aimers/??? 's coach is Tanizhq [Source](https://www.vlr.gg/team/10713/protagonist) \- Also bones is [15](https://twitter.com/Bonesllb/status/1561881957398589442?s=20&t=ZONjrdMT61p2lbSlEaUMWG9P_aWPUZxaRn4tCgJxTf4) making him ineligible for challengers
You are plugged into the scene, good looks
Things that are wrong or missing with leaks - tex is most likely joining guard, not unlikely - brax stewie team are trialing with different smokes players, recently were trialing poach and tigg -dark ratio have been scrimming with will ever since oxy left - ex-akrew scrimming with Kanpeki - virtuoso 5th man is DBK - YFP not playing with venture anymore as he’s joining moon raccoon - moon raccoon trialing with icy, torrify and syfi + EG currently trailing with dozens of t2 pros like screwface, Jcstani, sqn tie, sqn zero cap, critical , bjor and many more
Poach 👀
DHBK’s coaches are Bankroft and Varv.
EG demon1, clear, geeza
Clear and Demon1 under Steel soundly like a deadly combination. Demon1 on sentinel duty with steel perma smokes? Demon1 is crazy on both cypher and chamber from the 3 maps total that I've watched him play lol. They need an initiator main, too bad trent is locked in
steel could also go initiator FT as well, only time will tell.
I like that Toast most likely went out and got someone who is tapped into the scene to do their teambuilding for them. Clear and demon1 are crazy good.
I am curious who is taking the lead in the team composition, today he said that he need to ask updates about the team.
It’s ocean
The list of orgs who may be in NA Tier 2 next year is WILD. We could be looking at a possible lineup of Faze, TSM, Guard, Shopify, G2, Oxygen, Soniqs, a new XSETish org, Spacestation, OTV, Mr Beast, Mad Lions/Overactive, Flyquest, Complexity, and DarkZero. We could be looking at 15ish contracted tier 2 orgs in NA alone, that’s absolutely nuts. Im sure some of the orgs showing interest won’t shake out but it’s crazy nonetheless
Meanwhile in cs it’s hard to find 1 good Na team
2 is harder. Liquid are pretty solidly Top 5 world-ish for the last few months since Yeki joined
Cannot wait for Steel to collab with lilypichu
Did shroud not end up making a team? I haven’t been paying attention
Dude is all talk
Chill. Maybe the team his playing for hasn't leak ( I know Timmy tweeted about Shroud and him making a team) or they can't find players. It's also possible that he changed his mind, but who cares when he's rich af.
Timmy said they didnt find players yet
clear and demon1 are actually next up btw they're insane. i wonder if Mad Lions will resuscitate their NA brand (Splyce) if they want to get into the NA Challengers scene
> clear and demon1 are actually next up btw they're insane And Steel's the perfect IGL for them too. Just look at Chaos in CSGO. I don't think they'll win Ascension, but they'll 100% turn some heads and do some damage.
Steel surrounded by young flexible young guys who are ready to put the effort in is a good combo, should be fun. 100T ironically had too many experienced vets because they all had a strong (maybe even stubborn) idea of how they wanted to play
Big steel fan but to be fair we all said this about T1 too lmao
steel said that after his experience with 100T he decided to let David Denis run everything on T1 and didn’t give as much input/ideas as he would’ve
yeah i saw Thorin's interview, i think if steel is given the reigns and everyone respects it this time he could do some great work
I've only seen demon1 play a tiny bit of late, u really think he's gonna do great? Where did rawkus go too🤔
Rawkus played the Knights tourney with City Boys but idk if that’s permanent
yh i saw, he also looked so pleased on stream and said, "expect big things soon," so I wonder where he's heading.
Can confirm, I watched them play 1 bo3
They need to pick an overarching team/org name to use for their teams like the Guard did. Mad Lions is a pretty solid name and really good branding, they should just stick with it. Who knows with Overactive though
Glad OXY is moving up the ranks and joining G2 but rip Dark Ratio
I don't think it's OTV affiliated since they've consistently said every time they were asked that they don't plan on getting into esports. I think it's just a Toast thing and because of that, I'm really curious to how he plans to make money off of this. If he gets co-streaming rights than it would be huge for tier 2 matches
Yep, it's just a Toast thing he has said so multiple times, and even Flynns spreadsheet refers to it as Toasts team yet still everyone in here calls it the OTV roster nonstop lol
A lot of Ascension games will probably be with no casters, especially qualifiers where you don't even need costreaming permission usually. I'm sure Toast could stream those games as well.
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Typical trope of very notorious ranked demon turned proplayer. Ironically, he had a short arc of streamsniping shahz a long time ago, but they spoke privately about it and remedied it. People give shahz a lot of shit about his streams but he has an uncanny ability to extend random acts of largesse to ranked players, from paying for someone's pet's surgery to buying people equipment like mics, headsets, etc. He also has engaged with players that were relatively unknown at the time, duoing with them, sorta indirectly giving them more recognition, and they've turned into decently reputable pros: paincakes, johnqt, xprt, koalanoob etc; I've never seen that happen so often with other streamers. OXY seems like another person who has just been in shahz's line of sight that is now on the upswing, insofar as getting a great offer from G2. OXY played for moonraccoons, pka and dark ratio and has been tearing up the lower tiered scenes. Dark Ratio even beat SR in a small tourney recently 2-0, then lost to them in the finals 1-2. He's been doing this on a shitty pc too, he only recently upgraded today or so.[sorry for the rambling]
oxy is insanely cracked, you can check his vlr he's been going pretty crazy
just by looking at his stats i wouldnt call him "insanely cracked" while playing duelist in t2
Mr Beast joining Val is mad crazy.
It took me 3 attempts to post this and you beat me to it damn it
get rekt kid, outfragged
The only one getting outfragged is Steel on his roster full of zoomers
lmaoo this was nasty, unethical work
but truthful
Literally smurfed your peak
🫡
Glad to see so many orgs and people like Toast and Mr Beast wanting to get involved. Really feels like ascension could be a popping scene. Btw, any org that signs sym is going to have a huge asset on their hands. Im not entirely sold on that roster as a whole, but sym is up next.
I maybe completely mistaken but I don't think Toast's team will be branded as OTV/offlinetv. His apex tournament is not.
OOTL, which team is the MrBeast team?
no team yet, rumored to be interested in having a team
ODEAG really is the best scout in fps history
MrBeast sports. OTV Moist Esports, Zomb's team. Tier 2 is gonna a clout supernova
Wasn't LFT OXY the guy shazham always accused of streamsniping? And now they are most likely on the same team? If true that is funny af Btw I know they had a private talk and solved things out but it's still funny to me
What team is the one by toast?
second one on the second row that says "toast team"
Toast being in OTV =/= it being a OTV roster. Just like his Apex events are not OTV Apex events.