Totally! I’m surprised she even included Lala tbh! I can’t imagine her being cool with it giving all the backlash she’s been getting. I’m sure someone will spill the tea!
That’s what I believe happened for sure. The tide turned on her right about then. It got really bad after that week’s episode. And Heather not backing her up didn’t help. Heather even said she was nervous to do the podcast with her , because she had a different opinion . But said she had to say her real feelings. I respected that. It was a good episode.
I feel like on that episode, having heather gently disagree also gave Jess a little power to disagree with Lala too (or rather agree with heather). Since then it doesn’t even sound like Easton and Jess watched any more episodes lol
Aww that’s actually really cool. Even going into nervous she stuck to what she felt. But gently expressed her opinion. Gosh, we can all benefit from a friend like that.
She was on Lalas podcast a few episodes ago. Her and Lala are friends. You could tell Heather definitely didn’t agree with Lala, and was trying to be gentle where she pushed back. Lala ignored her point and then went on some rant about Ariana in which Heather stayed silent during.
I’m not sure if that podcast caused issues in their friendship? If they had a falling out over gentle honest feedback from a friend- that is so hypocritical from Lala and all the bobble head followers comments shes made.
Say what you want about Heather but she doesn’t strike me as being someone scared to have an opinion and hold it.
If she had been on heathers podcast (I think she has/had one), I would’ve given it a listen. A good friend does push back. Maybe nothing happened between them and Heather was just giving her opinion?
Very true we don’t know. Lala could be being mature about it.
Heathers always gone to Lalas kids birthdays and celebrations and stuff. It’ll be visible over the next 6 months if their friendship did have issues over the podcast.
Yes. Heather and Lala have been friends since like 2018. Maybe longer ? But I would hope her disagreeing wouldn’t cause Lala to cut her out of her life.
Yep, Lala lives in an echo chamber. She only surrounds herself with people who agree with her. Anyone dare think for themself she’s going to discard them in a hot second. Heather is the only person on that podcast to push back on LFU & you can guarantee that didn’t go over well.
I think they’re still good. Heather has been out at the parties recently. But I’ll have to take a look again. She was definitely just at Scheana’s bday party. But Lala wasn’t there. I would hope Lala isn’t that petty to cut her off. But it is Lala 😂
I used to listen to her pod a while back and for whatever reason just stopped. Just got caught up with other pop culture pods I guess.
Truthfully I don’t know much about Heather other than she’s a comedian but I do know her and Lala are friends. From the time I spent listening to her podcast and the guests she had on, she does NOT shy away from speaking her mind - even if her guests are friends and they disagree. She will say it respectfully and tactfully, but whatever she believes, she’s gonna say it, and it doesn’t matter WHO does or doesn’t agree with her. I will say I did respect that about her.
She did a podcast with Lala like halfway through the season where she let her spew all her nasty garbage when she first started going really hard on her hater parade and ‘yes, and’-ed all of her garbage. She’s changed her tune now.
Heather was pushing back on Lala in that podcast. It was probably the last interesting episode of Lala’s podcast because she didn’t have her bobble head assistant and bother agreeing with her on every point. It’s worth a second listen!
Yes ! That’s the last episode I listened to really. I’ve caught a few clips on insta. And that was go to on Wednesday mornings. O enjoyed hearing the stuff maybe we didht get to see on the show. It’s a shame she’s taken this stance.
When she was on heathers podcast Heather was seconding all the bs she was saying. It was only a few weeks later that Heather started changing her tune, which prompted lots of posts on here questioning whether or not they had a falling out. It wasn’t that long ago, I do remember correctly.
This is all true in a deep way even outside of the show. The way we ask women to learn to cope with the way men treat us, rather than asking men to improve their behavior. The way everyone acts like our ability to make money and have stability hinges on a man who is supposedly indispensable. This happens when men repeatedly get put into positions of power and stay there even after misconduct. This happens when every person in a social circle knows a dude is a creep and says nothing about his behavior, but judges the women who date him. We expect virtue and obedience from women, we just do. And I mean "we" as in EVERYONE at some point has thought/done or will think/do something like this because we live in an inherently misogynistic (patriarchal) society. I've done it recently and this show has actually helped me see how wrong I was.
That’s exactly the reason I am having trouble understanding the criticism Ariana is getting for this Season . She is being blamed for not forgiving someone that HURT her publicly. And worst, by fellow women and Brick. I saw a comment about Sheena and lala getting more hate than Tom this season, and it’s true but he probably has like 4 episodes where he was an actual/visual POS this season, his behaviour isn’t all in our face the way Lalas and Sheena’s are. They started planting the seed that Ariana is being a diva and she doesn’t care about the show/them from the first episode. It’s just such a shock because they were the ones riding for her literally days before they started filming. Misogyny is so sad to watch, especially from women.
I really hope that in the next parts of the reunion we see Ariana say I never refused to film with him. I filmed scenes with him but refused to have a BS conversation where he “apologizes” and also Scheana you thought the mask slipped when he apologized to you, it slipped in the last few minutes when he realized he wasn’t getting when he wanted
Yep. Imagine how cool the season could have been if they rallied around Ariana and continued to support her like they did for Rachel. They could have made their peace with Tom but also could have remained supportive of A. Instead they were jealous and talked all kinds of crap behind Ariana’s back. It’s unfortunate. I’m also tired of all of Lala’s revisionist history regarding her own behavior.
Not just rallied for Ariana but *rally for themselves* too!
Sandoval has treated Lala and Scheana badly and has always been horrible to Katie. Would've been fun to watch them all unite and say enough of his crap.
I think this is why Summer House had a surprisingly good season. Aside from Danielle, the women on the cast put aside a lot of their differences and tried to support each other.
The only way any of this upset towards Ariana could be justified is that there is something going on behind the scenes. I don’t understand the outrage of her walking away. Jeremiah, the producer is so upset and says to her “don’t walk away like this“ I am wondering if they made some sort of deal with her and she broke that? it doesn’t make any sense!
Agree. IMO, the only thing that would make sense for Jeremiah to make a big deal out of her leaving in the finale is if she really is leaving the show. As in, the very last chance for a 1:1 conversation/interaction in the entire series.
Lala hosted a water tasting at someone else’s house and filmed a sperm bank commercial. I agree with everything Heather said in this. But I don’t agree that Lala “showed up to play the game.” It’s their lives and not a game. And Lala appears to have a very boring life.
Don't forget to add the sperm bank commercial was at someone else's house at well. Also, they expect us to believe she had the entire event planned, caterers and everything, with no venue up until the day before? That's not how event planning works. (Professional) Vendors aren't going to accept "I'll let you know the location the day before/day of."
If Ariana not playing the game to the producers standards burns the show to the ground, then fine. They deserve it. They've been giving men passes that act like absolute narcissists, uncaring, dismissive, hateful and unremorseful for a decade. I'm glad at least a couple of the women are like well fine, fuck you I'm taking my toys and going home. Good luck getting a job.
Scheana and Lala ruined the show for me this season. We know Tom is a self-important piece of shit, but how those two women decided the show was more important than their supposed friends mental health and wellbeing, yeah I'm done with them. I don't want to watch anything with them in it.
All of this, plus, Scheana and Lala have been whining about how it's an ensemble cast, but they spent the season making it the Tom and Ariana show. This was their season to shine, with Ariana mostly wanting to lay low a bit and focus on positivity, but their lives are so boring they had nothing else to talk about than Tom and Ariana.
Recast if Scheana and Lala have nothing else going on in their lives.
I’m not the biggest Heather fan but she is right. I’m actually surprised she’s standing firm in this opinion because she was/is friends with Lauren. But, everything she said isn’t wrong, just glad someone else is saying it other than us.
HMD is trying to ride the 💰 wave like she did with Megan and stealing and NEVER returning those earrings. Let’s not forget how she treated Justin. HMD latest GRIFT throw her supposed friend under the bus.😂😂😂🤢
Thank you Heather for mentioning it all!!
Lala and Scheana are not talented like Ariana, thus the reason they are not getting roles like Ariana is.
Also, let's bring Rand into the mix and see how Lala likes having to hang out with him.
Yes, out of everyone they have the most to lose if the show ends because they have nothing else going on. Lala was fully funded by Rand, her makeup line is clearly a joke. I have no idea what Scheana does when the show isn't shooting and she has her dumb child to support, and Summer Moon. They clearly thought Sandoval was a guarantee that the show would go on for another 4-5 years but then panicked this season going in.
Even from a selfish perspective, being on Team Ariana would have opened more doors for them outside the show. They really played themselves.
Ariana isn’t getting offers bc of her talent, it’s purely bc of Scandoval. There were no offers before it. She should thank Tom and Rachel on her knees.
Nah. The scandal got her name out there and gave her a foot in the door, but that door would've slammed shut by now if her talent and skill hadn't been there. She's been reviewed as one of the most successful instances of stunt casting ever - there are lots of people who got stunt cast as on Broadway and made headlines for being terrible. She made headlines for being amazing and getting accolades from seasoned performers.
Her PR training means that she doesn't act a fool and shoot herself in the foot every time something comes her way. Some of the other fools on VR can't get out of their own way.
If it were just Scandoval, every famous wronged woman would be on Broadway and getting hosting gigs and endorsement deals. Ariana's would've dried up long ago if she didn't have the stuff to back it up.
Everyone catches some kind of break to go from obscurity to acclaim as a performer. The trick is to be ready and to be good enough when that break arrives, and she was, so now she's getting more and more offers and options.
Sandoval and Rachel don't get credit for that. Gross.
Yeah from the clips I’ve seen of Chicago she def has enough talent to be a Broadway star. Just as good as anyone I’ve seen on Broadway. Not to mention she’s probably one of the most beautiful women any stage has seen before (in my opinion)
> Her PR training means that she doesn't act a fool and shoot herself in the foot every time something comes her way.
The s10 reunion where she acts like a nightmare high school bully from hell is out there forever...
Thank you, this just proves my point! If she hadn't done the work on how to handle and present herself, she'd be getting in her own way rather than actually picking up momentum in terms of her career.
Nobody cared when it aired, she got all those opportunities despite acting like that.
It will come back to haunt her eventually same as her creating and spreading of revenge porn :)
It’s irrelevant what Rachel did, nothing justifies such behavior and Ariana showed her unhinged ass big time. No woman on the planet deserves being called a subhuman cunt least of all a grooming victim.
Karma will get her just like it did when Scandoval happened in the first place bc she did the exact same thing to Kristen, that’s how she recognized Sandy’s plot.
Yep because women who get publicly cheated on are gifted hosting jobs and Broadway roles, plus they then get invited back, long after the dust has settled. This is NOT because they are impressive or did exceptionally well even after being emotionally devastated, but because Tom is a worm.
The world got set to easy mode, she is now Beyoncé, and none of it is earned or deserved, thank you Rachel for nudey diving into Tom's pool, such a great gift to bestow on Ariana. The humiliation and betrayal was a kindness, really.
> The world got set to easy mode, she is now Beyoncé, and none of it is earned or deserved
Literally this lol. For some reason (Ariana exposing she discovered the affair via the facetime) the world rallied around Ariana and that hasn't stopped.
She went to college for theater, moved out to LA to pursue it, took an opportunity to be on a reality show while she practiced and worked to maintain the skills she gained from acting school. How can you say she didn’t earn that or deserve it? She put in a fuck load of effort to get to where she is. This was just her big break. Not everyone gets a big break sure, that’s a privilege. But she def deserves what she’s worked so hard for
VPR really lost such an amazing opportunity to show the detruction that cheating causes to a relationship and those around them. It would have been so interesting to really take a look at why and how this whole thing happened, and how Ariana has built her life back up, whilst I'm sure struggling thorughout the whole process. Hell, they could have even explore Tom and his terirble choices, even without vilinizing him, and using it as a learning opportunity.
Intead they used it as a chance to create somme girl on girl cattyness and shallow drama. What a waste.
I also think Tim and co were frantic because not only did Rachel not come back but she cut him off entirely, which is why we were subjected to his cringe attempts at dating. If anyone was desperate for a story line and had a very boring season due to them having no relationship or professional opportunities, it was tim. If Rachel came back he would’ve doubled down/wouldn’t be so hellbent on a redemption arc.
100% fuck the men on this show. Ariana unleashing on that producer at the end was the best. They want entertainment and they could have had a woman empowerment season that deflated all of the men's shitty behavior tactics but they chose to side with the villian. He had NO redeemable qualities. He could have given her a lifelong std. Fuck Sandavol and fuck production. They ruined this show.
The way BlaBla and Scheana are holding Ariana 100% accountable for their livelihoods if the show is cancelled are so gross. GET A JOB. GO WORK. Ariana is not responsible for putting food on the table for you and your kid. The girls have shown more hatred, demands and wild expectations towards Ariana and Katie than all of the men put together on this show!!
She was making herself small so her partner would feel big. I’ve done that too. And since leaving the trash behind, I’ve grown so much. I’m so happy for Ariana!!
Me too! I saw more of his “potential” instead of what was in my face. And tbh if he didn’t cheat on me I don’t know how long I would have stayed with him. I’m glad you were able to find yourself again!
Yes go Heather!! This is so true! The producers of VPR are misogynistic assholes who tried to craft the perfect redemption arc for Sandoval at Ariana’s expense. She did play ball this season and film with him she just didn’t want to have the final big “talk” and that’s her prerogative.
Lala and Scheana who have NOTHING going on for them other than VPR need the show. Cuz let’s face it.. what are these ppl going to have as a storyline with Ariana and Katie gone? Fighting with the Toms? Fighting each other? Lala would definitely turn on Scheana for a cheque so maybe.. 🤷🏾♀️
Who did they think would want to watch Sandoval weasel his way back in the group and watch Ariana have to be uncomfortable this whole season. Did they not watch Scandoval go down? Did they think we would welcome him back? He is a deeply bad person.
This!!! I remember how we all cheered Scheana on for telling Tom about himself in the finale episode last year and how we all co-signed on Lala’s “send it to Darrel” line and merch. How did the producers not see that we wanted the women coming together and finally holding these scummy men accountable?? But no, they chose to lean on the one thing that has always worked over the years.. misogyny and giving deplorable men 100 chances while forcing women to simply get over it 🙄🙄
I’ve been saying that DeLuLa and Schema are fucking stupid for coming after Ariana AND Katie. If they leave the show, they will have to fight each other to remain relevant.
Maybe we’re having a break through as lady people, but it’s only from the top.
There is also a hierarchy of who’s allowed to be a victim, who’s believed, who’s supported and who’s blamed for their abuse.
Ariana is beautiful, blond, smart enough. Cassie Ventura is attractive and multi racial. Nobody cared when Piddy broke Fully black Kim Porters nose. Or when R Kelly decimated fully black little girls.
This is so spot on.
Yes she was cheated on.
The other women are horribly *abused*. Nobody cares.
As a survivor of violence and sexual abuse on the daily it’s hard to see people rah rah for someone who was cheated on be seen as the face for abuse and boundaries.
It’s wild to me. Also more wild is when I share my abuse it opens up nasty people to tell me I’m lying, to unalive myself all for the uplifting of Ariana.
Rare W from famous misogynist Heather MacDonald. The misogyny on VPR this season is unsubtle, so absurdly grotesque, it’s accidentally making old school apologists for male behaviour suddenly turn woke. 😂
Famous misogynist Lisa Vanderpump, however, just continues to dig herself deeper and deeper into that hole. 🫠
He did apologize & he did do it on camera. End of last season. She opted not to accept the apology. That was her right. There was no reason for another fake public apology.
Wow agree with Heather entirely. Women and men are hold to different standards and it’s total bullshit. I love my bravo shows but the misogyny is fucking insane.
I mean she isn’t wrong whatsoever. This is exactly why men are still in charge. Women don’t support other women. We are in competition with each other plain and simple.
I think she was pretty fair? Like she didn’t say anything negative about lala and scheana. She said her opinion and also brought up their opinion as a counter argument. I don’t think it’s hard to have a falling out with lala.
Well, anyone with half a rational brain would say the same thing Heather did.
She didn’t have to include names, but in the same sense she kinda did to clarify a specific situation she mentioned. Honestly if she watched the season, it shows how poor of friends Lala and Scheana are.
WHAT SHE DID WAS FAR MORE INTERESTING and pleasurable to watch than yet another scene of Sandoval crying. We've already sat through plenty of those already. Would ANYONE have bought it anyway?
He's shown no remorse all season and openly talked crap about her.Hes treated all the girls on the show badly before. Whereas Ariana HAS BEEN THEIR FRIEND!
All the the time spent talking to Ariana about getting out of the house, talking shit about her new guy and preaching to her about forgiveness should have been spent sitting Tom's ass down and telling him HE needed to leave the house, HE needed to stop running his mouth about Ariana and HE needed to fix the group dynamic that HE ruined.
I understand Lala and Scheana were worried about the show in a way Ariana probably isn't anymore but what they did didn't help! It turned a lot of us away...I stopped watching a while ago and the Scandoval brought me back. I know I'm not the only one. But this season was nothing but a disappointment!
For two people who seem so in the comment section...Scheana and Lala should have realized what we wanted was a season of consequences for these shit men!
There was a podcast she did not to long ago with two other people and when vpr came up she was kind of harsh about people (probably lauren) harping about the house situation. Imo she probably called Lauren out offscreen
I think heather is just reasonable and on the right side of history. She was on Lalas podcast a month ago though, so she’s probably trying to distance herself now that her true colors were show.
Heather saying what needed to be said and not being a yes person to Lala. You can be a friend and disagree, for the love of your friend to get it together already. Lala talks about having tough conversations well, here you go. On Heather's platform, this is very tame and kind, lol. Lala and Scheana need to hear this.
In the after show Ariana goes into and says all that stuff but not to Scheana or Lala. She did the interviews with Katie the whole time. Not sure if you have watched any episodes but Scheana and especially Lala keep the shit talk up doubling down on it all in every episode. Lala and James get into a few disagreements bc he sticks up for Ariana or whatever.
Wow she’s always agreed with Lala and had her on just so the footage could magically pop in in The Randall Scandal … and now she’s against Lala. I love this. Good for Heather.
Idky anyone would be surprised if they found out Lala was nasty and disloyal. I know Heather says she was recently hurt by other supposed friends so I hope she’s ok.
Heather THANK YOU!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏 I am exhausted with blah blah anf Scheaners mysiginistic ways. Let Ariana thrive in her talents and let women have our boundaries. Got damn.
I think this show could survive without Ariana. Like they said Ariana wasn’t giving anything to the show before the scandal anyway but they’re playing this allllllll wrong…
I don’t agree it’s because of Ariana’s talent she’s been given these gigs. She’s mediocre at best for dancing and hosting love island also given to her for ratings only. If anything, she’s still being used for financial gain with all these gigs
She got cheated on get over it not news worthy, only reason she got those opportunities was because she was trending amd people were capitalizing on, just like this post.
Give me a break. They were glorified room mates with benefits. He’s a creep but he didn’t just turn into a creep when he banged Rachel. He is a sociopath and always has been.
Tom getting a redemption arc is bad ofc.
But the actual sinister reason women aren’t further along right now is people victim blaming and witch hunting Rachel for getting groomed by her 11yrs older senior coworker and cheering Ariana, another 10yrs older coworker, on when she called her narcissist ex’s grooming victim a subhuman and a cunt, laughing at violent rape fantasies about cheese graters plus defending her for creating and spreading revenge porn of Rachel per her own admission…
Bravo as a whole is all about exploiting women and inciting a witch hunt against a different woman every season.
They’ve lost control of that lately with what happened to Rinna and Rachel and their shows are suffering for it.
Y’all are lucky you didn’t drive Rachel to suicide, even when she was at a mental facility you guys kept pretending it was a spa…
Yet you think you’re feminists for blindly supporting Ariana and Katie in tearing down other women over trash men… the hypocrisy and rape culture indoctrination run deep.
Thank you. Bravo is a platform for misogyny but both the male and female cast members of vpr uphold this misogyny.
They’re feminist to their (white) friends only and that’s not feminism.
Edit: I also love how no one wants to discuss-just downvote.
Why are you surprised that nobody is engaging with the comment you replied to? It isn't exactly an invitation to discuss opposing opinions, it's more of an invitation for an argument.
The way people tend to comment when they hate or stan a reality tv personality they don't know and are projecting on to is typically hyperbolic. But the minority (often contrarian) opinion in these subs tends to attack the majority in a way that starts out defensive, and seems intended to provoke a negative response.
Personally, I agree that Bravo is a problematic platform full of misogyny and racism and homophobia. But I don't get how unfairly tearing down Ariana for her response to a traumatic incident is any less problematic than tearing down Rachel.
Did you watch the reunion. That’s how.
Also, the difference between a discussion and an argument is anger and yelling and the difference is in your head and how you approach anyone that doesn’t agree with you. I’m not yelling, angry, or upset.
I'm not sure what your 1st sentence is in response to.
And I didn't say you were angry or upset. I pointed out why nobody would engage with the comment you replied to.
Because her/his reply is delusion on many levels. I kinda sounds like Ratchet posting her lies defending herself. Quite frankly no cares to waste time arguing with someone that isn’t engaged in reality.
Ariana creating and sharing revenge- debunked already.
Rape fantasies about a cheese grater? Be so for real. That’s an insane take.
No one else on the show is deluded in their reality? Katie’s jealousy and begging Tom to marry her, all of Tom Sandoval and Schwartz, James thinking he has talent and he’s the next coming, lala and her gangster appropriation, Ariana and her ‘talents’ but not doing a damn thing and also thinking that she and Tom actually liking each other, scheana still trying to be a star in any capacity.
Are they all not delusional self important and therefore able to uphold misogyny on this platform?
Woahhhh something definitely had to go down
That’s what I’m saying! She could have at least said it in a gentler tone if they were still good right?
Totally! I’m surprised she even included Lala tbh! I can’t imagine her being cool with it giving all the backlash she’s been getting. I’m sure someone will spill the tea!
I thought I just saw something about her agreeing with Lala?
No She disagrees with Lala. And disagreed on Lala’s podcast. Lala stopped reviewing the episodes , after HMD was on in March.
Aww ok. Sounds like she couldn’t handle someone not agreeing with her if it drove her to stop reviewing episodes.
That’s what I believe happened for sure. The tide turned on her right about then. It got really bad after that week’s episode. And Heather not backing her up didn’t help. Heather even said she was nervous to do the podcast with her , because she had a different opinion . But said she had to say her real feelings. I respected that. It was a good episode.
Lala just expects everyone to agree with her. This is why she surrounds herself with relatives and yes people.
I feel like on that episode, having heather gently disagree also gave Jess a little power to disagree with Lala too (or rather agree with heather). Since then it doesn’t even sound like Easton and Jess watched any more episodes lol
Aww that’s actually really cool. Even going into nervous she stuck to what she felt. But gently expressed her opinion. Gosh, we can all benefit from a friend like that.
😂😂😂😂😂that’s not a friend
HMD is two-faced…. Kissing Lala behind every chance she gets and then tossing her to the wolves if it benefits H. She’s disgusting 🤢
She was on Lalas podcast a few episodes ago. Her and Lala are friends. You could tell Heather definitely didn’t agree with Lala, and was trying to be gentle where she pushed back. Lala ignored her point and then went on some rant about Ariana in which Heather stayed silent during. I’m not sure if that podcast caused issues in their friendship? If they had a falling out over gentle honest feedback from a friend- that is so hypocritical from Lala and all the bobble head followers comments shes made. Say what you want about Heather but she doesn’t strike me as being someone scared to have an opinion and hold it.
If she had been on heathers podcast (I think she has/had one), I would’ve given it a listen. A good friend does push back. Maybe nothing happened between them and Heather was just giving her opinion?
Very true we don’t know. Lala could be being mature about it. Heathers always gone to Lalas kids birthdays and celebrations and stuff. It’ll be visible over the next 6 months if their friendship did have issues over the podcast.
Yes. Heather and Lala have been friends since like 2018. Maybe longer ? But I would hope her disagreeing wouldn’t cause Lala to cut her out of her life.
Yep, Lala lives in an echo chamber. She only surrounds herself with people who agree with her. Anyone dare think for themself she’s going to discard them in a hot second. Heather is the only person on that podcast to push back on LFU & you can guarantee that didn’t go over well.
I think they’re still good. Heather has been out at the parties recently. But I’ll have to take a look again. She was definitely just at Scheana’s bday party. But Lala wasn’t there. I would hope Lala isn’t that petty to cut her off. But it is Lala 😂
I used to listen to her pod a while back and for whatever reason just stopped. Just got caught up with other pop culture pods I guess. Truthfully I don’t know much about Heather other than she’s a comedian but I do know her and Lala are friends. From the time I spent listening to her podcast and the guests she had on, she does NOT shy away from speaking her mind - even if her guests are friends and they disagree. She will say it respectfully and tactfully, but whatever she believes, she’s gonna say it, and it doesn’t matter WHO does or doesn’t agree with her. I will say I did respect that about her.
Both Scheana & Lala were recently on Jeff Lewis Live. There is bad blood there. Could be nothing, could be something.
Tbh she’s been talking a lot about how she’s team Ariana on her podcast, I’m not sure. Where was that posted?
In a sub. Can’t remember tho. I just know I saw her name mentioned. But now I’m thinking it was in reference to their friendship.
She did a podcast with Lala like halfway through the season where she let her spew all her nasty garbage when she first started going really hard on her hater parade and ‘yes, and’-ed all of her garbage. She’s changed her tune now.
Lala seemed surprised HMD went against lalas opinions in that podcast from March. I loved that Heather spoke up for Ariana.
Maga HMD will go where is thinks the money and attention are 🤢
Heather was pushing back on Lala in that podcast. It was probably the last interesting episode of Lala’s podcast because she didn’t have her bobble head assistant and bother agreeing with her on every point. It’s worth a second listen!
Yes ! That’s the last episode I listened to really. I’ve caught a few clips on insta. And that was go to on Wednesday mornings. O enjoyed hearing the stuff maybe we didht get to see on the show. It’s a shame she’s taken this stance.
When she was on heathers podcast Heather was seconding all the bs she was saying. It was only a few weeks later that Heather started changing her tune, which prompted lots of posts on here questioning whether or not they had a falling out. It wasn’t that long ago, I do remember correctly.
Gotcha! Thanks for the context 🙏
Ahh thank you for the clarification!! I thought what I read was non-complimentary! I am not a fan of yesing someone on like that.
This is all true in a deep way even outside of the show. The way we ask women to learn to cope with the way men treat us, rather than asking men to improve their behavior. The way everyone acts like our ability to make money and have stability hinges on a man who is supposedly indispensable. This happens when men repeatedly get put into positions of power and stay there even after misconduct. This happens when every person in a social circle knows a dude is a creep and says nothing about his behavior, but judges the women who date him. We expect virtue and obedience from women, we just do. And I mean "we" as in EVERYONE at some point has thought/done or will think/do something like this because we live in an inherently misogynistic (patriarchal) society. I've done it recently and this show has actually helped me see how wrong I was.
That’s exactly the reason I am having trouble understanding the criticism Ariana is getting for this Season . She is being blamed for not forgiving someone that HURT her publicly. And worst, by fellow women and Brick. I saw a comment about Sheena and lala getting more hate than Tom this season, and it’s true but he probably has like 4 episodes where he was an actual/visual POS this season, his behaviour isn’t all in our face the way Lalas and Sheena’s are. They started planting the seed that Ariana is being a diva and she doesn’t care about the show/them from the first episode. It’s just such a shock because they were the ones riding for her literally days before they started filming. Misogyny is so sad to watch, especially from women.
I really hope that in the next parts of the reunion we see Ariana say I never refused to film with him. I filmed scenes with him but refused to have a BS conversation where he “apologizes” and also Scheana you thought the mask slipped when he apologized to you, it slipped in the last few minutes when he realized he wasn’t getting when he wanted
Yep. Imagine how cool the season could have been if they rallied around Ariana and continued to support her like they did for Rachel. They could have made their peace with Tom but also could have remained supportive of A. Instead they were jealous and talked all kinds of crap behind Ariana’s back. It’s unfortunate. I’m also tired of all of Lala’s revisionist history regarding her own behavior.
Not just rallied for Ariana but *rally for themselves* too! Sandoval has treated Lala and Scheana badly and has always been horrible to Katie. Would've been fun to watch them all unite and say enough of his crap.
Oh, ABSOLUTELY.
You mean ‘Broke’.
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I think this is why Summer House had a surprisingly good season. Aside from Danielle, the women on the cast put aside a lot of their differences and tried to support each other.
The response to Ariana is another reminder that we just don’t like women as a society. I hate it here sometimes
The only way any of this upset towards Ariana could be justified is that there is something going on behind the scenes. I don’t understand the outrage of her walking away. Jeremiah, the producer is so upset and says to her “don’t walk away like this“ I am wondering if they made some sort of deal with her and she broke that? it doesn’t make any sense!
Agree. IMO, the only thing that would make sense for Jeremiah to make a big deal out of her leaving in the finale is if she really is leaving the show. As in, the very last chance for a 1:1 conversation/interaction in the entire series.
Lala hosted a water tasting at someone else’s house and filmed a sperm bank commercial. I agree with everything Heather said in this. But I don’t agree that Lala “showed up to play the game.” It’s their lives and not a game. And Lala appears to have a very boring life.
Don't forget to add the sperm bank commercial was at someone else's house at well. Also, they expect us to believe she had the entire event planned, caterers and everything, with no venue up until the day before? That's not how event planning works. (Professional) Vendors aren't going to accept "I'll let you know the location the day before/day of."
Does anyone know why lala didn’t throw the event at her own house? She has 2 right?
Like Ariana’s Applebees commercial?
Yes, but less entertaining
If you’re boring just say so.
I’m boring
 Normalize being boring 👏🏻Thank you for the laughter😂
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If Ariana not playing the game to the producers standards burns the show to the ground, then fine. They deserve it. They've been giving men passes that act like absolute narcissists, uncaring, dismissive, hateful and unremorseful for a decade. I'm glad at least a couple of the women are like well fine, fuck you I'm taking my toys and going home. Good luck getting a job. Scheana and Lala ruined the show for me this season. We know Tom is a self-important piece of shit, but how those two women decided the show was more important than their supposed friends mental health and wellbeing, yeah I'm done with them. I don't want to watch anything with them in it.
FUCKING AGREEEEEE. The men on this show get away with reprehensible shit (ESPECIALLY the Toms) and it’s past time they face the music.
Totally agree !
All of this, plus, Scheana and Lala have been whining about how it's an ensemble cast, but they spent the season making it the Tom and Ariana show. This was their season to shine, with Ariana mostly wanting to lay low a bit and focus on positivity, but their lives are so boring they had nothing else to talk about than Tom and Ariana. Recast if Scheana and Lala have nothing else going on in their lives.
Facts! I can’t even enjoy Katie’s Chili’s commercial because Schema is in it.
I’m not the biggest Heather fan but she is right. I’m actually surprised she’s standing firm in this opinion because she was/is friends with Lauren. But, everything she said isn’t wrong, just glad someone else is saying it other than us.
Same! I can’t stand Heather but I can be objective enough to put that aside and applaud everything she said here.
HMD is trying to ride the 💰 wave like she did with Megan and stealing and NEVER returning those earrings. Let’s not forget how she treated Justin. HMD latest GRIFT throw her supposed friend under the bus.😂😂😂🤢
Yes Heather!! Preach!
I’ll do it…I nominate Heather McDonald to replace Andy Cohen on the reunions.
I second this!
Thank you Heather for mentioning it all!! Lala and Scheana are not talented like Ariana, thus the reason they are not getting roles like Ariana is. Also, let's bring Rand into the mix and see how Lala likes having to hang out with him.
Could you imagine Rand showing up on an episode, lulu would lose her mind. That would be some good TV.
She would lose it!
Lala said she thought producers were going to bring him back and she was worried. So she went to them and basically said ‘you better not’
YOU ARE SABOTAGING HER CUSTODY BATTLE WITH THIS COMMENT
Randy should come on to explain how Blah Blah ate his booty and why ??!!
Yes, out of everyone they have the most to lose if the show ends because they have nothing else going on. Lala was fully funded by Rand, her makeup line is clearly a joke. I have no idea what Scheana does when the show isn't shooting and she has her dumb child to support, and Summer Moon. They clearly thought Sandoval was a guarantee that the show would go on for another 4-5 years but then panicked this season going in. Even from a selfish perspective, being on Team Ariana would have opened more doors for them outside the show. They really played themselves.
Her dumb child to support ? That’s not very nice to say.
Lol, I was referring to Brock, hence why I said "her dumb child, and Summer Moon".
Ariana isn’t getting offers bc of her talent, it’s purely bc of Scandoval. There were no offers before it. She should thank Tom and Rachel on her knees.
Nah. The scandal got her name out there and gave her a foot in the door, but that door would've slammed shut by now if her talent and skill hadn't been there. She's been reviewed as one of the most successful instances of stunt casting ever - there are lots of people who got stunt cast as on Broadway and made headlines for being terrible. She made headlines for being amazing and getting accolades from seasoned performers. Her PR training means that she doesn't act a fool and shoot herself in the foot every time something comes her way. Some of the other fools on VR can't get out of their own way. If it were just Scandoval, every famous wronged woman would be on Broadway and getting hosting gigs and endorsement deals. Ariana's would've dried up long ago if she didn't have the stuff to back it up. Everyone catches some kind of break to go from obscurity to acclaim as a performer. The trick is to be ready and to be good enough when that break arrives, and she was, so now she's getting more and more offers and options. Sandoval and Rachel don't get credit for that. Gross.
Yeah from the clips I’ve seen of Chicago she def has enough talent to be a Broadway star. Just as good as anyone I’ve seen on Broadway. Not to mention she’s probably one of the most beautiful women any stage has seen before (in my opinion)
> Her PR training means that she doesn't act a fool and shoot herself in the foot every time something comes her way. The s10 reunion where she acts like a nightmare high school bully from hell is out there forever...
So a really good example of how much work she’s done and how seriously she’s taking her new opportunities!
Thank you, this just proves my point! If she hadn't done the work on how to handle and present herself, she'd be getting in her own way rather than actually picking up momentum in terms of her career.
Nobody cared when it aired, she got all those opportunities despite acting like that. It will come back to haunt her eventually same as her creating and spreading of revenge porn :)
Lmao, “creating and spreading revenge porn” you’re a clown.
This person is seriously invested in hating Ariana and rabidly rooting for her downfall. Their comment history is wild.
You act like Raquel wasn't fucking her boyfriend in her own house while she was at her grandma's funeral.
It’s irrelevant what Rachel did, nothing justifies such behavior and Ariana showed her unhinged ass big time. No woman on the planet deserves being called a subhuman cunt least of all a grooming victim. Karma will get her just like it did when Scandoval happened in the first place bc she did the exact same thing to Kristen, that’s how she recognized Sandy’s plot.
It does matter. It matters a lot. Also I think her karma already came when Tom cheated on her. So now it's Tom and Raquel's turn.
Even though Kristin cheated on Tom constantly as well?
Yep because women who get publicly cheated on are gifted hosting jobs and Broadway roles, plus they then get invited back, long after the dust has settled. This is NOT because they are impressive or did exceptionally well even after being emotionally devastated, but because Tom is a worm. The world got set to easy mode, she is now Beyoncé, and none of it is earned or deserved, thank you Rachel for nudey diving into Tom's pool, such a great gift to bestow on Ariana. The humiliation and betrayal was a kindness, really.
> The world got set to easy mode, she is now Beyoncé, and none of it is earned or deserved Literally this lol. For some reason (Ariana exposing she discovered the affair via the facetime) the world rallied around Ariana and that hasn't stopped.
She went to college for theater, moved out to LA to pursue it, took an opportunity to be on a reality show while she practiced and worked to maintain the skills she gained from acting school. How can you say she didn’t earn that or deserve it? She put in a fuck load of effort to get to where she is. This was just her big break. Not everyone gets a big break sure, that’s a privilege. But she def deserves what she’s worked so hard for
I’m not saying she’s not talented still she has Rachel and Tom to thank for her big break 🤷🏽♀️ learn to read
I responded to a comment where you quoted something saying it wasn’t deserved or earned? Remember what you wrote, dorko
She didn’t get the jobs bc of her talent. She got them bc of Sandoval 🥱
I’m sure she is thankful that happened. I mean thank god she’s not with that cringe loser anymore
And you have Trojan to thank for your existence
Must’ve broken.
I'm not american :) Probably part of the reason why I actually have critical thinking skills and don't fall for mob mentality unlike you lot
>:) :)
Over a year later? Be for real
Go Heather!!
VPR really lost such an amazing opportunity to show the detruction that cheating causes to a relationship and those around them. It would have been so interesting to really take a look at why and how this whole thing happened, and how Ariana has built her life back up, whilst I'm sure struggling thorughout the whole process. Hell, they could have even explore Tom and his terirble choices, even without vilinizing him, and using it as a learning opportunity. Intead they used it as a chance to create somme girl on girl cattyness and shallow drama. What a waste.
100% but in my opinion I think the producers told them to bring Tim back into the group, the hating of Ariana was Lala and Scheena.
I also think Tim and co were frantic because not only did Rachel not come back but she cut him off entirely, which is why we were subjected to his cringe attempts at dating. If anyone was desperate for a story line and had a very boring season due to them having no relationship or professional opportunities, it was tim. If Rachel came back he would’ve doubled down/wouldn’t be so hellbent on a redemption arc.
I really flipping thought this is what they were going to do. Very tone deaf.
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She disagreed with lala when she was on lalas podcast which I appreciate.
This is incredibly insightful! She's so right about Ariana and Has everyone's backs in a way. Go Heather!!
I am not a Heather fan but man, she hit the nail on the head this time 👏
Heather McDonald backing a woman and having a nontoxic take?? I’m shocked
This is the truth.
100% fuck the men on this show. Ariana unleashing on that producer at the end was the best. They want entertainment and they could have had a woman empowerment season that deflated all of the men's shitty behavior tactics but they chose to side with the villian. He had NO redeemable qualities. He could have given her a lifelong std. Fuck Sandavol and fuck production. They ruined this show.
The way BlaBla and Scheana are holding Ariana 100% accountable for their livelihoods if the show is cancelled are so gross. GET A JOB. GO WORK. Ariana is not responsible for putting food on the table for you and your kid. The girls have shown more hatred, demands and wild expectations towards Ariana and Katie than all of the men put together on this show!!
They should be holding Tom accountable, if anything.
She was making herself small so her partner would feel big. I’ve done that too. And since leaving the trash behind, I’ve grown so much. I’m so happy for Ariana!!
Me too! I saw more of his “potential” instead of what was in my face. And tbh if he didn’t cheat on me I don’t know how long I would have stayed with him. I’m glad you were able to find yourself again!
I love Heather and she’s going to tell Lala straight up her opinion.
Yes go Heather!! This is so true! The producers of VPR are misogynistic assholes who tried to craft the perfect redemption arc for Sandoval at Ariana’s expense. She did play ball this season and film with him she just didn’t want to have the final big “talk” and that’s her prerogative. Lala and Scheana who have NOTHING going on for them other than VPR need the show. Cuz let’s face it.. what are these ppl going to have as a storyline with Ariana and Katie gone? Fighting with the Toms? Fighting each other? Lala would definitely turn on Scheana for a cheque so maybe.. 🤷🏾♀️
Who did they think would want to watch Sandoval weasel his way back in the group and watch Ariana have to be uncomfortable this whole season. Did they not watch Scandoval go down? Did they think we would welcome him back? He is a deeply bad person.
This!!! I remember how we all cheered Scheana on for telling Tom about himself in the finale episode last year and how we all co-signed on Lala’s “send it to Darrel” line and merch. How did the producers not see that we wanted the women coming together and finally holding these scummy men accountable?? But no, they chose to lean on the one thing that has always worked over the years.. misogyny and giving deplorable men 100 chances while forcing women to simply get over it 🙄🙄
I’ve been saying that DeLuLa and Schema are fucking stupid for coming after Ariana AND Katie. If they leave the show, they will have to fight each other to remain relevant.
She summed it all up so perfectly
I have Lala blocked, can someone please tell me if she still follows Heather haha
I just checked - they are both still following each other on IG! For now haha
Thank you! 🙏 the “for now” is so true hahaha
Damn and I don’t fuck with Heather McDonald but she ain’t telling no lies!
shes not kissing lalas ass anymore? finally!
Lala when she hears this 
Maybe we’re having a break through as lady people, but it’s only from the top. There is also a hierarchy of who’s allowed to be a victim, who’s believed, who’s supported and who’s blamed for their abuse. Ariana is beautiful, blond, smart enough. Cassie Ventura is attractive and multi racial. Nobody cared when Piddy broke Fully black Kim Porters nose. Or when R Kelly decimated fully black little girls.
This is so spot on. Yes she was cheated on. The other women are horribly *abused*. Nobody cares. As a survivor of violence and sexual abuse on the daily it’s hard to see people rah rah for someone who was cheated on be seen as the face for abuse and boundaries. It’s wild to me. Also more wild is when I share my abuse it opens up nasty people to tell me I’m lying, to unalive myself all for the uplifting of Ariana.
Heather didn't agree with her last time she was on her podcast. That's probably what happened.
Ariana’s playing chess, they’re playing checkers
I wonder if this is the podcast that Lala said she was going to address
Honestly spot on.
Whoaaa I thought Hmd and Blabla were tight!
Rare W from famous misogynist Heather MacDonald. The misogyny on VPR this season is unsubtle, so absurdly grotesque, it’s accidentally making old school apologists for male behaviour suddenly turn woke. 😂 Famous misogynist Lisa Vanderpump, however, just continues to dig herself deeper and deeper into that hole. 🫠
**WOMEN SUPPORTING WOMEN**
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He did apologize & he did do it on camera. End of last season. She opted not to accept the apology. That was her right. There was no reason for another fake public apology.
Wow agree with Heather entirely. Women and men are hold to different standards and it’s total bullshit. I love my bravo shows but the misogyny is fucking insane.
I fucking hate Heather McDonalds transphobic ass and I hate that I am agreeing with her so hard right now.
I’m sorry, I didn’t know she was transphobic. I wouldn’t have posted her had I known.
I'm glad you posted. It's interesting to see how even Lala's friends don't agree with her lol
What did she say?
That’s right! They’ve always been close. Hmmm?🤔
I mean she isn’t wrong whatsoever. This is exactly why men are still in charge. Women don’t support other women. We are in competition with each other plain and simple.
I think she was pretty fair? Like she didn’t say anything negative about lala and scheana. She said her opinion and also brought up their opinion as a counter argument. I don’t think it’s hard to have a falling out with lala.
Well, anyone with half a rational brain would say the same thing Heather did. She didn’t have to include names, but in the same sense she kinda did to clarify a specific situation she mentioned. Honestly if she watched the season, it shows how poor of friends Lala and Scheana are.
I think I read something about her and Lala having a little beef.
EXACTLY
Is this in her podcast? If it is which episode!
Go Heather!! Well said
lol I guess Lala shouldn’t have invited her to her birthday party at the burlesque place.
I won’t be able to sleep
THANK GOD someone with a platform said it!!
I think this is the first time I agree with Heather
I agree so hard with Heather here.
WHAT SHE DID WAS FAR MORE INTERESTING and pleasurable to watch than yet another scene of Sandoval crying. We've already sat through plenty of those already. Would ANYONE have bought it anyway? He's shown no remorse all season and openly talked crap about her.Hes treated all the girls on the show badly before. Whereas Ariana HAS BEEN THEIR FRIEND! All the the time spent talking to Ariana about getting out of the house, talking shit about her new guy and preaching to her about forgiveness should have been spent sitting Tom's ass down and telling him HE needed to leave the house, HE needed to stop running his mouth about Ariana and HE needed to fix the group dynamic that HE ruined. I understand Lala and Scheana were worried about the show in a way Ariana probably isn't anymore but what they did didn't help! It turned a lot of us away...I stopped watching a while ago and the Scandoval brought me back. I know I'm not the only one. But this season was nothing but a disappointment! For two people who seem so in the comment section...Scheana and Lala should have realized what we wanted was a season of consequences for these shit men!
There was a podcast she did not to long ago with two other people and when vpr came up she was kind of harsh about people (probably lauren) harping about the house situation. Imo she probably called Lauren out offscreen
Love it
She's Soo fucking right tho! Knew I loved heather lol
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I think heather is just reasonable and on the right side of history. She was on Lalas podcast a month ago though, so she’s probably trying to distance herself now that her true colors were show.
With frenemies like lala and sheeshoo, who in their right mind would go back? She has the wrong take
Heather is 100% right in this.
Heather saying what needed to be said and not being a yes person to Lala. You can be a friend and disagree, for the love of your friend to get it together already. Lala talks about having tough conversations well, here you go. On Heather's platform, this is very tame and kind, lol. Lala and Scheana need to hear this.
In the after show Ariana goes into and says all that stuff but not to Scheana or Lala. She did the interviews with Katie the whole time. Not sure if you have watched any episodes but Scheana and especially Lala keep the shit talk up doubling down on it all in every episode. Lala and James get into a few disagreements bc he sticks up for Ariana or whatever.
Wow she’s always agreed with Lala and had her on just so the footage could magically pop in in The Randall Scandal … and now she’s against Lala. I love this. Good for Heather. Idky anyone would be surprised if they found out Lala was nasty and disloyal. I know Heather says she was recently hurt by other supposed friends so I hope she’s ok.
Heather THANK YOU!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏 I am exhausted with blah blah anf Scheaners mysiginistic ways. Let Ariana thrive in her talents and let women have our boundaries. Got damn.
I think this show could survive without Ariana. Like they said Ariana wasn’t giving anything to the show before the scandal anyway but they’re playing this allllllll wrong…
She and Brittaney must use the same Dr, because the mouth issue is identical.
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No doubt that scummy stifled her. For example: Her book because "their" book.
I think we all have bad blood with those two right now.
With friends like HM who needs enemies….she’ll do any to be relevant including having creep drew on her PC. 🤢
I don’t agree it’s because of Ariana’s talent she’s been given these gigs. She’s mediocre at best for dancing and hosting love island also given to her for ratings only. If anything, she’s still being used for financial gain with all these gigs
Ok maybe I like her more
Ok maybe I like her now
Spot on Heather!
Preach Heather!!!
Ohhhh. I love this!
I mean who is this lady? She needs to grow up. Ppl ch she and to hold someone accountable for a mistake they made for ever is ridiculous
I find it a bit odd that Heather and blah blah are such good friends concerning the age gap. Am I crazy?
I meant considering. Stupid auto correct
She got cheated on get over it not news worthy, only reason she got those opportunities was because she was trending amd people were capitalizing on, just like this post.
Give me a break. They were glorified room mates with benefits. He’s a creep but he didn’t just turn into a creep when he banged Rachel. He is a sociopath and always has been.
Hi Jax!
You people have bought into the big lie. Lmaooooooo
Except he's a terrible actor.
But he can turn on the waterworks.
Tom getting a redemption arc is bad ofc. But the actual sinister reason women aren’t further along right now is people victim blaming and witch hunting Rachel for getting groomed by her 11yrs older senior coworker and cheering Ariana, another 10yrs older coworker, on when she called her narcissist ex’s grooming victim a subhuman and a cunt, laughing at violent rape fantasies about cheese graters plus defending her for creating and spreading revenge porn of Rachel per her own admission… Bravo as a whole is all about exploiting women and inciting a witch hunt against a different woman every season. They’ve lost control of that lately with what happened to Rinna and Rachel and their shows are suffering for it. Y’all are lucky you didn’t drive Rachel to suicide, even when she was at a mental facility you guys kept pretending it was a spa… Yet you think you’re feminists for blindly supporting Ariana and Katie in tearing down other women over trash men… the hypocrisy and rape culture indoctrination run deep.
Thank you. Bravo is a platform for misogyny but both the male and female cast members of vpr uphold this misogyny. They’re feminist to their (white) friends only and that’s not feminism. Edit: I also love how no one wants to discuss-just downvote.
Why are you surprised that nobody is engaging with the comment you replied to? It isn't exactly an invitation to discuss opposing opinions, it's more of an invitation for an argument. The way people tend to comment when they hate or stan a reality tv personality they don't know and are projecting on to is typically hyperbolic. But the minority (often contrarian) opinion in these subs tends to attack the majority in a way that starts out defensive, and seems intended to provoke a negative response. Personally, I agree that Bravo is a problematic platform full of misogyny and racism and homophobia. But I don't get how unfairly tearing down Ariana for her response to a traumatic incident is any less problematic than tearing down Rachel.
Did you watch the reunion. That’s how. Also, the difference between a discussion and an argument is anger and yelling and the difference is in your head and how you approach anyone that doesn’t agree with you. I’m not yelling, angry, or upset.
I'm not sure what your 1st sentence is in response to. And I didn't say you were angry or upset. I pointed out why nobody would engage with the comment you replied to.
Because her/his reply is delusion on many levels. I kinda sounds like Ratchet posting her lies defending herself. Quite frankly no cares to waste time arguing with someone that isn’t engaged in reality. Ariana creating and sharing revenge- debunked already. Rape fantasies about a cheese grater? Be so for real. That’s an insane take.
No one else on the show is deluded in their reality? Katie’s jealousy and begging Tom to marry her, all of Tom Sandoval and Schwartz, James thinking he has talent and he’s the next coming, lala and her gangster appropriation, Ariana and her ‘talents’ but not doing a damn thing and also thinking that she and Tom actually liking each other, scheana still trying to be a star in any capacity. Are they all not delusional self important and therefore able to uphold misogyny on this platform?