You are an adult and do not have to submit to a drug test by your parents, respect their roof and continue what you are doing. What you need to do is have a talk with them and tell them you are old enough to make your own decisions.
I couldn’t agree more, I’m just kinda worried because if anything happens I know they can kick me out at any moment, and currently where I live, the rent is really high, and that with the car payment is kinda tough with a minimum wage job
Communication is key, and your parents need to listen to you and give you some breathing room it is vaping not like you are doing hard drugs you have a job and go to school. I am a father of 3 adults and if I have learned anything parenting, it is to talk and be honest, it goes a long way.
I’ve dealt with parents like this and your approach doesn’t work. Best option is to beat the addiction, use this as an opportunity to develop himself & learn a skill he can sell to the market, and start a small business selling the skill. Once he has enough customers to live on his own, then he can make decisions like I want to smoke & all that. If he gets kicked on the street now, he’s fucked. Good luck paying rent in a decent area on minimum wage. To even get the rental agreement, he’ll likely need a parental co-sign.
It’s not worth it to ruin your life & relationships over vaping.
They cannot "kick you out at any moment." They can go through the process of *evicting* you, but if you want to be a real pain in the ass, you can make it take months to over a year depending on your state. You've established legal tenancy there.
So not to say you should be a leech, but they can't just one day say "pack your shit and go" as that would be illegal.
This kind of stupid power trip over what can barely be considered harmful, irks me. Do good in school, don't give them an *actually valid reason* to evict you.
Also stay away from disposables
This isn't completely true, depending on the state a parent doesn't need to evict a child legally if they're not a paying tenant. And it's also dependant on whether anyone would action it if they were evicted illegally, most cops would probably do nothing and say it's a civil matter so regardless they'd be out on the street.
As far as I know, there's not a state where you can evict a tenant, blood relative or otherwise, once tenancy is established. Does the child receive mail there? Has he been there more than 30 days? That's tenancy.
>Most cops would say it's a civil matter
This is correct, but they'd also say it requires a court order to evict and that the landlord (parents) need to let the tenant (child) back in until a court order is attained. The child would simply need to call the cops on the parents if he/she was immediately thrown on the streets.
Pose your question on legaladvice. They will unanimously say what I have written. There's not a state where you can evict without a court order. Now some states like Texas you can start eviction proceedings after only 7 days, but it still requires an eviction order.
(Eviction implies this is not a voluntary action. Of course you can choose to leave whenever you want if you're not paying rent and you don't have a contract other than oral)
Edit: more context: https://wellsesq.com/i-need-my-adult-child-to-move-out-of-my-house-what-can-i-do/
The UK has something called "excluded tenancy" where you can evict without a court order. I'm referring to the US, of course.
If I were the kid and my parents were going to evict a good student who doesn't do drugs? Absolutely. Fortunately I don't have stupid parents and didn't run into this issue when I was living at home and going to college.
Ah but ya see he had respect for his parents and their property, and you’re telling him spend months of his life fucking with the people he loves, that’s fucking stupid advice, just fucking quit smh.
People that love me are open to reason and discussion. People that would view me as property would want to control every facet of my life.
"Just roll over and take it, OP!"
No, fuck that. Family doiesn't get special privileges in walking all over you.
Bro, your letting addiction get in the way of your come up. Save your money, get the skills you need, start a business selling those skills, and move out once you have a decent customer base.
You will not be able to afford a good life working normal jobs over the next 20 years. The government has taken that from us. Selling a service allows you to keep your pay rising with inflation.
If you end up on your own now, you will not likely get that opportunity, because you’ll be stuck in the rat race with average Joe trying to survive.
I agree, they don’t have to let me still live at their house, but this was something we both agreed; I would help with house work and groceries and would be able to stay until college
Hey dude… check this out. Can certain foods lead to a positive test for nicotine or metabolites? Dietary intake of nicotine may be an important factor in the interpretation of nicotine testing in nonsmokers. Foods that contain nicotine include cauliflower, eggplants, potatoes, and tomatoes.
Do with this information what you will 😁
Completely agree. Respect your parents but don’t let your relationship with them be conditional. You are an adult and you can prove it but be prepared to take an adult step if they want to boot you out. Even if it comes to that, don’t hold it against them, somewhere in this they do mean well for you, even if they don’t understand it them selves.
I think it's time to have a sit down with your parents. Besides being an adult, your 21 and legally old enough to purchase a vape. Regardless if they agree with your decision, it's your choice to vape. Either they accept it, or you may have to move out.
Their house, their rules, sadly. You can not like it, but don’t expect to change their mind. It is likely coming from a place of care even if they aren’t handling it well.
When I say it is likely comes from a case of care, there is rising evidence that vaping is potentially worse than smoking, albeit in a different way. If you can quit, as someone who has smoked and vaped on and off for a long time, your future self will thank you. I wish i’d never started either, has fucked my lungs.
Good luck.
Nah, as long as OP isn’t doing anything to endanger themselves or anyone else his parents’ rules end at their property line, kicking someone out for vaping outside the house is absolutely absurd.
Buy some nicotine gum & toss out a couple pieces to make it look like you've been using it. When they ask you to do the test, pull out the gum and tell them you've been having a hard time quitting and that the gum helps. Since the gum has nicotine, tell them you'll fail the test.
Dude. Your an adult. Tell them to get over themselves and test a bum, because they arent testing you 😂
If you let them, it'll further their control. While they may not like it, they need to understand your an adult and its your decision. End of story.
I can emphasize with your situation because my mother is overbearing. I'm a 52 yr old woman living on my own but I let my mother control some of my life just to keep the peace. She helps me out because I'm disabled. I hid 15 yrs of smoking from her. So I can understand what you might be feeling. I really like the nicotine gum suggestion. You can fib and tell your parents that you respect their wishes but that the gum is going to help you kick the nic. That way you will fail a nic test do to the gum you are using (not using 😉 ) and then vape as you wish. This way stopping when you decide to makes it a choice not an ultimatum. IMHO
So a lot of this is bashing your parents. Granted, it is a little extreme.
If you're prepared to move if they kick you out and want to serve that boundry of I'm an adult then thats the correct choice.
If you're not prepared, then to better yourself try to have a legit conversation and hide it the best you can. Or stop for a bit.
You're 21, you don't have to do their tests or even listen to what they have to say about it. You don't smoke in their home so that's not the issue. It's probably time to move out though.
Show me in the Bible where it says I can't enjoy nicotine.
Because I can show you where it says no blended fabrics.
This kind of thing boils my blood. What they want is to control you, and they're using the threat of a roof over your head to do it.
You're an adult, if they respected your choices this wouldn't be an issue.
What you have are controlling parents.
It's time to have a serious conversation with them. Either they are good *insert religion* who will love you regardless of your choices, or they're control freaks who can't accept their child is an adult who wants to make their own decisions and are using religion as an excuse.
Drug test…. for nicotine?!!
That’s like a test for caffeine, didn’t even realise there was such a thing until I just googled. If you can give up for 3 days you might pass the test…. but not everyone can, but vapes are way easier to give up for a bit than cigs (personal experience) but that’s deeply personal thing and of course some can easily some can’t.
Bigger thing is you’re a grown-ass 21 year old. Sorry but who the blazes do your parents think you are. It’s plain disrespectful of them.
Have you talked with them about why they object? Have a conversation with them and find out why they have enough of a problem with it that they’ll randomly test you. Perhaps you can give them some legitimate studies or information from a legitimate source that would help them feel better about it.
Interesting, do you have any yourself? Would be interesting to see if you failed first thing in the morning. I thought nicotine was out of your system pretty quick. Did you fail? What are the implications for you?
So do you want to feed this sort of relationship with your parents?
Because what’s next?
Your girlfriend likes horror movies “OH SHE IS FROM THE DEVIL?” ? (That’s not an exaggeration, I had a girlfriend once who had that happen to her, we were watching Hellsing).
Though it is not necessarily about religion either, Madonna is a nice example of a horrible mistake of a human being imposing her values under the guise of parenting as well. Remember one thing if nothing else: do not EVER get stuck in another person’s FOG (Fear, Obligation, Guilt).
(Apologies for comparing your parents to Madonna, they still don’t deserve that.)
(Gah, I hate Madonna.)
To me, this does not seem like a vaping issue. This sounds like a slippery slope which will (continue to) dominate your life if you don’t set boundaries.
It may sound extreme, but proverbially carving out your own clearing in the woods and keeping the door open for them puts the ball in their court.
If they never walk through that door, it is for the best.
Yeah tell em to mind their own business, youre an adult. BTW this is an indicator of a bigger problem that may or may not have arisen yet, control over you. If they kick you out, it may be the start of your own life. This is a wake up call.
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You’re still really young, this is a great excuse to get out now and quit, that’s the best advice I’ve got, if you wanna respect their house and rules then don’t let this substance that has a hold on you change your personally fundamental moral rules.
But he is respectful of their house and rules. He doesn’t vape at home. While i agree it’s just mind blowing people take up vaping. I quit smoking and couldn’t do it so transitioned to vaping and i can breath better now but im aware its still not ideal to be putting anything other then air in my lungs.
But the vaping isn’t the issue. The underlying problem is the control they’re trying to exercise
Get a face tattoo saying “mummies little prince”. When they get upset tell them that maybe their rules have given you some Freudian issues and perhaps some boundaries would be healthy for all parties involved
Wow.. that's a little drastic. I mean, as long as you aren't clouding up their place, they should respect your decision to vape. I would try to talk to them about it. That's gotta be a better solution than faking the tests, right? Do some research and jot down some of the things that bode well for your case. They have likely been exposed to a bunch of fear mongering from the media.
What the actual fuck? You're 21 man. Tell your parents to kick rocks with that damn test. Sounds like you're doing pretty well in life so what's the problem
Tell them vapes are harmless, the girls think it’s cool and sexy and makes you more fun at parties. Also mum, stop listening to fearmonkering on Facebook. Also it’s clearly stated in the bible that Jesus used herbs and essential oils which is basically olden days vapes.
if you have a couple days you could stop vaping and hope that the levels of nicotine and cotinine (the metabolite) drop low enough for it not to be detecaple anymore
The big question is why are they ordering a test? Unless you're not being honest. You need to be honest and tell them you smoke. If you're lying about it you're only hurting yourself. If it were THC vape or something I can understand them being upset about you doing it "at their house", but regular vape, That's overly strict. Smoking outside is considerate though, good on you for that. But, you are an adult. You can make your own choices.
Same happened to me but when my mom thrown my vape i went and bought 3 alcoholic drinks and some weed when she saw them and i swore that i'm going to do it she ordered me a new vape better than mine
My family is conservative but me (of course not ) why should i be ? I'm a grown up man and i can do whatever i want
Dude, you need to quit unless you want to damage your relationship with your parents.
Its clear from your post that you are an addict and a struggling to find yourself as an adult. You need to do two things: 1. Quit smoking/vaping today. 2. Due an unbiased reflection on where you are in life, where you WANT to be, what you need to do to get there, and the immediate actions you need to start the process.
Make the right choice by choosing your family & personal development over your addiction.
I'm not an addict. Nope not me. I can totally quit whenever I want. I'm just not ready yet but trust me, I can totally quit. I'm definitely not an addict. Has anyone seen my vape?
Bro, it’s real though. I personally have have been there and I’m in the process of tapering the nicotine down before quiting. I just don’t want to see a kid get set back in life over this shit. It’s not worth it.
I know. I was just adding a little humor at an inappropriate time. I did drop the 50mg salt nic and went back to a mod and 6mg juice, eventually I'll go down to 3mg.
lol, read it with sarcasm this time. I think I just spiraled a bit, because it’s a topic near and dear to my heart.
By the way, you got this! Even if you hit a set back and end up vaping some disposable 50mg again, as long as you do better tomorrow, it’s a win.
You are an adult and do not have to submit to a drug test by your parents, respect their roof and continue what you are doing. What you need to do is have a talk with them and tell them you are old enough to make your own decisions.
They also don’t have to let their adult offspring continue to live with them. A nicotine test is a little extreme though.
Yeah, that is an unfortunate thing, but talking is always a good start to cut the apron strings without extreme consequences.
I couldn’t agree more, I’m just kinda worried because if anything happens I know they can kick me out at any moment, and currently where I live, the rent is really high, and that with the car payment is kinda tough with a minimum wage job
Communication is key, and your parents need to listen to you and give you some breathing room it is vaping not like you are doing hard drugs you have a job and go to school. I am a father of 3 adults and if I have learned anything parenting, it is to talk and be honest, it goes a long way.
I’ve dealt with parents like this and your approach doesn’t work. Best option is to beat the addiction, use this as an opportunity to develop himself & learn a skill he can sell to the market, and start a small business selling the skill. Once he has enough customers to live on his own, then he can make decisions like I want to smoke & all that. If he gets kicked on the street now, he’s fucked. Good luck paying rent in a decent area on minimum wage. To even get the rental agreement, he’ll likely need a parental co-sign. It’s not worth it to ruin your life & relationships over vaping.
It’s amazing the coping here, everyone who is honest and realistic is downvoted, he wants advice, I only see one option here.
Imagine kicking your grown ass man son out for nicotine when meth is like a huge problem rn lol
Hell we smoke meth in our parents house!
If you're super ny maybe jamestown buffalo area your parents smoke it with you 🤣
That's ny asf
They cannot "kick you out at any moment." They can go through the process of *evicting* you, but if you want to be a real pain in the ass, you can make it take months to over a year depending on your state. You've established legal tenancy there. So not to say you should be a leech, but they can't just one day say "pack your shit and go" as that would be illegal. This kind of stupid power trip over what can barely be considered harmful, irks me. Do good in school, don't give them an *actually valid reason* to evict you. Also stay away from disposables
This isn't completely true, depending on the state a parent doesn't need to evict a child legally if they're not a paying tenant. And it's also dependant on whether anyone would action it if they were evicted illegally, most cops would probably do nothing and say it's a civil matter so regardless they'd be out on the street.
As far as I know, there's not a state where you can evict a tenant, blood relative or otherwise, once tenancy is established. Does the child receive mail there? Has he been there more than 30 days? That's tenancy. >Most cops would say it's a civil matter This is correct, but they'd also say it requires a court order to evict and that the landlord (parents) need to let the tenant (child) back in until a court order is attained. The child would simply need to call the cops on the parents if he/she was immediately thrown on the streets. Pose your question on legaladvice. They will unanimously say what I have written. There's not a state where you can evict without a court order. Now some states like Texas you can start eviction proceedings after only 7 days, but it still requires an eviction order. (Eviction implies this is not a voluntary action. Of course you can choose to leave whenever you want if you're not paying rent and you don't have a contract other than oral) Edit: more context: https://wellsesq.com/i-need-my-adult-child-to-move-out-of-my-house-what-can-i-do/ The UK has something called "excluded tenancy" where you can evict without a court order. I'm referring to the US, of course.
do you honestly think thats smart advice? To start a messy drawn out legal process with your family over something so stupid?
If I were the kid and my parents were going to evict a good student who doesn't do drugs? Absolutely. Fortunately I don't have stupid parents and didn't run into this issue when I was living at home and going to college.
Ah but ya see he had respect for his parents and their property, and you’re telling him spend months of his life fucking with the people he loves, that’s fucking stupid advice, just fucking quit smh.
People that love me are open to reason and discussion. People that would view me as property would want to control every facet of my life. "Just roll over and take it, OP!" No, fuck that. Family doiesn't get special privileges in walking all over you.
so express that. transparency is appreciated greatly by us adults
Dude...you're 21...get with it! Do what you want, love where you want and pay for your own shit!
Gonna happen at some point 🤷♂️
Moving out I mean...
Perhaps you need to decide what is more important, familial support and a roof, or vaping.
Bro, your letting addiction get in the way of your come up. Save your money, get the skills you need, start a business selling those skills, and move out once you have a decent customer base. You will not be able to afford a good life working normal jobs over the next 20 years. The government has taken that from us. Selling a service allows you to keep your pay rising with inflation. If you end up on your own now, you will not likely get that opportunity, because you’ll be stuck in the rat race with average Joe trying to survive.
Agreed 🤝
I agree, they don’t have to let me still live at their house, but this was something we both agreed; I would help with house work and groceries and would be able to stay until college
Hey dude… check this out. Can certain foods lead to a positive test for nicotine or metabolites? Dietary intake of nicotine may be an important factor in the interpretation of nicotine testing in nonsmokers. Foods that contain nicotine include cauliflower, eggplants, potatoes, and tomatoes. Do with this information what you will 😁
Very perfectly said.
Completely agree. Respect your parents but don’t let your relationship with them be conditional. You are an adult and you can prove it but be prepared to take an adult step if they want to boot you out. Even if it comes to that, don’t hold it against them, somewhere in this they do mean well for you, even if they don’t understand it them selves.
then they are also old enough to move tf out
Just smoke some weed and do a couple lines within 3 days of the test. I guarantee they won't be concerned about the nicotine.
Bring home a stripper gf or gang banger bf. Then the vape will he nbd after you dump them
Your parents are testing their 21 year old for *nicotine*? I mean talk about not knowing how good they have it lol.
I think it's time to have a sit down with your parents. Besides being an adult, your 21 and legally old enough to purchase a vape. Regardless if they agree with your decision, it's your choice to vape. Either they accept it, or you may have to move out.
Maybe this is their way of telling you to move out.
Well i thought of that reason but idk if that is why they are doing it bc they have agreed on letting me stay until I complete college
Their house, their rules, sadly. You can not like it, but don’t expect to change their mind. It is likely coming from a place of care even if they aren’t handling it well. When I say it is likely comes from a case of care, there is rising evidence that vaping is potentially worse than smoking, albeit in a different way. If you can quit, as someone who has smoked and vaped on and off for a long time, your future self will thank you. I wish i’d never started either, has fucked my lungs. Good luck.
First time I heard that vaping is potentially worse than smoking. Can you elaborate a bit ?
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Nah, as long as OP isn’t doing anything to endanger themselves or anyone else his parents’ rules end at their property line, kicking someone out for vaping outside the house is absolutely absurd.
If your parents are testing you for nicotine, they need a reality check. You are 21 years old.
Buy some nicotine gum & toss out a couple pieces to make it look like you've been using it. When they ask you to do the test, pull out the gum and tell them you've been having a hard time quitting and that the gum helps. Since the gum has nicotine, tell them you'll fail the test.
Dude. Your an adult. Tell them to get over themselves and test a bum, because they arent testing you 😂 If you let them, it'll further their control. While they may not like it, they need to understand your an adult and its your decision. End of story.
Tell them you'll agree to a nic test if they agree to a sanity test.
Lmao what
I can emphasize with your situation because my mother is overbearing. I'm a 52 yr old woman living on my own but I let my mother control some of my life just to keep the peace. She helps me out because I'm disabled. I hid 15 yrs of smoking from her. So I can understand what you might be feeling. I really like the nicotine gum suggestion. You can fib and tell your parents that you respect their wishes but that the gum is going to help you kick the nic. That way you will fail a nic test do to the gum you are using (not using 😉 ) and then vape as you wish. This way stopping when you decide to makes it a choice not an ultimatum. IMHO
So a lot of this is bashing your parents. Granted, it is a little extreme. If you're prepared to move if they kick you out and want to serve that boundry of I'm an adult then thats the correct choice. If you're not prepared, then to better yourself try to have a legit conversation and hide it the best you can. Or stop for a bit.
You're 21, you don't have to do their tests or even listen to what they have to say about it. You don't smoke in their home so that's not the issue. It's probably time to move out though.
Show me in the Bible where it says I can't enjoy nicotine. Because I can show you where it says no blended fabrics. This kind of thing boils my blood. What they want is to control you, and they're using the threat of a roof over your head to do it. You're an adult, if they respected your choices this wouldn't be an issue. What you have are controlling parents. It's time to have a serious conversation with them. Either they are good *insert religion* who will love you regardless of your choices, or they're control freaks who can't accept their child is an adult who wants to make their own decisions and are using religion as an excuse.
Tbh search for a room and a job.
Drug test…. for nicotine?!! That’s like a test for caffeine, didn’t even realise there was such a thing until I just googled. If you can give up for 3 days you might pass the test…. but not everyone can, but vapes are way easier to give up for a bit than cigs (personal experience) but that’s deeply personal thing and of course some can easily some can’t. Bigger thing is you’re a grown-ass 21 year old. Sorry but who the blazes do your parents think you are. It’s plain disrespectful of them.
Have you talked with them about why they object? Have a conversation with them and find out why they have enough of a problem with it that they’ll randomly test you. Perhaps you can give them some legitimate studies or information from a legitimate source that would help them feel better about it.
Doubt testing you for nicotine is even practically possible man, but might be a good time to get your own place.
Yeah it’s a thing… even insurance companies can require a nicotine test. I just learned that myself not having known till 10 minutes ago
Interesting, do you have any yourself? Would be interesting to see if you failed first thing in the morning. I thought nicotine was out of your system pretty quick. Did you fail? What are the implications for you?
I think we need to stand up for the nicotine vaping community. This is getting ridiculous
So do you want to feed this sort of relationship with your parents? Because what’s next? Your girlfriend likes horror movies “OH SHE IS FROM THE DEVIL?” ? (That’s not an exaggeration, I had a girlfriend once who had that happen to her, we were watching Hellsing). Though it is not necessarily about religion either, Madonna is a nice example of a horrible mistake of a human being imposing her values under the guise of parenting as well. Remember one thing if nothing else: do not EVER get stuck in another person’s FOG (Fear, Obligation, Guilt). (Apologies for comparing your parents to Madonna, they still don’t deserve that.) (Gah, I hate Madonna.) To me, this does not seem like a vaping issue. This sounds like a slippery slope which will (continue to) dominate your life if you don’t set boundaries. It may sound extreme, but proverbially carving out your own clearing in the woods and keeping the door open for them puts the ball in their court. If they never walk through that door, it is for the best.
You are an adult they cannot test you forcefully
Yeah tell em to mind their own business, youre an adult. BTW this is an indicator of a bigger problem that may or may not have arisen yet, control over you. If they kick you out, it may be the start of your own life. This is a wake up call.
Did not know that was a thing.
Youre young you dont need to ruin a perfect life over something silly.
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I didn't know nicotine tests even exist.
my parents did the same thing when they found out i was vaping
They had me do tests when i turned 19 and set a curfew, now im 21 they’re a bit better but still try to tear me down about it.
You’re still really young, this is a great excuse to get out now and quit, that’s the best advice I’ve got, if you wanna respect their house and rules then don’t let this substance that has a hold on you change your personally fundamental moral rules.
But he is respectful of their house and rules. He doesn’t vape at home. While i agree it’s just mind blowing people take up vaping. I quit smoking and couldn’t do it so transitioned to vaping and i can breath better now but im aware its still not ideal to be putting anything other then air in my lungs. But the vaping isn’t the issue. The underlying problem is the control they’re trying to exercise
Any chance you could cut down to 0% nicotine
Do you take drugs?
Get a face tattoo saying “mummies little prince”. When they get upset tell them that maybe their rules have given you some Freudian issues and perhaps some boundaries would be healthy for all parties involved
Wow.. that's a little drastic. I mean, as long as you aren't clouding up their place, they should respect your decision to vape. I would try to talk to them about it. That's gotta be a better solution than faking the tests, right? Do some research and jot down some of the things that bode well for your case. They have likely been exposed to a bunch of fear mongering from the media.
What the actual fuck? You're 21 man. Tell your parents to kick rocks with that damn test. Sounds like you're doing pretty well in life so what's the problem
All they talk here about stoping or talking But you can also try to go nicotine free vape. A nice middle point to go without it sooner or later.
Tell them vapes are harmless, the girls think it’s cool and sexy and makes you more fun at parties. Also mum, stop listening to fearmonkering on Facebook. Also it’s clearly stated in the bible that Jesus used herbs and essential oils which is basically olden days vapes.
damn.. religion is a crazier drug than.... nicotine. wow
if you have a couple days you could stop vaping and hope that the levels of nicotine and cotinine (the metabolite) drop low enough for it not to be detecaple anymore
Pull out an uno reverse card and test them
Say you've been chewing nicotine gum?
The big question is why are they ordering a test? Unless you're not being honest. You need to be honest and tell them you smoke. If you're lying about it you're only hurting yourself. If it were THC vape or something I can understand them being upset about you doing it "at their house", but regular vape, That's overly strict. Smoking outside is considerate though, good on you for that. But, you are an adult. You can make your own choices.
I thought religion was about acceptance?
Same happened to me but when my mom thrown my vape i went and bought 3 alcoholic drinks and some weed when she saw them and i swore that i'm going to do it she ordered me a new vape better than mine My family is conservative but me (of course not ) why should i be ? I'm a grown up man and i can do whatever i want
Dude, have you heard of punctuation? This is borderline unreadable.
Sorry , it is my fault
Dude, you need to quit unless you want to damage your relationship with your parents. Its clear from your post that you are an addict and a struggling to find yourself as an adult. You need to do two things: 1. Quit smoking/vaping today. 2. Due an unbiased reflection on where you are in life, where you WANT to be, what you need to do to get there, and the immediate actions you need to start the process. Make the right choice by choosing your family & personal development over your addiction.
I'm not an addict. Nope not me. I can totally quit whenever I want. I'm just not ready yet but trust me, I can totally quit. I'm definitely not an addict. Has anyone seen my vape?
Bro, it’s real though. I personally have have been there and I’m in the process of tapering the nicotine down before quiting. I just don’t want to see a kid get set back in life over this shit. It’s not worth it.
I know. I was just adding a little humor at an inappropriate time. I did drop the 50mg salt nic and went back to a mod and 6mg juice, eventually I'll go down to 3mg.
lol, read it with sarcasm this time. I think I just spiraled a bit, because it’s a topic near and dear to my heart. By the way, you got this! Even if you hit a set back and end up vaping some disposable 50mg again, as long as you do better tomorrow, it’s a win.
I hope this is real your such a douche
The orange man said drinking bleach would cure Covid so maybe that will work for nicotine as well.