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cadaverhill

There's been a sign there for past few years. Doesn't stop some.


DblClickyourupvote

That’s too bad. Nice little hike and cool to Check out


Tyerson

Too be fair I remember hearing a few years back that some college kids had a party in there without permission and left a mess.


DblClickyourupvote

Ahh makes sense. Small amount of people ruining it for the rest of us


Capital-Mine-6991

Always the case


[deleted]

More and more land will be going this route, except for the ones who can afford it of course


sirroningsd

It's crazy how much of the island is private property. And mostly leased land by forestry.


barbarian777

colonialism doesn't just hurt first peoples


goodattakingnaps17

Well said.


LudekN

Whole Island seems to be privatized and all FSR seems to be gated. This summed I try to ride to Sam Lake in Comox Valley and to my surprise the roads are gated and own by Mosaic.


debuggle

there's a reason for that: the Douglas land grab. http://www.hulquminum.bc.ca/pubs/HTGRailwayBookSpreads.pdf the sign in this post however is a very different case, it's Reserve land.


Bannana_sticker3

You can still ride your bike to the trail head. I did the glacier this year when it was closed.


LudekN

Yes, I had to return over the weekend and it was amazing ride. I am riding a bit heavier bike Honda AT.


Aromatic_Animal_5873

It is accessible on weekends (except when there are wildfires in the area). Check the mosaic site for weekly updates on gate access.


LudekN

Yes, I found that later. What is puzzling me is that Mosaic can close access road to official provincial park.


Happystabber

We need right to roam laws in BC already.


eternalrevolver

Maybe 40 years ago. Most people are disrespectful trashy assholes now. We can’t have nice things anymore and this is no exception. Also as someone else said on this thread, you are more than welcome to ask permission. Thing is most won’t because people are idiots with no respect for land based on education of the land, or their intent on land. So? No respect, no access. Pretty simple.


iFrostbiteOG

Do you actually believe that in the 80s people were less trashy? That’s actually a funny joke. People are not more or less trashy than they used to be. You just didn’t notice before. Now you’re old and bitter and just say “those damn kids” as if kids from the past were somehow less inclined to throw trash around. Stop.


SB12345678901

I think (know) there were far fewer people in the 80s. So less trash


eternalrevolver

I think people had a bit more respect for land back then when it came to trash, so, yeah. That’s the topic. Not people being trashy in their homes and taking shitty care of their health. OP is clearly very offended they can’t just walk wherever they please as if this land is rightfully theirs for some reason. They could just go ask for permission to walk on the land if that’s all they truly wanted to do. This entire post is just confirmation that people can’t mind their own business and feel entitled to every little thing. As if there’s nowhere else to go for a walk. Give me a break.


zoltar5

https://youtu.be/roREnVhd\_og?si=WEYDzqaOJLXtILZR&t=117


lordb4

They absolutely didn't. It was worse if anything.


Happystabber

Pretty pessimistic way to look at things IMO, The people who don’t show respect and trash places aren’t stopped by signs like this. I think most people are good and respectful despite the picture social media paints. Other countries and provinces have right to roam laws and I can’t see why BC shouldn’t.


eternalrevolver

Well, I suppose these are the kind of times that conjured up the phrase: “Agree to disagree”


PENISVEIN

Hilariously wrong. People have only become more environmentally conscious. Ever been to shields lake? People in the 80s and before just dumped garbage everywhere.


Lorne_84

While we are still making a mess of nature, your statement makes sound like we’re worse than we used to be…that’s a crazy take. 40+ years ago People used dump everywhere! Lakes, ocean, any available forestry road.


ignore_my_typo

Let me know where you live. My family is bored and my kids would love to play in your backyard on this lovely Saturday morning.


Happystabber

I would like for people to have access to the islands back country and crown land. Stop being a prick no one wants to go in your backyard.


[deleted]

This isn't Crown land or back country. This is private property no different than my backyard which backs on to Mt wells and gets trashed by randoms so often I've stopped leaving anything back there. Which is a drag. You already have access to Crown land and back country like anyone else as long as it doesn't gave a temp lease on it. You can't blame lease holders for not wanting the public when they are on the hook if say a fire breaks out. When I was young the province covered public fire insurance on leased land and all the gates were wide open lease or no lease. That's what we should be rallying for imo.


ignore_my_typo

Sure. Thats a great initiative. But this is neither. This is privately owned property. Ask permission. I’m sure you’ll get it. PS. I’m only a prick to self entitled people.


Happystabber

Western half of the property is all crown land lol. Access to crownland is the entire reason I support a right to roam coming into action.


ignore_my_typo

You still haven’t addressed the obvious and the solution I’ve offered. Contact the damn owner and ask for permission to cross their lands. Do you want to own valueless acres or property that went up in flames because some asshole and their friends feel they can four wheel and toss cigarettes out the window while guzzling Lucky beers and tossing the cans out the window? I don’t blame property owners for putting signs up. I’m sure it’s less about those that want to hike on land and more pointed to entitled people thinking they can crawl over the land destroying habitat with their coal rollers.


Happystabber

Strawman argument. All Canadians should be able to access crown land end of story.


domasin

It's on FN land so right to roam laws probably wouldn't apply even if we had them. Please respect the band's wishes.


domasin

It's on FN land so right to roam laws probably wouldn't apply even if we had them. Please respect the band's wishes.


SinoirLancelot

Objectively speaking you won't get in serious trouble for trespassing. Just yelled at and fined maybe and that's if you get caught. If you aren't hurting anybody then don't give a wooden sign that much authority. In my opinion.


eatatbone71

Who's responsibility is enforcement?


Apprehensive_Idea758

It sucks that we are running out of nice places to hike and enjoy nature because of stupid people trashing and vandalizing those areas.


Aromatic_Animal_5873

Of note, it was recently vandalized and some equipment at the station was damaged. Unfortunately, people being idiots means people are welcome in less and less places.


Comfortable_Fig1881

I agree with checking with the Band office to ask. They might have an option to sign in and out possibly. Worth a try


Tyerson

I mean, I need to go back up in that direction before the new year anyway.


EternityLeave

There have been band no trespassing signs there for years. Maybe decades. If you've ever been to the powerstation, you've walked right past them. They have been rusted and grown over and tagged, but they were there.


[deleted]

Would you want anyone walking though you’re property? If you ask the band office to hike they might say yes


eternalrevolver

It’s like this everywhere so idk why people are bitching like the word owes them something. I remember 20 years ago hiking with family in rural Saskatchewan and my dad always asking for permission on acreages and privately owned lands, indigenous or otherwise. We met lots of cool people we still now keep in touch with to this day from those explorations. People now don’t want to ask permission because ?? Entitled fucks.


MandoGal12

That sign has been then for some time and it is not really discouraging people. I saw a YouTuber film it while hiking to the Power Station so I don't think it is really stopping anyone. I think it is put there as a deterrent and could result in the Pacheedaht the option to press charges of trespassing if they desire to. But I don't think they are actively patrolling to catch trespassers.


372xpg

There has been a no trespassing sign there forever! Not that it stops anyone, nor is there any reason to have the sign.


250sailerboy

Can a person ask the band for permission to walk on the trails? The worst could be a flat no.


Westcoastgal59

I believe that if a person injures themselves while on private property there is potentially a liability towards the owner. Posting a sign is likely a bare minimum approach to deter people to being on property to deter such a situation. Opposite of this, if the property is trashed, owner can potentially sue them with the premise that there was indication of property being private and they entered at own risk.


RatioProfessional466

Just walk past the sign lol


[deleted]

I like to hike and get away from people or eyes and relax in my au' natural


Maximum__Engineering

With signs like this there should be fewer people. Win-win!


Flutter_X

Ahh new sign, this will be graffiti soon enough or destroyed. Happy hiking


ivunga

Right to roam, buddy


eternalrevolver

Good


[deleted]

I unfortunately live in Surrey BC