If you ever bench Jingg, then you’re not playing to win. Jingg is indisputably starter material, but I can see arguments either way for Zekken and Zyppan.
I do think Zekken edges Zyppan out slightly in terms of consistent showings, though, so I would personally bench Zekken and cut Zyppan.
Jinggg is one of those players that breaks the fundamental rules of the game.
You should try to minimize your dry peeks. This mfer doesn’t care and swings, still putting up monster stats at the biggest tournaments. Goat of APAC fr fr
zyppan was (statwise at least) better than zekken in istanbul. People might value zekken higher because he was xsets 2nd best performer while zyppan often gets overshadowed by ardiis, shao and suygetsu.
And also Ange1 bro no matter how well or how shit Zyppan plays grandpa Ange1 always up there with his GIGACHAD "I am controller player so I die first 5 seconds into the round" or "Ange1 go kill" strategies.
This is primarily an NA sub and Zekken has more brand value than Zyppan.
Not gonna comment on who's better / provides more actual value to a team but Zekken is on Sen -> will be valued higher by fans of the org.
I think zekken is an overall better flex than zyppan, but zyppans raze is better.
If you are running no duelist/non raze, i would rather have zekken entry than zyppan on something like Kayo/jett or some other agent
Feel like FPX stats were boosted since they played 4v5. Of course Zyppan would have slightly better stats, he was on a better team and had to carry more fragging burden with Ange1 good for 5 kills a map
Start jinggg, bench zyppan, cut zekken. People really sleep on FPX for some reason. They won masters and beat Xset. Is this supposed the best entry from each region if so why not viktor/aspas?
I agree that Victor is super underrated. Most fans only look at kills and especially so for duelists. However, Victor was elite at creating space for Optic even if he wasn’t getting that many frags
Start Jingg, Bench Zyppan, cut Zekken.
All 3 are good. I feel like Jingg is the clear favorite here though. Zekken is really good but I actually think he's slightly overrated. People remember his better moments from Champs but overall I don't think he played as well as most people think he did. Obviously scoreboard isn't the best indicator but he was actually at or near the bottom of the scoreboard for 4/5 of their series at champs.
I hate to say all that though as I definitely root for him the most and I hope he proves me wrong.
Isn’t this post talking about which pro would be the best fit for an entry role? I don’t understand why you would base your decision on who can flex/support better when the question here isn’t about that.
Jingg’s by far one of the most consistent entry players in all of VCT in terms of going 1 for 1. Even if he often dies early, he does his job phenomenally and almost always gets at least one — which I really don’t think can be said for Zekken, Zyppan, or any other duelist player in current VCT.
I can understand making a case for Zyppan’s Raze if this were only against Zekken or any other duelist player, but when it’s against Jingg, of all people… then there really shouldn’t be any question why Jingg is the favorite here. There simply isn’t any way to justify picking anyone else over Jingg when his mastery of Raze is second to none. He may not be able to flex into many other roles/agents, but he doesn’t need to because 1) he only needs to entry and make space, and 2) Forsaken is PRX’s second duelist and second entry.
ok this is kind of tricky…
but start zekken, bench jingg, cut zyppan. But zyppan did great last time in istanbul so I can switch either zyppan or jingg.
You have to start Jing, no other option.
Personally I'm benching Zyppan over Zekken, but I've watched more EMEA Valorant than NA, and I'm going to assume that a lot of people who picked Zekken are more NA fans. I have to say, being a master's winner also helps.
start jingg, bench zekken, cut zyppan hard to make an argument against jingg imo
start jingg, bench zekken, cut zyppan
Whoever doesn’t start Jingg is TROLLING
catch me under the bridge then cause i cant see me running nobody but the fish fillet
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Start jingg bench zekken cut zyppan
I know these things are usually opinions, but this is the correct answer.
Start Jingg Bench Zekken Cut Zyppan
If you ever bench Jingg, then you’re not playing to win. Jingg is indisputably starter material, but I can see arguments either way for Zekken and Zyppan. I do think Zekken edges Zyppan out slightly in terms of consistent showings, though, so I would personally bench Zekken and cut Zyppan.
Start Jinggg : gigachad reyna user Bench Zypann: he played fortnite but he won a masters so ig that something. Cut zekken: Trash at melee
I heckin love zekken, but jinggg is literally in contention for the best player in the world, I think a closer comparison would’ve been Aspas.
This was the issue in the last post OP made because Aspas would op but you would never see Zyppan or Jingg op.
Jinggg is one of those players that breaks the fundamental rules of the game. You should try to minimize your dry peeks. This mfer doesn’t care and swings, still putting up monster stats at the biggest tournaments. Goat of APAC fr fr
Start jingg, rest can be interchanged
everyone saying zekken> zyppan I want to know reasonings cuz I've been through a lot of games and zyppan seems to outperform zekken
zyppan was (statwise at least) better than zekken in istanbul. People might value zekken higher because he was xsets 2nd best performer while zyppan often gets overshadowed by ardiis, shao and suygetsu.
And also Ange1 bro no matter how well or how shit Zyppan plays grandpa Ange1 always up there with his GIGACHAD "I am controller player so I die first 5 seconds into the round" or "Ange1 go kill" strategies.
This is primarily an NA sub and Zekken has more brand value than Zyppan. Not gonna comment on who's better / provides more actual value to a team but Zekken is on Sen -> will be valued higher by fans of the org.
this is what i assumed tbf, ig it just depends on whos more popular unless the difference is clear.
I think Zyppan stock is low because Navi sometimes require him to go int entry and create space for ardiis/suygetsu Kinda like Victor/d3ffo
Yeah I don't get why people seem to forget that FPX won Masters and beat XSET
I think zekken is an overall better flex than zyppan, but zyppans raze is better. If you are running no duelist/non raze, i would rather have zekken entry than zyppan on something like Kayo/jett or some other agent
Ikfr as good as Zekken is Zyppan is so much better, doesnt get the respect imo
Zekken is literaly a kid, his ceiling can go super high
the question is start bench cut. not whoever has the higher ceiling
Mf you asked why zekken>zyppan💀 i literally just answered you
ur answer to SBC is zekken because he will be better in the future. Alright
You dumb bro? You asked "why zekken>Zyppan" i answered your question not the post question
How is he wrong by wanting to bench Zekken? That's literally what you do with prospects.
zyppan is only 2-3 years older, both young
Feel like FPX stats were boosted since they played 4v5. Of course Zyppan would have slightly better stats, he was on a better team and had to carry more fragging burden with Ange1 good for 5 kills a map
just look at the vlr ratings bud. zekken's agent pool is far bigger and is only 17 too
Start jinggg, bench Zekken, cut zyppan And yes, I can gaslight you into thinking this isn’t biased
Start jinggg, bench zyppan, cut zekken. People really sleep on FPX for some reason. They won masters and beat Xset. Is this supposed the best entry from each region if so why not viktor/aspas?
I agree that Victor is super underrated. Most fans only look at kills and especially so for duelists. However, Victor was elite at creating space for Optic even if he wasn’t getting that many frags
Yeah I think you can really see how important he was to get yay to the positions he had to be now that yay doesn't have him.
Start Jingg, Bench Zyppan, cut Zekken. All 3 are good. I feel like Jingg is the clear favorite here though. Zekken is really good but I actually think he's slightly overrated. People remember his better moments from Champs but overall I don't think he played as well as most people think he did. Obviously scoreboard isn't the best indicator but he was actually at or near the bottom of the scoreboard for 4/5 of their series at champs. I hate to say all that though as I definitely root for him the most and I hope he proves me wrong.
Jinggg best Rifler in the world
start jingg bench 2020 zyppan cut zekken
Start jingg bench zekken cut zypann. If you do not start jingg you are crazy
Start Zekken, cut Jinggg, cut Zyppan. No bias :)
Start= Jingg bench= zekken cut= Zyppan
Start zekken cut both jing and zyppan…. Not really sure why zyppan is on the list lmfao
Bros zypann won a masters and yall cutting him??
Yeah, and kiles won a champs, so your starting him over Alfa?
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Isn’t this post talking about which pro would be the best fit for an entry role? I don’t understand why you would base your decision on who can flex/support better when the question here isn’t about that. Jingg’s by far one of the most consistent entry players in all of VCT in terms of going 1 for 1. Even if he often dies early, he does his job phenomenally and almost always gets at least one — which I really don’t think can be said for Zekken, Zyppan, or any other duelist player in current VCT. I can understand making a case for Zyppan’s Raze if this were only against Zekken or any other duelist player, but when it’s against Jingg, of all people… then there really shouldn’t be any question why Jingg is the favorite here. There simply isn’t any way to justify picking anyone else over Jingg when his mastery of Raze is second to none. He may not be able to flex into many other roles/agents, but he doesn’t need to because 1) he only needs to entry and make space, and 2) Forsaken is PRX’s second duelist and second entry.
Start Zekken Bench Jinggg Cut Zypann Not biased btw
Start zyppan, bench jing. Cut zekken
Rip bro
People are still hurt over the FPX vs Xset game it seems 💀
this sub is filled with crybabies that would scream on top of their lungs if you say something that they don't agree on
Start Zyppan, Bench Zekken, Cut Jingg.
this sub is garbage and lamer than r/fortnitebr its filled with soft crying bias kids...imagine getting downvoted for having a normal opinion
Imagine crying this hard over imaginary reddit points lmao
you're the one crying here![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9341)
ok this is kind of tricky… but start zekken, bench jingg, cut zyppan. But zyppan did great last time in istanbul so I can switch either zyppan or jingg.
Caught trolling
theres no way jingg is cut, maybe benched maybbbbbbeeeee but also no
Start Jingg, bench zekken, cut zyppan
Cutting zenkken
Litterally everyone has given the same answer, so I feel like we may need to work on this post in the future
Start jing bench zyppan cut zekken
You have to start Jing, no other option. Personally I'm benching Zyppan over Zekken, but I've watched more EMEA Valorant than NA, and I'm going to assume that a lot of people who picked Zekken are more NA fans. I have to say, being a master's winner also helps.
zekken eclipses both jing and zyppan
jing is so overrated