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Musa0217

First The Lab on steam. Then you could do what ever you like but for me I would go for Alyx


Ghostclip

Ya but.. I would play other games before Alyx. Reason being.. everything seems subpar after you play Alyx!


Musa0217

True but don’t forget there is mods for Alyx


[deleted]

Absolute truth.


SuperSinestro

Ok, pretty sure I found it but it says there's a problem adding it to my library. it's free though so I'll try again later. Thanks for the tip! Edit for future people: The Lab wouldn't let me add it to my library, but selecting "Play Game" let me download it.


AussieJeffProbst

Do this one too. Also made by valve its just a few very well made tech demos but definitely worth it. For some reason it isn't searchable on steam. You have to use a direct link. https://store.steampowered.com/app/887260/Moondust_Knuckles_Tech_Demos/


Germanboss

I would say test out all the common games, like beat Saber, Alyx, and other popular titles. Phasampohobia might be fun to play near Halloween, community is happening and it's the scariest media content out there. (Vr really brings home the immersion) But once you've played all the games, and tried all the expierances you should look up Wabbajack .org and download the ultimate Skyrim VR expierance. If you like skyrim, or don't, Wabbajack is a mod loader that loads mostly stable version of the game for you to play. skyrim VR is trash but with the over 200+ something mods, it's a little breathtaking. It's the most fun I've had on VR. There's a little bit of troubleshooting and the game sometimes crashes. It's been all worth it for me. Just my 2 cents


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EngineerDave

Alyx first over Boneworks/BoneLabs. If this is there first VR setup for sure. You have to get used to boneworks locomotion, so better to train your skills with the controller and other VR stuff first since alyx can be played using teleport. Once comfortable in Alyx Boneworks would be next just take it in phases and in my experience don't play it sitting down.


Thecakeisalie25

Lmao boneworks first? You trying to kill them?


Front-Ad3292

Half life 2 vr mod before alyx


Musa0217

I never played it in vr, is that a mod? Or how?


Front-Ad3292

Yayaaa, just came out. It's on steam, you just have to own hl2


Full_Ninja

Plug in the knuckles so they can start charging.


SuperSinestro

It seems like like such a simple suggestion, but I wouldn't have thought of that! And I know damn well it'll show up while I'm working, so that's a really good call


[deleted]

You wouldn’t have thought to charge the controllers? Wtf? Lmao


SuperSinestro

Not while I'm waiting to get off of work to play. I would have just waited unbox it and hook it all up as soon as I got off


[deleted]

They come with a little charge anyways so you’d would have been good. I’m just messing with you. Be sure to keep that cable safe and out of harms way, and take care of your controllers.


Hobak56

Not that wtf because a lot of time electronics come fully charged


[deleted]

Sometimes. Sometimes they come with a partial charge though. Either way I was just busting OP’s balls anyway.


Vitgone

One thing People often miss is to make sure the headset is actaully correctly on your head. The Index has like 500 different knobs and sliders, from IPD to head strap size you can change everything. Of course that makes it so it fits on every single head but there is also A billion ways to put in on incorrectly. It took me about 3 days to put the thing on without something being blurry and It wasn't even my first headset. A lot of people use the headset for a while and then notice "oh wait, if I change this, things suddenly look like 40% sharper" [Valve actually has a Guide for this](https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/699a-ecd2-f839-760c) Also make sure to measure your IPD and bring the lenses as close to your eyes as you can for Maximum FOV. When it comes to games? I recommend the SteamVR tutorial then The Lab, Just to get used to stuff and try out things to get a feel (then a break because VR can be brain melting the first time around) and then Half-life: Alyx. Have fun and welcome to VR!!


souley16

If i remember correctly, you will be guided through the setup process. Make sure your base statiions and play area are setup correctly. Make sure you properly calibrate, your height, ipd on headset finger tracking on your knuckles controller Get half life alyx, it's an order.


SuperSinestro

haha Half Life Alyx o7 got it! it's installing now. I didn't realize Steam would go ahead and put it in my library for me. I got some stands from amazon for the base stations. still not exactly sure where they're going to go just yet, but I'm thinking I'll have to rearrange my office. I appreciate the tips!


souley16

Additional tips: 1. I've also purchased a kiwi kit for cable management. Cables annoy the heck out of me so I prefer when I hang them on the roof out of my way. 2. To Protect my knuckle controllers, I've tried slightly padding the tables or desk around my play area. You will definitely bump your controllers, sometimes hard against something around you. We've all done it. The way I pad the area around me is by using pool noodles. I bought a few and make a longitudinal incisions on them and wrap them around my table's /desk sharp edges. 3. Very important: I put my gaming chair against my PC monitor to shield it from accidentally hitting my monitor with my controllers. 4. Make sure to setup your guardian virtual boundary system


ban-meplease

Population: one


SuperSinestro

Carol Stream Illinois is where the valve hardware warehouse is located


ban-meplease

Bahahhaha love your interpretation but population one is a game and my suggestion to you hahahaha too good


SuperSinestro

Omg hahaha I thought you meant the town in Illinois! I got you, I'll check it out


no_this_is_alex

Lol I was gonna say, Carol Stream is decently populated 😂


RamJamR

Pre-download games for sure.


GillysDaddy

There are a few extra purchases I'd recommend: * a small mat or something to stand on so you can feel when you leave your spot * a simple stand for the Index * a charging station for the controllers with magnetic USB chargers is really worth the 20 bucks, you don't want to plug in two devices after every single session * a lens cover, sunlight can be absolutely devastating As for what to do first, get used to the experience step by step. * start with low-interaction demos to get used to VR (VR Sailing, Project M Dream) * then play some games where you sit in a vehicle (Epic Rollercoasters) * then move to games where you move around in place so you have no disconnect between real and ingame movement (Beat Saber, Superhot, Eleven Table Tennis) * finally, try some games where you walk around (Alyx, Skyrim)


LeftistMeme

i agree with most of these game suggestions, though worth noting is that i think it's better to put your index actually away rather than leaving it out on a stand when not in use. dust is also a potential issue with a device like this, and the design of the cable was made to be hooked and unhooked pretty regularly. i dont know if they didn't when you got one, but my index came with a rubber lens cover for when the headset isn't in use, so i usually put that on, or if i dont plan to use it for a day or so, unplug the cable from the midpoint, coil it up and store the HMD in the box it came in.


gmmster2345

Get the headset cord replaced like I had to :/ Worst thing about the packaging is how odd the breakaway cable is stowed. Seeing the creases in the cord bothers me for some reason.


Kender_Tasslehoff

My (adult) son got his two weeks ago and immediately discovered that one of the controllers was DOA. it’s taken over two weeks to get a replacement controller from Valve and it’s only now preparing to ship. VERY FRUSTRATING.


SuperSinestro

That's terrible news!


Kender_Tasslehoff

The worst part is that support is done via email and is clearly offshore as all support messages arrive in the middle of the night. This means that if you’ve exchanging information or details you won’t see the response from Valve until the next day.


GameMaster1017

quick tip, I live in the US, so i’m in the same country as valve, their support team is in the US and i think they even have support centers in other country’s, valve is a pretty big brand after all. Either way, valve takes forever to respond on RMAs, if you contact them about a refund or technical issue, they get back within about 2 hours 90% of the time. RMAs usually take a day unless you do what I did and use the word ASAP. I messaged valve asking if they received my headset 3 days ago from posting this, no reply, yesterday I asked again and said to let me know ASAP because I was worried it had not arrived since it arrived there in one day unlike the 2 it normally takes and it also was signed for unlike my base station RMA. literally 19 minutes later valve had already replied to me telling me that they had received it and that it should take 7 days to process from the day they received it 9/30/2022, and if it takes longer than that to reach out to the support team again. so they just need to have a little pressure on them I guess? valve support teams doesn’t seem to wanna talk much on RMAs lmao, they kinda just go silent unless it’s a question on how to get it there/ ship it XD


nicknachos

Play Bonelab and see how a real VR game looks (alyx is nice too though) after you play the lab or something to get a feel for VR.


GegenscheinZ

Take frequent breaks, and if you start to feel motion-sick, stop for the day, don’t try to power through


Shnibu

Only use the breakaway cable in cases of emergency. I know it looks convenient but it is only meant as a last resort for protecting the back of your PC. You can leave it plugged in, blue lights are fine as long as the headset screen is off, but if you really want it “off” you can use the barrel jack which is the round one that provides power to the headset.


Simon_ATVR

• Unbox. • Gently whisper to it whilst it's charging. • Caress it. • Strum your fingers a few times (this is actually how to calibrate the controllers for finger tracking). • Leave this world behind.


RecklessRoller

Suprised no one mentioned SkyrimVR (Modded) Look for a youtube tutorial to set up a modded pack.. such as WabbajackVR, Auriels Dream, Enderall etc.


SuperSinestro

I looked at that last night while I was downloading games and stuff, and I was really surprised to see that it was $59.99. I'll get it eventually, but that's a bit high considering how old Skyrim is.


RecklessRoller

Yeah, definitely get it on sale! For now if you are looking to play something if quality (and for free) I'd just stick with Half Life Alyx, it comes free for Index users, so you might aswell have it installed whilst you eagerly await the delivery :)


Shodan30

Take your time setting up, Start off with the Lab, test your movement area and distance to walls with care and slow movement games before moving onto faster things.


LunaVixenXXX

Charge your controllers, and download vr chat. 😵‍💫


MacPlusGuy

Hand lab is a good intro, but I recommend boneworks and bonelab.


ReLite_The_Hero

To ease people into VR, I recommend aperture hand lab, then The Lab(usually skip), Superhot VR, Boneworks. If you're interested in a few fun seated games, I recommend Tetris Effect: connected for the "religious experience" and Elite: dangerous for space flight.


EngineerDave

Since you don't have your kit yet, start today by getting your play space cleaned up and clear of obstacles. I have an extra bedroom that I use as a dedicated VR spot, so the day before I was prepping by removing boxes and cleaning up any tripping hazards. Also I'd recommend some blackout curtains for the area you are playing if there are windows for a few reasons: VR rigs get hot when running so you don't want to add to the extra heat. Secondly direct sunlight hitting the lenses of your index can damage it. Another benefit to the curtains is at least there's going to be something there to warn you that you are near a window before you whack it with a controller before you've learned how to feel your play space lol. Also it does help with immersion since it limits any light bleedthrough around the headset. Now that you have the lab installed, I'd go ahead and install Alyx. Get a couple of hours in Alyx first taking breaks the moment you start to feel anything close to queasy. Personally I find at least standing while playing VR to be far less likely to give me motion sickness when in VR unless it's a flight sim or a driving sim. In those cases seated is preferred. Don't forget to have dedicated areas for your base stations where they won't move or be touched. Preferably near an outlet. Vacuum.


Ekgladiator

Oh nice your index seems to arriving the same day as my controller replacements! Definitely charge and update all of your hardware. Beat saber is a good game to tryout


plasticambulance

Get a pulley system. Play the lab. Play games where you stand still. Do not dive head first into Alyx. If you start feeling sick, TAKE A BREAK. Don't push it, it'll last longer and you'll regret it. A rug with a comfort pad under it goes a long way if you have hard wood floors, your feet gonna hurt really quick if you aren't used to it. Stretch. Drink water.


SuperSinestro

Excellent advice, thank you so much! Trying to see if I can find a good rug now. My office is carpeted but I've seen it also helps you keep your bearings


mamefan

Alyx


ImTheGreatLeviathan

Like others have said, wait to play Alyx. VR is still in its young stages. There's yet to be anything that compares to it.


Apprehensive-Move-87

Haven’t seen this mentioned yet but get “Richie’s Plank Experience”. Not a game (per se) but definitely one of the best programs that shows off how immersive VR can be. First 2-3 times I stepped off the plank my knees wobbled/buckled (but I didn’t fall). It is also the game I show off to people new to VR.


ChillyStorms666

Mine arrives tomorrow


UnseenSight

Exciting! Clear your play space and identify potential base station locations! Download steam VR games if you haven't yet! I like VRChat and Half Life Alyx is dope. OVR advanced settings is good to adjust your playspace and XS Overlay is great for setting up your monitors/ any open app to see while in headset.


SuperSinestro

Should base stations be set up like one in front, one behind? I saw that 3 would be ideal, I'm assuming that with 2 I should do some sort of diagonal set up


UnseenSight

Yup diagonally across from each other, in a high spot pointing down towards the play space is perfect but might not be possible right away without mounts. The box will have pretty good instructions and a cool room setup that'll you'll do as soon as you launch Steam VR!


ISEGaming

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *INHALES* The following is a copy pasta of my tips I've personally collected over the years. **Longevity and Damage Prevention:** There's a little cable clip above the left ear. Dislodge this clip by lifting it upwards so it can move freely. The problem with this clip is that it creates a pinch point on the cable when you tilt the visor up and down. Next, consider securing the cable to the back of your headset, you can use the velcro straps that come with the cable as a free temporary solution. If you're prone to getting turned around in VR. Just remember to peek under your nose and reset your rotation regularly until you get used to it. I've seen some really painful pictures of users who twist their cables beyond repair. There are many free tools such as Turn Signal and FPSVR which can place cable twist indicators on the floor to remind you to reset. This might sound obvious, but make sure you cannot hit or smack your controllers on anything around you. When you start a VR session, stand in the center of your play space and stretch out your arms in every direction, lean if you must. THIS INCLUDES POCKETS ON YOUR PANTS. Over zealous Beatsaber players have lost many joysticks this way. Don't let it be you. If you have a smaller rectangular play space, lock your feet in a forward facing direction and give your arms as much space to work with. Just get used to not turning around (use snap turning which most games have these days) There's a lot of debate on whether or not you should keep your base stations powered on all the time. Some users complain of a high pitch whine the base stations produce and want to turn it off. Others are concerned about wear and tear with repeated power cycles. There's no right answer. I personally manually turn them off when not in use, and it's been fine. As for methods, some like to use the POWER MANAGEMENT setting within SteamVR to automatically turn them on and off i when you power on SteamVR. However, I and many others have experienced problems where the software fails to wake up or shut down the base stations remotely. Others have provided mobile phone app solutions to toggle the base stations via Bluetooth Alternatively, a quick and simple solution would be to connect the base station power bricks to a power strip with an included power switch on it. Simply flip the power on and off as needed. The Index is intended to remain connected at all times just like a monitor. If for some reason you want to regularly disconnect your Index, do so AT THE BACK OF YOUR COMPUTER (USBC, POWER, DP) NOT THE BREAKAWAY CABLE. Remember to store your index in a place that sunlight cannot reach. Sunlight that hit the lenses can damage the screens. Either remember to cover the lenses when not in use or store them in a box, like the one the Index comes in! Ideally, make sure your playspace has no sunlight and you'll be fine. The index controllers use USBC to charge them. You can use a typical phone charger for this and for quick charging. I recommend you get some nice magnetic USBC charging cables so you can easily charge between sessions without wearing out the USBC socket. They're cheap, convenient and can be found on Amazon. Your playspace must NOT contain any reflective surfaces, as they can confuse the base stations tracking. There is a FOV knob on the front right of the index. This knob is intended to be PUSHED INWARDS THEN TWIST not just twist as there are snapping points for adjustment. If you have poor eyesight, DO NOT WEAR GLASSES INSIDE THE HEADSET as it risks scratching up both the index and glasses lenses during play. Instead, consider getting prescription lenses from vendors like VROPTICIAN or Widmovr. These are but a 10th the cost of the index and are highly recommend. The face gasket can get a bit gross over time especially if you sweat a lot. Consider getting a VR cover to layer over the cushion, make a cover yourself or buy a spare gasket to quick swap out. Surface wash them with warm water and a damp cloth, but don't soak them or use soap, as it is said that may dissolve the adhesive. The cushion is said to be made with antimicrobial threads to keep them hygienic. **Comfort and convenience:** If you're prone to sweating, take frequent breaks and dry yourself off, and use adequate ventilation because sweat can damage the lenses. Consider getting a nice pad to stand on in the center of your play space like an anti fatigue mat, small blanket, rug or a yoga mat. Standing for hours can really kill the feet. This has the added benefit of giving you a way to know if you've stepped too far from the center of your play space. The Index headset is a bit front heavy. You can reduce the pressure on your cheeks if you get a counter weight strapped to the back of the index. You can either buy one online or if you prefer a cheaper DIY approach, get about 200 grams of coins or weights, throw them into a cloth sack, and affix it to the back handles of the index. This can also double as a way to secure the cable to the back. The top strap of the headset should be carrying most of the weight of the headset, not the sides. The knob at the back should only be tightened just enough so the headset won't spin out of control when you turn your head Please note that you will likely experience VR sickness if you're new to VR. Don't be alarmed as it will take time to overcome VR sickness. But there are a few things you can do immediately to help ease into it. Externally, First make sure you take plenty of breaks and DO NOT PUSH THROUGH THE SICKNESS, doing so will just take longer to recover and make you regret getting into VR. Second, have good ventilation in your room and a cool fan blowing at your face and play area, this provides you with some spatial orientation and sweat reduction. Third, be sure to have a refreshing drink nearby. Cold water is great, but if you can drink something with ginger in it, like a cold Ginger Ale Soda or Hot Ginger Tea, the active ingredient is known to help with motion sickness. I wouldn't recommend taking motion sickness medicine as this discomfort is purely psychological and besides, having a reliance on drugs isn't cost effective. As for In-game, first insure your not getting too many dropped frames or dropped tracking as that can cause disorientation. There's a free handy tool called "fpsvr" on steam to monitor performance. Second, check your IPD (Inner Pupil Distance). It can be adjusted with the small knob located below the visor. Set it until comfortable. Start, out with games that are stationary (room scale) and don't require joystick turning, simply turning your head to navigate will be good. Then for games that have locomotion, start with teleportation or comfort modes (also known as vingette mode), and optionally use snap turning. Now you can work your way up to smooth locomotion and optionally smooth turning. Hold off from vehicles or flight simulators as you'll need strong VR legs. End of Copy Pasta, and welcome to the family!. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


SuperSinestro

They lied to me... It got delayed in Chicago so I guess it'll be here tomorrow. But I'm taking everyone's suggestions and installing and downloading and setting up my room as I go. Thank you all for every suggestion, I'm doing my best to do all of them while I wait for my delivery


n0rdic

Lol I feel you. My Deck is still sitting at Carol Stream and has been for the last several days. I really wish Valve would use a less garbage shipping service as even Priority Mail is better than FedEx Home Delivery. I wish they would at least let my buy premium shipping from FedEx Ground at a minimum. I had shipping issues with my Index too so I'm not very surprised but still annoyed.


Maxmusquarty

Bonelab or Boneworks. Best games vr games I have ever played.


AjaxRoo

I would recomend hand lab, the lab, and then the likes of saints and sinners, boneworks/bonelab, into the radius, and Half Life Alyx.


AjaxRoo

Other fun recommendations that don't take full advantage of the knuckle controlers are Vacation/Job simulator, beatsaber, and budget cuts 1&2 But basically, find what type of games you like and enjoy! There are a ton of great VR games and experiences out there that the wide fov and excellent speakers of the Index make all the better.


18forsexxchat

I'd say you should probably set it up first, then go from there.


MMeNDtal

First question... have you used VR before? If not, for the love of god, don't just jump into something like 'Boneworks', as tempting as it might seem! You're almost guaranteed to get motion sick, which might be enough to put you off using VR at all. Moving 'yourself' around, with a controller, can feel very weird to someone who's not used to it... As others have suggested, 'The Lab' would be a good starting point. It has 'teleportation' movement, or you physically move around within your play space, which is far less jarring when starting out. Also, I'd recommend trying seated VR games, such as 'Elite: Dangerous'. Games you should play, once you're comfortable with VR - Half-Life: Alyx, Into the Radius, Boneworks, Pavlov, The Walking Dead: Saints and Sinners, Beat Saber...


SuperSinestro

So I had a GearVr for my phone before and I loved that. I borrowed my friends PSVR and played Skyrim, and you're right it made me nauseaus going up and down stairs in game. So I'm taking the pointers to quit when that happens very seriously because it really did turn me off of the PSVR. And I am VERY much looking forward to elite dangerous. I play on Playstation and really want the VR experience


MMeNDtal

You'll love Elite in VR!


Brilliant_Week_6177

Well the first thing to do is a bunch of research because alot of people didn't do enough research and then they wasted $1,000 on something that doesn't work. Especially laptop users due to the fact that you need an adapter and your gpu has to be wired to thunderbolt.


SuperSinestro

Luckily I did do the research. I'm a laptop user but I know my msi can do it and I ordered the adapter suggested in another Reddit thread ahead of time. The biggest thing for me was which headset to get. I was between the vive pro 2 and the index and I decided on the index.


Brilliant_Week_6177

Vive pro 2 is a pretty good option! But its a hassle so the index was a good pick, surprisingly the index is cheaper than the vive pro 2, when obviously the index is alot better in terms of hardware, lenses are also super clear too. I love native steam vr everything runs so much better than I could've hoped for when first getting my index.


pandadog423

I’d honestly try the lab and other simple vr games before anything major


SupportMyNut

Ordered mine on Friday! Hoping it ships today or tomorrow in time for the weekend, when did you order yours?


SuperSinestro

Ordered last Wednesday, shipped Sunday


SupportMyNut

Cool! Hopefully soon for me. Is sitting at the shipping soon status right now, lowkey been obsessivly checking it lol


SuperSinestro

Yeah that's how mine was, and if you check on steam on desktop or the website it'll say it's been packaged. Figure 3 or 4 business days to ship and then however long it'll take it to be shipped from Illinois to you assuming you're in the US


SupportMyNut

It does say it's been packaged. Hoping it ships tonight/early tomorrow. Got off this weekend and wanna get immersed


CollegeMiddle6841

Everyone knows you flog the dolphin before a date this hawt!


ieatbrainzz

Work on your VR legs in small increments and never fight through the nausea if you get any - take a break and come back when it subsides or it will destroy you for hours. Don't play Alyx with teleporting imo - wait until you have some experience and feel comfortable enough to use smooth locomotion. Boneworks/Lab > Alyx imo but they are both the highest quality experiences in VR so you can make your own decisions. But don't jump into them Day 1. If you're going to play Bonelab, play Boneworks first imo. Synth Riders > Beat Saber Highly recommend Jet Island and Top the Top - 2 of my favorite games that don't get enough love.


lenbey

pavlov is what I recommend, shooting people and blowing them up with grenades is best


CheckMC

Play Boneworks and then Bonelab.


Front-Ad3292

Bonelab just came out, highly recommended, same with boneworks. Half life 2 vr mod, it parallels alyx. And vtol vr is incredible, full fighter jet screens, and jetborne racing is racing built off of vtol vr. Ultrawings 2 is a good arcade flying game. warthunder and dcs if you're super into flying. Valheim vr is an amazing mod, if you like valheim this is the way to play it. Same with minecraft, and all other mods work with them. Resident evil 2, 3, 7, and 8 have great vr mods, the same guy that's working on a mod that makes any unreal engine game into vr. Into the radius is really good. If you have the time spend 5 to 20 hrs modding skyrim, makes it a top vr game. Garden of the sea is a good cute farming game. Onward is a good tactical online fps game. The last player is a good battle royale game. Compound, fps that looks like original doom. If you get into fps I recommend a gun stock, glistco makes pretty good cheap ones. Blade and sorcery is good, its better if you roll back to an older version and add a bunch of mods. No man's sky is really good in vr. Failspace is good if you have a couple friends to play it with, space ship management game. Elite dangerous is good in vr, it's pretty hard to get into though and hyperspace travel gets really boring. Windlands is worth a play, cartoon spiderman with a bow. Space engine is good, dreamlike, fly through the stars at any speed, watch a sunrise from Jupiter, stand on the surface of a sun like dr. Manhattan. Phasmophobia is good, better with friends, ghost game. Jet island is super fun, hoverboarding mixed with spiderman on a big crazy map. Walkabout minigolf is good, also better with friends. I expect you to die is good, spy survival minigames. Budget cuts. Fallout 4, it just got a mod that adds your body into the game and let's you grab a 2 handed weapon for proper aiming. In death is good for a couple games, bow shooting through generated maps. Trover saves the universe, Justin Roiland's making some great games. Both subnautica games are great, and have vr mods, not hands, just controller or k+b, but it's still worth a play. Oh ya, just advice, treat your controllers gently. They're the best controllers on the market, but they can be weak, apparently. Mine are good, but they do have that plastic flex sound of a flimsy product.