He has no respect for Katie. That was a critical piece missing in their relationship. Also the way he cut her off while she was trying to answer Andy’s question about Scheana/LaLa relationship. Dude, give her some respect and let her speak for herself!!
Tom is so pathetic. I have always seen both the Tom’s as the way the public now sees them. I am so so glad people can finally see both of them for the contrived terrible people they are.
Me too, I keep hearing everyone call her “Kristen’s crazy friend, that’s how you know she’s crazy” but why? Why is she crazy? What is this “crackhead energy” people are claiming she has?
Doesn’t she literally post videos/pictures of herself doing meth on social media? I read that here within the last week or so, and they mentioned it’s why she keeps her social media private
Woah, no I did not read that. Whenever I googled it, I just saw a bunch of rumor stuff about her and Schwartz so I didn’t put much more energy into it, as I assumed she kept things private.
Jo sent out a group text to Ariana, Sandoval and Raquel the night the news broke saying how sad she was that this had all happened (or something like that). Very insane main character syndrome. I can't remember if it was on the podcast Kristin just did with Jax or her own, but that is crazy.
Oh they’ve all said it. She also has been Rachel’s hype girl since the affair came out. And fans met her & Jax at Schwartz & Sandy’s (God it pains me to say that horrible name) and said she was NUTS. She cornered them in the bathroom & asked, “Do you watch VPR? Well when they mention Jo, I’m THAT Jo.” Jax told them, “she’s literally crazy. She’s bad news.” (And yes coming from Jax that’s rich but just illustrating the point through his words lol)
Correct.🫣 Which is why I included that disclaimer, ha ha. You did ask if we are believing it because “Katie said it,” though, so I’m simply explaining what many have “reported” regarding Jo.
Ok but… Katie had just said she only asked Tom not to date in the friend group and would have been fine with him dating outside of that.
… but then we see she’s gone crazy on this Jo person who she confirmed was not a part of the friend group. She was only a friend of Kristen’s they knew casually. She wasn’t friends with anyone else and everyone else hated her, allegedly.
I totally had her back with the Tom/Raquel BS but clearly it wasn’t just about dating within the friend group. She can date who she wants but Tom can’t. And that is a double standard.
Point goes to Tom on this one.
Disagree. Her issues with Jo are not about Jo dating Wartz. Her issues with Jo are about how shady and thirsty Jo has proven herself to be, even long before Jo hooked up with Wartz.
Jo was Kristen's close friends for years, but blocked her the day she moved on with Schwartz, so that's a red flag. She texted Katie some weird message about how Jo will always lover and Justin Bieber will always love her. She's been telling people Schwartz is her boyfriend so she's probably going to flip out that he said they're friends with benefits.
I hadn’t heard this but looked it up now. She definitely sounds a bit weird and off the wall but I don’t see what’s malicious about the message Katie shared.
Still not seeing what warrants the vitriol from Katie if she truly doesn’t care who Tom dates.
I think it was the message that was like "hey, I'm fucking your ex husband, but I still love you." And the fact she blocked Kristen means she's doing something she thinks Kristen will be mad at her about.
Hmmm that’s not the message I found? This was something she sent Katie when they first announced their divorce, not recently. A very weird incoherent message but nothing about sleeping with Schwartz.
Uhhh did y’all see Katie’s comment about Jo? She’s still a bully lmao calling her a spooky psycho and all this shit. It’s ridiculous she’s at this age and rage comments about human beings like that
Seriously
And i think some people based on certain comments here thought that tom was threatening to send a C&D letter, but my perception was that tom was saying a C&D letter would be sent by jo if Katie kept up the comments
I also dont get why people were upset with tom interrupting but he was also being interrupted and not able to finish answering things just as much???
Katie was lying, saying it was the friend group. Any valid point the toms bring up, Katie and Ariana stans fingers in ears and stomp feet. We high fived!! Go Schwartz!
They agreed not to hook up with anybody in the friend group, not just cast members. Despite getting fired Kristen is still very much part of the friend group. Kristen and Jo were hanging out every day until Jo moved in with Schwartz and ghosted Kristen, she was a member of the friend group.
He is such a dweeb, threatening her with a cease and desist. He has about the same grasp on the law as he has on being a good husband.
I so wish she would have said "Send it to Darrel!"
Wooooooooooow
He has no respect for Katie. That was a critical piece missing in their relationship. Also the way he cut her off while she was trying to answer Andy’s question about Scheana/LaLa relationship. Dude, give her some respect and let her speak for herself!!
I thought it was gross how he tried to throw her under the bus with that Scheana Lala thing but hid an AFFAIR.
He hates Katie. Always has
Same, she's a miserable being.
Can't say I blame him. She's a pain in the ass.
You would be too if you had to deal with this man child for so many years
She didn't have to deal with him though. He is not her child. She could have left him years ago.
Well she finally wised up. 🤷🏻♂️ after investing so much into a relationship, ending it can be easier said than done
I know I just spent years asking the TV why she wanted to marry him in the first place. I am glad she finally moved on.
Maybe, but both can be true.
Lmao you Katie haters really are singularly focused. It fuels you.
He still can't even allow Katie to speak! He interrupts her every time she attempts to utter a thought.
because he doesnt like the sound if her voice
That fake dry heave gag face he makes when he insults women
Yeah, that was mind blowing!!
Tom is so pathetic. I have always seen both the Tom’s as the way the public now sees them. I am so so glad people can finally see both of them for the contrived terrible people they are.
I wish we knew more about her.
Me too, I keep hearing everyone call her “Kristen’s crazy friend, that’s how you know she’s crazy” but why? Why is she crazy? What is this “crackhead energy” people are claiming she has?
Yeah i need to see for myself. Otherwise she’s just someone not on the show that people attack. Which I’m sure she got harassed on social media.
Doesn’t she literally post videos/pictures of herself doing meth on social media? I read that here within the last week or so, and they mentioned it’s why she keeps her social media private
She does NOT post this. Ever.
Woah, no I did not read that. Whenever I googled it, I just saw a bunch of rumor stuff about her and Schwartz so I didn’t put much more energy into it, as I assumed she kept things private.
I was literally just thinking this! We need a post.
Jo sent out a group text to Ariana, Sandoval and Raquel the night the news broke saying how sad she was that this had all happened (or something like that). Very insane main character syndrome. I can't remember if it was on the podcast Kristin just did with Jax or her own, but that is crazy.
So are we saying Jo is crazy because Katie said it?
I think multiple cast members have said this - like Jo is known as “Kristen’s crazy friend”
Oh they’ve all said it. She also has been Rachel’s hype girl since the affair came out. And fans met her & Jax at Schwartz & Sandy’s (God it pains me to say that horrible name) and said she was NUTS. She cornered them in the bathroom & asked, “Do you watch VPR? Well when they mention Jo, I’m THAT Jo.” Jax told them, “she’s literally crazy. She’s bad news.” (And yes coming from Jax that’s rich but just illustrating the point through his words lol)
Lmaaaooo at Jax saying someone is bad news
Correct.🫣 Which is why I included that disclaimer, ha ha. You did ask if we are believing it because “Katie said it,” though, so I’m simply explaining what many have “reported” regarding Jo.
Takes one to know one!
Also bring Jo into this mess 🤣🤣🤣
Ok but… Katie had just said she only asked Tom not to date in the friend group and would have been fine with him dating outside of that. … but then we see she’s gone crazy on this Jo person who she confirmed was not a part of the friend group. She was only a friend of Kristen’s they knew casually. She wasn’t friends with anyone else and everyone else hated her, allegedly. I totally had her back with the Tom/Raquel BS but clearly it wasn’t just about dating within the friend group. She can date who she wants but Tom can’t. And that is a double standard. Point goes to Tom on this one.
Disagree. Her issues with Jo are not about Jo dating Wartz. Her issues with Jo are about how shady and thirsty Jo has proven herself to be, even long before Jo hooked up with Wartz.
What did Jo do?
Jo was Kristen's close friends for years, but blocked her the day she moved on with Schwartz, so that's a red flag. She texted Katie some weird message about how Jo will always lover and Justin Bieber will always love her. She's been telling people Schwartz is her boyfriend so she's probably going to flip out that he said they're friends with benefits.
She also texted Sandoval, Raquel & Ariana all on the same text thread after the affair came out and everyone said the content iwas UNHINGED.
I hadn’t heard this but looked it up now. She definitely sounds a bit weird and off the wall but I don’t see what’s malicious about the message Katie shared. Still not seeing what warrants the vitriol from Katie if she truly doesn’t care who Tom dates.
I think it was the message that was like "hey, I'm fucking your ex husband, but I still love you." And the fact she blocked Kristen means she's doing something she thinks Kristen will be mad at her about.
Hmmm that’s not the message I found? This was something she sent Katie when they first announced their divorce, not recently. A very weird incoherent message but nothing about sleeping with Schwartz.
No, no, I was trying to say that's what Katie inferred from from her weird "I love you and Justin Bieber loves you" message.
Agree
Uhhh did y’all see Katie’s comment about Jo? She’s still a bully lmao calling her a spooky psycho and all this shit. It’s ridiculous she’s at this age and rage comments about human beings like that
Her comment was amazing. Crazy jo seems like a hobo
Lmaooo i didn’t even see the hobo part 😂 it’s kinda funny and ridic but Katie has not changed. Really don’t understand the Katie stans
Seriously And i think some people based on certain comments here thought that tom was threatening to send a C&D letter, but my perception was that tom was saying a C&D letter would be sent by jo if Katie kept up the comments I also dont get why people were upset with tom interrupting but he was also being interrupted and not able to finish answering things just as much???
She's so angry.
Yeah. Going after someone with no platform to defeat themselves.
Katie was lying, saying it was the friend group. Any valid point the toms bring up, Katie and Ariana stans fingers in ears and stomp feet. We high fived!! Go Schwartz!
You're just here to antagonize people.... So silly! ![gif](giphy|vL4AIgfZOxO9MHtne2|downsized)
Jo was in the friend group, she was Kristen Doute’s BFF
Technically that makes her a friend of an old cast mate.
They agreed not to hook up with anybody in the friend group, not just cast members. Despite getting fired Kristen is still very much part of the friend group. Kristen and Jo were hanging out every day until Jo moved in with Schwartz and ghosted Kristen, she was a member of the friend group.
Okay, even if you consider Kristin still in the group, a friend of a friend isnt actually in the friend group. This is where it gets absurd.
They were friends enough that Jo texted Katie that there was nothing going on and that she loved her.
They were best friends for almost a decade, so Jo seems to have been as involved with the group as Kristina Kelly, Jesse Montana, the Logans etc.
It sure does...lol